Youtube Has a Youtuber Problem - I am Part of it.

[@gnbman]

Don't forget KZbin's old slogan, "Broadcast Yourself."

[@aconcerneduser4950]

gnbman Man, what you just said brings me so much nostalgia!

[@Veroxzes]

Good old 2008.

[@Mrvideosandgames]

What's its new slogan?

[@gnbman]

Mr Videos & Games Broadcast What We Want, Even Though We're Not Telling You What That Is.

[@fezzes428]

thats what you do on camgirl sites

[@rudra3763]

My man, my boy, my guy is looking better by the DAY.

[@elsteezus]

Vishnu Nair that struggle 'stache doe

[@mrhappy0121]

Hmmmmmmmm make unpopular videos you say, got it..................... what there was more, make them good you say, dude you should have led with that what am I supposed to do with the 940 unpopular videos I’ve already posted

[@GarretOakamber]

KZbin has not only been a source of entertainment for me all these years, but a stepping stone for my future, a purpose to bring the shared enjoyment of games to people I'll never meet. Whenever I'm feeling down I can always click on a Francis video and laugh till it hurts, or if something strikes my fancy I record and talk through my feelings because I can. I often think people underestimate the power of KZbin, and how it affects us on a daily basis... it's a potent self- empowering tool without prejudice and limits. And yet an endangered critter in need of saving. :o Great video Boogie! As always I hope you are doing well! Love hearing your mindset on these matters!

[@BanditRants]

I 100% agree with you Boogie. I make short documentary-style, highly edited videos, I put nearly 100+ hours into each video that I make and I love doing it, but I continually get hit with the, "Your video may not be suitable for advertisers." It's my dream to make documentaries in the future and post them here on KZbin, but unfortunately, KZbin cannot discern the difference between harmful speech and expression, and sensitive subject matter. I hope they fix this problem, I'll continue to stay optimistic because I truly believe and respect KZbin. It is a company that has given many people opportunities they would otherwise not have, it has taken some of the power from mainstream media and distributed it to the commoner; it has given a voice to people whos words would regularly fall on deaf ears. Let us be optimistic for a brighter future, a more polished and well-managed platform, and an altogether stronger and robust KZbin community.

[@littleboy3150]

PLEASE don't stop making videos!!! Your vids are phenomenal, I'm sure you'll garner the much-deserved recognition soon.

[@howbigisthemap9817]

curiosity propelled me to your channel and goddamn I was blown away the quality of your content!

[@tonyrawmen4966]

+BanditRants incredible videos my man!

[@rapalla021]

BanditRants dropped a sub man. Nice vids :)

[@AdviceandAdventures]

Don't waste your time uploading well put together videos on KZbin. Not if you are trying to earn money. That said, I just subbed to you because screw the talking head videos.

[@UnPhayzable]

As long as people like Dunkey and Boogie exist, I'll have faith

[@GodlikeGamersz]

And Philly D imo

[@christopherlauf3761]

UnPhayzable amen

[@clon1122]

pvsweetypie. Really? How is he a cancer? I need a defined opinion.

[@therealding221]

UnPhayzable p

[@werewolffamguy8597]

Dunkey is awesome

[@FornaxTheHerald]

I'm a new creator, facing the issues that all with a tiny start-up channel do; However, I do not for one second blame veterans creators for the current tumultuous environment on the platform. KZbin - like all enterprises must evolve to survive, and there are almost always casualties along that path. Money is driving this tsunami, as well as the sheer volume of content to administrate. You are a trail blazer - who has inspired others to jump into content creation. Honestly I think you are trying to shoulder responsibilities which fall to others. If not for people like you, there would be no KZbin community, or the opportunities it affords. Many people once they have achieved success, seem happy to burn bridges behind them, but you have always be an advocate for us 'little guys' - and for that I cannot thank you enough. Much love and respect - Fornax oxox

[@MrNotThatFamous]

well when they reward bad behavior and automate a process that only a human can recognize...its bound to fk up

[@matthewgrim6359]

Mr Not That Famous yea, but you cant honestly expect them to manually review millions of hours of content every single day. Its impossible, thats why they have the systems in place they do. Do i think the current system is good - no. But the fix is not as easy as manually review everything.

[@PSVitaat2am]

They really need to change things.

[@Biffo316]

Mr Not That Famous it's impossible to monitor every single video that's uploaded to the site. But clearly the ai isn't working that much we all can agree on

[@bluefoxtv1566]

Apparently the automated process flagged the video and was reviewed by a human and then approved.

[@you7uber5]

How are you verified with 20k subs?

[@lancelot1432]

If a channel with 100 subs uploaded that dead body video it would be deleted. But no,Logan has 15M. Moneymoneymoney

[@watermelonmonsterman6027]

You ever seen the 1995 cover for Mayhem - Dawn of the Black Hearts?

[@Tigerbricks11]

I have 90 subs and if I posted a video of a dead body KZbin wouldn’t bat an eye.

[@Chicomite]

Lancelot Muuuuuney!

[@SmashJT]

Pushing the barriers is a way many creators learn what they are successful at and what they're not. It's a delicate issue for sure.

[@PSVitaat2am]

You know things are bad, when even Boogie gets hit.

[@kolplako4525]

Retro8bit No need for a comma

[@kolplako4525]

pvsweetypie You are absolutely correct. I was way too excited. Thank you kindly for your intervention. I shall now proceed to calm down.

[@soarom1]

"when even Boogie gets it." FIFY

[@jaywunder13242]

Vita was a terribly under appreciated little system.

[@MisoraRyuu0921]

Don't you give shit for Jimmy Kimble for being untouchable and YT having favorites? Boogie shouldn't be untouchable.

[@JasonLovesLife]

Stick up for the creators...KZbin has a weird balance between making viewers happy, creators happy, and sponsors happy. I think they are changing their focus more towards sponsors which results in coming down on creators. I hope they keep the balance or this whole site could collapse.

[@FullElven]

He does really stick up for the creators, but there are times when creators are misstepping and he is 100% real about saying something to them about it too. That's part of why I love Boogie so much, because he tries to be as fair and objective as he can about things

[@90kevin20]

Some random keyboard warrior saying youtube will fall. Wow. Yes I'm sure that one of the strongest websites in the entire world will fall....

[@BrickTamlandOfficial]

KZbin needs a bill or rights for uploaders and viewers. The advertisers should not be permitted to 'shape' our speech. It is not acceptable for a company to run a web service inside a country that is supposed to agree with free speech and have that service shaped by what the advertisers deem "acceptable speech". If youtube wants to become only what advertisers want, then all content will become cookie-cutter bullshit.

[@darkomen42]

So start your own and run it however you like. You do not get to tell other people how to run their business. They need to just be upfront about it.

[@BrickTamlandOfficial]

if facebook was shaped by the demands of saudi arabia, people would lose their shit.

[@Jrez]

Seems like you've got some problems with free market capitalism, comrade.

[@BrickTamlandOfficial]

it's not a free market if there are rules.

[@jordansellers6291]

What you're missing is that there is nothing preventing creators from putting whatever they want here and nothing to prevent people from watching it. The only difference is what they get paid. KZbin doesn't even directly make those decisions. It's strictly what the majority of advertisers are willing to pay for. If you made rules that made everything "fair", it wouldn't add money to creators, it could only take it away and bring everyone down.

[@Dtrolcoljs]

No ones gonna see this but sometimes I fart into my hand and smell it.

[@JustSilver23]

i saw this

[@stabbityjoe7588]

Damn

[@johnmystic7144]

I saw it

[@williamoconnell12]

John C you have top comment now. excellent job.

[@guadalupemoralesa.986]

Ok

[@UnPhayzable]

11:05 *Remembers Filthy Frank and cries uncontrollably*

[@JovaNull]

Dont worry my friend, he will live on in our hearts... *sheds a tear*

[@ztykowork]

I heard things, but i don't know the full story.

[@JovaNull]

ztykowork He stopped making comedy videos because he was getting stress cancer and he didn't enjoy making them. He thought about it for a moment and decided to quit.

[@coolcamera6265]

*rip*

[@mcnuttington7122]

F

[@Slevin-Kelevra]

With over 2k comment you probrably won't see this, but looking good my man! Looking very much slimmer! Great job!

[@ps3Rambo21]

Greg Droder fah

[@beezabub]

Goddamn you be right

[@adadaprout]

true that ! looking much better !

[@itstime5138]

He should also start doing simple exercises at home to make the transition a bit quicker. But he probably won't.

[@xander8062]

Damn Boogie! Lookin slimm THICC my dude!

[@nickhannah9543]

PotatoStudios Thick*

[@gvd90]

No. THICC.

[@Thepar123]

His hands have shrunken too, its like he had sausage hands on before lol

[@Rockhead1997]

Nick Hannah no thicc.... idiot

[@SketchSpooks]

Get out. You're banned

[@BowsettesFury]

“Ad friendly” is full of shit. Anyone that actually believes in the concept must not have ever watched a tv show or movie.

[@PunkNation26]

Violet Lynn Scraton Yeah, this is all about Leftist KZbin wanting to become an online television network. The television industry has waged war on content creators. I hope to God content creators find a way to fight back.

[@gabbymiller2230]

AngryBeaver30 that and because of the kids under 4 watching weird Elsa and Spider-Man shit and a ad about tampons comes on and the parents are shook, it’s really the parents fault for letting there kids go online and stuff

[@iJarib]

You know, I really wish you guys educated yourselves before you made outrageous comments like that. All networks have legal guidelines to follow before distributing their content on TV. It's called the FCC, and has established rules that has existed for a long time now. KZbin has the privilege of not having to adhere to guidelines, however that makes them significantly less advertising friendly as it has a higher risk of giving companies really bad PR. I'm on the side of the creators, but it really just sounds like a lot of you have no idea how anything works.

[@BowsettesFury]

It’s called being a parent beaver people like you are what’s wrong with society today.

[@gabbymiller2230]

Violet Lynn Scraton wow you all didn’t have to come for me 😂

[@NPC.6]

Lets call it what it is: CENSORSHIP. Period. Advertisers can easily be given the option to choose who they want to advertise for - simple fix. This excuse to censor free-speech being used by Google, Ytube and Twitter is pure BS.

[@BDaMonkey]

It's probably more a question of the advertiser's having the time to do that.

[@Manyissues101]

It's not censorship. They're not deleting your videos. Maybe you can't get paychecks off of them, but that was never your right to begin with.

[@TGTK-FreeSpeech-]

It's suppression, which is the first step in censorship. It's obviously on purpose, as the OP says, because there are channels that have been put on a black list. That means even if a sponsor tells KZbin they want to pay to advertise on that channel, KZbin doesn't allow them to. It's purposeful suppression with the intent of censorship.

[@thorodinson2017]

J Smith And no one can deny how blatant YT has been lately

[@darthrevan9733]

What options is there another platform just like KZbin? No they got people by the balls right now. Many people aren't big enough to get sponsors at all. This stuff has been destroying new channels for a few years now.

[@aderek79]

"Harmful" speech is an incredibly vague term. It leaves a huge hole for the personal opinions of self appointed censors to dictate what is "harmful". There needs to be a hard line with specific rules like inciting physical violence, slander, copyright infringement, etc.

[@Totoxert]

Do what you gotta do to stay true to yourself, Boogie.

[@pm79080]

"With software there are only two possibilities: either the users control the program or the program controls the users. If the program controls the users, and the developer controls the program, then the program is an instrument of unjust power." - Richard Matthew Stallman

[@Deltarii]

Can we go back to 2007 when KZbin wasn’t shit?

[@idiezsaucedo]

you rich youtubers should gather a part of their fortunes and launch their own video streaming platform

[@Vandicoup]

That's why I immediately deleted my reply. I just realized that Boogie was speaking for himself when I re-read the comment. It's a brilliant idea and something truly feasible if all the big KZbinrs garnered their earnings together to launch their own video streaming platform. That'd be amazing.

[@Vandicoup]

No problem. Just realized a mistake and corrected myself on it. ;)

[@mongrel_97]

not putting you down but that takes an insane amount of money.

[@jwaite987]

A lot of the top youtubers, as individuals, have insane amounts of money. Pewdiepie made 12 million just this last year. Get a few septiceyes and Markipliers and funding wouldn't be an issue. Those guys have generations of money.

[@TheBlackBeltPanda]

That's... actually a pretty cool idea.

[@PepsimVideos]

There's a typo in the thumbnail

[@ultispidey99]

Grant Dosland why didn’t I notice..

[@PSVitaat2am]

Fixed and corrected

[@biggozone]

now is a grammatical error

[@8688nick]

Grant Dosland You're the worst type of person.

[@Khaltazar]

If you keep the same amount of characters in a word and keep the structure mostly the same but swap some letters around (keeping the first and last characters as they are) you can mostly read and comprehend what is written. That is why most people can still understand spelling mistakes and even not see the mistakes.

[@DetroitP]

I agree 1000% with everything that you said

[@terrymurray9612]

Seth Rostker pretty sure 100% is max!! dumbass.

[@inaritenko]

He knows that. It's an expression, and you understand what he means. No need to insult him.

[@BananaMana69]

I really miss when KZbin was a hobby.. People just expect to be paid for videos nowadays. It was much better when it was just for fun..

[@Bossanova.]

Ikr..now they're retardedly money whoring

[@BananaMana69]

Turquoise Cheetah Yes exactly. In the beginning to become paid you had to be a KZbin partner and it was a process and you actually got a special Banner and stuff. I even remember KZbinrs who turned down the money because they wanted to keep it as a fun hobby.

[@raybellows9851]

It takes a long ass time to make content. If you want to watch videos on a weekly basis from the same person then they have to make money from it.

[@Odinsday]

KZbin 2006-2009 was the Golden Age. People did whatever the fuck they wanted (Aside from Viacom raping people for uploading Rugrats videos.)

[@RealmSprinter]

+Turquoise Cheetah okay what?? To clear thing's up, i NEVER said it started around 2010. I said "I(me myself) was around KZbin SINCE 2010". I was here long enough to know that you needed to be in a partnership, i had actually signed up for one and i was here long enough to have seen all of that; When cat videos and mundane things like that were the top trending. I said in my second comment that my memory was a bit foggy as well, so i couldn't remember much of how KZbin's system back then worked. But clearly I remember that we all had an inbox back then and that people could comment on the front page of your channel too. Though I'm curious, what do you mean when you mentioned how young I was? I mean i'm old enough to drive a vehicle on my own, but I suppose I'm still young

[@asacolbyweinstein1903]

I think that KZbin should be a place of complete freedom of expression with no filters. And companies should be able to chose what they want to advertise on.

[@MichaelGGarry]

Funny Face Productions how would that be possible. Are you relying on KZbinrs to self classify their videos? Or advertiser's to sit through every video before deciding what to advertise on? Both those approaches are seriously flawed. Is there another approach? It would be nice if KZbin stood up to advertiser's more, you think they'd have the size of audience to do that, but here we are...

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

You've never put yourself in KZbin's position when you made this comment, did you? Let's explore that. Imagine if you run youtube and some guy posts a video of him openly being a Neo Nazi or the KKK decides to make an account and is actively recruiting through the videos it makes, would you let them continue on the grounds of "complete freedom of expression with no filters"?

[@sandrojones8068]

+Asmodeus what's wrong with that?

[@MichaelGGarry]

Alexander Kaiser you don't see the problem with allowing extremist organisations using your platform as a recruitment and propaganda tool? Really? You know that even in the USA there is no such thing as "freedom of speech"? You can and will get arrested, sued or banned if what you say is beyond the extremes of accepted speech - that's not free in the way many people think it is.

[@sandrojones8068]

+Michael Garry if it's extreme and a goal is the presentation of Western culture then hell yeah. Neo nazi-up my KZbin.

[@RealMarkyb]

Ya know what youtube needs for competition? The brand new Ford F-150. That’s right the new Ford F-150

[@strabababerry]

KZbin has become a sort of monopoly for this type of content, sadly. I'm finding myself getting sick of this site quite often lately, but there's nothing quite like it and I end up coming back anyway

[@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes]

The science videos are good.

[@fomori2]

It is only a monopoly because the people let it be one. People that create the videos need to stop monetizing until KZbin changes or the advertisers pull out. The creators have the power to influence KZbin but it involves having the courage to say NO to getting fucked over for an ever decreasing piece of their pie. Radical change takes sacrifice and KZbin creators are some of the most selfish, narcissistic, people in the world... and there is no way they give up anything. Things are only going to get more Orweillian on KZbin and the creators bear some of the blame.

[@a15godzilla]

*raises hand* Is mayonnaise a hate speech?

[@TheCreepyninja]

No Patrick mayonnaise is not hate speech.

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

I'm sure they'll try and make it one. It is white after all.

[@thestonergamer420]

MysticAura thats cold

[@011mph]

Turbo mayonnaise is a racial slur against white people.

[@joshp3374]

Turbo Horse radish isn’t a hate speech either

[@Reginald_Harrison]

Why is it so hard for people to understand how the 1st amendment works? Freedom of speech doesn't apply to privately owned websites/businesses, the owner of the website/business can/will sensor speech. The 1st amendment protects you from government prosecution, and THAT'S IT.

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

That doesn't necessarily make it okay.

[@Manyissues101]

And NO one is guaranteed to get paid off of their videos. That's not censorship.

[@Reginald_Harrison]

FourthWaveX. The 1st Amendment doesn't apply to the globe. US only.

[@kingkevin267]

I think what they need to do is separate the advertisers. Think about it, if I'm advertising a alcoholic beverage, or tobacco products, my target audience should be grown adults, so be put on a video with a little swearing, or a little violence in a video game, or a edgy comedian, is not really a issue. Where as if my product is a Childs toy, being put on any of those videos is a issue. I think if they were to separate advertisers, then put those advertisements on the correct genre of video, then this whole mess will be solved, kind of like cable does.

[@kingjakar5299]

Kevin Weil true

[@shyguy2075]

"There is a utilitarian case for free expression. It recognizes that the freedom to speak must also be insisted on for the person who thinks differently, because it is pointless to support only free speech for people who agree with you. It is not only unprincipled to want that, but also self-defeating. For your own sake, you need to know how other people think." ~Christopher Hitchens

[@Dodoite]

I kinda went through this recently. I finally started a gaming channel (I know real fuckin original) just 2 months ago. I had a thought of "should I censor me swearing in case I start getting ads?" Then I had a thought of fuck that! I work full time as a software engineering and creating videos really takes the edge off and makes my mind feel fresh when I get to work. The last thing I want is to create while considering how I can maximize payment. We all need money that's true but then creating would be like any other job if we had to meet a criteria. Why would you want to be a youtuber just for money? Never forget why you started creating

[@NoPantsWonderDay]

Same situation! Just started my own gaming channel.... but I literally cannot get through a day without cussing. I play games because I love it... not because I hope to get paid for it :) Fuck censoring myself!

[@NoPantsWonderDay]

Exactly! Man.. I don't know how old you are, but when we were kids there were no online games... we used to go to eachother's houses to play games together. A big part of that was watching someone else play! Seeing their style, interacting with them, learning from them... etc. This is just like a way bigger version of the same thing!

[@Michael_Koko]

Same. I make “cringey, weeb, anime” gaming videos. I don’t make videos for the sake of gaining subscribers or making money. I make them because I enjoy playing these games and for my memories.

[@97I30T]

Mr. Dodo I think a lot of KZbinrs didn't originally start making videos for the money but once they started to make good money they got sucked into it for the wrong reasons. I don't think being a KZbinr was ever intended to be a sustainable long term career but many popular KZbinrs are treating it that way now.

[@danclyrogaming85]

Completely agree with what you're saying, think a lot of us are in the same situation. I'm Scottish so not trying to swear in my videos is almost impossible haha but yeah I do this as a hobby so I'm not that bothered about the all monetisation situation.

[@RobertoBlake]

It’s extremely complicated but for the long term good of the platform the current move is necessary ... at least as an intermediary step...

[@Jellyrollrider]

Any1 else watching without socks on?

[@TheMusicalStylingsofBrentBunn]

Nope, I'm sockin' it up right now :)

[@k9521__]

I am lol

[@streatchyfungus9287]

No.

[@blacktainfalcon7097]

Jelly roll rider o shit you found out

[@spookytalesfromthebayou3390]

Jelly roll rider i have socks on

[@LazarouDave]

That feel when you mention FilthyFrank doing it right...well, did R.I.P Papa Franku, your channel will be missed

[@sterlingarcher3861]

LazarouDave why'd he stop making videos? Because he was demonitized?

[@antler96]

Lil Gwopy he never monetized his videos. He did it for fun. He wanted to just make his own music he likes making.

[@good_marzen5169]

He wanted to focus on his music career, you can still follow him as Joji. However there was also a tweet that said doing Frank also gave him throat problems.

[@Flufferz626]

Lil Gwopy he has also had increasing issues with his epilepsy =(

[@Pisauce]

Favoritism and censorship is what will ruin YT

[@PresidentPixel]

Seems like there’s always gonna be a problem within youtube no matter what.....

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

Honestly I don't even care that much for all the commotion. It doesn't affect me, it doesn't affect the channels I watch.

[@sickbanana9799]

I agree with this 100%. I think its fine for anybody to say anything because theres always an audience for it. Just because you don't personally like it doesnt mean you need to completely rid of them. I have watched this youtuber before who got 60,000 views on most each video and he says that's what he wants to do is be a KZbinr. And throughout that video he explains how hard it is because youtube would demonitize his videos even with 1 swear word with it. And that's basically it, a normal vlog with 1 swear word gets you demonitized nowdays folks. I wanted to grow up being a youtuber and I still very much do. But looking at other people being demonitized for the littlest things gets to me sometimes, because I would think to myself "what if thats me one day? What if I'm financially struggling and KZbin won't pay me for something as miniscule as a cuss word?". Its honestly so scary to think about, but I will still continue to try at youtube!

[@DeluxeChin]

So wasn't it you Boogie who made a video about suicide, like an actual awareness video telling people that if they need help, to go get it, and that video got hit with a nice big yellow dollar sign telling you that it isn't right to make THEN Logan Paul shows a video of an ACTUAL dead person and it gets trending, no yellow button, and Logan Paul takes it off his channel after it gets a bunch of hate, then KZbin issues a statement like a week and a half later claiming they did the right thing. But no there aren't any favourite youtubers

[@vane909090]

There are creators that get millions of views, yet they're shut down by YT. Just sayin'.

[@zachmcmillan4060]

Actually,boogie is one of my FAVORITE content creators.😀

[@aj_3259]

Is mayonnaise an instrument?

[@MoistChungus]

Aaron Jimenez no it's a gender

[@saxotriste1354]

Its a social construction

[@xxcjz4538]

No patrick. Mayonnaise is not an instrument.

[@admma21]

No Patrick

[@saxotriste1354]

The gender an instrument?

[@jamessteiniger7016]

Dude. You look great. Keep it up.

[@jamessteiniger7016]

Michael O Callaghan I'm proud of you. Do they charge for the Cheetoh's? I may have to join your gym.

[@jamieweir9843]

KZbin, as far as competition goes, is an entity just like World of Warcraft.... It's pretty much its own competition and the only thing capable of stopping/overtaking it, is itself or its creators. I know WoW has dipped off in recent years but you get the general idea.

[@ironnancy]

Great video, but I don't really agree with what you said about KZbin and the Logan Paul situation. The only reason that Logan Paul was punished was because of all the media outrage. Logan Paul is the poster boy for KZbin, they will protected him for as long as they could. But the outrage was too much so they had to do something.

[@lightning0938]

IronNancy which says something about KZbin and what they consider harmful. It doesn't matter if he's your poster boy he violated the ToS and guidelines which means channel shutdown

[@gabeblack8247]

True, had there been no outrage there would have been no "action"

[@5teeleDuke]

It's funny another KZbin made a video in suicide forest a year before logs paul, they even shows 2 dead body's and the video is still up and monotized!

[@elbowblock6962]

Logan and jake make about 20 mil dollars a year for youtube Its normal to be protected

[@lightning0938]

steele duke were they as popular as Logan Paul? His popularity is why the fallout was instantaneous

[@arcadeparty4946]

When the comment section is a chat room. Most really big companies are always out of touch, as long as the $$$ keeps rolling and the shareholders are satisfied not much changes.

[@pixeldemon3267]

Arcade Party its a fucking conpompies

[@terryosborne2964]

Notice how much people are going with politics with this one but blaming the evil left or the evil right what you just said is one the real reason if advertisers are not happy with controversy they don't want controversy because it doesn't make them less money what's the real issue besides have to be something easy to blame those damn social justice Warrior KZbin or those damn red pillers hater of women some BS culture war that has little to do with it the old saying follow the money range true a lot of times

[@labbadab]

I'm unable to type well or as much as I'd like ( forgive me, I am in a lot of pain / very ill ) Yes, I agree with you totally. Been subbed with you for several years, not much I disagree with within any of your vids and your opinions etc - you're a down to earth, open and caring guy, a real sweetheart. I watch as often as I can, inc all other YT channels and stuff when my health allows. And, also (off topic and sadly, if I by chance can't or am unable to do for much longer ) there is something that I've been wanting to do but haven't had chance till now, is to give you or should I say leave you a ((( big, warm hug )))

[@TalonSky]

Hey, as an internet stranger, I hope you're doing okay. The world needs all the nice people it can get.

[@kuribojim3916]

The problem, Boogie, is that deciding where to draw the line is almost impossible. You say "unpopular versus harmful", but such a dichotomy doesn't exist. You might say that certain extreme jokes are merely unpopular, but what if someone feels bullied due to said joke? Isn't it then harmful? How do you possibly decide? The thing is, each of us have our own standards about what is harmful or unpopular. I can imagine a LOT of people saying that merely unpopular videos are actually harmful, simply because they disagree. I mean, you also say "the content has to be good" - but who decides that? Who decides if it's useful or not? You may think something is useful, but someone else may not. I think the answer here is probably twofold: 1. KZbin might want to introduce a classification system. Not just adult/non-adult, but a full on classifications system that better articulates the kind of content you're about to view. 2. If KZbin does implement content standards, they should clearly (and transparently) publish those standards and then enforce them. Whenever they delete a video, there should be some way for people to see the exact reason for the deletion (or for the enforcement action being taken).

[@MichaelGGarry]

James Burns who does the classifying though? The creator? The audience? The KZbin bot? Some combination of the above? All are imperfect, sadly, although I totally agree that would help the situation a lot.

[@kuribojim3916]

So, you'd have to handle classifications the same way as it's done on TV. I don't know how that works in the United States though. But what I'm suggesting is extending TV and movie classifications to KZbin. It might be reasonable for KZbinrs to self-classify, but to be subject to further moderation (and penalties for mis-classification). But you're right, all these solutions are definitely imperfect. It just seems to me that if we collectively want a higher quality KZbin that's a bit less Wild West, it makes sense to implement some standards that are fair and transparent. Not easy to do though. :-)

[@AnonyMorshu]

"Inclduing me" typo in the thumbnail.

[@Gamer_1745]

Thanks! As a little guy who gets demonetized daily (I think unjustly) I am so glad someone like you is speaking out!

[@nokachi3339]

A Gamer_1745 you have my sub

[@doobasaurus]

Way to promote yourself

[@Gamer_1745]

Thanks!

[@Gamer_1745]

I didn't put a link to my channel, Just thanked boogie for speaking well!

[@onyx62ishere]

I agree. We little guys have a hard time getting views and now to be demonitized is ridiculous.

[@NISSANZ33]

Maybe Amazon will create a competitor site where everyone can migrate. The execs at YT don't understand the relationship between creators and their viewers

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

You think Amazon, another giant corporation, wouldn't end up doing the exact same thing? The people moving would be the ones who caused all the commotion in the first place, they're just going to cause it somewhere else. KZbin's problem is the people who make the content.

[@Flufferz626]

The founder of Amazon is now the richest man in the world. Their stock is worth bank. You're kidding yourself if you think they are better. Take a look at stories about Amazon warehouse employee deaths for a start.

[@CheeseyMilkshakes]

Tom S Why? At least Google don't treat their employees like utter shit.

[@awesomeaustinlol]

You didn't quote Spider-Man, you quoted Uncle Ben.

[@culturesex3803]

Austin 9800 the profile picture checks out.

[@BrandonBlume]

What is "harmful speech" anyway? What's the best definition that'll help me out in understanding its concept?

[@captainbasch5387]

Brandon Blume harmful speech is free speech but the left came up with hate speech, so like if you say gay should not exist is hate speech but every one can disagree with you and have a debate. That is free speech.

[@sharpwingGmod]

Personally, I think the answer is or will be Blockchain internet. All that responsibility has to fall back on the individual and that can only happen if these big sites willingly give up control and only focus on the aspect of how many people they're catering to. These lawsuits coming up also need to establish that dissociating and outright purposefully silencing views are 2 different things. Outright deciding what OTHER people do and don't see unless it's a murder or terrorist content is insidious by it's nature. And even then some people post bombings in the middle east here to get their voice out there. To think that KZbin would just destroy these videos rather than hand them off to the appropriate authorities is a very evil thing in my opinion. And seeing how they've treated James Damore at Google, this isn't just a business thing for them. They want to destroy any and all opposing points of view no matter how flawed or damaging their point of view might be. They want to leave the world in the dark and force it to think and agree with whatever they say is right. This goes well beyond a freedom of association thing and anyone should be able to see that. This is one Corporation thinking it has the power to control what the entire World does and doesn't get to see. This is a corporation that wants to control the World Narrative with extreme prejudice by making any and all opposing points of view or "Problematic" figures disappear.

[@SodieJunkie]

Everything is just making it harder to be a new youtuber. I don't really know if it's just me, or maybe i'm just imagining things. These days are just highly discouraging.

[@milboxr9772]

SodieJunkie nah your correct, KZbin is turning to shit for big and small youtubers

[@theNewBee]

I've had my channel for almost 10 years. KZbin's new rules will turn off my monetization in 30 days. My channel is small, and I don't get a lot of views, I get that. Larger channels will flourish, of course, but we smaller channels are going to suffer. The algorithm already tags my videos as not advertiser friendly by default, which I have to appeal every time. This is a blatant move to limit revenue payouts, not as a 'safeguard' against the Jake Pauls, but to save YT money. At the rate I was growing, I will never hit that threshold they set.

[@ProfessorSprouts]

Defending liberty is a battle with no end.

[@williamoconnell12]

I agree with everything said here. Coming from a viewer perspective I think it really sucks that we can’t get content like Filthy Frank, like H3H3, like Pewdiepie or like Maxmoefoe. I think the current state is why H3H3, Jontron, and iDubbbz stray away from the website so often. I also think it’s part of the reason Maxmoefoe and Filthy Frank don’t and won’t upload to their main channels anymore. It’s disheartening that great channels are being scared away because of the KZbin algorithms. Just my thoughts though.

[@Card_lol]

SpookyScarySkeletons Pretty sure Joji had to quit filthy frank because he risked hurting his throat doing the voice or something like that

[@TheDeathReap]

I'm pretty sure KZbin's logo use to read "KZbin Broadcast Yourself" but that's gone now and rightly so as it's no longer the reality. You can't broadcast yourself if that self you're putting online is censored. Whether that be self-censored because of fear of being demonised or by youtube themselves ghosting videos they don't want to be seen etc. A lot of people swear, it's more common now than ever. It's how people exaggerate and emphasise a point (for the majority of cases). But you can't say "naughty word" anymore even though everyone knows and uses them. People also have opinions, opinions not everyone will like or agree with and they have a right to voice them. People forget that at the end of the day, KZbinrs are still people. They have their own thoughts and feeling about the world and how it works. People should be able to hear what they have to say and why they did or do what they do. Not allowing this paints a false picture of who these people are and what youtube is as a whole is, or at least was. It was built on creators that made these styles of videos. Vloggers who video their day to day lives. They are going to do and say some stuff that not everyone will agree with but that's their life, you're seeing them as they are. There are sketches that say some fucked up shit, but that's their humour and the people who watch that, share that humour. If you censor that, you're saying that its wrong to find that funny. Which it isn't, comedy a lot of the time, is people laughing at things they shouldn't find funny. You hear it on stand up DVD's all the time, a laugh, followed by a oowww noise. It makes them uncomfortable and that's why they are laughing. That's how a lot of people deal with shit that happens, with laughter. They aren't laughing because the thing itself is was funny, but because they know it's horrible or fucked up and it helps them cope. That's how comedians talk about real issues, they lighten it with humour. Being offended has become this huge issue that you're no longer allowed to do. You're not allowed to say anything in case it causes someone to be offended or they have their feelings hurt and it's madness. You might be offended, but others aren't and these things need to or are going to be talked about. you can't censor something because someone else doesn't like or agree with it. If that was the case you couldn't say anything becuase you can find offence in anything. To quote Ricky Gervais. "The simple fact is, offence is taken, not given. It's up to you if you're offended or not. And Remember, just because you're offended. it doesn't mean you're right".

[@PettyjohnGaming]

I have been watching your videos for a long time and they are always the best

[@BlitzGaming94]

Pettyjohn Gaming yes agreed

[@King_Gamer_1st]

Please tell me the misspelling of the word ‘Included’ in the thumbnail was intentional...

[@martingoddard3994]

King haha ikr

[@King_Gamer_1st]

Hugo A. Valdez did I say that it was killing me? no...

[@TheKavernacle]

I am mainly a politics KZbinr. I guess I would be described as ‘left’ but I see myself as just a guy with common sense. Whenever I make a video about Trump, Religion, feminism, and general politics I get demonetised straight away. I made a video saying Oprah shouldn’t run for President - and listed my reasons in a sensible manner - apparently that’s too controversial for advertisers (despite it being covered by every major news outlet) so I get de-monetised. It actually a joke and there is no room to grow at all if you cover serious topic and want to educate people

[@loganbmerrill9263]

"Harmful Speech" is based on an individual perception of harmful. Perception is reality, and everyone's perception is different. You don't want any one person or one COMPANY making the decision of what "harmful" is. Once you let someone make that decision for you, they have power and control of influence. Big problems are sure to follow, even with the best of intentions.

[@milklover5068]

Logan B Merrill iv heard this argument so many times before it’s stupid not to add any restrictions on harmful speech just coz there’s a chance it could be used in a negative way in the future

[@zurilift]

If the company owns the platform they can allow and not allow whatever they like. Just like you have your house rules they have theirs.

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

Eli R. Sure, but there are two problems… Firstly, I think platforms have an ethical obligation to be honest about their rules. If they have a political viewpoint and they want to editorialise content to fit it, then okay, but be open and honest about it. No tweaking the algorithm or bending the rules to quietly shadowban content you disagree with. Secondly, if one platform a monopoly, then that company is essentially able to control all public discourse.

[@mjc0961]

You already let KZbin make that decision for you when you signed up for _their_ platform and agreed to follow _their_ rules. If you don't like their rules, get the fuck out, go find somewhere else to be. The problem here is that KZbin doesn't enforce these rules for every person equally. Logan Paul shouldn't be allowed to stay on trending while people using portions of his video to comment or critique what Paul did get strikes and their videos removed. If Joe Schmoe gets a strike for posting it, so too should Logan Paul get a strike for posting it.

[@Liofa73]

You tube use a fairly basic interpretation of what's harmful. It's not difficult to abide by. And their guidelines are just pointing towards respecting other people and their differences. You tube isn't a soap box for fanatics. If you want to preach hate go do it on a street corner and watch how quickly the police show up and arrest you. Free speech doesn't extend to hate speech. If somebody hates somebody else because of their religion, gender, sexual orientation etc., then the problem lies squarely with that individual. You can disagree with somebody else, in terms of the way they live their life, but to hate a person because of it is quite ridiculous. The world would be fairly boring if we all followed the same lifestyle.

[@williamgoggins4984]

Boogie is woke.

[@williamgoggins4984]

youwishyouwereme ! Haha totally 😄

[@Nectarisa]

Are you fucking serious? IF anything, Boogie has a conservative slant.

[@williamgoggins4984]

GrumpyCat Im not using it like the sjw's do. I'm taking the piss out of them as he is 'woke' to the censoring bullshit the left tends to partake in. Shadily.

[@tobuslieven]

6:42 "My biggest concern is that KZbin will eventually start treating unpopular speech the same way they do harmful speech." I feel like that's started to happen since this upload.

[@seanhanson418]

The moment you have to start censoring yourself you have already lost.

[@Josu3e._]

No matter what we are always here for you

[@NoPantsWonderDay]

This is a tricky issue... The way I see it, KZbin was created for people to express themselves. If you want to be YOU, real and uncensored... do it. You'll be doing it because you love it. If you want a paycheck, unfortunately you've got to follow the rules (I can't go to my day job and swear like a sailor). You MIGHT get paid, but you might not love it. That being said... I seriously don't understand why creators can't list their channel as "mature" or "controversial" while still running ads. Advertisers would simply have to "opt in" for those categories. If cable, movies, magazines, comics, porn, etc. have taught me anything, it's that there are companies willing to advertise on most anything. Love you Boogie! Stay real!

[@voideater9749]

I stoped watching your videos for a while and now i see how mutch you changed .. you are an example of a extraordinary person!!

[@SevasTra388]

I would bet that no one at KZbin actually watched Logan Paul's video. They just saw "Logan Paul" and pushed it to trending and they just saw "Logan Paul" and cleared all the reported flags from the video.

[@milanthakkar9493]

Hey Boogie what headphones do you use

[@wabbajackwabbajack6932]

10:45 Boogie...FUCK THAT!!! George Carlin wouldve never gotten good if he didnt start out by pushing the envelope and seeing how people react to it. Only through those reactions could he get better. The same is true for any of us. I think its silly that youd get offended at a joke, even if it is a terrible joke. I love that we live in a country where you can make fun of stupid people and the stupid shit they do without violent reprocussions. You either believe in free speech or you believe in not being offensive. Those two things are mutually exclusive. Free speech includes the right to potentially offensive opinions, no exceptions.

[@sixstringedthing]

There's a difference between being "potentially offensive" and spewing hateful shit, or sticking hanging corpses in your thumbnail. Come on dude, don't be so fucking dense.

[@ConradZimmerman]

This is factually incorrect. Carlin didn't start out by pushing the envelope. The first half of Carlin's career was much more subdued and subtle. He spent decades refining his craft and was already a well-established comedian before he started venturing into the territory that would eventually define him. And that's the big difference here, the craftsmanship and experience at work.

[@wabbajackwabbajack6932]

no there isnt. Its more offensive is the only difference. People should be allowed to be hateful without violent reprocussions unless they themselves are violent. Perhaps youre too thick to take a joke? :P

[@wabbajackwabbajack6932]

yes necause EVERYONE watches Carlin's more tame stuff. No. Nobody has even heard of it because he wouldnt be who he is if he didnt learn how to be offensively funny. Cry about it but we live in a place where free speech is a thing. It doesnt matter how much you dont like someones speech, sicking the cops/courts on people to language police is a little bitch move for little bitches that cant handle reality. And thats definitely the direction this is going.

[@ConradZimmerman]

Well, they should. The Hippy Dippy Weatherman is some classic shit. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean people don't know about it. The world is a whole lot bigger than any of our experience. And I completely support the idea of free speech. People should be allowed to think and say anything that they want without the fear that their government will throw them in prison for it. But that's also completely different from believing that free speech means that your speech should come without consequences. It doesn't and it shouldn't. The so-called "edgy" comedy that you profess to love doesn't exist without cultural boundaries regarding what is and is not acceptable to say. You can't have one without the other.

[@hardcore907]

Bro. They blatantly demonetize political opinions that they don’t agree with - even from highly moderate people. Dave Rubin shouldn’t have to lose monetizations just because they don’t like a platform for opinions that are NOT THEIR OPINIONS. It’s total BS.

[@wschippr1]

Jon F Why? Does YT not have Free Speech too? Why should they be forced (like you are suggesting) to directly support something they don't agree with?

[@saadrehman1997]

It's a private organisation dude, they have the right to censor anything that maybe harmful to the platform.

[@JasonTDolan]

Rubin is a Jewish name so who gives a fuck

[@NieroshaiTheSable]

Ah, the good old idea that right equals mandate. Sure they don't HAVE to allow free speech. That doesn't mean they shouldn't support it from an ethical standpoint. That's why people are complaining, not suing.

[@Heeby-Jeebies]

It's noble for the KZbin community to agree that a high standard should be the norm, and it's admirable that anyone can join this place with a cheap camera and an idea. But it's hard to argue with those who exploit cheap/low brow uploads for the attention, clicks, & dollars. Ultimately, KZbin is a service that Viewers and Creators can enjoy for free, and while I agree that some videos shouldn't belong here, I'd keep KZbin's action as hands-off as possible. I would argue that the beauty of this platform is that the creator can put themselves out there in whatever way they please, and reap all the benefits & detriments. When we ask the admins to govern the platform, I'm afraid that we, the governed, will find our favorite part of the internet a little less free.

[@ChaosCloud96]

It has already been said in the comments but here is my two cents. We as a society all think there is a line that needs to be drawn for what is and is not acceptable whilst still maintaining freedom of speech which makes said line very hard to pin down. I know I will get hate for this but the Political correctness these days is awful and causing more damage than good. For example here in the UK most schools during sports days will either give all participants a medal or no medals for anyone so that those who are physically less capable don't feel bad or left out, the problem with this is that their is no reward for winning or doing well causing young kids to not see the value in what they achieved or in puting effort in and visa versa for the people who did not place well, for those kids they should be seeing the top kids play well and realise that in life some people are better than you at certain abilitites which would motivate them to either try harder if thats what they are into or motivate them to find their forte and passion. If we look at feminism, I am all for a woman having equal rights as they are humans the same as everyone and if there has been the genuine sexist reasoning behind them getting jobs and what, not the people responsible should be punished. However, when a man loses out on a job to a lesser qualified woman because the employer doesn't want to seem sexist we have a genuine problem as that is not equality. I can expand this to Race and sexual orientation and so on the point is people should feel safe and not attacked however where do we draw the line between it being there over sensitised or genuine reaction to upsetting content/material. Sadly the answer is PC is here to stay and thigs such as Racism, Sexism, safe space and all the rest of theese sad names will neve be gone because as Humans we will always have people with differing opinions, we will always have people who exploit these genuine issues to get their own way as well, sadly i believe their will be no end to it.

[@benjaminfisher5543]

There's a spelling mistake in the thumb nail you need to change that boogie. Not being rude just incase you didn't notice love your vids

[@Mizari27]

Ben Fisher including me*

[@onegnometorule]

There are 2 spelling mistakes in your comment; and it's missing 1 comma, 2 semicolons, and a dot.

[@KxngRose]

onegnometorule you don't put a , before and. Just saying.

[@onegnometorule]

@Micheal Myers: While optional, yes, you do (in lists of 3 items or more). It's called the "Oxford Comma."

[@merdab8]

in case is two words. I hope. Also, there's nothing wrong with alerting him to a spelling mistake in the thumbnail. Everybody gets spelling wrong sometimes, and not everybody is fluent in English. Be kind.

[@LexBlazer]

KZbin SHOULD be the place for unpopular and edgier things. That used to be the entire point. This is the internet, for god's sakes! And the last 6 months I don't feel YT is that place anymore (e.g; the decimation of Cannabis channels over the past months). These content-management issues are a mortal wound in YT's chest they need to fix. The executive of YT needs to be actively dealing with this - its the #1 threat to the platform.

[@corriveau21]

Since you got your surgery you look like you have way more energy

[@SeanOzz]

I’ve been out of the loop. What is this Logan and Paul video you’re referring to?

[@John-uw2je]

He video taped a dead body in the japanese suicide forest. KZbin didn't take it down even when it was trending, Logan had to take it down his self. Also hes banned from Japan now for other public disturbances he made there so good riddance.

[@phantom221856]

Sean Ozz Logan Paul is a content creator on KZbin (one of the biggest.) recently he uploaded a video where he went and filmed himself and his crew in the Japanese suicide forest. When they stray off trail they are surprised to find a recently deceased suicide victim. They then proceed to film the body and themselves laughing (could be nervousness) around it. They later uploaded it to KZbin and it stayed for a long time, even reaching KZbin's trending list with the body in the thumbnail. It was later removed and several informative videos on the subject have disappeared as well.

[@SeanOzz]

phantom221856 that’s crazy.

[@Wriers]

I'm pretty sure they don't leave them hanging as decoration like it's christmas, jeez

[@mojanglova]

You're a moron, they do, this is a huge forest and any bodies found are fresh.

[@Fludded]

There is an insistence that people should give a shit about wether or not KZbinrs make videos or not. If you find yourself caring, then maybe check the priorities in your life.

[@tabs1476]

You should be free to share your thoughts and feelings on KZbin.

[@Manyissues101]

You are free to share your thoughts and feelings, you just may not get paid for them, and it's not your right to.

[@knowledgeguru465]

boogie "I stand up for free speech" Boogie 5 seconds later "KZbin does a good job of removing harmful speech" Boogie mate... 'harmful' speech is still speech. In the words of the forefathers, Free Speech matters the most, when it is speech you disagree with.

[@TreePvper]

Harmful speech is usually speech that offends a lot of people, not removing it because they disagree they remove it because it offends and hurts people's on purpose. I get what your saying but according to you the United States doesn't has free speech, because you can yell fire in a movie theater and go to jail for it. Boogie stands for free speech as long as it isn't hurting people on purpose. KZbin does give you the freedom to upload harmful speech sometimes they remove it, they still let you upload it, and sometimes they just block it from getting ads.

[@justinmanship5431]

You have a right to free speech but KZbin has the right to censor anything they want on their website. So you don’t really have free speech in the sense many of the people commenting here think. The beauty of it though is nothing is stopping you from making your own site and allowing “free speech” in any form you desire.

[@xXbudred123Xx]

You're confusing harmful speech and hate speech, harmful speech is something that can have real harmful effects on someone, such as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater which could cause people to trample each other trying to escape, or slandering someone which can cause them to lose money and reputation due to a lie, or telling your audience to engage in these activities.

[@yakuza01]

I think people need to remember that free speech is the government not prosecuting you for what you say. Once again, YT is a private entity. Not sure why people keep forgetting that 'small' fact. Maybe it's easier for me to remember since I grew up in the 80's, in a world without YT. It is no different from being kicked out of a restaurant for wearing an Affliction shirt when they specifically say outside "No Affliction shirts" (and yes, I saw that sign in a restaurant once). Yes you can still criticize them for how the manage (or mismanage) content but lets not act like they are violating basic human rights either. Like Boogie himself said on the video, "it's a privilege, not a right".

[@knowledgeguru465]

Thankyou for telling me this. This makes more sense.

[@deliciou5977]

I think i overall agree with this message. I think though you should have been far more clear on what is harmful speech and what is not harmful speech because people are often manipulative and would say things like "You mobilized your army against by having a critical opinion" or "You're speech is spreading a bad message, therefore it is violence." What i am saying is, that you should have been more clear on the individual responsibility aspects of harmful speech and how even if a idea is bad they will NEVER be responsible for what other people decide to do with themselves after they hear the bad idea. We need to stop trying to infantilize people and make it so a person is individually responsible regardless of how other people decide to act based on whats been said. Otherwise you will never be able to have tough conversations that get at any truth more often then not if you are constantly walking on eggshells. The shout fire in a crowded theater while a good example doesn't necessarily sufficiently cover the topic of people trying to turn all criticism and offensive behavior into hate speech and violence in the most dishonest way possible. Overall i think the issue i have the most is you not more precisely defining what is good and bad and providing more examples and play things a little too safe. I agree overall though :)! Thank you for reading

[@levicokonougher1859]

Haven't watched a vid in 2 months and damn u look great

[@Skate2EDM]

Lil ghost same thing I was thinking.

[@MoookOfDuty]

KZbin shouldn't be concerned about controvertial videos being on their platform, sure don't monetize those videos but removing videos unless they are a copiright issue is just meaningless. No one is going to stop using youtube because of some videos they don't like. There just isn't another platform to go to.

[@yakuza01]

Yeah but you could also argue that nobody is going to stop using youtube (I am talking about not visiting the site ever, not just visiting it less) because they took down a few videos. Don't get me wrong, not necessarily on YT's side here but just stating more the facts on how the masses operate.

[@MuhaloTube]

Freedom of expression is an important idea, for sure. Getting PAID to express yourself is entirely different. As you said in the video, there are corporate entities supporting this content delivery platform that make it FREE to access. The price of that freedom (and the expectation of getting PAID) is having to fit your content into THEIR perspective of what's acceptable. I agree that the artificial intelligence on YT is woefully skewed to the very top of the bland, mainstream advertisers, and that otherwise decent content gets marginalized arbitrarily because of the limited logic that is being automated. But let's not muddy the arguments about access to a platform you don't pay for, and receiving compensation for publishing on that platform.

[@mitchelldunn9149]

Boogie, there is gonna be a moment where you actually have a neck. And I will be so so happy.

[@sixstringedthing]

I am totally down for celebrating "Neck Day".

[@TehMung]

Let's make "Neck Day" a thing

[@mitchelldunn9149]

I await Neck Day.

[@lpsneon7081]

He has a neck he just has a beard too. So it makes it look like he dont

[@TheKnightBlade4]

Joe "Its crazy that people call me a right winger, I love gay people"" Rogan

[@Frost517]

Boogie doesn’t push the envelope on Twitch. He rips the envelope inside out by the guts and warps it into 4th dimensional hyperspace and I’m here for it. Lmao

[@spiritedafar]

Damn Boogie looks thin af!!! Keep up the good work!

[@CronicGaming94]

Sucks how things have been lately on KZbin but hopefully things get better. But who knows.

[@CalForrer]

I'm not sure if this will ever be seen, but KZbin has gotten weird over the past few years. I've actually really wanted to create a KZbin channel to be able to have the opportunity to express myself creatively, and hopefully bring one more smile into the world. The problem is, with the more constriction of rules that have been applied by Google, it's becoming less and less possible for new creators to find a place in this chaos. Now with the 'Vine Invasion' I feel I don't really have a place on this network anymore besides a consumer of people who have already 'made it.' It concerns me quite a bit, and I'm disappointed in see the opportunity for greatness that KZbin is for the world slowly dwindle into this madness of supporting the Logan Pauls of the world. It's a broken system that is starting to go from inspiring, and an outlet of creativity and positivity, to this garbage cesspool of diss tracks and outrageously disrespectful and unabashed behaviour that alienates cultures from one another. I don't think it's just up to the creators on KZbin to be better, KZbin also has to be better. Just because it gets views and earns money doesn't mean they should support it. They need a morality check.

[@zurilift]

I personally think that some youtubers need to take absolute responsibility for what they say or do "not talking about people like boogie". I think some youtubers don't understand how influential their actions or words might be and how it can be either harmful or good for everyone else on this platform wether you are watching or creating. We need to all be responsible for our actions and words and be respectable "yes I know the internet is shit and will always have horrible people on it" but we can all make a change by being responsible.

[@TaintedDollx]

issa osama that’s common sense and that’s why it’s not happening haha

[@zurilift]

Sariah Michele true true

[@crunchytacoman2158]

even tho ive watched you for years this is my first comment I love you

[@SpectrumMommyAmylee]

I think what it really boils down to is, we as KZbinr’s need to really use basic common sense! Many of the young tubers do not use the basic common sense they were born with! If your instincts are telling you "this is really not cool to be doing" then maybe you should listen to that little inner voice. It is there for a reason! I'm not saying that we all need to conform to everything being thrown at us from KZbin and the public, but common sense should be used when deciding "hmm should I post a thumbnail of a dead body?" I agreed with Philip Defranco when he said that big tubers like the Paul brothers have way too many "YES men" who handles the business aspect of their channels. So most of the time they DON'T use common sense or do not feel the need to use it. I honestly think in general Logan was just not thinking! I don’t think that he necessarily wanted to find a body in the woods. I think his original intention was to prank the group or something, saying that there were “ghosts” and stuff like that. As far as him laughing and joking about it, I don’t think that was the intention to make a joke of it. His reaction struck me as a look of general shock and I think the laughing thing was him being nervous and his way of coping being around something that traumatic. Keep in mind he IS only 22, he describes himself as an immature “chach” all the time, and has never experienced anything like that before so to some extent I imagine it probably freaked him out. What he did was incredibly stupid, immature, and disrespectful, no doubt about that, but I am hoping he will walk away with this decision knowing what he did was wrong and stupid and what's even worse is that the fans watching are using his similar platform and getting in all kinds of stupid trouble and the old adage is a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I think that is what is happening now with KZbin. Instead of them just fixing one issue at a time they are tackling a multitudes of issues and overcompensating which affects everyone. Sorry for the long response!!! lol

[@robertstocklaufer1877]

I wish I could come up with something so original and so beautiful like the comment that John C made

[@WellxamGamer]

Just a though Boogie2988... how viable do you think it would be to petition the government to label youtube as a (I don't know the actual terms I'm looking for) public utility/pillar of culture, to force the ideal of freedom of speech/regulate the regulation (but probably not the monetization issue, which I pretty much agree w/ you on). Also do you think that it would be effective or make it worse ;~?

[@TGTK-FreeSpeech-]

If the 1st amendment applied to KZbin, KZbin would be like the old youtube again. Everyone gets to say what they want and get paid for it by who wants to pay.

[@Luigi64real]

Wellxam G'amer The government can't force advertisers to pay KZbinrs so the problem wouldn't be solved in anyway

[@Jrez]

KZbin is privately owned, that will never happen. The first amendment applies just fine, the government isn't interfering in anyone's speech on youtube.

[@TGTK-FreeSpeech-]

Google/KZbin being a monopoly can be regulated by the government as a utility, or broken up by the government so there is competition which allows free speech to thrive. It can, and has happened before.

[@SirIkeMedia]

Basically, the book "1984" is coming true.

[@Coverdrive50]

problem is youtube isn't demonetizing "unpopular speech" it's demonetizing conservative, libertarian and classical liberal conversations (Dave Rubin has been hit hard recently). These are not "unpopular" positions, in fact, it's the opposite. It's not even up for debate; KZbin is looking to censor non left leaning creators. It's time KZbin had some competition in the market.

[@TGTK-FreeSpeech-]

And since they don't have competition, it's time for the government to step in and break up KZbin so that there can be competition.

[@Blittsplitt5]

That's not the only content being demonetized lol..

[@lildwell2]

Guy Lloyd It is to him because he is the know if everything and everyone experience. if he doesn't see it happen himself, it didn't happen.

[@Milk382011]

Amen!!! It’s becoming a liberal only platform slowly

[@Coverdrive50]

That shouldn't be happening either but I guess my point is you've had to use a pretty extreme left wing example (marxism) to counter the point that conservative and libertarian channels are being demonetized more than liberal and left leaning channels. Kind of proves my point.

[@thealbinoshadow2490]

I totally agree. Take your intro for example... “Coming at you live from the power of the internet.” To restrict freedom of speech on KZbin would be to restrict the power of the internet (and let’s face it, 98% of the internet are opinions and people’s viewpoints anyway)

[@sixstringedthing]

No mate, 98% of the internet is porn. About 1% of the remainder is people's opinions. Come on, you know this.

[@walruslatte6080]

They aren't restricting freedom of speech, they're just not paying for it.