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Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells was booed by subpostmasters, grilled by lawyers and pushed to tears multiple times during her three days’ evidence to the Horizon IT Inquiry.
The ordained priest entered the witness box at Aldwych House in central London to face what one former subpostmistress described as a room of people with “eyes full of hatred”.
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@riverside471
@riverside471 4 ай бұрын
They didn't fight for decades to see Paula Vennels say sorry. They fought for decades for justice.
@patinho5589
@patinho5589 4 ай бұрын
The word “Justice” doesn’t mean anything. It’s a word only used in a victim narrative to say “please love (care about) me”. That’s the deep truth. People should indeed love each other and care for each other. The so called justice system does not do that. And people don’t do that.
@deekthepict
@deekthepict 4 ай бұрын
aye ''their'' justice master/slave
@riverside471
@riverside471 4 ай бұрын
@@patinho5589 There will never be perfect justice because the subpostmasters will never get their lives back or most of what they lost. And yes, there's a lot wrong with the justice system. But I believe those responsible for ruining these people's lives, mental health, physical health, relationships, financial wellbeing and/or community respect should be held to account. More to the point, the subpostmasters believe the same.
@crazyhai8155
@crazyhai8155 4 ай бұрын
​@patinho5589 I disagree. Justice isn't just about being 'loved and cared for'. And it's not necessarily about being a 'victim'. You're taking a fundamental concept, millenia old, and reducing it to what some current 'snowflakes' interpret it as. But I don't believe that is even the majority perspective. Justice is fundamentally about fairness. I'm extremely annoyed at the injustice here - and it's certainly not that they weren't 'loved and cared for', for me. Rather, it is the gross unfairness they were subjected to, whilst just living their lives. And I've not seen ANY of them saying anything, fundamentally about wanting to feel 'loved and cared for'. They seem to fundamentally want acknowledgement of how their lives were destroyed; explanation for how it happened, and fair compensation to help them rebuild their lives. Not principally 'love and care'.
@Refflog
@Refflog 4 ай бұрын
@@patinho5589I don’t agree either, they are without a shadow of a doubt going to vindicated in this inquiry and with any luck those who were complicit at the POL will face charges. If there is any justice in the world. I hope this creates a snowball effect to the many corporations that are having us all over.
@albertliu1068
@albertliu1068 4 ай бұрын
She has put up a much more intelligent performance throughout this enquiry than people realise. She might have appeared to be ignorant and dumb on many occasions but I sense that it is part of her deliberate strategy to distance herself from any potential criminal charges. Hence her evidence given often seems to be quite random and full of gaps concerning IT disclosure and sub postmasters. There is a pattern in her responses to the questions. Where they are related to IT bugs, her knowledge and awareness on convicted cases and legal advice surrounding sub postmasters, she deliberately made herself looking ignorant and blaming all the faults on other people. She knows that being incompetent is not a criminal act but by deliberately withholding evidence to interfere in the administration of justice (perverting the course of justice) and causing death (corporate manslaughter) are. So she did not admit once in the past 3 days that she might just know about the bug and the disclosure issue before 2013 - she is much cleverer and smarter than people think otherwise she could not be the CEO in the first place. Throughout the enquiry, she stubbornly stuck to her single line of defense which was 'she should have known but she did not know' (a famous phrase used by Albert Speer at Nuremberg trials in 1946 which got him off from the death penalty - he was known to be the one who got away! ) because her colleagues failed to keep her fully informed. You would also notice where questions are related to non Horizon and sub postmasters issues, she happily remembered everything and was able to give details down to individual names. I don't think given the amount of documentary and audio evidence, there is any doubt that she knew all along as MD and later CEO and she was doing everything and deploying every available resources to silence the noises from the sub postmasters. Regardless what she said, I think there is now sufficient evidence to charge her on perjury, perverting the course of justice, corporate manslaughter and obtaining money by deception as soon as the inquiry is over!
@jhofster31
@jhofster31 4 ай бұрын
Ultimately it all comes down to the documents and inquiry has done a fabulous job of digging out some very damning written evidence.
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork 4 ай бұрын
Yes. I too noticed that her memory seemed much sharper on non Horizon (less dangerous) issues. The truth is obvious, and has been for years. Horizon was faulty, the PO knew it, but they thought smashing the Subpostmasters would be better and easier than admitting they had caused it all in the first place. I really hope she is held to account for this. POL could easily have 'put their hand up' and admitted it was Horizon, but they didn't. This sort of decision is only taken at the highest level- hers.
@malcolmharfitt4032
@malcolmharfitt4032 4 ай бұрын
Quite so. Good analysis.
@joeyglewnston
@joeyglewnston 4 ай бұрын
Calculative and manipulative
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 4 ай бұрын
She definitely should be charged and some others too.
@sarapiper385
@sarapiper385 4 ай бұрын
She should give back her £3 million bonus shame on her and all the others he was lying and put these poor innocent people into prison
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 4 ай бұрын
Hasn't she suffered enough? That brought her to tears with this heavy handed, thuggish approach.
@Decrepit_biker
@Decrepit_biker 4 ай бұрын
​​​​@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 are you JOKING??? no, this cost people their lives and in some cases pushed people to suicide. She needs to be PROSECUTED for this. She knew EXACTLY what was going on, and thats obvious despite her attempts at minimisation and playing dumb. The buck stops with her, at the top of the tree. She doesn't know the meaning of suffering.
@MartinSmythOnline
@MartinSmythOnline 4 ай бұрын
@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 Suicides Bankruptcies Marriage breakdown Mental and physical health Loss of homes Stigma But poor Paula had to endure a few days of hard questions. She can now jet away with her millions.
@theloneranger2101
@theloneranger2101 4 ай бұрын
@Decrepit_biker Here Here! She's a Wretched Women!
@canalboating
@canalboating 4 ай бұрын
@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 Are you joking,
@tonychorley4936
@tonychorley4936 4 ай бұрын
A craven self serving account, love it. She is a self serving , self righteous individual , working hard to serve herself.
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely bloody disgusting.
@stevenmoore3480
@stevenmoore3480 4 ай бұрын
She isn't the only one though is she, what about the rest of them?
@Steve14ps
@Steve14ps 3 ай бұрын
"working hard to serve herself." also working hard to save herself
@DelTangBrav
@DelTangBrav 3 ай бұрын
​@@stevenmoore3480 I agree, every employee who said "no one else has complained about this problem" MORE THAN ONCE should be held accountable too.
@robinmyman
@robinmyman 4 ай бұрын
Crocodile’s tears…you ruined 100s of honest hard working lives. Shame!
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 4 ай бұрын
Definitely.
@Platterpussy
@Platterpussy 4 ай бұрын
and got massive amounts of cash out of it
@zetsupain
@zetsupain 4 ай бұрын
Sorry for my ignorance. What happened? What is she charged with ?
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 4 ай бұрын
She wanted the company’s share price to be unaffected by the problems of being tied into an agreement with Fujitsu and their accounts software, so she and her little gang punished the innocent plebs and make them answer and pay up for misposted and lost payments. It’s the sort of thing Jesus and the late Lord Denning would do.
@capturesexpress
@capturesexpress 4 ай бұрын
Nobody knows if she is crying for them, herself, both, or not at all
@vimfuego8827
@vimfuego8827 4 ай бұрын
She is not in a cloud of denial, she is in a cloud of lying and it is now clear she needs to face criminal justice for her lies.
@dortchem
@dortchem 4 ай бұрын
She's only apologizing because she got caught for being a bad and lazy person.
@stevenmoore3480
@stevenmoore3480 4 ай бұрын
same old same old
@roberttaylor7373
@roberttaylor7373 4 ай бұрын
NO SYMPATHY FROM ME. SHE NEEDS TO LOSE HER HOME/THE 5 MILLION POUNDS PAID TO HER AND SERVE JAIL TIME. IT IS ONLY RIGHT BASED ON THE WAY SHE TREATED THE SUB POSTMASTERS.THEY DID NOT DESERVE IT.
@dcvariousvids8082
@dcvariousvids8082 4 ай бұрын
Basically she falsely accused innocent people, stole from those same people and cheerfully banked that money as a personal bonus… and she has the gall to cry for herself. Yes cry for herself and again blame others, while conveniently forgetting the pain, falsely imprisoned, the broken reputations, suicides and early deaths, of those who filled her personal bank account. And she’s only sorry for herself. It is she who ought to empty her bank accounts, give it back to the people she and the PO stole from; and she ought to spend a long time in jail. Serving the time she took from others. All this she knows… and yet she cried only for herself.
@turnerdali4676
@turnerdali4676 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍🏼. She should be jailed.
@dustersinternational221
@dustersinternational221 4 ай бұрын
💯% definitely, crooks all of them.... Shame on those that hid the truth. Karma
@carrier411
@carrier411 3 ай бұрын
well said
@johnhall4851
@johnhall4851 4 ай бұрын
Vennells did more than let the victims down; she was complicit in 400 people being wrongly convicted of serious crime. Can we demand her arrest for serious criminal activity.... perverting the course of justice for one....
@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 4 ай бұрын
Perverting the course of justice is exactly the right charge to bring, with full knowledge she deliberately ignored the problems with horizon and took court action against people to cover up the shortcomings of horizon. I can only hope she and the other prime movers in the POL management get prison sentences that reflect the years of hurt and anguish they inflicted to the sub postmasters and their families.
@nigelmcculloch3746
@nigelmcculloch3746 4 ай бұрын
I think that all those involved should at least pay back all extra pay they received since the start and only be paid a base salary till they do ( including mp's) and if anyone knowingly committed a offence should be charged
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 3 ай бұрын
100%
@amandahudson2038
@amandahudson2038 3 ай бұрын
You can demand but if cps are not convinced you have not a hope.
@amandahudson2038
@amandahudson2038 3 ай бұрын
They didn’t have the good evidence against her in the tv bit. She is only sorry she has been caught with her hand in the till. Where where the Nolan code, o yes she cried all,over itand could not read it.
@yeahdefinitely6607
@yeahdefinitely6607 4 ай бұрын
I love that Ms Hamilton is seated so calmly right in front of Paula - like a searing burn on her conscience
@mickdowns5345
@mickdowns5345 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I thought that..and Lee C To the rear on the right.
@amandamcauley
@amandamcauley 4 ай бұрын
Mrs Hamilton's expression said it all.
@joerudnik9290
@joerudnik9290 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think Vennells will care. She’s more concerned about people above her, that control her paycheck. 😉
@barryj388
@barryj388 4 ай бұрын
I don't think she has a conscience.
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 4 ай бұрын
@@barryj388 totally agree. She had many, many opportunities to demonstrate this and just say ‘stop’ but she chose, again and again, not to. To allow lives to be destroyed like that shows us who she is. She’s ’deeply sorry’ she got caught, that’s all. She needs to go to prison for the length of time each person whose investigation happened under her watch, added up and times by 10.
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 4 ай бұрын
She's plain evil.
@mikelheron20
@mikelheron20 4 ай бұрын
Absolute rubbish.
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 4 ай бұрын
Snivelling for herself because she got caught ,not for the people who were ruined or took their own lives. Anyone who's ok with that is on the same moral spectrum as her. Have a nice day.
@juliet3827
@juliet3827 3 ай бұрын
She's also an Anglican priest, can you believe it???
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 3 ай бұрын
She become one later on because she thought it would be a testiment to her 'good ' character. She's a disgrace to the church.
@nevadatan7323
@nevadatan7323 3 ай бұрын
Evil doesn't exist. This is the real world and it stems from rampant greed and self-interest.
@chuckyc6912
@chuckyc6912 4 ай бұрын
She should have to give back all her bonuses. And spend the rest of her life in jail.
@HandleorHandle
@HandleorHandle 4 ай бұрын
Laws in the UK need to be brought in to protect the public against these criminals and fraudsters acting in the UK corporate world! Accountability laws are what is needed to make the wrongdoers do the right thing in the future!
@steveni1459
@steveni1459 3 ай бұрын
even sunak should face prison for handing his tax dodging wife millions of our cash why should we be standing by letting him get away with it...there all crooks but we are made to pay for there crimes..
@wickedwitchoftheeast88
@wickedwitchoftheeast88 3 ай бұрын
​@@steveni1459 thats what really pisses me off about the MP's they have the utter nerve to look their noses down at the working class for how we live and go after those comit benefit fraud when they thieve millions in public money and they should know better with the wealth and privileges they were born into
@HandleorHandle
@HandleorHandle 3 ай бұрын
Yes Paul vendables loved the post office to withhold information and non disclosure of information to not protect the innocent people but more incriminating them fully so they go to jail , her actions & many others were try to derail the investigation process to suit her and the post office directors on boards agenda !! Laws on disclosure should be brought into action to protect the public against these types of directors , managers , fraud investigators burying their faces under sand now ! Prue evil and unlawfully , more like criminality against communuties .
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 3 ай бұрын
The problem is the people who have the powere to change the law won't as it is designed at the moment to benefit them
@rogereynon4954
@rogereynon4954 4 ай бұрын
I hope the image of Vennells being escorted away by Police is a portent of things to come. Imagine a person if the cloth - allegedly one of compassion - being so enabling of the most vindictive people. There's a nice warm place waiting for her - and here's a test for British justice. Will it be done? Will the privileged and elite face the level of just the nation is calling for?
@LordoftheFleet
@LordoftheFleet 4 ай бұрын
Probably not!
@tommac5411
@tommac5411 4 ай бұрын
She should be glad that a police escort was present.
@BrysonCole-rl2rj
@BrysonCole-rl2rj 4 ай бұрын
Was that to make sure she turned up and didn’t flee the country?
@smrriles5668
@smrriles5668 4 ай бұрын
Why???? Do you want a lynching?? She is due a fair trial, if you think otherwise you are no better than the post office
@movesky6696
@movesky6696 3 ай бұрын
she get a lock up
@IbnBahtuta
@IbnBahtuta 4 ай бұрын
The nice smiling lady has been staring at Vennells for 3 days solid. I only found out today who she was. She is awesome, bless her.
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 4 ай бұрын
Jo Hamilton and Alan Bates have been at the forefront of the campaign for justice. None of this would have happened without them. Successive ministers were not particularly interested. E.g Ed Davey
@eliotmansfield
@eliotmansfield 4 ай бұрын
she’s been sat there nearly every day - seema misra is often there too
@trishmarshall2371
@trishmarshall2371 4 ай бұрын
Jo Hamilton is a classy woman. My respect to her and all the other SPMs involved 🙏🏻
@BossySwan
@BossySwan 3 ай бұрын
Mrs Goggins
@robinblick9375
@robinblick9375 3 ай бұрын
You can see that inside, she burns with loathing.
@stpd1957
@stpd1957 4 ай бұрын
Ah c'mon, there weren't that many tears. It was a performance. She will be protected by the CPS, her church and the ruling political class. She will never be held accountable for her actions regardless of the outcome of the enquiry. She had to 'endure' three days of forensic questioning; this is water off a ducks back to people like Vennells. She can relax now and go back to her church and wallow in all the money she 'earned' during her less than illustrious career. What has she lost? Just the ridiculous little trinket that she had to return? Not much in fact. That is a very small price to pay for her disgusting behaivour.
@pinballrobbie
@pinballrobbie 4 ай бұрын
I would love to hear what her Church had to say about Paula, a great advertisement for the Church.
@Scott-up3bq
@Scott-up3bq 3 ай бұрын
Jonathan Aitken,and Jeffrey Archer committed perjury and went to jail.never say never.i liked your comment.but we can hope
@tomhollandroberts1737
@tomhollandroberts1737 3 ай бұрын
@@pinballrobbie I wonder what the head honcho of the C of E thinks????
@theloneranger2101
@theloneranger2101 4 ай бұрын
Why is she entitled to have been escorted into and out of the inquiry by five Police Officers for three days? She has certainly Swingled enough bonuses from the Subpostmasters to pay for her own security. Again, tax payers picking up the bill for the so-called entitled in our society, it makes me so annoyed that she gets this privilege. I really hope she ends up in a court of law and is sent down to spend a good few years to reflect on the harm she has done to these innocent people at the Kings Pleasure. That would be a very fitting end to this Wretched Woman.
@TheLampini
@TheLampini 4 ай бұрын
I did hear that she's had some private security at her massive house for the past couple of years - I doubt if THAT came out of her £5.1 million.
@happyjonn9242
@happyjonn9242 4 ай бұрын
Because if the police weren't there either she would be attacked and sue the government meaning our taxes would be paying her compensation, or she could just refuse to attend on the grounds that it isn't safe.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 4 ай бұрын
Because she's had hundreds of death threats.
@theloneranger2101
@theloneranger2101 4 ай бұрын
@happyjonn9242 I did say in my comment that she is wealthy enough from her bonuses alone to pay for her own security, it shouldn't be the Tax Payer picking up the bill for her security. The inquiry she attended lasted 3 days, and the 5 Police officers escorted her in and out of the inquiry for 3 days. Now, don't you think those 5 Police officers would have been better employed doing Police work for the community and not escorting this Wretched Women!
@happyjonn9242
@happyjonn9242 4 ай бұрын
@@theloneranger2101 even if she paid for her own security police would still be required in case one of her bodyguards decided to stamp on someone's head. And look at Mark Duggan inquest for an example of how intimidating these things can get when emotions run high. police are required, just deal with it.
@fuckbankers
@fuckbankers 4 ай бұрын
Suicides Bankruptcies Marriage breakdown Mental and physical health Loss of homes Stigma ....
@ThePritch74
@ThePritch74 4 ай бұрын
This. Spot on and horribly factual. x
@clivebaxter6354
@clivebaxter6354 4 ай бұрын
But she did her very best lol
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 4 ай бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354did her very best to ignore it and cover it all up.
@2412Bec
@2412Bec 4 ай бұрын
She couldn't be any more disingenuous 😂 Oh my lord, contradiction after contradiction
@colinhayter4029
@colinhayter4029 4 ай бұрын
She loved the Post Office yet destroyed it along with many who loyally served it.
@cndns2
@cndns2 4 ай бұрын
We've been watching this inquiry and after 3 days of watching PV's lies and putting blame on others, it becomes evident she is devoid of human feelings and compassion. Despicable creature this.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 3 ай бұрын
Vennells is a great example for the integrity of the Church of England
@tomhollandroberts1737
@tomhollandroberts1737 3 ай бұрын
@@howardosborne8647 and the head of the church.
@BoojayDeeth
@BoojayDeeth 4 ай бұрын
Denial is the traditional route for those desperate to avoid prison.
@RosieHarp
@RosieHarp 4 ай бұрын
As Cliff on 'Faking It' tells us, if you cry genuinely it takes the voice a long time to recover. It took her 1 second, then she realised her mistake and went back to the whiny voice. SHE'S FAKING IT .......
@mikegleed5842
@mikegleed5842 3 ай бұрын
👍
@josephhoward3558
@josephhoward3558 4 ай бұрын
Even now she can't connect to an ounce of genuine regret or shame.
@kevinmcguire1049
@kevinmcguire1049 4 ай бұрын
She is right, she loved The Post Office, the institution, and that came first above the people who worked for it…..and at their expense…
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 3 ай бұрын
I think her love for the Post Office brand comes a very distant second place compared to her love of wealth and personal gains. She is just like so many other hypocritical characters in the many religious cults.
@WilliamjameswestWEST
@WilliamjameswestWEST 4 ай бұрын
SHE WALKED AWAY WITH £5.1.MILLION.😢😢😢😢😢
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 4 ай бұрын
This woman has no scrupulous, ethics, humility and I dought even a reflection!
@WilliamjameswestWEST
@WilliamjameswestWEST 4 ай бұрын
Hhhaaa post bag,a under her eyes
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 4 ай бұрын
No wonder she loved the Post Office so much
@WilliamjameswestWEST
@WilliamjameswestWEST 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Goozo612
@Goozo612 3 ай бұрын
And it still looks like that 🤡😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Pat14922
@Pat14922 4 ай бұрын
This inquiry, for her is the prequel. She has her eye firmly fixed on the criminal trials to follow. She has decided that ignorance and incompetence is her best defence, and has had several years to prepare and practice it. Her response to the enquiry was 750 pages., which says alot. Her Legal council for key years has decided to stay in Australia 😁😁
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 4 ай бұрын
When she says that she has been working on this full time for 2 years, that is exactly what she means. I fear she will succeed
@Pat14922
@Pat14922 4 ай бұрын
@@fatbelly27 I'm not sure. Much of the work was on email, and therefore evidence.
@DennisHughes-h8b
@DennisHughes-h8b 4 ай бұрын
I find it so hard to believe that someone such as Paula Vennels as CEO of the Post Office Ltd has the audacity to say that she knew so little of what was going on about the Horizon scandal. I lived in Bethesda, North Wales up to 2014 before my wife and I moved to the East Midlands. Even I knew about the scandal long before I left North Wales as I lived not far from Gaerwen where the sub postmaster there was sent to jail. How can she be so shameful and lie on oath to deny knowledge of such things? I cannot recall, I was not told, I can’t recollect cos it was so long ago and on and on. Yet she could remember quite clearly as far back as 2010 when she was managing director of discrepancies in other staff members work. What a joke. She could remember absolutely everything which might incriminate others but “could not recall” anything where there was any chance of her incriminating herself. She lied on oath and should be sent to the Crown Court for this even. Another charge would be to have removed valuable information from the papers when Royal Mail was sold which any intended shareholder should have by law have known before buying. She lied and I can’t wait until the enquiry comes to an end to read their conclusions. It was outright disgusting the obstacles placed in the way of Alan Bates in his quest to find the truth. It took him years to get the information and Paula Vennels was determined to spend whatever it needed of public money to grind Mr Bates down no matter what the cost. She was effectively trying to bankrupt him out of the way. Jesus died on the cross. She should go the same way. To think she is on a shortlist as the next Bishop just shows the corruption within the church in which she is an ordained minister. HOW SHAMEFUL AND CORRUPT IS THAT ALONE? She should go to Jail for the collective amount of time she sent the innocent sub post masters to jail to serve. She should also be bankrupted as that she forced the sub postmasters to do. She even had the cheek and be so cruel against the innocent sub post masters whom she knew were wrongly convicted to make them pay the PO costs in each case. THIS PROVES BEYOND ALL DOUBT THAT SHE WAS HELL BENT ON PROVIDING THE MAXIMUM PROFIT POSSIBLE FOR THE SALE OF THE ROYAL MAIL AND MAKE HER LOOK GOOD WHICH IN TURN WOULD MEAN A GREATER BONUS.
@getheroutofthetruck
@getheroutofthetruck 4 ай бұрын
'I was more bored than outraged.' Wow.
@phil7794
@phil7794 4 ай бұрын
As the boss of this 'legal mafia' she should be locked up straight away along with her fellow cohorts. If there is any justice then arrest warrants must follow very soon. If not, then this is further proof of a cover-up reaching the highest levels. I find it coincidental that a General Election has been called at this time just as the Public Enquiry has reached its concluding stages.
@IggyGoesPop666
@IggyGoesPop666 4 ай бұрын
In preparation for this three day event, Vennell's would have undertaken dozens of practice training cross examinations with her lawyers to iron out how to present herself and deflect the accusations during the inquiry. She knows that it's not working as she is constantly breaking down in tears, whilst we can see that she was either asleep at the wheel or she is lying about her time in charge of the Post Office! Either one, its obvious to see that her priority was always to look after herself, her reputation, her performance bonuses & pension top ups as she happily sat back and watched people lose their livelihoods whilst some of them lost their lives. She now needs to be investigated by the Police on criminal charges and if/ when she is found guilty ... she needs to be thrown into prison. Every penny that she has taken in bonuses must be paid back in full and with interest as she has fraudulently stolen them from the Post Office/ British Tax Payers!
@Gilan4983
@Gilan4983 4 ай бұрын
On a day when Lucy Letby’s appeal was dismissed Paula Vennels was the most hated woman in the UK. Neither showed contrition or remorse for their actions and both deserve long prison sentences
@velouris76
@velouris76 4 ай бұрын
And, just to think, she's also a vicar in the CofE.. The lawyer saying that she "preached compassion, but didn’t practice it" hit the nail on the head, vile person!!!
@robinmyman
@robinmyman 4 ай бұрын
Why didn’t successive Governments see that something was very wrong? Any firm of Accountants could have soon determined that the Horizon system reconciliation was flawed.
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 4 ай бұрын
Conservative governments?
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 4 ай бұрын
@@chrisoneill3999 Mostly. Rumours about problems with the Horizon system were first made public mid-2009 by Computer Weekly.
@johnlowe-tq6ey
@johnlowe-tq6ey 4 ай бұрын
Good point
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 4 ай бұрын
@@ftumschkas an IT professional of over 30 years the system would be the first place I would look. Many systems are not fit for purpose, especially large scale monoliths like Horizon, which was done on the cheap. I would demand test plans, logs, results, load test results, the whole lot, and speak to every person who worked on the development, on their own, outside the office. Sorted.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 4 ай бұрын
@@chrisoneill3999 The simple fact is, this scandal wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for then conservative MP James Arbuthnot. It was him who forced Post Office management to bring in independent forensic accountants then dragged them before a parliamentary select committee where it was proven beyond any doubt that Vennels & co had fitted the postmasters up.
@joanneramsden1514
@joanneramsden1514 4 ай бұрын
The bottom line is paula vennells has and will always protect the post office brand ,backed by government MPs
@losthope9909
@losthope9909 4 ай бұрын
She absolutely failed in that regard, damaged the brand irrevocably!
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 4 ай бұрын
She flat out lied to parliament.
@FBDAGM2023
@FBDAGM2023 4 ай бұрын
At 2.11 she’s interrupted, turns her head quickly in anger and THEN remembers to get back into ‘damaged apology mode’. True colours showing for a second. Getting so much money as a bonus for destroying ordinary lives is a shame, but it’s just another day in Tory Britain where those lucky enough to get onto the gravy train just p{%s on the rest of us every day we can’t pay the rent or food bills.
@tornagawn
@tornagawn 4 ай бұрын
She loved the Post Office over the staff, she put the organisations before people’s lives.
@raymondbruce7175
@raymondbruce7175 4 ай бұрын
The justice system must be utterly corrupt if she is not imprisoned and everyone else responsible.
@adelaidelawn
@adelaidelawn 4 ай бұрын
If we've learned anything from this, its that the justice system is corrupt
@spencerhulme1203
@spencerhulme1203 4 ай бұрын
All the sub postmasters were also sorry! But most of them were sent to prison regardless of pleas! Whiile Paulla and Co enjoyed sunny holidays off the proceed payments called Bonuses! Do not let out Justice system fail the victims they should be sent to prison for a minimum of 5 years!
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 4 ай бұрын
Broadly true, but by no means most of them. 230 sub postmasters were imprisoned out of more than 900 convictions. That said, it's 230 imprisonments, and 900 convictions, too many.
@MrOhdead
@MrOhdead 4 ай бұрын
She did not let them down, she threw them under the bus.
@stevenmoore3480
@stevenmoore3480 4 ай бұрын
The judges won't put one of their own in jail, these people are VENAL.
@internetpolification
@internetpolification 4 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to count up how many times she says “I don’t recall”, “I don’t remember” and (her favourite) “I imagine…….”
@constantius4654
@constantius4654 4 ай бұрын
Ten years in prison for her please.
@raymondcowey1041
@raymondcowey1041 4 ай бұрын
A prime example of someone promoted way beyond their capabilities. Lousy at the job, good at the denials and excuses.
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove 4 ай бұрын
is she gonna go to prison if she's sorry
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 4 ай бұрын
I damn well hope she goes to prison,what an absolute cow she is, that 3 million should be given to the people she lied about .🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@jacquelinewilson2279
@jacquelinewilson2279 3 ай бұрын
Take her money from her - that is what matters the most to her. Take away her bonuses, her wages and any earnings during her time as an incompetent and harmful manager. Crocodile tears - her "lack of recognition of the power imbalance" as she puts it, amounted to suicides, jail time and lives ruined.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 4 ай бұрын
She should be made to pay heavy compensation to the victims.
@WilliamjameswestWEST
@WilliamjameswestWEST 4 ай бұрын
LIAR.
@Bob-tq2jv
@Bob-tq2jv 4 ай бұрын
Paula is still crying all the way to the bank
@rossi6113
@rossi6113 3 ай бұрын
She didnt "let anyone down" at all. She deliberately and knowingly participated in corruption of the most appalling kind. She and her equally corrupt colleagues MUST answer for their crimes in a court of law.
@mikeellis4345
@mikeellis4345 4 ай бұрын
Vennells has more protection than a certain royal…
@nickbrian5141
@nickbrian5141 4 ай бұрын
When your lies come to light and you cry for yourself.
@Ronald-o9x
@Ronald-o9x 4 ай бұрын
Let's all start a public petition to make sure she faces criminal proceedings! Parliament must then enforce it, regardless of what the police do!!!
@stuartrichardson5699
@stuartrichardson5699 4 ай бұрын
Parliament can’t meet whilst it is prorogued withthe forth coming election
@1967SJH
@1967SJH 3 ай бұрын
In the case of martin Griffiths, a subpostmaster so hounded by the Post Office that he took his own life she has blood on her hands as surely as if she had thrown him in front of the bus herself. The whole incident, from start to finish is sickening and a complete affront to all norms of decency, honesty and respect.
@laphelps1
@laphelps1 4 ай бұрын
Horrible self serving woman of the cloth. I want to see her sit before a judge!
@timbeckett5062
@timbeckett5062 3 ай бұрын
Who's responsible for giving this woman the job in the first place?
@dominicjohn8954
@dominicjohn8954 4 ай бұрын
Her shame is what makes her cry
@amandamcauley
@amandamcauley 4 ай бұрын
I don't believe that it was shame, she's been found out and the tears are for herself.
@RosieHarp
@RosieHarp 4 ай бұрын
She has no conscience and it was a fake cry.
@dominicjohn8954
@dominicjohn8954 4 ай бұрын
@@amandamcauley That's actually what I meant. She's been found out in public and she feels shame. Absolutely those tears are for no-one else other than her
@dianecameron137
@dianecameron137 4 ай бұрын
she does not remember sending woman out of the room but then said she felt bad about it how can you feel bad about doing it and say you dont remember doing it
@DavidMyers-bl9gx
@DavidMyers-bl9gx 4 ай бұрын
Take her money its the only thing these people Feel. Prison. Then Back to a millionaire lifestyle. She stole her money her money from hard working people.
@wendio37
@wendio37 3 ай бұрын
I've never seen someone try so hard to gaslight victims of a criminal act.
@wildandbarefoot
@wildandbarefoot 4 ай бұрын
Poor woman did her best. She tried really hard to te best of her abilities. But the tears just wouldn't come ...
@harrycday6528
@harrycday6528 3 ай бұрын
Her and her board of the Post 0ffice should all be charged after this investigation.😡😡😡😡
@johnburns6422
@johnburns6422 4 ай бұрын
Has the mighty fallen ? No , People like her have powerful connections and those will fight every inch to protect and save her from Jail because she is one of Them, not so for the Post Office plebs .
@philippedley5073
@philippedley5073 4 ай бұрын
She is part of The Establishment they are the real power in the country.
@Christopher-e4s8j
@Christopher-e4s8j 4 ай бұрын
How right you are
@LordoftheFleet
@LordoftheFleet 4 ай бұрын
I greatly fear that you are right! On the other hand, if she doesn't get what she deserves, I also fear that there will be extremely serious riots.
@georgemorley1029
@georgemorley1029 4 ай бұрын
The information was brought *directly* to her by second sight but because it didn’t tell her what she wanted to hear, that horizon was working, but instead revealed that everything was true and horizon was at fault, she dismissed it. She *didn’t* ignore it, she dismissed it. This will be crucial at her criminal trial because to demonstrate mens rea (guilty mind, the knowledge of wrongdoing), being ignorant simply means that she didn’t know. Being dismissive means she did know and chose not to act.
@Mudhooks
@Mudhooks 4 ай бұрын
At any point did anyone look at, IF these people they were accusing of “stealing funds” where the alleged “stolen money” went? Did they ever once wonder “If they stole all that money” they had bough houses or cars or went on expensive holidays? Because if they had they would have discovered that no one was benefitting from the money they were accused of having stolen. And how would hundreds of Postmasters have decided to fleece the Post Office? The notion that all these innocent people either decided on their own or get together to steal money from post offices across the country? Fact… they wouldn’t and didn’t. But it was easier to believe that than actually properly investigate the facts that these people had no reason to steal the money, showed no signs of having large amounts of money come magically into their hands… It was easier to threaten and bully innocent Post Masters into pleading guilty and prosecuting them and those who refused to admit guilt to something they didn’t do and believe incompetent Post Office employees and contractors who didn’t do their jobs that “there was no glitch” and to pocket the proceeds of the actual victims’ own money.
@apl175
@apl175 3 ай бұрын
Is there a more hated public figure in Britain right now?
@tommac5411
@tommac5411 4 ай бұрын
You'd think with all the money she "earned" that she could have seen a dentist.
@Christopher-e4s8j
@Christopher-e4s8j 4 ай бұрын
😂
@PatriciaHose
@PatriciaHose 4 ай бұрын
Yes wot had she done with all her bonuses and pension she needs to paid it all back
@knicol46
@knicol46 4 ай бұрын
Amazing that all the directors and lawyers involved all suffer from selective amnesia only when evidence is found against them.
@paulreyland9671
@paulreyland9671 4 ай бұрын
She couldn’t tell the truth if her life depended on it. Lock her up & throw away the key. I would like to know what she did in her role as the CEO.
@keithm6117
@keithm6117 4 ай бұрын
Paula vennels gave noting to the PO when you consider the damage the brand has suffered, she spent nearly a decade sitting on her hands "laying low" pocketing the bonuses, the pension, that final payday, while innocent people suffered under Horizon, and she couldn't be bothered to raise a finger "not intrested".. So now the organisation will have to pay millions in compensation "thru the Taxpayer" because of her greed and ignorance.. Let's hope the prison sentence for the pain, suffering and expense caused is considerable.
@barryj388
@barryj388 4 ай бұрын
A cloud of denial? She should be in a prison.
@peterwragg5255
@peterwragg5255 4 ай бұрын
The most hated person in the UK, and rightly so
@tednash7210
@tednash7210 4 ай бұрын
No sympathy, fullest of condolences to the victims, both present and departed.
@fuckbankers
@fuckbankers 4 ай бұрын
She's sorry she got caught.
@seanoconnor9475
@seanoconnor9475 3 ай бұрын
As she is so sorry, will she hand over the £5000,000 plus she took from the post office for engineering the biggest miscarriage of justice in history?
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 4 ай бұрын
This woman has no scrupulous, ethics, humility and I dought even a reflection!
@BrysonCole-rl2rj
@BrysonCole-rl2rj 4 ай бұрын
I understand vampires have no reflection.
@JonDingle
@JonDingle 3 ай бұрын
Just as the subpostmasters faced criminal charges so should the managment of the PO involved in the witchhunt of subpostmasters face criminal charges!
@zaksalleh8693
@zaksalleh8693 4 ай бұрын
Send her to prison.
@brettlittle9913
@brettlittle9913 4 ай бұрын
Admitting that she loved the post office is the clincher,meaning she was prepared to do anything not to have her love damaged,
@WolfmanWoody
@WolfmanWoody 4 ай бұрын
The sheer lack of competence in running a national business like POL has been exemplified in the recent evidences given by POL's senior executives. How ever did they get their jobs.
@atlasgabriel5461
@atlasgabriel5461 4 ай бұрын
Crocodile tears and insincere apologies aren’t enough, there needs to be an unprecedented and debilitating personal financial penalty and a substantial prison sentence that cannot be commuted and that is not subject to parole.
@paulsimon6687
@paulsimon6687 3 ай бұрын
she loved the post office, says it all, put the post office before the lives of innocent people, shame on her
@christopherbriscoe8665
@christopherbriscoe8665 4 ай бұрын
"..I have answered honestly...". God knows she's lying through her teeth.
@Alex-xk7my
@Alex-xk7my 3 ай бұрын
She’s got to serve time for this surely? It would be a complete failure of our justice system if she escapes proper punishment, ‘sorry’ simply won’t suffice.
@PeteHill-j6b
@PeteHill-j6b 4 ай бұрын
Poor lass, she let people down without even knowing it. Bless.
@Tj-ot4jp
@Tj-ot4jp 3 ай бұрын
"I'm deeply sorry that I have been caught out"
@roberttaylor7373
@roberttaylor7373 4 ай бұрын
ARE THEY STILL TAKING RESERVATIONS AT THE TOWER OF LONDON?
@Mudhooks
@Mudhooks 4 ай бұрын
“Waited years for this…” They waited decades. And her crocodile tears mean nothing. As my mother used to say “If you were sorry you wouldn’t have done it.” She’s only sorry that she got caught in her lies, deceptions, ignoring and hiding facts, and responsible for the conviction innocent people… for the deaths of some of them. I hope she gets jail time.
@TheLampini
@TheLampini 4 ай бұрын
They STILL owe Jo £36,000 that they STOLE from her to "put right the shortfall"! No wonder it looked like she had lasers coming out of her eyes. So not THAT sorry - eh Paula?
@roberttaylor5880
@roberttaylor5880 4 ай бұрын
She cost people their lives, their homes, their family Jail for life and take away all her wealth and property
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 4 ай бұрын
No prison for people like this is why we are in the mess that we are in today 😔
@andrewrobinson1634
@andrewrobinson1634 4 ай бұрын
Her fake crying reminds me of Kyle Rittenhouse TBH
@errolbaptiste
@errolbaptiste 4 ай бұрын
Vennells got a serious grilling from the lawyers of subpostmasters.
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 4 ай бұрын
The first thing a new government should do is insist on criminal trials for the main players. Not just Vennells.
@Bluetoothedshark
@Bluetoothedshark 4 ай бұрын
The vicar despicable
@tokairic3925
@tokairic3925 3 ай бұрын
She was paid millions of pounds in pay and bonuses and completely failed to do her job properly and accept the responsibility of her position. She helped to cover up a horrendous injustice and criminalise hundreds of people unjustly. Just for the money. The Water Companies CEO's are guilty of similar dereliction of duty in the pursuit of personal wealth. It is blatantly untrue that in order to get suitable people in the job you have to pay huge wages. The people that recruitment mentality attracts are simply greedy and selfish - always looking for more. We see it time and time again, when the CEO fails, the company goes bankrupt and the person responsible (the CEO) walks away with a huge golden handshake straight into another CEO position - and repeat.
@ritab8663
@ritab8663 4 ай бұрын
Hollow… I let these people down
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