Boox Fall 2024 Line Up of E-Ink Devices: Palma 2, Note Air 4C, and Note Max!

[@DeedTech]

Boox responded on Twitter that the Note Max won't have a front light.

[@5idi]

I've been bugging Boox in every way I could find, KZbin comments, their customer support and all, to allow users an option to turn off BSR. Hopefully I'm not the only one and they'll listen...

[@nym49]

I'd wish they'd get rid of the camera. That way it would be possible to bring to a spa or sauna where phones/cameras usually are forbidden. Let's be honest, the camera is just a gimmick and not really usable anyways on the Palma.

[@EmilyCadotPokadot]

I can't wait for your reviews on these devices!

[@MazerTime]

LIKE LITTERALLY TWO WEEKS AGO I WAS ABOUT TO IMPULSE BUY NOTE AIR 3C, then GLADLY stopped myself thinking it might be better to wait to the next one. I'm so happy about those news. waiting impatiently for a review

[@JMaxwell1000]

Give it another month and Boox will have a newer version of ALL their devices. They produce more devices per year than Canon once did cameras.

[@SteamyPMcGee]

Voja, you're so excited for the Note Max you're visibly vibrating!

[@karlmunford7000]

Thats because the washing machine he is sitting on has just started its spin cycle!

[@SteamyPMcGee]

Its been way too long since they released the nova air C, they're overdue. I'm waiting for the nova air refresh, I want that 7/7.8" with pen, ideally B&W.

[@Sil3nC4]

I am a bit disappointed they updated the NA4C before the NA4. Despite my personal preference, the NA4 with 300ppi and the spec bump of the NA4C would have provided for a bigger improvement to its predecessor than the NA4C. Also, it's about time they made BSR user-configurable. It's taking eInks biggest advantage against OLED/LCD based devices away.

[@XZ_94]

The specifications for the Note Max have been released: it features a Carta 1300 display with 300 ppi, no front light but includes BSR technology, Snapdragon 855 CPU, 6GB RAM, 128GB ROM, Android 13, and a 3700mAh battery (which I find disappointing). The device dimensions are 288 x 243 x 4.6mm, and it weighs 615g (considering the large body and small battery, it feels overly heavy).

[@XZ_94]

I forgot to mention that the shipping start date is around December 20. I’m not sure if they’ll start pre-orders earlier.

[@nanabai329]

​@@XZ_94thank you fir the shipping info 😊 I saw the other details on reddit I'm not too familiar with the battery sizes in 13 in eink devices but I was going to get the 10.3 go or the quarderno a4 gen 2 and thought I'll wait for this note max as it's 300 ppi and 1300 carta interests me b4 I buy as this will be my first large eink device for pdfs.

[@XZ_94]

@@nanabai329 I’m in the same situation as you. I originally ordered the Go 10.3, but after hearing about the Note Max at the new product launch, I decided to cancel my Go 10.3 order and wait for the Note Max. In the world of large e-ink tablets, it’s clearly the top choice and may have no competitors for years. My only concern now is the battery life, so I ordered the Note X3 Pro (the mainland China version of the Go 10.3, with a front light) to use for now. I’ll wait for reviews of the Note Max to decide if I’ll go ahead with purchasing it.

[@edwardbryan5154]

Likewise I am hoping for a no-frontlight Note Max, it will make a perfect upgrade for my Max 3, which I love to bits.

[@XZ_94]

@@edwardbryan5154 Yes, considering its performance, 300 ppi display, and fast refresh technology, it can truly be called an e-ink tablet rather than just an e-ink reader. It has much broader applications, and I suspect there won’t be any competing products for years to come.

[@johnmanley4528]

Voja. Can you use MDO as a template in the Notes application now? That would bring features closed to what you can do with the Supernote, I would imagine. Thanks.

[@philologus6577]

I have the Go 10.3 and am so looking forward to the NoteMax. I use the 10.3 every single day and love it. At first I thought maybe no frontlight would be a deal breaker but I really actually prefer not having frontlight now. A reading lamp at night has been sufficient for my uses. I've been checking everyday for the pre-order to go live because I'm ordering day one.

[@xyzoub]

I use a reading lamp with an incandescent bulb with my e-ink tablet, a beautiful yellowish natural light spectrum and an e-ink screen: I'm in heaven!

[@LeicaCat]

I wish the Note Max (aka Go 13.3) would have the same rounded edges as the Go 10.3. I wonder if they changed this for rigidity reasons or something else. I suspect it won’t be as comfortable to hold with the sharp, squared-off edges. Pretty sure I’ll be buying one regardless.

[@0LoneTech]

@@LeicaCat On the other hand, it's what the stylus is made for.

[@jakemoore4080]

There are more details about the Note Max on the Boox reddit page as well as in the announcement promotional video… lists Ram, storage etc, 1300 screen, etc

[@LeicaCat]

The Note Max won’t have a front light (yay) as it’s exactly the same thickness as the Go 10.3 (4.6mm). Interestingly, it has BSR which the Go doesn’t have. I’m curious how this’ll affect battery life.

[@MyDeepGuide]

Badly 😁

[@johnmanley4528]

The BOOX employee who comments on Reddit confirmed that the Max does not have a front light. The keyboard case does look like it would lose connection to the tablet really easily. The TUC had that problem with its keyboard.

[@CyrilJap]

It does not have a front light. It was confirmed by a BOOX rep on Reddit.

[@MyDeepGuide]

Party time!!!!!🤗

[@JMaxwell1000]

Does anyone know if the Boox Note Max will be able to save files onto an OTG USB-C thumb drive? The Boox official website presentation of the Note Max offers very little technical information about the new device, which seems to have garnered the most interest of the 3.

[@5idi]

@@JMaxwell1000 Well, I have no proof, but all their Note devices can, so it'd be strange if this one couldn't.

[@JMaxwell1000]

@@5idi We had the Boox Go 10.3 for a week, but we could NOT transfer any files onto the OTG USB-C thumb drive, even though the drive was recognized by the tablet.

[@5idi]

@JMaxwell1000 Well, that's just weird. If the drive is recognized, there's no reason it wouldn't be possible using the copy- paste. I'd guess it's a bug or... the interface is so unintuitive, you just didn't find how. No kidding. I have a Boox device for 2 years and tried it now and it's incredibly weird.

[@JMaxwell1000]

@@5idi Agreed. We were very disappointed that we couldn't get files onto the OTG USB-C drive. We tried several times and looked through discussions on various forums but could not figure out how to do it. Sadly, we ended up returning it for just this reason. Otherwise, in terms of the hardware itself, it was fabulous. I have to say, though, that for note take per se, which is our main purpose in owning an e-ink tablet, we prefer the Supernote at our house. It just checks so many boxes with a fairly straightforward UI and ecosystem.

[@tanzhonghui]

Note air 4C is looking interesting to me. Kinda dig the black chassis more than the greenish one on the 3C. Been waiting to upgrade from my Note Air 1 to something with colour, although I've been hesitant about the image quality of Kaleido 3. Managed to see the Kaleido screen in person recently and it didn't look too bad... So might be considering it 👀💸

[@kevinhann5471]

Coming from a Remarkable 2, I am enjoying my NA4C very much. The writing feel is different for me but the new Boox is great.

[@sleepfishl]

Interesting stuff there. I recently got myself a Note Air 3 and I couldn't be happier. The only thing I miss is a proper drawing app that doesn't have massive input lag. The Notes App is a bit rudimentary in this regard. 😂

[@pedritolospalotes]

Do you think note max will be significantly better than Tab X? At least in therms of specs seems equivalent.

[@ryanwwest]

When will we get a Note Max Color?

[@Ms.Holmes-y1x]

The battery capacity is only 3700mAh, just like a car engine installed on an airplane, but the appearance is really beautiful

[@marcosmd544]

Any insight about a possible Note air 4 black and white? 330 PPI with front light would be great. Thank you for your reviews !👍

[@5idi]

@@marcosmd544 I'd buy it without thinking if they skip the BSR.

[@Morteza-hp9li]

In the Q&A section of the Note Max page, Boox say that it is 615 grams!!! which is heavier than Tab X. The "thinness" which they focused on is useless if the device is heavy. Very disappointed. So basically, they DID intend to produce a Go 13.3, but then their design team came up with something too heavy. And they figured it would be less ludicrous to call this brick a "Note", rather than a "Go", however similar the looks are to the latter.

[@arthur-ervinavramiea8848]

I think that the responses that are given on that website are provided by an automated AI chatbot or something like that - I asked some more specific questions about the weight and the response didn't make any logical sense :D. E.g. it is the higher DPI resolution + the presence of a magnetic strip for the pen + that a keyboard can be attached, which is why the weight is higher. Boox Go has the first two, and still manages to be lighter than similar devices.

[@Morteza-hp9li]

Actually, AI is nowadays far more logical than this, so it actually proves that the responses are human generated :))) They basically have no explanation for the disappointing heaviness of the device (which is partly to the usage of glass), and they simply recapitulate some of the advantages it has over Tab X. It is the kind of responses politicians give all the time...

[@MyDeepGuide]

It's quite likely that the weight is there because of the thinness. A thin long surface made out of any material will have a natural tendency to bend in a certain direction due to something called slenderness ratio. My guess is that Note Max has a lot of structural strengthening inside of the housing, designed to help combat that, which likely adds weight. Similar to why cabriolet versions of the same car model are heavier, as they need to have strengthening beams installed to minimize the twist, as the car geometry no longer has a roof to hold it together. The new screen shouldn't be the culprit for the weight, as it is supposed to use thinner glass than the panel in Tab X.

[@arthur-ervinavramiea8848]

​@@MyDeepGuide that would make sense, thank you for the clarification !

[@soufianemoumen5245]

Me too am very excuted about the note max... are we talking holiday season? Or 2025... according to their previous announcement patterns... i know u have nda so i leave it for commentators

[@liketheduck]

First! Looking forward to the reviews.

[@alaneddy4575]

I can see why you are exited about the Note Max. I think it has 128GB which will go part way to solving the lack of sd card which was the only reason I returned my GO 10.3. I have gone after BOOX on Twitter a lot over this. An sd card and no frontlight would make this the perfect device. The Note branding and price really should have included sd. A backlit version of the keyboard in white would be a dream.

[@bladegrassreboot7535]

I wish they didn't use a glass screen. A flex screen for the Note Max would have bene perfect.

[@TheDslom001]

I agree

[@davidrussell9662]

@@TheDslom001 Strongly agree.

[@stefanogalioni-kp3dg]

Amen!!!

[@karlmunford7000]

I have a Lumi 2 with the flexible screen but compared to my Supernote its awful to write on, far too slippery. Supernote appear to have got is just write with a flexi-screen, Feelwrite film and the ceramic nibbed Heart of Metal Pen... and I just can't duplicate anything near that on my Lumi 2 even with its flexible screen. Maybe they'll pull it off with the Note Max.

[@kiellunsford1184]

This isn’t a situation where Boox decided not to use the flexible display. The Mobius version of the Carta 1300 isn’t available yet - it’s unclear if it is even in development at this point.

[@lucasironi5675]

there must be a very good reason for them not doing a smartphone either b/w or kaleido, after their first attempt, but i don't get it

[@Lauriciu]

Phones need a lot more components and those bring a need for a bigger battery. Also, phones need to be market-specific because of the different radio bands used for calling

[@lucasironi5675]

@@Lauriciu i had a chinese kingrow k1 for a couple of years, it worked great in europe and for no less than 3 or 4 days ( kzbin.info_Vvf9TJzBNI )

[@kwijyboo]

Note max will not have frontlight according to boox q&a 😊

[@Ms.Holmes-y1x]

Yes, but the most important thing is the battery capacity is only 3700mAh.

[@PiriyaSambandaraksa]

Hmmm. I might just have to sell my go 10.3 for the note max

[@0xKruzr]

I'm with you on the Note Max. If anything I wish it were Tab Mini C sized and otherwise identical including the keyboard case, but Carta 1300 + BSR = 😍 same for the Palma 2, sort of: give it an EMR layer and I would JUMP on that thing.

[@masoudsakha9331]

it is 4.7 mm thickness. it would not have front light

[@a13jo]

I was waiting for the mini C 2 😢

[@andreidinu7316]

After the disaster that was Tab X, I feel reluctant to invest this kind of money in another attempt for a tablet. The refresh rate was horrible, I could not use it for work, due to OS limitations, wasn't really good for writing either. I hope you can get it early enough, so that we can have a good enough overview before making a decision.

[@davidrussell9662]

Battery weedy for its 13.3 inch size, too thin and glass screen too fragile. Its a no from me so far. Biggest excitement is the new firmware. Hopefully, firmware comes to all devices.

[@5idi]

@@davidrussell9662 Yeah, a 10.3 of that thickness was already concerning, now 13.3?

[@carlosespinal17]

Mmmmm supernote

[@0LoneTech]

It would appear I've made a mistake. I bought a Go 10.3 recently, and Note Max looks like the device I want.

[@philiphimmelstein9510]

The Note Max is an interesting step in the right direction! For me, it needs color for any sway as a productivity/reading centric device though.

[@LeicaCat]

Once I got the Go 10.3 I barely use my Note Air 3C because its screen looks so dark. The 150ppi RGB grid layer is too distracting and makes the underlying B&W layer look fuzzy. I, for one, am glad the Note Max won’t have color or a front light. Once you see how crisp and bright the Go 10.3 screen looks, it’s hard to go back. Color e-ink technology is just not ready for prime time, IMO

[@LeicaCat]

Have you used any color E-ink device? The colors look horrible, the screen is dark and fuzzy. If I really needed color, I’d go for an iPad.

[@nanabai329]

​​@@LeicaCatyour correct but the best color eink right now is the gallery 3 modified by remarkable in rMPP to be fast as that was the detriment b4 and why most color is in kaleido 3 which is faster but makes the screen darker than bw. I hope other companies try to optimize the gallery 3 so we can have better color but then again the blacks in gallery 3 is just a indigo dark blue color.

[@LeicaCat]

@@nanabai329 the reviews of the rMPP mention that the screen has a yellow color cast. Also, when you draw in color, it first has to draw in black in order to give the illusion of speed. A second later, the real color is displayed. Also, every page turn causes a page flash as the colors are redrawn. Ick.

[@5idi]

@@LeicaCat I don't mind how "bad" the colors would be. I'd use them just to make certain notes stand out or organize note categories so ipad makes zero sense to me, but yes, the dark kaleido screen keeps me from buying. I have a Note Air 2+ and love how it's not too bright, but wouldn't want it any darker.

[@datAero]

slap a front light on the go 10.3 and we're cooking