Books that Shaped America: Red Harvest

[@RolandWieffering1]

From 4:00 to 4:36 he doesn't mention "The Big Knockover, selected stories and Short Novels" among the books he wrote. While the "Continental OP" who features in those stories too, is based on Hammett's experiences with the Pinkerton Organization. He appears in Red Harvest and, as I recall, The Dain Curse, but with the stories from Knockover you really get an idea of all the different cases they come across.

[@dontaylor7315]

Yes! I think the Op was Hammett's most frequent protagonist in Black Mask. He was based on a guy named Jimmy Wright who was assistant superintendent of the Pinkerton branch in San Francisco and was Hammett's boss. I don't know yet whether the lecture is going to get into that, I just got here but had to take a break because that rocking camera's damn near making me seasick.

[@daviejacksonbaillie4330]

Millers Crossing was a combination or mish/mash of Red Harvest and The Glass Key. In my opinion.

[@dontaylor7315]

I've thought for four decades that Red Harvest was the original of Yojimbo and For a Fistful of Dollars, that the Op was the original Man with No Name, and finally I got to hear it confirmed!

[@mikemacdee6390]

see also: The Glass Key is the original Miller's Crossing

[@dontaylor7315]

@@mikemacdee6390 Thanks! Do you have a link? I just did a quick search and didn't find it on KZbin but that doesn't mean it isn't here somewhere; YT searches are glitchy sometimes.

[@Bigwave2003]

9:25 WTF? Was this filmed on a ship in rough seas?

[@pablojlascano8322]

WOW, thank you very much for the list of movies... I know what I will be watching next. If anyone is interested, I transcribe the full list here (20:16): 1) 1930 "Roadhouse Nights" 2) 1961 Akira Kurosawa's "Yojimbo" (Samurai setting) 3) 1964 Sergio Leone's "A Fistful Of Dollars" (Western setting) 4) 1986 "Last Man Standing" (Gangster film? like the novel?) 5) 1984 "The Warrior And (Of) The Sorceress" (Fantasy setting) 6) 2005 "Brick" (High School setting)

[@pablojlascano8322]

Yet another film mentioned, by the Cohen bros. "Miller's Crossing"

[@DomBrownyo]

Hello, as a film fanatic who did qualifications in film making and criticism, I salute your film list. LMS great but not as great as Yojimob. AFOD is cinema history in entertainment, and BRICK, just a massive pure delight for NOIR fans who had already watched every good noir film... tho tbh, i'll never ever forgive or forget what that prick did with starwars. 'Rose' enough was tanamount for a lfietime of hate...and there were 100+ mistakes in being involved in a star wars film.

[@arthurkoblitz9096]

Excelent class and excelent discussion! Enriched so much my reading of Red Harvest. Thank you very much!

[@pamelahoven5577]

I wish that the people talking in the background would shut up.

[@dontaylor7315]

It looked to me like a public lecture but then all the racket pretty much ruled that out. More like a musician or standup trying to play a club full of drunks. If there were real people in there who came because of the topic why didn't he tell the assholes in back to go play somewhere else?

[@thepurgatorykids]

It's clearly a classroom. My guess is that it was students just outside the classroom, on the other side of the door. Nothing you can do there. Plus, the people present in the classroom would've done a bettee job of ignoring them than the objective microphone.

[@MalcNoble]

Come on, keep the damn camera still!

[@RolandWieffering1]

That's why I only listened and didn't watch.... LOL

[@dontaylor7315]

The camera was making me seasick.

[@paulvalentine4157]

unwatchable due to rude students in the room Professor Dussere - get control of your class, respectful students suffer from a small number of disrespectful ones.

[@HolgerKuhrts]

The interesting discussion stops somewhere in between, so i don`t know about the end. I hope somebody points out the analogy to the red revolution ( sic ) in russia a few years before the book was written, the failed first strike during the war is a reference to the failed revolution of 1907 and it was a class war, as Marx defined it as well as the alienation between individuals as a result of a capitalist society. Hammett was deep into phlosophy and his thoughts about it are reflected in his books.

[@DomBrownyo]

He saw capitalism as being the unrestrained demon that ruins a majority of peoples lives...but we are distracted with drama and the ruling elite control of the MSM. Thats life. See Citizen Kane for more and learn about poltiics to understand the rest.

[@zoliv75]

very interesting. thanks

[@MadIvanpb]

Just a thought about the ending points. Communist in general have a way of thinking that seems to start with the disdain for the non-communist. This manifest itself as wanting to burn everything down... You will see this theme over and over in Communist/socialist writers method of dealing with the "unwanted". Doubly so when the communist/Socialist take power. So, the end point for me is not confusing at all.

[@DomBrownyo]

The 1% will always demonise communists, socialists, anyone nice who thinks people should not suffer. Take that into your life and u will udnerstand the system. AMerica is thee only rich nation without universal healthcare for example.

[@MadIvanpb]

@@DomBrownyo wow, I'm the 1% now? I had no idea... As for how amazingly communist demonize America. America has such amazing healthcare we have medical tourism from all over the world. Communist have a long history of death camps paid for out of the universal healthcare budget. Gulags, re-education camps, generational prisons, and killing fields all over the world... gee, only selfish fools would still be communist.

[@carlnoe2]

This is awful. The distraction is unbearable. I would have enjoyed the lecture if the camera and noise hadn’t ruined it.

[@tomsehon3322]

Students were indeed rude. But the professor (1) said very little that was new and (2) was basically unpreprepared. His "cool, informal" approach isn't working.

[@nicokarsen6131]

awful--thanks for nothing

[@deanspeir]

This is perhaps the most boring presentation of a fascinating subject I've ever sat through. Erik Dussere is a terrible lecturer! It's 68 minutes of my life that I'll never regain, but which offered me nothing in the way of enlightenment.