Bones X-Formula 97 - first impressions

[@3jsu5]

97a spitfires vs 97a bones!

[@JM_andtheArgonauts]

yeah man, this review sold me and I went out to buy the x97's right after this video. Love em. thanks

[@brandonblack40483]

New to the channel bro! Glad I found ya! Love the content. I’m 39 w three kids and I love seeing people from my generation still skating and having fun. Sick pop on your heelflips btw

[@dadboard]

Right on, man, thanks for watching!

[@DanG-be5hz]

Loved the bank manny with the tail tap!

[@dadboard]

Thank you I was actually really hyped on that 😂

[@TheReal_DeanD]

Love the honesty and thoroughness of this review. Looking forward to the follow up videos on these.

[@dadboard]

Thanks for watching!

[@idmhead0160]

Thanks for the review. Mine just came in today. Fedex delivered them. A few snow flakes were hitting the ground at that point. Went in the garage and installed them. Looked outside. Snow on the ground and everything was wet. Can't wait to try them on asphalt, but, it looks like the weather is going to be sucking for several days.

[@idmhead0160]

@@jimmyhuang8730 Off the top of my head, I want to say I prefer the X97s. At first I wasn't too keen on the X97s compared to Dragons on the medium rough asphalt on the hill in front of my house. For roughish asphalt, I prefer the 93A Dragons. I can't tell all that much difference slide-wise compared to the X97s on that surface, but, they are a bit faster, and most importantly are just easier on the feet. Less vibration. I'll have to test the Spitfires again. I haven't ridden them much lately. I want to say they feel more plasticy. I think the X97s, kind of like the Dragons have more give to them. Shape-wise, I do like the Spitfire Conicals a lot. I kind of prefer that over a lot of the Powell/Bones wheels. Note, I'm not really doing any tricks though. Just cruising hills doing power slides and ollies. And so far I've only tested the X97s on asphalt. A medium rough area. And a really smooth area. Initially, I wasn't liking the X97s that much compared to the Dragons, and I still prefer the Dragons on rough asphalt, but, they are pretty rad on smooth asphalt. The sound is better for slides. I can't really tell a huge difference on slickness compared to Dragons on those surfaces. From what I remember, I think the Spitfires were slicker. I'll do a comparison and get back to you after I've refreshed my memory. But, again, I'm not really doing tricks like Dad Board is, doing blunt slides, etc. So, I can't really comment on what they would be like on a ramp on coping or what not. I'm planning on testing them on some masonite ramps, but, it's supposed to snow in a couple days and I'm not sure if I will get to the park before then.

[@idmhead0160]

@@jimmyhuang8730 I was thinking about trying to do a test tomorrow. We're supposed go get a bad snow storm on Thursday (Chicago area). My ankle is bothering me a little after skating today. I'll see how it feels tomorrow. It's probably not going to happen though. I have to go to the store to stock up on food before the holiday and before the storm.

[@diplenski]

i just ordered some, excited to try. got 56mm 97a v6(wide) and some other stuff, including venture high 5.6 standards

[@nicofish1000]

I think you should do a follow-up of x97 vs dragon. Polyeurothane gets a "skin" from the mold process. Some longboard wheels sand this off to get the wheels to slide out of the box. Otherwise you gotta break them in. My first sesh with 97 ff4 they were super grippy on skate lite type material, but after a while they started to break loose more and felt more like 99a. Ultimately I went back to 99a for the slidability. I miss the smoother ride of the 97s, but I ride 58s so i can still get through crust.

[@fhsksu]

I just got some x97’s in a 56 and riding on the halfpipe which has gatorskin on it I’m amazed how grippy, smooth, and quiet they are. We’ll see how they wear.

[@jackofallboardsNEW]

Great video and thanks for the thorough review. I ride 95a - 97a in the bowls myself. I'll try the x-97's too...thanks!

[@darkXwolf17-UD]

I’m actually a freestyle skateboarder who also does street flip tricks. and i have tried the dragon wheels and they’re great for what they do. But if andy or anyone is looking for a wheel that doesn’t grind down your axels bones x wheels I definitely recommend.

[@homelochino3864]

Nano cubics, same formula, shape better for everything

[@loganblack5325]

Im 43 and mostly skate street, rougher ground in my area. As much as I like the dragon wheels I think I’m going to like these better. I just got them (x97) today and only skated them for about 2hours. They felt less spongy slid better and more responsive when I pop. I didn’t feel a difference in body fatigue and again the wheel just felt better. On tricks. Time will tell but so far I think prefer the x97. Will go to the skatepark with smooth ground tomorrow to try them out there.

[@idmhead0160]

For riding on asphalt, I think I prefer Dragons. It's a much smoother ride. Less vibration. They are quieter. Slide-wise, I can't tell much difference on asphalt. They seem roughly the same. It almost seemed like the Dragons were a little easier to slide. I tested how far they roll going down a hill. The Dragons went a little further. I only put in a couple hours as well. My initial reaction is that Dragons will still be my preferred wheel for the type of skating I do, which is mostly riding hills. Cruising, ollies, and basic tricks. I generally, I just really don't care for hard wheels. They are rough on the feet and ankles. If they don't slide better, it's not worth the better "bark" sound when you are beating up your feet. I also compared to Bones STF 103A. STF are miserably slow and are an absolute nightmare on asphalt. Maybe they are good on smooth cement. X97 are tolerable. STF is useless with the advent of X97 IMHO. I never tried the 99A one. The 103A ones are unusable.

[@Demonutzz]

How are they?

[@Jblizzybaby]

I just got these today. First impressions is smoother ride than f4 (less vibration) but not as slick/don’t slide as well

[@kaffeeskateboards]

I just got a set of these wheels last week. Really looking forward to try these.

[@_smsb_]

97 is where its at. spitfire conical fulls for me though.

[@dadboard]

I’ve never ridden the 97 F4’s but I’m curious how they measure up to these. Truth be told I’d much rather support spitfire as a brand 😬

[@idmhead0160]

I have some of those. They feel hard plasticy to me. Kind of prefer Dragons for the asphalt skating I normally do, but, I do like the shape of the Spitfire Conical Fulls. I have the 58mm 97A ones. I think they are pretty much the perfect shape and size that I like. I wish Powell made ones like that. I've never been in love with the Bones shapes. I always wished they made one with a wider contact patch.

[@ryanrowe1975]

Great review

[@torarnv]

Can you explain the part about the dragons having a weird (ghost) pop sound when you ollie? I didn’t find anything about that in your recent dragons review video. Thanks!

[@jx-bj1sx]

New to the channel, great reviews man! Pretty killer skating as well, gr8 trick selections

[@dadboard]

Thanks so much, dude! Really cool to hear such positive feedback 🙏

[@Ernie_Creates]

All I wanted to hear was are they bouncy 😂 😂😂 I’m glad you said it in the video! Definitely subscribed!!

[@dalcala75]

great skating and great video! i just got these wheels yesterday i was gonna get the dragon wheels but got recommended these instead. im glad i did cause the slide on them is so satisfying and they make that good ol screech when doing power slides. something the dragon wheels dont have from what ive read and seen online.

[@dadboard]

They’re definitely a step up from dragons in terms of sound and slide. The dragons became way too “gummy” after awhile and caused too many sticky landings and wheelbite

[@nathaniel1600]

Nice review. I hadn't heard of these till now. Think I'm gonna wait but I am interested.

[@dadboard]

Thanks, Nathanial! They’re worth checking out imo.

[@booth403]

well ... looks like I'm getting the local shop to order me a set for spring time 😅 saw you in Dans comments and am also a dad skater, figured I needed to come throw you some support. Thanks for the look at the wheels, been a big fan of the Dragons so far but they do definitely take more effort to slide, was learning smiths at the end of the summer and was having a hell of a time with them sticking on the roundbar XD

[@dadboard]

Yeah the dragons stick on any type of metal it seems like, I’ll be doing a short review of these after having skated them for awhile too. Thanks for checking out the channel, man 🍻

[@joshb9657]

What was the verdict?​@@dadboard

[@6to8john]

You might have said it or shown it, but what size and width did you go with?

[@Thedude897]

Ordered up. Fuck I love your reviews man, I can tell you don't bullshit around

[@dadboard]

Thanks dude! Always try to bring you an honest opinion on any product I showcase. That being said, I only rode these for about 3 sessions, not because they’re bad wheels, I just prefer a harder wheel like the F4. Hope you enjoy the 97’s though. If you skate a lot of crusty spots they’ll definitely be worth the money

[@Thedude897]

@@dadboard yeah man I bought them specifically for my crusty ass neighborhood asphalt. I got a skatepark a block up the road but I plan on getting different wheels for that. I'm just getting back into skating so once I get my flip tricks back and build my confidence I'll be grabbing a different wheel. Dragons seem too soft for what I'm trying to do. I'm a street skater at heart

[@stvnd1]

Socal Skateshop still has them in stock.

[@BackwoodChong]

Is that 28th and b in sac lmao one of my local parks

[@dadboard]

Yesir

[@BackwoodChong]

@@dadboard man that’s my local hope to run into u there or power in

[@32srt32]

have you trid the OJ nomad 95a? love the nomads! fast in the park and smooth in the streets and slide!

[@GomulaKruzicFamily]

Great review! Is Bones going to release a 58 or 60mm version of the X Formula wheels?

[@dadboard]

Thanks! Not sure what their plans are with these

[@friscotecsk8s119]

That's what I'm waiting for, too. 56mm seems small to me, and after I bought the Dragons- they released to 60 and 64mm. I wish they'd hurry up. :)

[@wg117]

When will you have the updated review out for these? Are they also going to drop a x99? I’m really curious about these wheels, I mainly just skate my rail and box at home on fairly nice asphalt but my but my knees are pretty ruined form the army so I’m curious about trying a softer wheel to help with that. I just don’t want to lose the slide I get on tricks that I get with SF FF 99d.

[@dadboard]

@stickersteve007 posted a review about two weeks ago that hit it on the head pretty well. Idk if the link will work but go check that out kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIjZqHiFZ7dmqck I took them off after like a week because I was just over the softness, don’t know if I’ll pick them back up tbh.

[@mrbrakelol]

Thanks for this video I like the way you review things... damn I was super set on getting some Dragons in the next few days, now I'm second guessing haha. I didn't see any follow up videos on the these Bones on your channel, did you ever make a follow up after skating them for a month or so on street as well? Would be cool to see a final thoughts comparison between them and the Dragons? Also can I ask what your board setup is? thanks man

[@dadboard]

Honestly man I rode these wheels for like 3 more sessions and went back to formula 4’s lol. The soft wheel thing just isn’t for me, at least full time. If you’re skating crusty spots a lot they’re great though. My current setup is a 90’s shape blank, Thunder hollow light 151’s & 54mm classic F4’s. I did a video recently highlighting it ;)

[@n_aaal]

is this the v6 or v5

[@MrJasonodonnell]

Picked up 2nd set of dragons yesterday, my fav wheel atm but its summer here and they get pretty slow and spongy in the heat and I wear them down bout 1-2 mm per week. Glad Powell are making actual products and not rainbow shield bearing in teddy bear tins……

[@stuebtube713]

I skate a lot of rails especially square ones I noticed with the dragons that they would eat the rail as in they were to soft. I was wondering if these were any better you awnsered my question thank you so much!

[@dadboard]

Yeah these don’t seem to be nearly as grippy on metal as the dragons. I’ll do more tests with them in the weeks to come and have a full review up in a month or two!

[@SkateGirlAndrea]

Interesting, I have no problem with my Dragon Wheels on the smooth concrete at my home skate park. I'm sliding fine with my power slides, maybe its because Im light. And I skated mansonite today at the indoor ramp and they were fine, except for the brand new mansonite and saw dust from repairs. So I was slipping out a little. I feel they will be fine for me once the mansonite is broken in and the sawdust cleaned up. I love my Dragon Wheels. Interesting how personal experiences and the subjective nature in skateboarding can vary. I want to try the X formulas too. 🙌

[@dadboard]

Have you skated on 101’s or 99’s? Huge difference in how they maneuver on smoother ground. Could be because of weight, that would be an interesting test 🤔

[@SkateGirlAndrea]

@@dadboard Yea 101a was my go to wheel for a while. So I'm comparing my power slides from those wheels to the Dragon wheels. And there is a little difference. But not much, plus less noise. That would of been a deal breaker for me, if I couldn't power slide on smooth skatepark concrete similar to my 101a wheels. I don't weigh much and I'm light on my feet.

[@dadboard]

@@SkateGirlAndrea wow, that’s kinda wild you didn’t notice a big difference! On rough ground dragons are amazing but anything smooth I felt like I was just missing something. So many variables involved in how someone experiences the same gear

[@SkateGirlAndrea]

@@dadboard yea, cool.

[@idmhead0160]

@@dadboard I haven't tried the the 99A Bones STF, but, found the 103A ones on asphalt completely unbearable. Like skating on rocks and slick as hell. For practical purposes completely unusable. I guess they are fine at a smooth park. For actual street, I don't see how anyone would like skating them. Very glad Powell came out with the Dragon formula.

[@costaricaBL]

This is cool, thank you for making this video. I was thinking about getting these but wasn’t sure. How do you feel about them still?

[@dadboard]

I think I only rode these for a week tops before going back to formula 4’s. They’re great for really crusty spots but I can’t deal with the softness on a regular basis

[@costaricaBL]

Ive been skating for a long time but have never really researched and tried out different wheels, I always just got what was cheap growing up haha. Im glad someone out there takes the time to check these out and review them. Maybe Ill try out the formula 4s instead.

[@Joeycoronaskates]

Killin it!

[@_barnac]

​ @Dad Board thanks for the review! I love my dragons and was willing to just stick with'em and not even look into these X-97( the name and packaging remind me of condoms anyone else? lol) but i gotta say it seems like that slight tweak might be where i want to end my wheel search journey especially after you mentionned that slight drag while kickturning, OJ's doubleduro seem cool as well. The dragons are perfect for asphalt which canada has alot of, can you test the x97 on asphalt? thats really why I even got the dragons to skate all these old asphalt skateparks that barely get skated now

[@dadboard]

Yep I’ll have a breakdown of how they roll on most common surfaces alongside dragon wheels in my review!

[@TimJones97701]

Any comment on the speed vs either F4, or either STF on smooth concrete? I skate a lot of bowls and usually do an SPF, which is the fastest I have found, but sometimes can be too slick. The F4 99s are about my limit on how slow I can put up with. I have the Dragons as well and they are faster than any other soft wheel I have skated, but I have relegated them to crust. I was hoping these would be at least the F4 99 speed.

[@dadboard]

These seem about as fast if not a little faster than the dragons but I’ll save my analysis for when I do a review on them after a month or so. I’m planning on comparing them to F4’s as well as the dragons side by side 🤘

[@durvalmonteiro7649]

Tim, tou might consider SPFs 81b, they grip more then the 84b but are not that slower. Faster then spits I believe

[@TimJones97701]

@@durvalmonteiro7649 I probably should. It's the only Bones formula besides the X97 that I haven't tried.

[@idmhead0160]

@@dadboard I found them to be slightly slower on medium rough asphalt. I did a test rolling down a hill from the same spot. The dragons rolled further. I think what makes the difference is that harder wheels vibrate more, and hence slow the bearings down. I've found that softer wider wheels are fastest on medium rough asphalt. 80A AWOLs are the fastest ones I've tested. Rolled way further that smaller harder street wheels.

[@anhiirr]

Id consider trying bones big balls 6 ball reds, or super swiss 6. 6 ball bearings were a nice "addition" to my quiver and they are very forgiving when landing airs or into transition downright HABIT forming bc you can land airs into transition and be partial about your foot placement or if your going to land back foot heavy or front foot while prepping for your next trick and they speed is well maintained. Ive also tried some nothing special ABEC 11 bearings with tighter races...which are also very smooth and forgiving/speed saving in transition. Though when they get dirty(and theyre pretty OK build quality) they become noticeably slow so they pretty much need to be cleaned/lubed often and are easier to maintain/keep fresh as a side/quiver setup. I even got some budget rush 6 ball bearings to try for an older/softer shaped deck as a tosser/side setup. If you like doing bs airs and want to choose if you land it back foot /front foot heavy and enjoy the fun of wall to wall speed/lines chained up. Definitely consider at least the reds big balls really fun park/transition bearings for sure.

[@Shredxcam22]

Companies going soft. I want harder. 103a bones is one of my favorite. The old party pack V1s were sweet.

[@BHonest]

Just tried the spf 84b. Couldn’t do it. I was slipping out on multiple concrete parks

[@jaimeronan]

I hesitate between the Dragons and the 97 for a skatepark with asphalt. On the skatepark you're skating, I'd ride my Spitfire F4 99a though.

[@franciscoramirez9867]

Snappy trucks look like Ace + 15% beef. Indy forever!!!

[@inhumanfilth681]

I love my off road jeep but my one complaint is it doesnt do well at the drag strip. Jk love the vids man

[@coliimusic]

I'm a dragon guy but I've been looking into a wheel that sticks less on ledges for street stuff. Probably wouldn't jam with these at all had I not gotten your second opinion

[@anhiirr]

i never thought much of 97a outside of some santacruz and oj wheels for some natas/oldschool setups...then i rode venture 6.1s and they make 99a feel like 101a at my local. Now 97a seems like a pretty viable option for those slick surfaced concrete parks littered in cali. If they make a conical/full shape or a radial type shape i might get some since i love big contact patch esp for powerslide/speed control. Plus ventures initiate slides like nothing. If you ride ventures definitely look at some 97a bc i have my second pair of 6.1s on a shelf bc theyre quite hectic compared to other trucks as far as how easily they powerslide if you land a little nose heavy on an air you find yourself in some trouble or get high sided quite easily in transition if you forget your riding ventures. As someone that likes to slash into grinds to a point where its down bad....you find yourself over lip back lipping before you know it. The way ventures blast and slide If you pull your back foot up to slash into a grind you could find yourself over lip with a harder wheel and ventures after switching from indys. Or if you like to slash/slide into back smiths. Its some "fun times" getting high sided or hanging up mid back smith lock in.

[@chrhadden]

its indys or nothing

[@DirtySk8RatStaney]

My girlfriend just bought me these wheels today! I usually skate the STF formula, but I’m hoping I like these. I just put them in, so we will see….

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

Never tried the Dragon’s but am happy with my Spits F4 97a

[@thevernonposse]

Yea can't believe they stopped making them there's still some available not sure how long

[@InfinityGamerHDx]

Whaat they stopped making them??

[@InfinityGamerHDx]

My favs too but didn't try dragoons and xformula

[@idmhead0160]

@@thevernonposse Since when? I just bought some a couple months ago. I just checked the Spitfire website and it says available in 2 duros. I guess you are right.

[@idmhead0160]

@Zero-COVID Policy Enforcer It doesn't take long to wear a couple mm off a wheel

[@stupedkiteh]

Hope this formula comes in offset bearing shape someday

[@dadboard]

Do you mean like spitfire OG classics where it kinda tapers in towards the bearing?

[@idmhead0160]

@@dadboard I think he means like Rat Bones or freestyle wheels where the bearings aren't centered and are closer to the inner edge of the wheel, where the end of the axles are protected

[@dadboard]

@@idmhead0160 ah yeah that sounds right.

[@idmhead0160]

BTW, Andy Anderson said he is working on just that. Offset wheels are what they normally use for freestyle. Andy is riding experimental ones like that now

[@stupedkiteh]

@@dadboard YUP! My rat bones work great on my aluminum Polarizer but wont slide on anything but ice

[@johneapleseed6876]

Good review. I hope they do the rat bone 2 shape in this formula. I need 58-60 mm wheels. I skate bricks all the time. All Salem area spots require big ass wheel

[@dadboard]

I kinda like the way big wheels look, I had 56’s when I got back into skating and they were really fun, just not so good for flipping the board in my case

[@johneapleseed6876]

@@dadboard yeah I hear you. Tre flips spin fast and heavy. Shinners like woah

[@dadboard]

@@johneapleseed6876 if you’re tre flipping on 60mm that’s a hats off to you, sir 👏

[@sluggysworld469]

i noticed the heroin hat and i know snot wheels is kind of a new and small compamy but the snot 97a are my favorite wheels and i have pretty much every size dragon and 4 sets of snots definitely recommend if you like the 97a but they only have a few options in that durometer right now i ride snot wheel co swirls 52mm 97a exclusively on street because there's not a skatepark nearby and most of the street is super gnarly i still have to walk my board sometimes but try em out i love them

[@dadboard]

Been wanting to try some snot wheels out but I’ve heard they flatspot pretty fast compared to F4’s.

[@sluggysworld469]

@@dadboard i wouldn't know cuz i can't do any cool tricks i mostly just skate around and do a few reverts and slides so none of my wheels have flat spots yet but my first pair i got secondhand from a friend and i skated em for months on all kinds of nasty terrain and the label is gone and theres a tiny chip in one but i feel like i could just rip on these things for ages those are 99a though

[@dadboard]

@@sluggysworld469 reverts and slides are hella cool 😎

[@sluggysworld469]

@@dadboard yeah i try not to brag too much y'know 🤩

[@anowysz6]

these sound great, but i really dont like how they have the color of an old/used wheel when they're new

[@sonnyrico]

Wheel madness is as bad as board madness, just slightly more affordable 🤪

[@dadboard]

It’s always trucks and wheels for me. I’ve managed to calm down on board (deck) madness thankfully 😅

[@brunoiskovich3459]

What size are the deck and trucks you ride?

[@dadboard]

Lately I’ve been riding 8.38 but I do anything from 8.25 to 8.5 usually. Trucks are always 8.5

[@chrhadden]

i just bought some drangons in 58mm 93a to replace some 53mm slime balls that were 97 and they are way faster on these philly streets .the slime balls were crap back in the day and they still are crap.i dont thin k they make bullets besides the huge 66mm ones anymore.i havent tried these ones you just tested though but from what you said and others it sounds like i would like them better.im 49 and i just wiped out yesterday on a hill because the 93 dug like no other useable wheel i have ever used but they are so smooth and almost to fast.maybe im to old for this? no way m,an if i die at least i wont be in my recliner with shit staind drawers looking sorry.

[@dadboard]

Careful out there on those hills man! You’re braver than me. Hope the dragons work out for you, they’re a solid wheel especially if you’re on that east coast crust. They were a bit overkill for the ground I normally skate over here.

[@indiopeltier9758]

Out my side eye I thought it was Bonez cheese because I had the Munchies

[@dadboard]

Cheese with bones in it sounds like the worst snack ever

[@indiopeltier9758]

@@dadboard I would puke if there was a filthy old bone 🦴 in my cheese bite lol

[@augormasterson9312]

It’s odd seeing wheels being shipped in a fedex envelope

[@dadboard]

Right!

[@idmhead0160]

They did that with mine too. I'm not complaining though. They sent them 2nd Day Air. I found that if you order small items like that from Skate One, they seem to use 2nd Day Air and you get them a lot quicker. If you order decks, it takes more like a week and they ship it ground.

[@Unoriginal3]

They felt safer than dragons

[@stickersteve007]

well shit....i didnt plan on spending money on skate stuff today

[@dadboard]

You knew it was a possibility as soon as you woke up, don’t lie to yourself 😂 everyday I see what’s on sale on the main sites

[@stickersteve007]

@Dad Board yeah I know, I do the same shit.... but I just bought shoes yesterday haha

[@DustinKeiser]

IMO these and dragons are strictly for the street and in a skatepark you want 99a+

[@dadboard]

Definitely

[@thevernonposse]

Exactly sucks having numb feet when your 40 and work 60 hours a week

[@Theskatenerdchannel]

😂😂28th n b

[@chrisXjosi]

🛹🛹🛹

[@32srt32]

dragon wheels got alot slower after they wore down a couple millimeters. and yeah they suck at skateparks

[@zachemorgan]

dragons are very bad on wood or skatlite i keep slipping out of things i could do no problem and had no confidence. that being said for a concrete park or parking lot dragons are the best wheel.

[@Rok887-n4w]

Sound like the OJ nomads 95a

[@sasproductions701]

i skate bones STF and they are good but i sure find them grippy even tho they are 101a. i think ill buy spitfires next or some white wheels would be nice. good review btw and i found the hype about the dragon wheels to be a bit too much. ive never tried them and from ur review i wouldnt bother. last night i got back skating and was rusty as hell and was skating my 7.75 girl deck and was getting frustrated that i wasnt flipping the board well with my front foot just doing a kickflip. its like the girl deck is very mellow concave. im now gonna get back to skating my 8.13 flip setup as i have 2nd pair brand new tensor mag lights and it is my lightest setup and ive done quite a few good tricks on that size deck that i havent on others. the thing is when i got my second flip 8.13 deck it felt different and then i realised i had been skating my first flip decks nose haha so now i skate the nose as tail and ive never done this in my years skating. i know there is twin tails these days and i have never tried one. ive skated a 8.25 powell deck and that was good but i wanted a size smaller so i picked the 8.13 ive never skated a 8.125. ive skated a few 8inch decks and they have been ok but 8.13 and flip concave is what i love. that kickflip fakie on that bank on my insta has the cheech and chong deck with green tensor mags. also on that deck about a year ago i was practicing fakie big flip and was landing on it 90 and jumping off. then my friends wanted to leave to go home in the car so i said hey here last try and boom i did it and was shocked myself and even the look on my friends face said it all haha i couldnt believe it it was perfectly flipped 180 and i landed on it perfect no struggle or balance. i was like wtf that cant be real haha i got in the car and was talking about it and they didnt want to hear about it hahaha.

[@chrhadden]

popeye at one point never tried spinach

[@JaviersChandeliers]

Probably roll faster on smooth skatepark concrete too, i'd imagine. dragons just felt a smidge spongey there