Turtle Beach VelocityOne Race - The Complete Review

[@boostedmedia]

Price correction. Moza R9 bundle with CS V2 wheel is $659USD + Shipping, taxes, import, etc.

[@FATHERNTIME]

Cool! Still wouldn't use Moza😂

[@WildWolfMax]

@@FATHERNTIME Then what do you recommend?

[@caseyjuco6346]

yea, but that​ price doesn't include pedals @FATHERNTIME

[@02bluehawk]

​@@FATHERNTIME why?? No issues with my r5

[@FATHERNTIME]

@@WildWolfMax I've used thrustmaster, then fanatec and simucube.

[@pattyrafter88]

Turtle beach diving into the sim market wasnt on my 2024 bingo card

[@KentRoads]

they already were... the VelocityOne flight sim

[@pattyrafter88]

Flight sims are for virgins

[@EarthIsFlat456]

​@@pattyrafter88 Go fly and do aerial combat in an F18 in DCS and any racing sim will feel like child's play.

[@MrCathal09]

​@@EarthIsFlat456you might be right but that doesn't make him wrong 😂

[@pattyrafter88]

@@EarthIsFlat456 that comment just proved my point

[@avikchatterjee007]

Not bad for a first attempt at DD. Hoping the subsequent updates sort out all the issues. More competition is good for everyone.

[@DAGATHire]

not convinced this is good competition tho. All the reviews im seeing have "at least you tried" vibes considering the price point. Its just not at the races. And all the fluff thrown in, isn't gonna fool the sim racing community.

[@AgentHeX_0007]

You would be blown away as a kid to get this as a present. Pedals seem to be intended to be used on a solid flat surface. A solid surface at least at the back where all the force transfers to when pressing them would stop a lot of the flex. Button box needs a little strut bar from the back of it to the wheel base to stop it flexing.

[@Skipperthekitty]

I'd be blown away if someone gave this to me even as an adult

[@meneo2075]

I like how they have the safety cover over the switch, but they really needed it for the start/ stop buttons.

[@AgentHeX_0007]

open it up, swap the wires over to put the power on/off to the covered switch instead.

[@DAGATHire]

@@AgentHeX_0007 ye that makes sense. Pay 650 to do some DIY to fix the problem. You're very smart

[@AgentHeX_0007]

@@DAGATHire its called modding, plenty of people do that to 1000's worth of kit.

[@DAGATHire]

@@AgentHeX_0007 modding refers to modifying something... What you are suggesting is buying a NEW thing and FIXING the new thing COS ITS NOT BUILT CORRECTLY Again you are very smart. Go you. keep up the good work.

[@KraanFanFanFanFan]

​@@DAGATHire💪🗿🤳

[@CrazyChiefXxX]

its crazy how far turtle beach has come since the early days of Xbox 360 and Ps3 with just their Headsets....

[@robertcarr4172]

been looking forward to this review. Thanks Will and Tom for getting it out so fast

[@Hustler9g]

Honestly looks solid for a first attempt at a reasonably priced DD. Lots of features for the price. I think a v2 with the little bugs worked out is something other entry level DD manufacturers need to look out for

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

One of the funniest reviews of this comes from OC Racing, where Turtle Beach said they'd send him a review unit but they never followed through with that so he had to buy the wheel in order to review it.

[@SebastianTheHunter]

I've ordered mine which I'll be getting on Sunday, as u said because they do sell in actual stores I was able to get a 15% discount so puts it down to £535 then when I go trade in my g920 I'll get another £90 for that, could get more but just want a quick sale, so for £445 I think I'm getting my moneys worth

[@SoyDavidYT]

For that price isn't that bad I guess

[@adamlangwell1963]

Where did you get your discount code from?

[@DemonAW]

how is it? im looking for a direct drive upgrade from my thrustmaster tsxw. Was going to either get this or the fanatec 8nm bundle

[@PopUpHeadlight]

@@DemonAWhow’s your tsxw? I’m thinking of getting it, I have a g920 right now but it’s broken, don’t know if I should get the tsxw or look else where

[@DemonAW]

@@PopUpHeadlight my tsxw was well worth it. its probably the best non direct drive option out there. if you can find a cheap one you and pick up a formula style rim its not a bad purchase at all. just upgraded to the logitech g pro and i miss my tsxw lol

[@BigSugarRC]

the button box limitations really seals the no-deal for me. will have to wait to see if they revise. thanks for the review! very detailed

[@117johnpar]

You can take down the brake and throttle cylinder just like the clutch does to stow it down. But you can pull the spring out of the throttle and put washers around the rod to reduce the throw distance, the wheel autocalibrates the 100% input point on every startup, so the physical change is all you need. You can likewise take the two rubber bushings out of the brake cell that compresses the load cell. I replaced one of the rubber bushings with a 2" spring, both for leverage and to get more pedal progression while still having pressure build.

[@117johnpar]

I do not get any flex or play at all with the collar. I do if I put it on backwards. But if its dead on with the top 3 balls aligned. Its rock solid to the base.

[@Jaymobe07]

wait....so this would make the load cell softer? Thats my one gripe coming from csl v1 load cell. It just feels rock hard compared to the older csl lc.

[@117johnpar]

@@Jaymobe07 Theres an aftermarket rubber for the CSL load cell that does a similar thing I did with this.

[@juniormandujano4845]

Hey Will. Love the content and the channel. I raced you in iracing the other day in the rain at the nordschleife. We were 2nd and 3rd for a 1/3 of the race. I geeked out seeing you on the grid. Awesome racing with you!

[@boostedmedia]

Haha must have been the one where I binned it on the final lap.

[@Edwins1984]

Always good to see a new contender on the marker! That being said, this product is not for me personnaly, feels to plasticy and all. Keep up the good work BM!

[@bananasnsushi]

I saw you racing at the Ring yesterday in some rainy GT3 action. I need to see these videos Will!

[@boostedmedia]

Working on it

[@_4ZY]

I got this on release day I think it's amazing I had no issues what's so ever on iracing plus I like the button box which is a cool feature which makes you feel like you in a car 😎

[@SwiftestScout]

Damn you got this one out FAST

[@boostedmedia]

Not much sleep this past few weeks. 😅 Everything always seems to all happen at once!

[@117johnpar]

The lack of standardization in the sim space has always blown my mind. Thats a huge selling point to the people in the community who actually buy substantial amount of hardware from these companies. Yet they gate this hardware compatibility off like powertool batteries, as if they expect that doing so will keep people within their own ecosystem.

[@paladingamerbrasil]

I got mine one the last day of the preorders and I couldnt be happier, I ended up paying 560 pounds for it buying directly from turtlebeach with a discount code. Coming from a g29, it feels like night and day. Not having to deal with Fanatecs shipping delays and Moza never restocking at least in the UK is a plus too.

[@lukefisher8417]

lol have fun.

[@vanishingpointracing.2199]

Abruzzi always have MOZA in stock. They are a UK seller.

[@damienwolfy6595]

Your big complaint, as far as i can tell, is software and a bit of flimsy design. As much as i understand the perspective of "its 600 dollars", as someone on a logitech g920 this thing looks like it would have been a DREAM first wheel, and a fair upgrade for me even now. Do i want something like a Moza r9? yes Do i have $659.00 PLUS another $45 for a desk clamp PLUS $159 for 2 pedals PLUS $39 for the clutch? oh yea and taxes on top? Not in the slightest. Whereas i can get all of that PLUS a screen and button box (although software limited, i see potential) for $650 in one nice, put together kit, that will probably be expandable in the future. As much as i can only speculate, i would love to see some genuinely low priced, high featured options like this become more common, and supporting this may be the way to start that trend.

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

I can't wait for a company to come out with an all metal baseplate for the pedals to help the flexing issue, as well as a sturdier bracket for the button box.

[@sebbstagg957]

Hey Will I would really really want to see a review about the Nuo Evo II, because it‘s developed by just one guy from scratch. Customer Service, Software, Building and Shipping by just ONE PERSON. I think that your channel would be an amazing platform for those kind of companys in sim racing, because they give all their passion into it. Thanks for all your work and reviews for us, so we can have a better overall look about the hardware market. Cheers 🎉

[@zorrothebug]

Oh yes, please! Even though shipping from Germany may take a while the Nuo Evo 2 are highly praised, even though the software especially for the brakes putting out raw numbers without knowing how much Nm your settings are at is discomforting me. And I know how meticulously Will is testing esp. the brakes I would love to hear his opinion on them.

[@AdmosSvg]

Cool, but we’re still waiting for ‘the most insane motion rig’ part 2 🤣 not going to buy it anyway, but want to see it in action.

[@boostedmedia]

I'd love to see it in action too! Its been sitting there for 2 months now while we wait for redesigned brackets so we can mount pedals and a base properly. Should be sorted soon.

[@Nick_Kearney]

There will be a few guys in the Boosted Media Discord that will be very interested in this review.

[@robertcarr4172]

nice mention on the TLCM pedals by Thrustmaster... my gosh those things should have had a replacement ages ago.

[@NoOne56488]

Yesterday i purchased my 1st full sim rig and up until a few days ago I never heard of all the popular brands for the rim racing world, but i know of TB(I never buy their headsets as they are cheap and nasty). So when people see something like this in a bricks and mortar shop they will reflect back on TB other products and they might move a decent amount of units. Pretty safe to say you will see these in JB and EB games etc. Also thanks to you and your videos I was able to settle on a good 1st time sim rig.

[@martinmurphy4852]

Just having them in stock and being able to ship in a timely manner will put them ahead of the game these days. It was pretty much the deciding factor in my decision to buy a GPro.

[@boostedmedia]

Or being able to walk into a store and buy it (or return it) over the counter.

[@martinmurphy4852]

Exactly. The Gpro arrived early at my local best buy (two days and around Christmas too) and being my first DD wheel I had no Idea if it was for me or not so a convenient return option was part of the decision also@@boostedmedia

[@fast_eddie3441]

Loving all this new stuff coming out. Whilst this TB unit doesn't appeal to me, it gives a good kick to the other manufacturers. Looking forward to seeing what else comes out this year before my 1k goes out of the bank. Thanks for the reviews they really help make a potential choice 👍

[@Steve30x]

I like that it comes with a button box but it's really just moving most of the buttons that would be on the wheel are moved to the button box. It's a cool idea that others should do too.

[@markbird5461]

Nice review. Glad theres more comp bit it does look rather plasticky and I'm still glad I spent an extra 200 pounds and bought a bundle fanatec v2 pedals with load cell and a csl dd with mclaren gt3 wheel and updated metal wheel hub. It just doesn't compare but I understand tirtle beach is going after a different price point and its use with a desk pc part time kinda use

[@mikeward369gamingnet]

I swapped my g920 for this wheel bundle which i got for 530 Argos uk price i mounted it to my diy rig a simple angled bracket held against it stops any flex really liking it wish H pattern shifter and f1 wheel will come soon as i c expansion ports good review

[@effinjamieTT]

The Huge Turtle Beach logo makes it look cheap. Nice IT crowd reference on your shirt 😄

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Yeeeees!!! Lets GoooOOOOoooo!!! Best review channel on earth bro! You should collab with Linus tech tips and show him how to set up their rig. That's gotta be a good video!

[@boostedmedia]

I dont think Linus would be interested in doing a collab with a tiny channel like this. It has absolutely zero benefit for them.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

@boostedmedia what if this comment gets enough likes? Or even just your reply does? If we can get 5k likes, would you maybe consider pitching the idea to them?

[@torbinzix1]

​@@GregoryShtevenshno, boosted in a completely different (higher) league than Linus. Boosted is humble and open to other points of view. And most importantly boosted isn't a shill. And respect to Gamer Nexus for calling out/ exposing LTT's inaccuracies and shilling, that's who you need to be following... Heck even jay2cents

[@GregoryShtevensh]

@torbinzix1 I've been watch Steve for years.Jay is ok.I like Jufes too and Tech yes City. But I'm not holding a grudge against LMG. I do agree nobody has the integrity you see with Will here at BM. Even in his talking points rather than a script style. That's not my thing though to carry drama. I just like good content. It's funny though I haven't watch LMG since I got into sim stuff last November. I forgot that the last thing I'd seen was that cringe "just kidding" video with his wife in it lol. But that's like 1 bad run out of years and years of good content from them. They have done a lot of good and lot often done a lot of bad. I guess that's just how I remember them. I dunno... maybe it wasn't a good idea. Hadn't given it much thought past "I'd like to see that"

[@torbinzix1]

@@GregoryShtevensh for sure I get what you say 👌

[@SwigerQ86]

looks pretty good, I'm glad another company sees the opportunity in sim racing and tried a hand. idk why, every time i see the tire wear and temp on the screen i think simcade. idk what racing game that is but take it off, my first fanatec wheel adapter snapped and the pedals had some crappy little springs

[@JetJuice]

I think as someone trying to buy a sim setup with all these features but doesn't have thousands of dollars to spend, this is a great value. In my opinion, i might buy one 😂

[@englishcanadian9739]

for the money seems just right special if you get bored of sim racing not a lot of money spent

[@bfife22]

I have their Flight Sim Yoke, and this wheel seems to have the same philosophy (features over build quality), but not as well executed as that is. The throttle quadrant attachment is much sturdier than the button box is. Plus all the inputs can be mapped even on Xbox (to be fair, it might only just be MSFS that allows this on Xbox). The Engine Start button functionality is a huge head scratcher

[@nickhowarthracing]

I feel like the conclusion might be a bit too harsh. Personally, I found the experience of this setup to be pretty awesome with just a few tweaks and changes in settings. I've tried out a bunch of DD wheels, and for the price, this setup is unreal. Seriously, it's like comparing night and day to any belt-driven wheel - they're not even in the same ballpark. Plus, there have already been a few firmware updates, and I bet there'll be more to come soon with more accessories etc.

[@boostedmedia]

All valid points, but the fact remains that the CSL DD provides a superior FFB experience for similar $. If it wasn’t for that it would be a lot easier to recommend.

[@nickhowarthracing]

Yeah I get your point, exciting to see what they update moving forwards. You can’t get the CSL base with cell loaded pedals, digital display, control unit though. I just think as a bundle for the prices it’s fantastic ! Unmatched in the current market. Plus they offered 10% off on launch so you get the slot for £560 from £640

[@DaddyCRUDE]

Great review! 💯🙏🏽 I've got a Logitech G920 that I mainly use for driver training purposes and a Thrustmaster setup I use for a bit of a better experience with various racing games. I'm actually interested in the VelocityOne wheel as an upgrade from the G920! I'm very curious as to if they will release a h-pattern to plug into one of those expansion ports. Fingers crossed. 🤞🏾

[@TobySutton]

Completely agree, would love a step up from the g920, but I do use the H shifter a lot at the moment, I may just wait it out🤔

[@DaddyCRUDE]

@@TobySutton I think I'll wait for a h-pattern as well if it does release. I love heel-toe down shifting and clutch kicking, shfiting through the gears, etc. It's such a fun experience on a sim setup. Paddle shifting can be fun as well, but nowhere near as engaging as h-pattern! 💯🙏🏽

[@perjessen2748]

MOZA is sold here in Denmark in Retail.

[@albey1816]

Moza is also sold here in New Zealand in Retail outlets.

[@terrylee4084]

OK. Guys Here is an update on my Wheel. I heard on someones video I think, That a guy had taken his apart and fixed it. Another that when they took it apart the screws around the motor were stripped out. So, I took mine apart. There is some poor workmanship in there. OK. The motor is mounted with 4 small screws and 4 big screws. All were loose, Real loose! After 60 hours of use. I had no warranty So I had nothing to lose. I got all that tite, put it back together and the servo part works Great again now. The wheel on the other hand the top shifters still stick with every pull. I have another wheel coming that seller said does not stick. I will believe it only when I recieve and use it a while.

[@Smokabis]

Even though it's not a product that I'd be interested in buying, I was still excited for your review 😂. As I expected, the wheel bundle is disappointing. For what it sells for here in Australia at $1299.00, it's a bit of a joke. Fanatec 8nm CSL DD McLaren bundle with Elite V2 pedals cost's $1360.65, not even 5% more. Not even the same league, is it? Thanks for your legendary content as always!

[@boostedmedia]

Yep. That’s the hangup for me too. It’s. It’s not in the same league as the McLaren bundle which is very close in price.

[@terrylee4084]

I have one. They are Trash. The force feedback feels so great, until the drive shaft starts breaking loose. then it's total trash can material. For me the was at 60 hours of use. Also from the factory the padel shifters stick on both sides. So you have to dri automatic. DO NOT LET ANYONE TELL YOU THESE ARE WORTH BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@svenjonsson4275]

Shifting turning on/off from Start/stop to the covered switch should be Turtle Beaches first priority when making next version.

[@nmode7420]

Cool to see turtle beach make an entry into the racing market. Looks like they've missed the mark here though, especially for PC sim racers. Will probably still be an ok purchase for xbox users on forza or something. I also think comparing it to the Fanatec lineup is not exactly fair though. The direct competitor for this would have to be the Logitech G-Pro DD wheel, and so comparisons against that would have been nice to see.

[@The_-_Futurist24]

Issue I feel was overlooked - you can't butt the pedal set against a wall (as I normally do if not mounted in a rig) they put the cable inputs coming out the back, rather than the side.. that's a bit dealbreaker for me usually on 'cheaper' sets, but given you said it doesn't seem to slide using their rubber pads, probably not the worst thing in the world.

[@boostedmedia]

That’s a very good point! Could put a small block of wood or something behind it to just allow enough room for the cables I suppose.

[@The_-_Futurist24]

@@boostedmedia yeah I guess there are workarounds! We always find them for the love of simracing haha

[@marknewhall9631]

I bought one and have been using it with Forza 5 in standard set up on Xbox. Is there a place we can go and get suggestions for each Xbox game on how to configure the Velocity One Race?

[@marknewhall9631]

I am also looking for configuration for F1 2023…

[@ACasualRacer]

Will, from your testing is the movement in the quick release or the shaft? From the Velocity One base I tested, the QR was more solid while the shaft had noticeable FFB affecting play. I'm partly trying to figure out if there is a standard quality issue, or if I happened to get a lower quality/defective unit from them.

[@boostedmedia]

In our case it seemed to be primarily play in the interface between the stem on the base and the sleeve on the wheel side. Same as with the metal Fanatec QR1. The wheel itself naturally ahs some flex due to being plastic.

[@ACasualRacer]

@@boostedmedia interesting, perhaps the manufacturing tolerances are not very consistent.

[@boostedmedia]

Yep I’d say so. Exactly the same with the QR1. Plenty of people swear their setup has “zero flex”. I’ve tested hundreds of combos of bases and wheels and not one of them ever had zero flex but it did vary.

[@boostedmedia]

Looking at your video now (nice job BTW). My base definetly doesn't have anything like the shaft flex that yours does judging from your video.

[@ACasualRacer]

@@boostedmedia thanks for confirming, yeah generally it was not a positive experience at all.

[@Atligamer]

Wow, I really enjoyed this review

[@bartonez123]

Wait for the big discounts. Anything in bricks and mortar gets some big discounts if you're willing to look around and wait. Thrustmaster I've seen at 40% off, Logitech 50% off, so I'd expect something similar down the line.

[@neilbezuidenhout9284]

U just got the button box guy fired😂

[@Username_Invalid]

It does look quite sad lol

[@deviatefishy]

The graphic at 2:47 says 'VolocityOne'.

[@GTdriver81]

Very decent first attempt into the sim market. However, if I were to need Xbox compatability I'd wait for the 3.9mn moza r3. A mature ecosystem now with scope for a bunch of peripheral add ons and/or base upgrades as the wheel has been tested to work on higher ff bases. I do expect the tb ecosystem to grow eventually, but I mostly leave others be the early adopters and do the beta testing.

[@YourDailyR]

Problem is, Moza is saying that for 1.5 years now. I believe this project has failed. Why has MS licensed turtle beach but not Moza?

[@GTdriver81]

@@YourDailyR they only announced the r3 6 months ago. The delay is on Microsofts end, moza has proven proven to pump out units and new products quickly. Production is not an issue for moza.

[@YourDailyR]

@@GTdriver81 I got it but TB announced theirs, what? 2 months ago? How can they get licensed and Moza not?

[@GTdriver81]

@@YourDailyR that's a question for Microsoft. Moza doesn't have production issues, they just released a sequential handbrake and trucking wheel, also no r5, r9, r12 , r16 or r21's on backorder.

[@YourDailyR]

@@GTdriver81 do you think MS really cares? Moza wants(or no) to sell. How can you make all marketing counting on someone else’s dependency? I’ve emailed the and they never mentioned MS in the equation. I never seen anything in any site regarding MS being the problem.

[@AntonBazzhenov]

These camera's angles at the beginning made the wheel to look the half size of your body. 😮

[@caseyjuco6346]

dumb question. how would you compare the force feedback of the turtlebeach vs moza r5 or even fanatec with 5nm ff?

[@Username_Invalid]

Same question I had. I feel like higher quality less power is better than more sloppy power. I have r9 btw, love it.

[@maxsteal1982]

@boostedmedia thank you for the review, you saved a lot of newbie simmers from either wasting money or understanding what they are getting into if they purchase this wheel. If this wheel did not have direct drive with 7 Nm torque, then I would view it as strictly a toy for kids or non serious sim drivers.

[@hanfo420]

Be aware that Turtle Beach always lacks behind in Firmware support and with the VelocityOne Yoke they didn’t even include all features since the firmware wasn’t done!!

[@kszytok]

Having in mind the product is directed to more of a casual users less settings is not bad idea I remember first ffb wheel and amount of settings that I haven't got a clue what they for was overwhelming .

[@CrossfireGamingNetwork]

I like the esthetic of it, but I'm a little deterred because of possible quality issue and the missing emersion. I am going to stick to the r5 bundle. I may revisit it down the road though

[@Substance2020]

Bonkers"off" button position and crazy flex. It's like they stopped the good design team and told them they had to add some stupid crap just so the next version would have some improvements. Either that or the designers were about to change company and decided to throw in a design flaw just for giggles. Craziness.

[@ArmyVetG]

Nice job

[@flipcoin6301]

Feels odd to see a Turtle Beach wheel. I still remember their awesome sound cards and trying to get DOS drivers to load in memory.

[@lukefisher8417]

Their next version I’ll be keeping an eye out because if they’re smart, they’ll learn from this product and tweak a few things.

[@robertcarr4172]

You did not touch on Xbox. Lot of customers have been waiting for the Moza R3 and its been a no show for a long time. This wheel depending on country could be a better option ( I know here in South Africa, Turtlebeach is everywhere) , but would have really liked if you could do a review on how it works on xbox

[@spacexe1710]

Im not familiar with Turtlebeach, will there be a Playstation version of this?

[@CMBRacing59]

Hey man! Could you review MVHstudios wheels in the future?

[@HeyItsEmilyLove]

This is disappointing. I really wanted to like it. I can’t wait to upgrade from my super glitchy, sometimes stream ruining lol, Logitech G923. With all the downfalls of this though I think I’ll still have to go with the Fanatec ClubSport V3 pedals and wait for a DD wheel upgrade until later. That button box and screen, with a DD and LC brake were very tempting though before the review. Ya hate to see it. Thank you for the video

[@gpoleur]

World class review

[@richaudiosasmr8216]

Are the brake pedals SUPER HARD for anyone else? Any game I have to slam the brakes. I ended up bending the cord because i was slamming them so hard so get full braking, and changing the sensitivity does nothing!

[@boostedmedia]

Set the sensitivity to 100%. The other two settings are ridiculous. But yes if it’s your first time using a load cell brake it will take some getting used to.

[@gonzo3915]

Hi guys, this was the only place i could think to ask the following question, has Barry Rowland at Sim Racing Garage been sick?, no Videos for months. Big fan of both channels.

[@boostedmedia]

No he’s fine. He’s just doing other stuff now. Lost interest in sim racing.

[@Username_Invalid]

He lives about 25 minutes from me in Virginia. He still posts sim racing and flight stuff all the time on Craigslist.

[@02bluehawk]

Glad to see you didnt see the same issues as Oscar with OCRacing did with pedals not picking up everytime

[@boostedmedia]

Yep. That was bad! Would be good to know if the firmware update fixed it for him.

[@MotoMedicine904]

I ordered the MOZA R5 bundle a couple weeks before this came out. Was worried I made a mistake not waiting…Not anymore.

[@racdude01]

The fact you get DD and load cell pedals is incredible value at this price. The button box is kinda just an extra gimmick so it being the weakest part of the bundle isn’t a big deal for me as the rest of the bundle is already great value. I’m a little disappointed though that u frequently compared to the Moza R9 which is both a much more expensive and stronger wheel but never once mentioned the R5 as while it is weaker it’s much closer in price for the same stuff so I feel it should’ve atleast been mentioned. I expects wheels like the R9, CSL DD and Cammus 10 to preform better since they r both higher priced and stronger wheels. Comparing it to the R5 would really put into perspective what sort of value for money you are getting. If a 7.2nm wheel can’t out perform a similarly priced 5nm wheel then it’s really only a good value for Xbox players who don’t want a fanatec. Whereas if it does clearly out perform the R5 than it truly is a great package for the price

[@Casketman20]

Turtle Beach jumping into the DD market, not expected but there are some nice things on this wheel that I like but as I would expect, TB doing TB things, nice idea(s)/attempt but poor execution. I've always ranked TB below Logitech but just above Mad Catz. I'd believe TB had their eyes on the Xbox user who plays Forza. Not a PC player on iRacing or ACC. Sure, newer people to the PC racing scene might jump on this because of price and how easy it is to get (in store like Gamestop rather than waiting for shipping) but this current first gen wheel is not going to challenge any of the normal PC racing players like Fanatec, Moza and others. It's a cheap starter DD wheel targeted at console players and maybe the first time PC people who just moved over from console. I honestly don't expect this wheel to get any better than it is currently. Will seems to be kinda out of his element here with this one. Kinda like a guy that normally reviews $150k sport cars but today has to review a $20k economy car.

[@boostedmedia]

The issue for me is there are objectively better alternatives for a similar price. Simple as that. As I said at the start of the video I’m sure it will sell well in retail stores due to it being quite feature rich compared to the alternatives you find in retail stores. I think they know exactly who they’re targeting and you’re spot on.

[@SuperstarQ76]

so basically, in australia, your better off buying the fanatec csl DD bundle, and chuck in the load cell brake and table stand, and it would still be cheaper and better overall.

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

Might be a good upgrade from a T300RS

[@LorenzoClara97]

I'm also thinking about that.. but they are still missing a good H/sequential shifter for console use + handbrake So why offering a decent 3 pedal set with clutch.. Maybe the fanatec 500€ bundle is still the better deal

[@TheManbearpigsteve]

gonna be sad when turtle beach releases new wheels and hand brakes and shifters before logitech does lol i never should of bought the g pro

[@jahshjahsh2002]

The Logitech DD is allegedly the best FFB in the market

[@artemgula9504]

Wish they had a gear shifter

[@tubzvermeulen]

Thanks for the video

[@StewardRuss]

Can Turtle Beach please tell me why the circle in the centre isnt a screen? Could easily show which gear you on or your revs. Missed opportunity in my opinion

[@Haulinbassracing]

Cost per unit

[@simracingonboards]

Great starter set !

[@Z06Boss23]

seems like the pedals flex more the way you have it hanging over the mounting area. Still not confidence inspiring either way. great review as always

[@tarushdei]

This was clearly built as a console device that's PC-compatible. Not the other way around like other options. For a first step into sim racing it's incredible value for money as a complete package. As an upgrade from another entry level device, I don't think it's worth it. Lots of little, clever innovations throughout the product that I hope other companies copy (the adjustable brake spacing!), but not enough to make it appealing to people on PC. Lots of other options that do everything better than this for marginally more money. I'm interested to set longevity of the device given their company's infamous reputation, and I'm curious to see how this effects pricing at all levels of the market. This is far more stuff for far less than anyone else.

[@jahshjahsh2002]

I heard you mention a place to plug in a future handbrake, do you know if there is an upcoming manual gear shifter as well? Feels natural and Logitecal since they have a clutch pedal. A complete bundle would be so compelling (after they improve their FFB of course).

[@ninjacats200]

I currently have a Logitech G923 PlayStation edition. I’ve been looking at upgrading to a direct drive wheel. But I want one that can work on PlayStation so I can play GT7. Been looking at both Fan and Moza. Probably end up with something from them.

[@kevinjohnson9579]

So we should expect Dr D to get one of these to drive his lambo around?!

[@FoxFourX1]

As of June 3, Best Buy reduced the price from $649 to $549

[@RomainFleuryWhatever]

It seems that logitech could do something good with a 500US G-Standard 5-6NM DD bundle, with a couple of wheels available (gt/f1, drift) and a new shifter and handbrake 👏

[@mtbboy1993]

Great review. This kit is a joke. So far Moza seems like the best bang for the buck right now. and I can buy it in some electronics online retailers in Norway. I might buy that instead. I was skeptic when I was told about these. Nothing of what I saw there was as surprise to me. Is the wheel base at least mounted via metal or is it mounted to plastic? Or is the plastic just a cover there? At the bottom it looked like it was brass threads. is that the case, are those in the plastic or mounted to the Alu bracket the servo motor is attached to? If it's secured to the plastic this is another failure point.

[@bry77008]

i got this wheel the day it came out mainly because it's the best DD for xbox. i've had it for a week now and i really like it but i would like to try the moza r3 if it comes out soon

[@ViperJon]

Wrong. The BEST DD wheel for Xbox is the Logitech Pro but it's not cheap. Highest quality around and in stock not like Fanatec junk or Moza's R3 which is a toy that you can't buy.

[@AnekoGT]

They just need to improve a lot of stuff on this wheel and let you use these buttons as you want

[@OGFlake]

the shaft moves stay away from this wheel

[@sethdale4721]

Man speaking of rotating mass dampening a wheel base, my new asetek button box and round wheel totally deadened my TK wheelbase!!! Bummed me out a little, but it may force me to go on up to the invicta to get what I want out of it eventually haha. I was surprised to find this.. my aliexpress wheel (piece of junk) didn’t do that, of course a basic round wheel with no button box doesn’t do that, and the stock formula wheel doesn’t do that.

[@boostedmedia]

That’s interesting because sure I didn’t find it had a massive impact on our La Prima base. What strength are you running your base at?

[@sethdale4721]

I run it at 12nm. I’ve only really used that wheel in any amount that matters on dirt rally 2.0, it just seems a lot less punchy to me if that makes any sense. Strength wise, there’s plenty still.

[@DarrenBoxhall]

Can't believe no shifter. Deal breaker

[@Jaymobe07]

Which firmware are you using? I noticed at first as you said, it felt muted but i felt a change after an update. But i also raised the strength up slightly.

[@b9bot148]

All the offerings from Moza and Fanetec are made of metal, not plastic. Especially for the pedal sets. I think the pedal tray after time will crack and break eventually because of that plastic flexing back and forth. That bottom piece should have been made out of metal to mount those pedals on and eliminate the flex all together.

[@blackacidevll5826]

I wonder if H patter shifter will come out eventually, I'd like to say yes since it looks like they'll have different wheel rims ?

[@boziewz6125]

If it was 15 years ago, i think i would be more excited about this. As a company, i feel they have somewhat let themselves go in terms of build quantity, to the point id say the started out as the benchmark and became a meme for cheap. Unfortunately, while i really want one, i expect in 6 months there will be a few being dumped in the bin due to breaking.

[@sirfairplay9153]

Turtle Beach make great stuff, honestly, it's not garbage at all

[@jensleck547]

I think all Consoleros ask herself: did the Dashboard works on XBox(Series)?! Not Setup, i mean Racinginfos like RPM, Speed, Fuel, Gear...i heard it should work on Forza and MS had open SDK from XBox for this to third Delevoper🤔