Sim Racing Wheels & Wheel Bases - Buyer's Guide

[@vvsj9792]

Love how there is a bunch of sim wheels in the background and then just a turbocharger on the right

[@boostedmedia]

Haha thats the centrifugal supercharger off my first project car that started this channel :)

[@lawerancelanham]

That's his "boosted" credentials 🤣 Now all you gotta do is make it spin with your rig..get that whine going n give yourself a cool down instead of a PC fan

[@raulmiguelramos]

oh that! I thought is the power supply of the thrustmaster base!

[@Ermz]

After upgrading from a T500RS to a DD1 just yesterday, I completely agree with you! The wheel didn't make me any quicker - it just made the process more fun and detailed. If anything it showcased the shortfalls in my stand, where the flex is essentially unbearable now.

[@thetalkingelement]

And this is why sim racing is a money pit hobby. Now you’ll spend 2k on a solid rig.

[@Ermz]

@@thetalkingelement Yes, and I'll love every moment of it!

[@thetalkingelement]

@@Ermz I’m all for it. I myself have spent way too much money on this hobby.

[@thetalkingelement]

@@Ermz what rig are you thinking of getting? I’ve got the trak racer tr8 mach2 I find it was the perfect bang for buck option.

[@Ermz]

@@thetalkingelement SimLab P1-X seems like the logical choice.

[@moose17m84]

Will: arm you with knowledge to make your own decision that meets your budget and needs Me: $10, looking for a top range direct drive wheel (Typed that before watching the video) great video as usual will

[@cylonred8902]

I do love the fact that you always show Bathurst in the videos - at least in the ones I have seen. I miss being able to watch Super V8 in the US.

[@LOWkenshin]

Thank you for this overview. I'm still using my 10 year Logitech MOMO steering wheel. I recently prioritized and upgraded the pedals to the load cell Thrustmaster T-LCM and what a massive difference it has made compared to the original potentiometer pedals. Also after considering my space I've also upgraded to the Next Level Wheel Stand DD and again a massive difference to the stability. I'm trying to keep in mind I'll eventually upgrade to a stronger wheel and wheel base hence why I went for the NLR Wheel Stand DD. I think the next upgrade that will make the mosts sense is updating my 8 year old PC even before upgrading the wheelbase/rim, so I can finally retire my Logitech MOMO wheel. Thank you for all the wonderful advice, it has definitely helped me be more strategic as I continue to upgrade my SIM racing experience. Love from Canada!

[@vrgaming7377]

Thank you for letting me know that I can be competitive with my G920, I only just got into sim racing and im loving it but I was worried that I would have to spend a fortune to be competitive

[@lespaul7261]

Great video and advice as always 👍 Sim racing on a budget for me using a thrustmaster t150 pro, belt/gear driven hybrid and great entry wheel.

[@insomnia976]

Dude! This video was excellent! Very Educational to say the least! I have the Logitech G920 and it's amazing! I had one of the very first Fantec wheels and it performed nice! You got me very interested in your DD2. I think I'm going with a DD motor and 12-15nm. I had a Thrust Master in the past but the are cheap. Again, Thank you!

[@jeroenschilderink7894]

Over a month i buy the Fanatec v2.5 with Porsche 918 rsr wheel ! (Come from a t300) ...This week i reseived the Fanatec v3 pedals with brake kit, this is so amazing haha ... So can't wait for my wheel later 😁

[@jjfreer]

my new fav youtuber! amazing OC videos AND he loves sim racing? WOAH!

[@sarahjohnson3407]

Hi Will, thanks for all the vids. I bought a Simucube 2 Pro based on your reviews. I do not regret it, even though I'm no faster than my G27. The load cell brake pedal had the most effect on my lap times, as you point out. Take care and stay safe

[@brianboucher4248]

Sarah... Coming back to sims after a LONG layoff (GPL, back in the day). Only going to get prob a G29. Can load cell be incorporated onto a G29, or not worth it on an entry-level wheel/pedals?

[@boostedmedia]

I’d recommend checking out my part 2 video in this series on pedals. That’ll answer this question in a lot of detail. Short answer, probably not worth it.

[@brianboucher4248]

@@boostedmedia Thanks for reply so quick!! Most of us are home because of Covid, so much more activity on You Tube, forums, etc... :)

[@boostedmedia]

All the best mate. I hope you’re safe and well.

[@sarahjohnson3407]

I wouldn't bother trying to upgrade G29 pedals. Fanatec CSL Elite pedals with load cell mod are not too expensive but are a vast improvement.

[@MarkFisch]

We need an updated video like this

[@narsus73]

Thanks for the excellent content, I'm using a G27 with a Wheel Stand Pro now for years. A couple more months, I be upgrading considerably. Your channel and content are making my choices more informed, and more difficult at the same time. Direct drive might be out of my price range, but the ClubSport 2.5 looks like an option.

[@boostedmedia]

The CSW is a great option. I loved mine. Still miss it’s simplicity sometimes.

[@olddogg60]

Great review Will. I went from, my Logitech wheel to a Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel Base V1.1 which was a major improvement but I then decided to buy a Fanatec ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5. I'm very happy with this wheel base and I do notice much more detail coming from the track surface. I did a couple of races in the rain and I found that my driving on a wet track was much improved immediately. The ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 has more torque output and as much as I want to wrestle with. 😃 In my humble opinion this wheel base is a great compromise between price and performance and it is in my budget range. I would be interested in your opinion of add-on displays. I have been looking at the Renovatio displays.

[@redtheftauto]

Club sport is a little too pricey for my intro gear. Good to know it's an improvement I've the Csl elite which I was gonna use for my first setup. Now if I get into I only where to move up to, thanks.

[@olddogg60]

@@redtheftauto I'm sure that you can do just as well with the Elite. Will says that it really isn't worth the difference but it is as close to direct drive wheel as I will get. 😊 Besides, I can use all the help I can get. 😉

[@brianboucher4248]

Love this review and thread of comments... I'm learning... :)

[@boostedmedia]

I always try to make it a community effort. The best info always comes from the diverse range of experience with in the comments. Much more valuable than just my opinions on their own.

[@TigerDavidson]

Are you going to be doing a video on chassis/rigs as well? Contrasting GT Omega, Playseat, etc would be super useful! Love these guides, thank you! You’re making the eventual process of upgrading from Xbox/ThrustTMX much less daunting.

[@boostedmedia]

I talked about rigs extensively in part 1 of this series. However I won’t review hardware I haven’t tried personally as that’s unprofessional in my opinion.

[@dasmoools606]

Beautiful video, aided me in getting myself a DD2 from Fanatec, so far enjoying it, my CSWv2.5 now feels flat and empty.. which weirded me out, the CSWV2.5 is imo the best belt driven wheel base you could ever hope to get and the closest to a DD than anything else, yet my DD2 made it feel empty and bleh D:

[@spectrum6634]

I bought my first setup recently, CSL DD 8nm R2R Pack. New Logitech = $360 cash, Second hand belt drive $550 cash and a new DD rig was only $900 and with Paypal's Pay in 4 its only $225 a fortnight... It just makes sense to go straight for it if you can afford it only downside is I have to wait 2 weeks for the wheel to be available.

[@kentsangkh]

I have recently upgraded from Fanatec csw2.5 to Simucube 2 Ultimate which improved my race pace by around 0.5s with better consistency too. In terms of feeling the difference between v2.5 and Simucube 2 is a little less than I expected. Maybe I expected too much about DD wheel. That's a big compliment for the v2.5 but Simucube 2 is something else. The speed and smoothness is second to none. I can react to situation before it goes really bad. It is so great to run lap after lap with consistent and competitive lap times. I don't think I can do that with a non-DD wheel. No regret about the upgrade at all.

[@boostedmedia]

It’s like with anything. That last 10-20% is where the money is.

[@ThatBeTheQuestion]

I love how when you're reading your script to the camera (which is what I'm assuming you're doing during these long monologues instead of saying everything off the top of your head), you tilt your head up and to the viewer's right very noticeably. Speaking of talking to the camera, it might be a worthy investment for you, in the interest of increasing production value, to get one of those teleprompters that you can attach to the end of a camera lens, like what LTT uses. That way you can look directly into the camera while reading off your script and the camera won't notice a difference. I don't know, that's just my two cents. I think those gadgets are kinda cool and very useful.

[@boostedmedia]

That’s exactly what I’m using. ;)

[@ThatBeTheQuestion]

@@boostedmedia oh! Lovely!

[@katersjamesracing7343]

Awesome content, Decided I’m moving to fanatec :)

[@michaelpollard1738]

Your series has come at the perfect time for me. As I keen racing fan/driver I would like a better experience to play PC2; I am on an Xbox one - do you think the G29 is a good start or is it worth investing a little more in the beginning? I will driving a reasonable amount per week and would love to transfer over to Pc eventually.

[@honeybadger1656]

Go for the g29. If you decide to play games on PC like acc,rf2,iracing then yes you could upgrade but the g29 is a great wheel. I race against people with fanatec and thrustmaster you name it and beat them. It's not the wheel its the driver. If you want to feel more immersed into the game and have the cash to back it up go for the club sport. It's a great wheel base and has a great selection of wheels to choose from.

[@Flynth17]

You need to test all existing wheels :) and future ones too, right now!!! :) Good video as always

[@boostedmedia]

Lol. Working on it ;)

[@Flynth17]

@@boostedmedia excuses, if you didn't test 2022 Thrustmaster lineup tomorrow, I'll dislike the video in 2022!!! Cheers :)

[@boostedmedia]

Lmao! Hassle Thrustmaster! I’ve been trying to contact them to no avail for 6 months.

[@Flynth17]

@@boostedmedia check your twitter :D

[@boostedmedia]

Haha just saw it. You’re a legend

[@kremlinfuize]

Great amount of information here, well done. Question though: is it just habit to have your head skewed to one side or was it due to reading script? One of those things for me that once J noticed I couldn't un-notice.

[@boostedmedia]

Probably just a habit. I’m reading off a teleprompter which isn’t something I have much experience with. Only done 3-4 videos with it before.

[@kremlinfuize]

@@boostedmedia all good, doing a great job. I'd imagine it's tough to get used to.

[@simianracing5500]

I'm hoping Fanatec gets production of the new and improved McLaren GT3 wheel going soon. I need more buttons than what the F1 Clubsport has, for ACC lol

[@AZEOforreal]

I just want a wheel that is smooth, feels really nice, and is really similar to real life. I have a budget of about $600 for what I'm looking for. I would like a set of pedals and a shifter as well in that budget

[@thingykd]

Yea i also am looking for something like this

[@AZEOforreal]

@@thingykd I know. I am mostly coming from irl drifting and want it to be pretty smooth but using a controller isn't too smooth LOL

[@jamesgreer2344]

Thrustmaster tx base with tlcm pedals and thrustmaster shifter and whatever rim u want

[@verveblack]

review g920 for the starter folk and playseat

[@superisaac3303]

love the content Will. Keep it up. :)

[@willsutton54]

Thomas Jordan is about the fastest in Pro Mazda and he has cheap pedal and wheel. I belive getting the car stopped at the right point in a must and that is where good pedals make a huge difference

[@gabicorlatan3377]

Nice useful video. But what about the wheel shape? Probably most of us do not race is all disciplines and don't buy more than one wheel.

[@jamestaylor8577]

just the video i needed to see

[@gregcline365]

I am just building my Rig. What piece of software should I start with?

[@buckyadkins6445]

Can you use the g920 Logitech wheel with the fanatec CSL petals

[@borl_tomas]

Thanks for your tips! Currently I am using G27 and I am thinking about OSW (based on SC1). I like the hardware was developed for years and verified by many sim racers, but on the other hand I am afraid of lack of software support. My budget is 1000€ and I would like to use it for more than 5 years. Please what is your recommendation?

[@danthomas7909]

Great video! I am new to sim racing, but I am really having a lot of fun. I purchased a G920 and a GT Omega rig but I am considering a Fanatic Club sport V2.5 bundle. You mentioned the importance of software. How does this relate to those who play primarily on a consoles?

[@Skippy-id9yt]

You can update firmware on your g920 via PC then plug back into your Xbox, I did this recently ( it didn't help with ACC ffb though lol )

[@jerrygeorge007]

Please give some insights on handbrakes and rally racing

[@boostedmedia]

Not a strong point for me.

[@tomsLDN]

Great video. I have a T300RS and was thinking to upgrade to a CSL Elite, but like a lot of the community was asking. We don’t actually know whether it will be compatible with PS5 as Fanatec themselves have said they don’t know. But I’m guessing based on this video you have a feeling they will? (Don’t worry not going to buy it on your recommendation haha)

[@boostedmedia]

I’d be surprised if they didn’t.

[@llTheGoose]

One thing I think would be pretty sweet would be to cover the history of direct drive, how it evolved into OSW's and then the insiration of that moving on to brand made products :)

[@llTheGoose]

Pretty sweet to have been mentioned, at least in passing*

[@boostedmedia]

Haha. I stay away from that in my videos generally because there’s a lot of very strong opinions around intellectual property.

[@llTheGoose]

@@boostedmedia oh damn, had no idea. Thanks for clearing it up!

[@everfasterracing6574]

Question: Does the Fanatec ClubSport Formula V2 rim work with the PS4 CSL Elite wheel base? The website kind of gives mixed signals. Thanks

[@mathewmcgrath1946]

This may be a silly question but if i wanted to use other pedals with my g29 would that work aslong as they are plugged in by usb or is it only the logitech pedals that work

[@boostedmedia]

You can use whatever pedals you want via USB.

[@mathewmcgrath1946]

@@boostedmedia thanks thats very helpfull im getting into sim racing so this is a great help

[@LearnBreeze]

is there one place where this entire series is posted? Tks

[@boostedmedia]

Here’s the playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLq1vJmvliZQMiZJpdp9BpxleYnR6n712_

[@lemonlidzgt8625]

Also any buy and sell forums you recommend.

[@Flynth17]

2nd hand - Facebook marketplace, some race SIM forums, eBay, for new, Amazon or local shops.

[@Kriss047]

Racedepartment has a market place as well.

[@jj4996]

Is the Simiucube 2 Pro Much better than DD1 or 2? Trying to build a new sim and Simiucube is hard to get now.

[@chuckystang]

logitech g920 is ALL you need. The end. It was plenty strong BUT the immersion just wasnt there so went DD1 with a real size rim and much more fun, not faster but more fun and immersive.

[@honeybadger1656]

I feel the same. Unfortunately money is tight and will be for a long time due to covid so I will stick to my g29 for a long time.

[@honeybadger1656]

I want to try make a DIY wheel to make it more comfortable and immersive. But the base of the g29 makes so much noise with the gears grinding it's so annoying.

[@jounaas]

I just bought csl elite v1,1 and formula v2 for xbox and im thinking about buying advanced paddles but i dont know that will they work in f1 2019?

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

I went to a G29 and went slower than with a controller. So I sold it and picked up a Fanatec CSL. My driver rating has dropped from A/S to B/S...it is more fun, but i’m still sorting it out. Seems like if a slide starts, it is much more difficult to save, so on high traction i’m slightly faster, low traction i’m slower. So far. Any setting tips?

[@joshb5719]

How long have you had it? It generally just takes time to get used to it. I was useless the first time I tried a game like dirt rally on a wheel. The best advice I have it set your rotation to around 540 for most racecars

[@jaimelvehansen868]

doesn't talk about the steelseries srw-s1 im using :/

[@TripleRotarRacing]

12k increase of subs in 2 months since this video was published 👏

[@michaelwood3825]

Great video. I tried to buy the csl elite f1 bundle, but strangely, Fanatec don't ship to NZ?? Very odd.

[@brennanstrugnell8597]

Pagnian Imports in Australia will ship fanatec stuff to NZ

[@michaelwood3825]

@@brennanstrugnell8597 legend! Thanks for sharing this. 👍

[@lemonlidzgt8625]

Selling Fanatec v3 pedals??

[@boostedmedia]

Not at the moment. Sorry.

[@AttilaTheHun333333]

„unless you are built like a brick shithouse“ 😂

[@C42ST3N]

The time where the really fast guys using entry level hardware is long gone. A few years back, that was true though.

[@richsnatt]

Can anyone help me out, I’m looking for a wheel and pedals set that is compatible with both PS5 and Xbox Series X.

[@jerrygeorge007]

Is there a point for people with gear driven basic wheels like Logitech G29 to join the discord community.

[@i2nupman]

What gear you use is not what would drive a person to join. Do you like to talk sim racing? Join. Would you like to get set-up tips? Join. Would you like driving and course tips/tricks? Join. Want to just B.S.? Join. Feel free to just lurk and read what is posted or contribute to conversations. The channel is for like-minded folks to gather and share not for people with certain gear.

[@boostedmedia]

Absolutely!

[@krissv3ctor512]

Hello

[@karosoranko1387]

Is it worth upgrading from 6+ year old Logitech DFGT which has seen some big usage lately to fanatec CSL elite if I don't have any special rigs (just mounting to my trusty old ikea table)

[@chowhar]

KaKeX I used a DFGT with Fanatec pedals. I've used G25, G27, and T500RS. Like he said upgrading the pedals is the most important. I'd be happy to keep a DFGT and just get load cell pedals like the new Thrustmaster ones or the Fanatec Elite. If you're on a budget that's what I would do.

[@karosoranko1387]

​@@chowhar I really don't like the crackling sound the wheelbase makes and the shift paddles are full arse+I think the wheel is starting to break because sometime the wheel just loses all FFB and it comes back after 0.5-1s. So probs gonna just get the CSL elite bundle and maybe the loadcell (even without it it's a huge upgrade)

[@honeybadger1656]

I don't really want the fancy fanatec or the simucube so I can get better. I just want to feel like I'm in a cockpit of a real race car. My g29 is great but I dont feel immersed into the game. Maybe it's because its attached to a desk. I also feel that the g29 wheel is too small.

[@anthonyrabon5369]

Cockpit helps a lot, a got a very budget friendly $200 cockpit with a nice seat included, reclining and all that. Also, you can mount a different rim to your g29. Look it up

[@honeybadger1656]

@@anthonyrabon5369 thanks bud I'll look it up!

[@kikiichiban4584]

The wheel in my real car can only be described as vague at best. Those 1970's Nissan starring boxes aren't known for their direct feel. Maybe I'll get away with a cheap wheel and stick to a sim with classic cars.

[@MntRprznt]

As always, great content. Inconvenient truth for some, but you need to have balls to to be frank about things.

[@touringolem9657]

So I've been using the Logitech dfgt since they were new, seq shifter starting to fail. Do I save up for 2 months and get Logitech and h shifter or save up for 6 and get thrustmaster tsxw sparco comp mod set plus h shifter?

[@roxss6538]

Well what did you choose?

[@touringolem9657]

@@roxss6538 lol, I saved 8 months and got the fanatec wrc bundle plus the loadcell peddle. Got it in an offer.

[@roxss6538]

@@touringolem9657 nice I hope you’re enjoying it!

[@jvidsnetwork5949]

Hi

[@kobikobijansen8767]

damn, nice video! But i cant stop laughing cause of 2 things. 1st: His left hand is defenitly glued to the table! 2nd: nearly every time his right hand rests on the table he stomps his foot! sorry but I cant xD ... no offense given!

[@miles5824]

If the wheel isn't that much important, can I have the fanatec wheel please...lol 😉

[@LennyFence]

Hey mate, love your content.. keep up the good work. By the way, are you ok? You are looking a bit skinny and pale. Hope you are well!

[@boostedmedia]

I’m fine mate. Night white lights in the studio make me look pale and I’m at my healthy weight :)

[@boostedmedia]

Bright^

[@LennyFence]

Boosted Media glad to hear that :)

[@SDK2006b]

A quick question - can I use a different set of pedals with my Logitech G920 wheels?

[@boostedmedia]

Yes provided they have a USB connection and your on a PC

[@akagodofheaven]

What game is it at 2:10 ?

[@boostedmedia]

IRacing

[@akagodofheaven]

@@boostedmedia thx

[@maxvanwageningen3875]

what wheel should i buy from fanatec? im looking for a wheel which has a good bang for ur buck but i dont know which 1 to buy. any tips maybe?

[@boostedmedia]

Budget? Formula or GT?

[@maxvanwageningen3875]

@@boostedmedia 500 dollars and i would like a formula style rim better i think.

[@boostedmedia]

I absolutely love my Formula V2.

[@maxvanwageningen3875]

@@boostedmedia thanks for the tip mate! great video by the way!!!

[@Ermz]

www.pagnianimports.com.au/fanatec-formula-carbon-rim.html This one is a touch lower end, but meets your budget more closely.

[@richardadler4427]

Didn’t know “built like a brick shit house” was also a saying in Australia

[@boostedmedia]

Lol! I actually haven’t heard anyone say it for about 30 years here.

[@Felix_Gaming04]

I will wait until i have enough money to buy a fanatec or something in that direction

[@gregcline365]

I am just building my Rig. What piece of software should I start with?