I played a couple hours before work this morning. And gotta say, the guns are like eye candy for my ear holes. Wow...
@King-Beezy5 жыл бұрын
I did the exact same but im late for work i wanna play 😂😂
@hectorrosa885 жыл бұрын
Me too man, work sucks😂
@bspoon25295 жыл бұрын
joeseyeuh hell why u think i took off work early today lmbo
@King-Beezy5 жыл бұрын
@@bspoon2529 lucky 😒
@guy3nder5295 жыл бұрын
ha we dont work on friday!
@nate68565 жыл бұрын
So, all side quests will be available after completing the story eh? Looks like this will be the first game I do all my side quests after finishing the main game. The ability to turn on Mayhem Mode and then go back to complete everything is such a nice feature. UPDATE: I have no self control
@folkrav5 жыл бұрын
Yup! In a lot of games doing too many sidequests makes the main story mode way too easy as you end up basically OP. This is a pretty damn interesting mechanic.
@nate68565 жыл бұрын
@@folkrav Indeed, now I just need to master self control so I dont do them otw to the main quest lmao. Struggling atm
@DaGoomb5 жыл бұрын
you could do the side missions in the first run through and then save them in true vault hunter mode
@So_Civil5 жыл бұрын
Nate Fiacco just finished tvhm without doing any side quest and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done 😂
@oliversgaming75565 жыл бұрын
@@So_Civil only do one sidequest. It's not until Eden-6 but it's called Raiders Of The Lost Rack. It gives you a Porcelien Pipe Bomb grenade mode that basically can 1-2 hit any of the bosses if you hit the enemy.
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen51525 жыл бұрын
Even though I wouldn’t care much if you did, I really appreciate the non spoilers. You just earned a sub keep it up
@swiggityswo95585 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought it was going to be spoilers so I didn't look at this video at first. Glad I wont have to worry about that
@shazam12055 жыл бұрын
@Grym people already knew there would be different planets in the game bro. It was one of their main advertisements lol not really a spoiler
@deckulus38155 жыл бұрын
Time to do some apology pushups
@yeezkneezz68615 жыл бұрын
Adam Decker “drop and give me 20 dollars”
@GyroZeppel5 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to... and he’s already doing them.
@deckulus38155 жыл бұрын
Damn straight.
@ParvulaUniversum5 жыл бұрын
Kind of sad that a single player looter shooter has more endgame content on day one than most other always online looter shooters.
@luisalvarezsoto92505 жыл бұрын
Bl3 is still an online looter shooter. All the looter shooters can be played single player as well
@theindiediary59505 жыл бұрын
It's great fun. But I have to say the division 2 had an insane amount of content on launch. Not sure if you played it, but you should.
@sensei_kazaimus13135 жыл бұрын
I played division 2 and it’s booty compared to bl3
@mstoj13865 жыл бұрын
Facts
@megabigdump5 жыл бұрын
@@luisalvarezsoto9250 none of the Destiny games or the latest Ghost Recon game can be played offline (as well as several others)
@coastfan245 жыл бұрын
just wanted to say MUCH APPRECIATED RYAN! for all your hard work putting out these daily high quality videos on Borderlands 3! Ive personally been a fan of yours for years coming from the Overwatch Central channel but just wanted to shout out all the beasting and hard work you have been doing and that it is much appreciated to have such awesome videos on the daily to watch! keep it up!
@w0mblemania5 жыл бұрын
Ki11er Six could learn how to NOT DO SPOILERS from this. Good job Ryan.
@brokenbladex5 жыл бұрын
but deckard cain dies in the story mode :( i mean snape dumbledore, uhh some celeb is preggers, we are throwing you a surprise party act surprised even though i ruined it
@Litwolf95 жыл бұрын
dude game is out spoils are out i can legit spoil the whole story rn
@w0mblemania5 жыл бұрын
@@Litwolf9 Grow up, son.
@arkhanknight65235 жыл бұрын
The story is shit anyways just enjoy the gameplay (Anthony burch come back pls)
@5dk_5 жыл бұрын
maya and lilith dies
@Vorusen5 жыл бұрын
My friend got a legendary weapon from the 2nd brain boss and when he reloads he throws the gun and it turns into a brain with legs that then turns into a turret lol it's awesome and I'm totally farming that boss in mayhem
@3d2y945 жыл бұрын
Ya I also got that in mayhem 3 for beating mega mind, the gun itself isn’t that good but it’s fun throwing the brains
@b_layered5 жыл бұрын
Smartgunxxl
@crossbowoperator48952 жыл бұрын
@@3d2y94 gun is great if you frie one bullet and use as a grenade !
@Samkonia47288 ай бұрын
It has a 1 in 7 chance of dropping
@jodyboles82085 жыл бұрын
truly amazing what gearbox has done with this game. its going to be so much fun for years to come!
@steel58975 жыл бұрын
Best looter shooter ever, period.
@pearbuns1015 жыл бұрын
The story was a little disappointing but yeah everything else is just amazing
@thecoopster64935 жыл бұрын
I hope they lower the drop rates for legendaries, because I'm lvl 32 and have a ton
@jodyboles82085 жыл бұрын
@@thecoopster6493 huh? why on earth would you want that lol
@TheHinni12345 жыл бұрын
Cooperthadirtbikelooper 2311 well, later you will be looking for the perfect anointed legendary with the right parts and the right perk for the right class. So there is that
@nazzy39645 жыл бұрын
The whole reason I do every side mission is to make sure they don’t become trivial, now I have a reason to forget about them until endgame XD
@crocodilealligator4025 жыл бұрын
Dude youre videos go straight to all the points i care about and only those and I love it. You will be my go to borderlands youtuber for the next 2 years im probably going to spend on this game
@jawnske5 жыл бұрын
i leveled from my endgame level (34) to max in a little over 1 session on proving grounds mayhem 2
@pucie_boi5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I was rushing main story because I wanted to save the side missions for true vault hunter mode, didn't even know about mayhem mode until after I beat the game. Now all my sidequests are at my level :)
@CedricBassman5 жыл бұрын
Well point of TVHM is that you can do all side missions and the campain again, so no need to save side missions. At least that's how it was in BL2
@Mechtardedidiot5 жыл бұрын
In the previous games, the side quests leveled to 35 on first playthrough, 50 on second and were scaled to your level on 3rd playthrough. They adjusted the xp amd level scaling in this game so that's why it's different.
@CedricBassman5 жыл бұрын
@@Mechtardedidiot So do i get this right, in BL3 you can replay the Campaign in TVHM but not side missions you already did in the normal campaign?
@Mechtardedidiot5 жыл бұрын
@@CedricBassman yes, tvhm can also be reset to try and get better versions of the mission rewards as well.
@CedricBassman5 жыл бұрын
@@Mechtardedidiot Well this kinda...sucks ass by the sound of it. I have to skip most Sidequests then, rush through the Campaign and save Side Quests for TVHM. But, from what i hear it's actually advised to finish the Campaign as quickly as possible to unlock Mayhem Mode.
@Sweet007015 жыл бұрын
I’m halfway through the game fml, been doing literally every single side content. At least I know now! Thanks man.
@doc25025 жыл бұрын
I feel ya, im 3 story missions away from the end and already lvl 45 from side quests and farming lmao, well at least i have a bunch of lvl 30 legendaries that i wont use :)
@chancho10105 жыл бұрын
I finished the campaign and this video popped up in my suggest field. I'm SO glad it did! I was about to do True Vault Hunter Mode to level because I didn't realize I could just go in Mayhem 1 mode and start farming that way. Holy crap, I didn't want to do the campaign all over again!
@howir0n1c25 жыл бұрын
But wouldn't you want to level before you farm so you don't get low level legendaries?
@chancho10105 жыл бұрын
Evan Zakman farming xp, not so much loot :)
@charliemc23 ай бұрын
Thanks this is the best video for explaining end game that I've seen so far. Great advice as well.
@thygod49205 жыл бұрын
Me trying out mayhem mode: Mayhem mode 1 vs final boss: 2-3 legendaries drop. Mayhem mode 3 vs final boss: 1 legendary drops I must say 500% loot quality is really great. Note: when defeating the final boss with mayhem mode 3 i had +luck w artifacts and guardian rank.
@mybadhighlights29395 жыл бұрын
Yeah I farmed the last boss with that particular blue looking grenade and I gained not just lots of levels but heaps of guardian ranks
@laytonthompson22485 жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna be finishing all side missions inside of mayhem in my first playthrough and then start true vault hunter mode for some true end game farming! (Also get myself ready for ultimate vault hunter mode)
@PashaOCE10 ай бұрын
been looking all day for a video like this but no one covered any of my questions. then this random video shows up and answers all of them thanks
@jinwoo73785 жыл бұрын
Where did you find that smg? That thing is nuts.. x4? Dam lol
@GyroZeppel5 жыл бұрын
It is the legendary drop from shrakk I think. You can find him for the legendary hunt outside the building for mouthpiece on that map.
@Forgetthereality5 жыл бұрын
@@GyroZeppel not only dropped ny skrakk Only few legendaries have a dedicated enemy holding them Crossroads is in the general loot table and drops from just about anything Found 1 in a locker and have had 30 drop from graveward
@livingcerealbowl55855 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting a guide for being the most efficient and this was perfect thank you!
@newjackhustler775 жыл бұрын
ive watched a few end games vids at this point. you did the best job explaining it. nice job
@iGnashtys5 жыл бұрын
My thing with these games is how is it fun replaying it over and over not just with borderlands I mean destiny 2 division 2 etc
@fredjones61485 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Glad I watched this before I got deep into the campaign! Thanks brother.
@guccigang98815 жыл бұрын
This game has blown my mind. I'll be playing this game for a very long time.... this has to be game of the year
@frankihatch3 жыл бұрын
Do you still play it?
@Gleandra5 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have showed us all the guardian perks.
@nachi68085 жыл бұрын
They are the same as borderlands 2 badass rabk but organized
@hunchoab33295 жыл бұрын
Cat Mom not really there are those perks and other bigger perks you can earn after speccing into certain categories
@Gleandra5 жыл бұрын
@@nachi6808 I was talking about the stepstones, not those % perks. :)
@nachi68085 жыл бұрын
@@hunchoab3329 ill take a look then i unlocked guardian ranks not too long ago
@robinwells53435 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I've ever watched from you. Really awesome stuff
@jacobolson96505 жыл бұрын
I’m on PS4. Any idea when Gearbox is going to make Mayhem Mode available at the beginning of TVHM? I have to beat the game all over again for the pedestal to reappear.
@jif21355 жыл бұрын
Currently it seems to be bugged for console players, PC players can activate mayhem at the beginning of their TVHM, while Xbox and PS4 currently cannot.
@jacobolson96505 жыл бұрын
Jif Yeah, that’s the thing though. I saw a reply from Gearbox on a thread saying that this is not actually a bug, but a feature... Gearbox seems to be intentionally dodging this issue. An absurd choice for such a massive problem. As a console player, I’m extremely let down by BL3 so far. It is clearly a game built around endgame features, yet on console, the endgame is irrefutably broken. And Gearbox has abandoned the primary issue. Honestly at this point, I want my money back.
@dinosboi74935 жыл бұрын
Jacob Olson has it been fixed ?, i just finished the game and dont know what to do next
@JustinChettle5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the cooldown explanation really appreciated that I am leveling to that point the last two days only need 5 more ranks
@GeneralNexus5 жыл бұрын
Wow such an informative and well explained video, was sat here wondering whether I should do Mayhem Mode or start TVHM but didn't really know which one was more beneficial. Going to start with TVHM tomorrow thanks.
@waseemelloss1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, makes it much easier to understand what's going to happen. Well done mate. 👍🏽👍🏽
@richardprice49453 жыл бұрын
That was great. Really helpful thanks! As I was clueless about how it all worked.
@OsedaxMinion5 жыл бұрын
Guardian Rank isn't infinite. The stats cap at 15% each.
@Shades_5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it gets extended with the levels in the dlc
@ZoneInOn5 жыл бұрын
the bonuses are... e.g- cooldown rate or gun damage.
@3_1_3rd_gaming5 жыл бұрын
Really lol??? If that's true, I feel sorry for all these people farming xp endlessly. Game's only been out 5 days and ppl already on mayhem 3.
@website6835 жыл бұрын
still though its gonna take awhile to get everything to 15%
@WSBfds5 жыл бұрын
Great video. No spoilers. Lots of info. Good shit.
@jamesserrano64273 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I just finished the campaign and I was lost and this helped a lot. Thanks!
@CaptJakesparrow5 жыл бұрын
I miss Badass ranks...It was much more fun doing different and sometimes difficult challenges. It made exploring more interesting and it kept everything (for along time at least) new. Guardian Modes are basically just leveling again, it gets boring very fast. At least there are different modes and things to do, but it seems like a much smaller amount compared to BL2. It just seems (to me at least) that it’s missing something...not sure what but...Oh I hope they do another Bunkers and Badasses like BL2 that was a blast! Oh, and great video by the way!
@hutchy54075 жыл бұрын
I really love that I don't have to play true vault hunter mode to keep progressing, I really am not a fan of new game + unless there is a significantly different story path/remix on the next run.
@MythologySkate5 жыл бұрын
This was the exact video I was looking for. Thank you!!
@ryanbosma66195 жыл бұрын
Love the info Thanks hommie!
@mattyc.93325 жыл бұрын
Great info. I'll keep this in mind as I progress in the story....
@Travis-zw1sv5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! Especially the 4 on the different VH’s. Really helped me pick the best one. Not sure if I’m the first but I got a double legendary drop from one of the loot backpacks. I have a video of it so if you ever do like best or craziest legendary drops for a video I can send you that one.
@Heatnation265 жыл бұрын
Most helpful BL3 video I seen so far. Thanks!
@ollysombrero84274 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. Thank you. Subbed
@RezaQin5 жыл бұрын
Played 12 hours with a friend today. Felt like 30 minutes. Absolutely banger of a game but it does need some smoothing out, especially with the menu lag.
@Always_defusable5 жыл бұрын
What platform you on?
@nathanhosier71005 жыл бұрын
Xbox has some bad menu lag and me and my brother have had the game shutdown the whole xbox still better than most titles now a days at least its playable
@jeffersonrodriguez80085 жыл бұрын
RezaQin yes the menu lag is ridiculous
@mstoj13865 жыл бұрын
I'm experiencing the same on the PC.
@sushiandmsbutterfly51452 жыл бұрын
Just got this game today
@CarySmith875 жыл бұрын
Weirdest thing I experience, Idk if it's just me or its a bug, but u melt enemies in one magazine or less. Other times I log into the game, it feels like my guns are getting nerfed in real time and like I'm level 1 fighting a level 50 boss. What's that about?
@mspilot82835 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep em coming. Loving BL3 so very much.
@hazer32485 жыл бұрын
i wish i had money wanna play it so badly is it good?
@mspilot82835 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely! If you liked or loved BL2 then you’ll feel the same about 3. Doubly more because they (Gearbox) went against the grain and didn’t make this a live service
@Gastoly5 жыл бұрын
Great video man, keep it up!
@murphyebass78375 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your video. Watched it pre starting the game and meant I held onto side quests which will help me level up quicker now. 31 hours in and I’m fucking loving this game.
@RomanowRomanow14 жыл бұрын
what is "mayhem gear" is it some higher tier of items?
@luminous25855 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit worried about the last two guardian rank bonuses from the survivor set. Wouldn't they make it near impossible to play a melee build with a roid shield?
@macudude5 жыл бұрын
Great advice! I wish I knew about the scaling before i started the game bc I’ve already done about half the side quests and now have a bunch of funny but useless guns
@CastToFall5 жыл бұрын
@Ryancentral, you have negative tokens because you earned more levels than you had in the video(67), but some kinda desych lowered your rank when you reloaded the game or changed lobbies or something. But you kept the tokens you spent, causing you to have negative available
@dcmanuel72325 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video....every other one I started to look at about end game stuff had spoilers.
@NerdyGamerReacts5 жыл бұрын
So ready for this game, installing it now on my Xbox One S, hyped!
@nickparker90625 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video I wanted/needed nice job you
@nykko735 жыл бұрын
Very good information, thank you !
@domingogonzalez30095 жыл бұрын
Whats that Hyperion sub machine gun that he's using?? Anyone know by chance?
@metalxempress5 жыл бұрын
I think it is a gun call The Bitch.
@MasterTehCheese5 жыл бұрын
The one that he is using in the beginning of the video in the circle of slaughter is called "Crossroad" mine is specifically called the "Auditing Crossroad," but I have no clue why.
@seenyab44945 жыл бұрын
cjthehammer The auditing part is a prefix. Some guns have them, some don’t and not all prefixes are the same.
@venivinivinci5 жыл бұрын
@@metalxempress the bitch is from bl2 and is red
@Davi-Jones5 жыл бұрын
Noticed I have one with an action skill cool down bonus and so many mods for melee attacks..... Let the games begin
@TheSinlessAssassin2 жыл бұрын
Oooh thanks for this video, made me realize I still have more to do before I do True Vault Hunter Mode.
@Jordares5 жыл бұрын
Do take note tho, something I didn't think about or realize until after I beat the final boss, some side missions become unavailable to you once you beat the final boss since that person is no longer around. There were some loot I couldn't get without starting a new char.
@nyxsteelgamers24045 жыл бұрын
awesome tips! thank you!
@corylyonsmusic5 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping... and assuming that the different modes have unique specific legendaries for each. Also wondering if TVHM and UVHM have specific legendaries in them as well? If not, I'm surprised they didn't lean into more reward pools for each different mode as a reason to do the variety of them.
@devonmiller6365 жыл бұрын
Ki11er6, Joltzdude, Bahroo, Ryancentral. Your name deserves to be alongside with these legends. Your videos are great!!!!
@venusdragojlovic42275 жыл бұрын
Man of low moral fiber too
@Midzark5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!! Got my Sub!!
@akirav99974 жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼thank you, this was Very good explained
@Shodakan03295 жыл бұрын
The Neg guardian points is because you did the offline glitch and gained experience. When you reconnect to the servers the amount of exp you should have earned does not match with what you have. So to make up for it you have to "earn" the exp again in online mode. This goes towards balancing out the amount of exp you should have verse what you have. You get to keep the perks but have to balance out the exp before earning more online guardian ranks again.
@BGIANAKy5 жыл бұрын
Oh. This happened to me on accident lol
@Ruukasu975 жыл бұрын
i had the - guardian tokens aswell, i killed a boss and he gave 7lvl ups. i believe this was a bug because as i relogged i wasnt lv 13 i was lvl 6 and had -7 tokens
@saltyscrublyfe98625 жыл бұрын
But you used the tokens right?
@Ruukasu975 жыл бұрын
@@saltyscrublyfe9862 yes
@cmanstars5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation frist time playing borderlands and this explained a lot for me
@wadeg44525 жыл бұрын
Can we see a video on your Amara melee build. Loving the vids so far!
@user-vx6dp5ft9l5 жыл бұрын
And what’s the point of true vault hunter mode then? If I can just crank the difficulty all the way up then surely there’s no need for true vault hunter mode because I’ll be earning the exact same loot in normal mode with mayhem mode on right?
@MrHappy43115 жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems kind of stupid to me
@fatbroccoli85 жыл бұрын
IlIlIlIl Il I guess it the difficulty stacks
@ericwhitlow73645 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent explanation.
@captain_nerdrage70915 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very concise breakdown
@CrypticSnow5 жыл бұрын
Moze i think has the longest action CD at its base. I'm so glad that guardian ranks and one of her skill tree's will make that cool down much better.
@Neon-yj9xw5 жыл бұрын
Easily Moze, Iron Bear has like 2 minutes of cooldown
@hippolyte52484 жыл бұрын
thanks for the clear explanations
@titus93035 жыл бұрын
They got my vote for game of the year
@Fishmeaker5 жыл бұрын
Just a second... Is this one of the Overwatch Central guys?
@Coys3195 жыл бұрын
hey guys my name is Ryan aaaand my name is misca
@red_back53825 жыл бұрын
@@Coys319 no one asked about your name so keep it to yourself
@MexicanNinja0075 жыл бұрын
Nice advice for quick leveling at end game
@TacticalPlaysYT5 жыл бұрын
Nice video man
@LloydTackwell5 жыл бұрын
Great guide thank you
@UrbanRangerEch03 жыл бұрын
I’m kind of confused, I have mayhem 6-10 weapons, good ones, like a nighthawk and stuff, got a strong amara build, but I still can’t kill most people on mayhem 6. I am level 53, but if I had mayhem 6 weapons you’d think I’d do damage
@mkports5 жыл бұрын
What I don't get, if you do the mayhem modes prior 50 every level up will devalue the gear you have gotten before. Maybe I get something utterly wrong here, but from my point of view mayham modes and TVHM actually does only start to make sense at level 50 because you don't have to refarm stuff after a levelup. I would love to see an evaluation and proving me wrong. From my understanding what seems efficient for me right now are public games doing stuff like cistern of slaughter, and while I play in a group level scaling is on. So I get always appropiate amount of exp to go for 50, that is my idea at least. Once I reach 50 I hope that I can up my gear through mayham modes to have an easy time in TVHM without having to rely on crappy purples or farming bosses endlessly. I hope you get my idea, if you can provide arguments against it, I would be glad.
@mkports5 жыл бұрын
@@dailyclipmafia5041 You mean you got carried. That works of course.
@FPrimeHD16185 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I watched this. I usually like to complete all side quests prior to finishing my first play through. Once you beat the game, are you not able to go through the story mission again, like TVHM, or UVHM?
@nexusluk34765 жыл бұрын
im confused, i activated mayhem mode and now i can't get to mouthpiece, there's a door in the way, pls help :/
@bashthedash41775 жыл бұрын
Your vids are awesome man keep it up ❤️
@DreeTheSupplier4 жыл бұрын
I was able to Chang my mayhem mode to 6 then back down to 4 cause it was hard and my dad isn’t as good. He’s handicapped now. Anyways.. why can’t I find the mayhem mode station? I was able to change it in my pause menu I thought but now I can’t find anyway to change it.. help
@dennisbloomer71715 жыл бұрын
You do know you can reset all side quests when choosing tvhm and norm right :D
@Rflexion5 жыл бұрын
you cant reset side quests doing norm?
@etangbose47554 жыл бұрын
Can you reset just side quests? Or story yoo
@ChopSueyBoom5 жыл бұрын
great video, question though, whats that Cryo SMG you have it seems sick!
@BryanCentralYT5 жыл бұрын
Auditing Crossword
@mattr.18045 жыл бұрын
Welp, no longer concerned about completing things before I beat the story. Looks like it’s more worthwhile to save that content (side missions/rare spawns) to level off of with mayhem turned on after the main story huh?
@BryanCentralYT5 жыл бұрын
Right
@luissantiago51635 жыл бұрын
Appreciate thi so much! Thank you!
@zenzen49825 жыл бұрын
If you finish campaign, you can start TVHM on Mayhem 3, don't need to finish TVHM to unlock Mayhem again.
@HardyMedia_5 жыл бұрын
Okay, great guide, very valuable information. But do I focus on TVHM (True Vault Hunter Mode) or Mayhem mode? Which one is more important in everyone’s opinion? (This goes without saying, but don’t read the comments unless you’ve finished the game as this is endgame talk)
@Yemmizboyen5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Although you don't need to complete tvhm before you can apply mayhem to it, I've been doing tvhm mayhem 1 since I got to sanctuary the first time :)
@Raishondo5 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about that smooth transition at 1:11?
@CptSaveAH035 жыл бұрын
Dude my heat broke when you said I can do the side missions in mayhem mode but at the current level I'm in.
@czar17_285 жыл бұрын
So does Mayhem Mode force everything to scale to you everytime you activate and Deactivate it?
@purebone005 жыл бұрын
Yes, it scales normal mode aswell
@jordanfister40155 жыл бұрын
In Plauthrough One you can turn it off and everything will be its set lvl, Mayhem 2 and 3 are much more challenging but offer better loot and XP.