Boost Your Blade's Lifespan: Homemade Bandsaw Oiler

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Pask Makes

Pask Makes

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@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
The Dart BF//CM SALE: paskmakes.com/bfcm-sale-dart/ I was never sure if this was worthy of a full video on my main channel, let me know what you think. :)
@timdoyon1964
@timdoyon1964 Ай бұрын
Sure it is! Even if one doesn't need to oil a bandsaw blade, there is so much useful information here. I'm U.S. Navy veteran turned woodworker/maker, (in Oklahoma, USA), and I love watching your videos. I find you to be such an incredibly likable fellow, and the things I've watched you make are simply brilliant! Thanks as always! ☮
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
@@timdoyon1964 Thanks very much Tim! :)
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 Ай бұрын
Anything you make is worthy of posting.
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson Ай бұрын
I was just watching you rotate the tap by hand at [2:22] and an idea popped into my head. Please tell me what you think of it. - Make a bow with a _very_ loose string that is only permanently anchored to one end - Wrap the string two or three times around the shaft and connect to the other end of the bow. - Push down on the bow to make the string tighten snuggly around the shaft. - Pushing the bow down and forward will then rotate the shaft. - Releasing the downward pressure and pulling the bow back will loosen the string and bring it back to the starting point, ready to rotate the shaft again, much like a treadle lathe. Does that make sense? Does it sound like it would work?
@nicko198718
@nicko198718 Ай бұрын
Hey Neil, just an FYI most Bunnings keeps foam pads to put in trolleys for dogs. Might help your four legged mate to be a bit more compfy.
@bikermatz
@bikermatz Ай бұрын
You don't need a needlevalve! Just make the fillingscrew with a little slot in the threads and plug the airvent hole. Then you can adjust the dripping according to how much air you let in to the "reservoir", and you can keep the ballvalve as a shut off valve. Now you get the right amount of oil every time you open the ballvalve.
@Boosted98gsx
@Boosted98gsx Ай бұрын
assumes a perfectly sealed reservoir... Probably not happening with the threads on the top and bottom caps that the tube "seals" to.
@bikermatz
@bikermatz Ай бұрын
@@Boosted98gsx That reservoir is not under any pressure and if it's not leaking now then it will be fine with my solution.
@nickd698
@nickd698 Ай бұрын
@@bikermatz I agree, great solution
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
That's a great idea, Thanks very much! :)
@johnbarnwell400
@johnbarnwell400 Ай бұрын
Excellent idea ! Thanks !
@oh8wingman
@oh8wingman Ай бұрын
When you are making things with threads that come up to a shoulder, it's a good idea to cut a small relief at the base of the shoulder where the threads would meet it. That way, if you cannot thread right up to the shoulder, there will be a small clearance that will allow the shoulder to seat down on what you are screwing it into without using a washer like you did here. In addition, if you use a lathe tool that will cut a small rounded groove, you can get an O-ring to fit the groove to seal it off.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks for the ideas - makes perfect sense. :)
@chrism9502
@chrism9502 Ай бұрын
I am barely a woodworker, nowhere near metalworking, and the idea of modifying my own tools near unimaginable, but that bandsaw mods video is one of my favorites. There's something about hearing you discuss all these little problems and the hows and why of how you solve them that scratches that 'fixit' itch in my brain so very well. It's also why we like hearing about your mistakes and how you solved those too. Your meticulous attention to detail makes every solution seems excellent in the end, even if there is an element of brute forcing it in the middle 😂. Thanks as always
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks Chris! Glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate the mistakes! :)
@marcg2233
@marcg2233 Ай бұрын
if you want to foolproof the oiler look for an "Electric Solenoid Valve normally closed" if you put it between the needle valve and the oil reservoir and you wire it inline with the motor power(get one same voltage as your motor), the oiler will only flow when the motor is on. there might be a bit of drip when you shut it off, from the space between the two valves. another plus is once you get the flow right you never have to mess with it again.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
That would be awesome Marc - I'm not good with electrics but I'll look into it. Thank you. :)
@marcg2233
@marcg2233 Ай бұрын
​@@PaskMakes actually I just realized you're on 220-240v over there. just make sure you check with your electrician. I'm not sure if you'd have to wire it inline, or with a relay, but it should be doable.
@mikewilcox8866
@mikewilcox8866 Ай бұрын
Great job. Splitting the oil line inside the aluminum block was something I would not have thought of. Fantastic!
@plainnpretty
@plainnpretty Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t have thought of it either. but he’s pretty clever
@JarrodBush-Creator
@JarrodBush-Creator Ай бұрын
My only concern is the aluminum potentially grabbing the blade if it runs dry. Something like bronze or cast iron would probably be more suitable for the task.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks Mike! :)
@robertparker2420
@robertparker2420 Ай бұрын
Needle valve would be the best choice. A ball valve is usually best for full on or full off.
@zyamadeadborn1785
@zyamadeadborn1785 Ай бұрын
It's actually not "best full on / full off" but rather intended to be used that way. At least so I heard.
@mickey2pair
@mickey2pair Ай бұрын
I had one of those bandsaws for decades. I can really appreciate all of these modifications.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
They've definitely made a big difference. :)
@IR-nq4qv
@IR-nq4qv Ай бұрын
Good Job brother. I made a rudimentary oiler many years ago by using a hanging plastic rum bottle with the bottom cut out and a 1/4'' refrigerator water supply kit that comes with 12 feet of plastic tubing, compression fittings and a 1/4'' shut off valve. The drip line with an attached magnet is long enough to supply both my bandsaw and my drill press.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks! Sounds like you got a good solution. :)
@Vickie-Bligh
@Vickie-Bligh Ай бұрын
Oh my, yes, it's worthy. Honestly, Niel, anything you make is fascinating and worthy. I love infrastructure builds, client builds, home builds, what the heck & give it a go builds. You make it fun and interesting. Thanks
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks very much Vickie - glad you thought it was a worthy watch. :)
@steveforbes8287
@steveforbes8287 Ай бұрын
That is quite impressive. Well thought out and easy to make. I have the original ENCO American made saw from which that Chinese copy was modeled. I bought it in 1984 fully assembled from their show room. One of the best $75.00 USD investments that I ever made. I've only had to change blades and roller bearings when needed. I like your mods and will definitely consider them for my own saw. Thank you.
@luciflash
@luciflash Ай бұрын
You should use an electric valve that turns on/off with the saw. They're really cheap, and easy to install, with quick connects. You can use a needle valve to have better control of the flow, and just leave it on all the time.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
I'm definitely going to look into it. Thank you. :)
@philliparudolph9595
@philliparudolph9595 Ай бұрын
I find your builds mesmerizing. They are, for the most part, about things that I'll never need to build, but the technique and attention to detail is fascinating
@moncef0147
@moncef0147 Ай бұрын
You can find some tiny electric solenoid valves online, and hook them up to the saw power on switch, so that they only dispense oil when it's on. And to control the flow, instead of controlling it using the valve, control it using the air inlet hole, or put the solenoid valve after the needle valve you want to get.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 Ай бұрын
Next project -get rid of the trash feed spring and replace it with hydraulic cylinder. Pneumatic one can be modified(replace the o rings and the rest of it with ones that are resistant to oil,most of them already are but just in case),cheap mal 32 cylinder can be used.You need double acting single rod cylinder. Whole thing works by connecting two ports with 1/2" pipe(you can use copper or ptfe plastic air fittings ) and you put needle valve in middle .After that you make a bypass of said needle valve and in that bypass you put one way valve so you can lift a saw up freely but when it goes down oil needs to go trough needle valve which controls feed rate. Air bleeding and filling system with oil can be made easy by making your own connector with a cap on one of the ports. Most cheap air cylinders use G1/8" thread(AKA BSPP-parallell thread)R1/8" would be BSPT-tapered thread.
@davidmontgomery1016
@davidmontgomery1016 Ай бұрын
I've done a few of this type of project around my shop. Some were do-overs when the first try didn't work. When they work and make life in the shop easier it is so satisfying. I can spend all day and at the end I think "That was fun." Love those days.
@egbluesuede1220
@egbluesuede1220 Ай бұрын
I don't have a saw like this but I love tool mods and watching you problem solve always inspires me.
@davidrandall271
@davidrandall271 Ай бұрын
Awesome as usual sir. One tip for you, die nuts are designed to reclaim threads as they have a neutral or negative cutting edge. Split dies are used for cutting threads. Keep up the great and always highly skilled work that you share with us.
@rea59
@rea59 Ай бұрын
I have several marking knives, but the Dart is the 1st one I reach for every time. Great job on the Bandsaw!
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thank you and thanks for the support! :)
@nickblondeel5556
@nickblondeel5556 Ай бұрын
It is as mentioned and suggested below. A needle valve is more precise to give a nice and steady flow. And to aid in keeping the correct setting you could add a valve to the breather-hole you made. That way you dont need to find the correct position every time.
@hardyschlegel1048
@hardyschlegel1048 Ай бұрын
I would add felt wipers inside the block would saturate and control the flow. Just an idea. Excellent job and video, thanks for sharing!
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
That's a great idea - thank you! :)
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve Ай бұрын
Great idea and very nice work Neil! I can see you making modifications to this unit down the road. 👍👍
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks very much Steve! :)
@Sqwince23
@Sqwince23 Ай бұрын
You could put a cheap needle valve inline before the ball valve to control flow and use the ball valve as on/off.
@lint2023
@lint2023 Ай бұрын
And if that works (I think it will, also) switch to a solenoid valve to open/close with the saw switch.
@glennfelpel9785
@glennfelpel9785 Ай бұрын
Another good option for a thread sealant is Loctite Number 565 thread sealant. Easy to come by and a very good product. Thanks for all the good ideas and for the video.
@1230986666
@1230986666 Ай бұрын
You could wire a simple light that turns on when the oiler is open. It might help you remember to turn it off. Great video as always!
@brainsironically
@brainsironically Ай бұрын
I've done a couple of the mods from your other saw video and they are great. I don't know how you come up with these great ideas, but you have some awesome vids explaining how to put them altogether. Thanks!
@homemadetools
@homemadetools Ай бұрын
Great job on this oiler. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
@Oikolukuhirvi
@Oikolukuhirvi Ай бұрын
In machining school our saws were lubricated by a cutting fluid that was an emulsion of water and some other chemicals. It both cooled and lubricated the blade.
@fattony1218
@fattony1218 Ай бұрын
keep the ball valve in addition to the needle valve, you can adjust the needle valve and leave it in place, then use the ball valve for on/off control.
@Vikingwerk
@Vikingwerk Ай бұрын
Nice build! A needle valve is a better choice for controlling flow in this situation however. You can easily dial one in to drip every few seconds, much more control than a ball valve.
@bogaholzdoktor
@bogaholzdoktor Ай бұрын
wieder mal was anständiges gebaut, Hut ab, gute Arbeit, weiter so
@Whitefirekith
@Whitefirekith Ай бұрын
Another fantastic video and another great bandsaw modification!
@stellarpod
@stellarpod 11 күн бұрын
I spent my entire career (I'm now retired) working in engineering and sales for oil/gas ball valve manufacturers. Although I doubt it would be an issue in this low-pressure application, it's nonetheless noteworthy that ball valves, by their very nature, are not suited for throttling applications. They are intended to be used in on-off applications only. This is especially true of a floating ball valve (which this is), as it is designed to seal better when there is pressure applied to the upstream side of the closed ball, thereby *floating* it to the downstream seat and maintaining pressure against that seat. There is some designed preload on the valve's ball/seat interface, but it is not consistent in these types of high-volume produced, cheap brass/bronze valves common to hardware and box stores, so the sealing results of any two such ball valves may be different. A needle valve would be a more appropriate solution for the application. A globe valve or gate valve would also suffice. ALL THAT SAID, I'm truly impressed with your can-do manner and forthright approach to improvement of your processes. Carry on, sir! As always, thanks much for sharing. Steve
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Ай бұрын
Brilliant work, Neil! It turned out great! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@Blovvfish1
@Blovvfish1 Ай бұрын
Your projects are always so cool
@OLDBEAR123456
@OLDBEAR123456 Ай бұрын
You are very innovative. Quite the designer engineer. Very good. Use your needle valve to adjust the flow and leave it there. Use the ball valve to turn it on and off, full on full off. Use the needle valve for adjustment.
@bartekwapuski6651
@bartekwapuski6651 Ай бұрын
I think you could use that brass screw to control the flow, assuming there's no hole in the cap. You could then set the flow (by loosening the screw and letting air in) and use the valve to just shut off.
@ianvicedomini2648
@ianvicedomini2648 Ай бұрын
Brilliant mod and efficient. Great video Neil
@phillipwest2478
@phillipwest2478 Ай бұрын
I currently use a drip from a flexible nozzle on a large bottle. I also use soluble oil water mixture. I find I use a lot of coolant to cut my metal bars.
@larrynelson734
@larrynelson734 Ай бұрын
That's a great idea. Beautiful work. Looks great on the saw. 👍👍❤.have a great day...
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes Ай бұрын
Thanks Larry! :)
@michaelmounts1269
@michaelmounts1269 Ай бұрын
Outstanding! great use of common materials to engineer a useful tool...definitely worthy!
@guslarscheid3606
@guslarscheid3606 Ай бұрын
What about a solenoid that opens when you turn the saw on? Nice build
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 Ай бұрын
Came to comment the same thing. That's the way to make this from a nice mod to an amazing one.
@699hazard
@699hazard Ай бұрын
Great build Neil!
@illergiuliotti1896
@illergiuliotti1896 Ай бұрын
Compliments Mr Pask, very clear and important!
@tinkeringinthailand8147
@tinkeringinthailand8147 Ай бұрын
Brilliant job mate.
@glynprice3815
@glynprice3815 Ай бұрын
Excellent work Mr P
@jimmyrk3
@jimmyrk3 Ай бұрын
Great additions to the saw...
@unionse7en
@unionse7en Ай бұрын
nice. a needle valve has much finer adjustment... in the USA you can get these at lowed near the swamp cooler section
@graveneyshipright
@graveneyshipright Ай бұрын
Loverly little job! add that idea to the to do list.
@ruhtra-k
@ruhtra-k Ай бұрын
Very nice! Maybe use both valves? Needle valve to control flow, set and forget. Ball valve to open and close. Or maybe get fancy and use solenoid valve controlled by the saw on/off switch. No forgetting then.
@harrymoyes5069
@harrymoyes5069 Ай бұрын
Adding an automatic stop valve seems sensible. An in line needle valve also seems sensible, it would give you an adjustable flow rate, to allow for variations in the oil viscosity. Having the flow valve adjustment independent of the stop valve would avoid having to readjust the flow at every use.
@adrianwilliams763
@adrianwilliams763 Ай бұрын
It needs a small solenoid valve wired into the saw switch that opens when the power is applied and closes when the saw is turned off.
@rickardcarlsson4525
@rickardcarlsson4525 Ай бұрын
Nice mod! A thought, If you use two valves (after each other) you can have one as a fine tuner and the second as on/off.
@bigskymaker
@bigskymaker Ай бұрын
Nice video…always enjoy watching all of your videos.
@jamesa7506
@jamesa7506 Ай бұрын
The needle valve is the better choice. Well done in modifying your saw.
@rickypacheco
@rickypacheco Ай бұрын
Hey Neil, looks like a electromechanical valve would be a great option, It would open only when the saw is running. (won't help with the flow but I think you have that covered already.
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 Ай бұрын
You can put a solenoid valve on it to open when you turn on the power. That is what I'll probably do once I get a saw like that.
@WeeWillyWeiner
@WeeWillyWeiner Ай бұрын
Great idea, was thinking you can could have two taps, one with the speed setting that you don't touch and another you simply open fully to allow it to run. That way you can have your setting dialled in.
@trainman2860
@trainman2860 Ай бұрын
Just found your fantastic site. I have subscribed. Keep bringing on the great projects.❤
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 Ай бұрын
Seems like maybe you would benefit from a stop for the valve position or even indexed stops for different amount of flow.
@GuyInHisBasement
@GuyInHisBasement Ай бұрын
One change I would suggest would be to use both a needle valve and a ball valve. Use the needle to control the exact flow rate, and then you could use the ball valve to quickly turn it on/off :) EDIT: Bikermatz suggestion is much better, haha!
@CaptCha-p2q
@CaptCha-p2q Ай бұрын
Good idea; as always!
@andrewrussellmalcolm
@andrewrussellmalcolm Ай бұрын
Definitely worth it. Thanks!
@notsonominal
@notsonominal Ай бұрын
Nice work!
@pnelpe
@pnelpe Ай бұрын
Gracias por tus videos, te veo desde España
@davestinyworkshop
@davestinyworkshop Ай бұрын
very inventive, well done!
@HangarQueen
@HangarQueen Ай бұрын
Great idea and nice job. I'd like to take your idea and add an electrically-operated valve to it, to only come on when the blade motor is running. (But that will have to wait a long time, as I have another three-month hiatus upcoming. Adding it to my list for much later.)
@mststgt
@mststgt Ай бұрын
I would add another thumbscrew to the lower cap, which narrows the flow so that you can dial it in once and then just have to open and close the valve,
@Varangian_af_Scaniae
@Varangian_af_Scaniae Ай бұрын
I started watching CEE - Cutting Edge Engineering a few months back and after seeing the huge lathes Curtis has your look so cute. You both are on the Suncoast, you should get in contact. He could teach you how to do a great weld. You are not in the same field but both of you are meticulous in your work (why I'm subbed to you both) so there might be a nice exchange of subs between you too.
@michelleandalan
@michelleandalan Ай бұрын
Great video as usual. How about a small solenoid valve to automatically turn the oiler on when the saw is powered.
@Qoonutz
@Qoonutz Ай бұрын
Woah! Well done!
@DustinRogersinMO
@DustinRogersinMO Ай бұрын
Great job. Would it work to plug off the breather hole to stop the oil flow? Kind of like sealing the top of a straw and pulling it out of your drink. The liquid stays inside. That way you could dial in the flow rate and then use a separate valve to seal the breather as an OFF switch
@bertb842
@bertb842 Ай бұрын
great video. yes a video on bending jigs would be great!
@SparrowStockwell
@SparrowStockwell Ай бұрын
Clever chap!
@mopman9264
@mopman9264 Ай бұрын
it looks steampunk and that (to me) is the best part
@paulsomero
@paulsomero Ай бұрын
Needle valve or orifice in series with oiler. Ball valves suck for fine control. Leave the ball in place for coarse on/off. Think of the saw drop regulator cylinder with both ball and needle valve...
@Tailss1
@Tailss1 Ай бұрын
I would have used both a ball valve and a needle valve - the needle valve once adjusted you don't need to touch and the ball valve you turn off when not in use. You could also use a solenoid valve like the ones on chinese small engine carburetors to control fuel. Also thick felt for the wiper (cut up one of those felt disks you can buy to put under the legs of furniture) - it will get saturated and work better than rubber.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Ай бұрын
Great video, excellent info..
@onschbacher
@onschbacher Ай бұрын
What about a patch of felt that gets satureated by the Oil instead of the rubber on the aluminiumblock ?
@timothywhieldon1971
@timothywhieldon1971 Ай бұрын
an inline valve that opens when the power to the motor is turned on would be perfect.
@danfromnorth52
@danfromnorth52 Ай бұрын
I wonder if the manufacturer of the saw is aware of all your excellent improvements? Really cool mods.
@garagemonkeysan
@garagemonkeysan Ай бұрын
Gorgeous! ❤
@enricotempert
@enricotempert Ай бұрын
awesome little project. I love your content. always looking forward to your next video. so please keep them coming. but at several points in the video you are using this awesome ratchet tapwrench. where did you get it?? do you have a link??
@bheckel1
@bheckel1 Ай бұрын
should have 2 valves. 1 on off and 1 flow control. Added kool mist to my saw yrs ago. also added auto stop type control with aa limit switch kool mist on or off and e-stop. think it was like a hundered for all the parts. I got to make 6-8 brackets. I run emulsified oil 10-1 through, it is easy to clean off.
@lint2023
@lint2023 Ай бұрын
Is Kool Mist a venturi cooler? I have looked at those for years. Need sufficient air for them. I added a water soluble oil mister a long time ago and it works beautifully.
@bheckel1
@bheckel1 Ай бұрын
@@lint2023 there is a venturi but it is not the cooler. the venturi mixes the air and water. The cooling comes from the mas of air water mix flowing over the work. The real advantage in the home shop is only 1/100 of the actual oil going every where. 1/10 oil x 1/10 air.
@dhyanais
@dhyanais Ай бұрын
I think 2 valves would be nice. One to control the flow rate and one to switch it on and off.
@richardruiz3654
@richardruiz3654 Ай бұрын
Thanks so much
@jeffpagnutti
@jeffpagnutti Ай бұрын
Maybe dumb question, but wouldn't the aluminum lubricating block be better made out of brass? Wouldn't brass be less likely to gall, act as a natural bushing, and have better porosity?
@RossGirven
@RossGirven Ай бұрын
Did you think of undercutting the thread to slow clearance. That way the thread does not need to go all the way down the shaft.
@Snacks-91
@Snacks-91 Ай бұрын
If you are going to add a needle valve keep the ball valve too. This way you only need to adjust it once instead of every time.
@ddoherty5956
@ddoherty5956 Ай бұрын
Cool job 👍🇬🇧
@Rsama60
@Rsama60 Ай бұрын
A needle valve is the best choice.
@Lowbrow_Mthakathi
@Lowbrow_Mthakathi Ай бұрын
Such a well thought out and neat solution, btw I tried to download the free plans for the router plane but it doesn't seem to be working. Definitely not a complaint as it is free, just a heads up.
@swp466
@swp466 Ай бұрын
Have you noticed any issues with the upper blade wheel getting covered in oil as the freshly oiled blade moves around it?
@billbucktube
@billbucktube Ай бұрын
“Oils well that ends well‼️”
@bailey2829
@bailey2829 Ай бұрын
I wonder if you put some felt in the hole against the blade it will only dispense oil as it’s running, eliminating the need to turn it off. Kind of like a felt tip pen/marker.
@rsimiao
@rsimiao Ай бұрын
A calibrated orifice and solenoid will solve the problem about forgetting it open.
@peterbarlow8912
@peterbarlow8912 Ай бұрын
You know they make barbed insert plugs in brass that are made to seal in tubing. With no head of pressure clamps probably unnecessary.
@Goalsplus
@Goalsplus Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Just wondering, because I haven't got the mechanism right in my head, if the supply tank was mounted at 45 degrees if it would supply oil both horizontally and vertically.
@pauldean5458
@pauldean5458 Ай бұрын
Hey mate wondering if you ship to western Australia for the Dart
@paulwhite7475
@paulwhite7475 Ай бұрын
I did extensive work on a lexus swapped lotus esprit a few years back at a shop where I worked . All I can say is how horrified I was as to what a load of crap it was .
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