BORE SNAKES: Why I stopped using them

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Desert Dog Outdoors

Desert Dog Outdoors

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@av-il6bf
@av-il6bf 7 ай бұрын
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@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 7 ай бұрын
Ive been using bore snakes for years and never had any of these problems. I guess thats what happens when you pmcs it before you run it down the barrel and clean it after you use it. Edit: I use mine by oiling just the portion where the string meets the mop, and the brush portions. The rest stays dry to soak up excess oil as its pulled through the bore. A couple hard shakes clears any accumulation from the mop. I also pull the string straight with the bore, and make sure the mop is in line with the bore while pulling, no dragging it through a mag well or ejection port at a hard angle.
@rollercam351
@rollercam351 6 ай бұрын
Lol all these HARD rules people try to live their lives by. I only use a bore snake on my 17 and 22 cals. So much more gentile. My 17vss has never failed to hold perfect laser like accuracy. One time down the bore (I always feed in through breech side to avoid snagging the ejector). Are people flossing them back and fourth or what? Hahaha
@Meight50five
@Meight50five 6 ай бұрын
You mean...just like anything else, it all depends on how and when/where you use it????? Sheesh, who'd have ever thunk it???? 😂 like everything else, it has its place and purpose. That's what people don't get.
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 7 ай бұрын
You are the second YouToober I really listen to who says “No!” to Bore Snakes. I hear you and will change my ways.
@jefferywilliams7687
@jefferywilliams7687 6 ай бұрын
As a barrel maker, never use a bore snake on a rifled barrel. Same as everyone else is saying. They break or worse they bunch up in a knot and get wedged in the groves. If you push with a rod it makes it worse. I found a way to get it out, but you run the risk of damaging the rifling. Take a long drill bit ( 18” to 24”) like you use to drill thru walls. Make sure it is smaller than your lands diameter. Center it up buy using a muzzle bushing and ease it down the barrel, gently tap it into the bore snake so the snake will grab ahold of the bit. Use a hand crank to get the snake taught on the bit. Then pull like (!@“&!!), they usually come out. You have nothing to lose. If you damage the barrel you are no worse off than if you have a stuck snake in your barrel. Do not pour abrasive chemicals in your barrel. They cause pitting. Always clean a rifle barrel with a plastic (or similar) coated one piece rod (Dewey, Tipton, Parker Hale, etc…). Use a good bore guide that fits the action or muzzle on leaver action and other enclose action rifles. Use brass jigs. Use a good softer brush most are readily available at stores (ProShots Benchrest Brush is my favorite, Hoppes works etc.). Don’t use a hard brush that will scratch the bore. Wet patch a couple of times with a solvent which as Hoppes # 9, CLP, Shooters Choice, (Wal*Mart Break Parts Cleaner). Put the brush on wet it scrub, make sure you push the rod straight (like your handling a pool stick). After about 5 to 10 strokes clean the brush spraying it off. Flush the bore or run wet patches thru the bore a couple usually does it. Brush again. Flush, then push a patch coated with a light clear oil (Rem Oil or Mineral Oil) fluid dynamics will take over. The heavy clear oil will push the lighter bore cleaners out the barrel groves. Then fun a dry patch. Recommend you put the gun up for storage with a light bore oil in the bore. Can be done by pushing an oil patch thru the bore. Before you shoot through rifle, push a dry patch thru to get the oil out. If you have an air compressor with a blow gun on it. Blow it dry. Never get any type of oil, solvent, etc. on your scope lenses. Cover the well.
@captainobvious1721
@captainobvious1721 6 ай бұрын
Rule #4: If a bore snake shows any signs of wear, discard it immediately! This is especially true at the transition point between the parachute cord and where the snake starts.
@georgidimitrov4566
@georgidimitrov4566 6 ай бұрын
With all due respect Desert Dog (I watched all of you videos and have learned a lot from them...) - for the past 3 years I have used nothing else but Bore Blitz (German version of bore snake) to clean my rifles both at home and in the field and never have any issues. Lupo 243 win (2000+ shots so far) Lupo 308 win (3000+ shots so far) continue to print 0.25 MOA groups at 100 yards have been never cleaned with anything else but Bore Blitz only ...
@adamrodgers2377
@adamrodgers2377 6 ай бұрын
Its sooooooo much fun to try and fish out a broken Boresnake. I have used them but after my fishing expedition I pitched all them things in the trash
@jeremyknox5599
@jeremyknox5599 6 ай бұрын
Your advice makes sense 100%. No more bore snakes for me!👍
@looseballs1966
@looseballs1966 6 ай бұрын
Try the otis system it is awesome if you don't want to use a good one piece cleaning rod, avoid those multi section rods they can be problems too, just the little kit that sells for 55$ and some cleaning patches and whatever bore solvents and so on you like and you are good for pretty much anything that is a gun, it is all I use now, I put it and some patches and solvents oils and a couple cleaning rags and some Qtips in a 4x8x3 inch little pouch and I clean every gun I own from 22 caliber to 500 S&W and shotguns with that kit.
@GreenKnight1979
@GreenKnight1979 7 ай бұрын
Why would carbon on a bore snake scratch a barrel, while carbon on a cotton patch would not?
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 7 ай бұрын
You push a patch through 1 time, it falls out the muzzle, and you throw it away. Using a bore snake is akin to using that dirty patch over and over. Even if you clean them periodically, carbon deposits and other particles are still embedded in the borensnake fibers. Add to this, the fact that bore snakes are very tight in the bore compared to patches, and those carbon deposits are being ground against the bore walls with much more pressure.
@GreenKnight1979
@GreenKnight1979 6 ай бұрын
@@desertdogoutdoors1113My personal routine is to run a wet patch through, run another and let sit for a while if it is particularly dirty or if I want to remove copper fouling, and finish with one pull of a bore snake that has been lightly sprayed with CLP. I can't verify this scientifically, but I'm sure the first couple of wet patches have done the vast majority of the cleaning, and the boresnake just polishes it off.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
@@GreenKnight1979 Whay not just run 1 more patch though instead of using a bore snake?
@DrBreezeAir
@DrBreezeAir 7 ай бұрын
All points make sense to me. I'm ditching them. As always, thanks, DD.
@308blr2
@308blr2 6 ай бұрын
I have expensive cleaning rods and jags; and I use bore snakes. Thanks for your perspective; and the possible pitfalls of using bore snakes. I used your link and just ordered the Otis universal rifle cleaning kit. I had never given Otis much consideration. Stuck casings and bore obstructions could really ruin my day; so now I should be better prepared.
@chriscosby2459
@chriscosby2459 6 ай бұрын
When bore snakes are new, it is sometimes difficult to pull them through. I am always afraid the cord will break.
@johnstewart2011
@johnstewart2011 6 ай бұрын
You must be brilliant (because we agree 😉 ). I have long been suspicious of the bore snake concept because of reading about the pull-through cleaning devices that were traditionally issued by European armies and the wear they caused on rifle barrel crowns. Yes, they usually consisted of aluminum beads on a chain and would cause wear more quickly, but the fundamental danger of a well-used, dirty bore snake is the same, and even pulling the snake straight out doesn’t eliminate all contact with the crown. But you also raised some other points that I’ll remember the next time someone asks my opinion of the devices.
@marcuspierantozzi
@marcuspierantozzi 6 ай бұрын
Ive used Hoppes bore snakes on my .375 and my Lott for a long time and never had an issue. I do not use it to "clean" my barrels as such. I use it to clear dust and grass (yes grass sometimes) after a long walk or every few days while on safari/hunt.. For me it just helps keep the barrel clean.
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 3 ай бұрын
Otis makes a pull-through cleaner called the Ripcord that is now US military issue with their own NSNs for different calibers.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 7 ай бұрын
Cccccertainly haven't ussssssssssed bore ssssssssnakes, and had thought I might at ssssssssssssome point, but thisssssss has convinccccccced me to ssssssstay away.
@z.melnyk8822
@z.melnyk8822 6 ай бұрын
I personally prefer snakes just for ease of carry due to to myself doing a lot of trekking and having bad experiences with Hoppes' aluminum cleaning rods, so I really appreciate the mention of the Otis system. Seems to combine the best of both worlds.
@scvandy3129
@scvandy3129 6 ай бұрын
"z.melnyk8822," " . . . . bad experiences with Hoppes' aluminum cleaning rods . . . " Expound, please, for the millions of shooters who've been cleaning with them for decades. Of course we are sorry to hear of your 'bad experiences' -- thankfully you're still here to tell us about them. So, we'll consider it a lesson learned passed on to us so that, God willing, and with good judgement we won't duplicate. . . . . . . . Rhetorical question / remark: Has the state of Washington GONE OUT OF ITS MIND?!?! This jewel of the Pacific Northwest is being neutered right before our eyes -- and THEIR LIVES. . . . . . . . "Many thanks, 'Desert Dog Outdoors.'"
@cgarrand78
@cgarrand78 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Funny as hell with very good points and information.Great job,as always!
@richardkramer1094
@richardkramer1094 7 ай бұрын
As a professional gunsmith I say don’t use a damn boresnake! I’ve seen too many people ruin a good barrel trying to remove a broken boresnake. They aren’t worth the trouble nor the expense of having a barrel replaced. If you need a cleaning kit in the field then purchase an Otis kit and be done with it or have a ball bearing cleaning rod at your base camp. Here’s another tip, put a piece of electrical tape over the muzzle of your firearm while in the field, just a shot piece, it will actually blow off or your bullet will pass through it in you need to take a fast shot. Don’t be a snake charmer!
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 7 ай бұрын
I used to carry electrical tape on me to cover my muzzle, but I now use muzzle condoms and find them much easier to carry and use in the rain.
@richardkramer1094
@richardkramer1094 7 ай бұрын
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 they work great.
@Master_Yoda1990
@Master_Yoda1990 6 ай бұрын
I use a bore snake, the problem with people is they don't use it correctly causing fast wear and tear on the snake and they don't inspect the snake for fraying before use.
@Swoop180
@Swoop180 6 ай бұрын
I find cleaning my firearms therapeutic, same thing with sharpening my knives. So why rush it...
@bigtrev761
@bigtrev761 6 ай бұрын
🇦🇺😎👍Hey mate I’ve had 4 bore snakes for years and I’ve never properly used them. When I got them I tried to lightly insert a few into my rifles and I noticed they were very tight so I felt down the track their could be problems so they never got used. As for dragging crud back down the barrel I couldn’t agree more. Great honest video 🏁
@jake9705
@jake9705 7 ай бұрын
Great points here, will reconsider using bore snakes for rifles. Mostly use them on my shotguns and a little beater .22LR bolt action (Ruger American). For my AR and shorter barreled rifles I like Frog Lube's (apparently now discontinued) all-in-one cleaning kit shaped like an AR magazine! Bought it years ago and seems like it's a collectible now I guess 😂 It's a grey, AR magazine-shaped cleaning kit containing a durable metal cleaning rod in 3 pieces, a jag tip, a brush tip, the thingy that holds your wipes, some wipes, some Q-tips, some Frog Lube "ketchup packets," some picks, and has a little extra room to spare. Kit came in two sizes: normal and double wide. The gimmick is that since it's magazine shaped it fits into any magazine slot in your plate carrier. The plastic it's made out of is super resistant to chemicals and acts as a mixing pot for cleaning chemicals. You can dip your Q-tips or whatever into it safely.
@NCWoodlandRoamer
@NCWoodlandRoamer 7 ай бұрын
Damn DD I never even thought about a bore snake breaking like that. In the trash they go! Thanks for yet another eye opening video.
@jamesmooney5348
@jamesmooney5348 6 ай бұрын
Kinda ah bummer. I have a bunch of the that are new. But hard to argue with what you said. I'll have to change my field / hunting cleaning kit.
@brettcleveland6335
@brettcleveland6335 6 ай бұрын
I put my rifles away with a thick storage oil because some of them might not be used even annually and my safe condensates. Ive always put a snake through before firing but its its only used for that purpose then back into container. Good tip about the muzzle tape. Very common here in NZ.
@scvandy3129
@scvandy3129 6 ай бұрын
"brettcleveland6335," Great to hear your report. . . . Since you 'spilled the beans' (like 'the cat's out of the bag,' American slang for 'let everyone know' or 'now everyone knows') New Zealand is your residence (lucky you!), I feel this is a rare opportunity to ask how have your political leaders escaped the lunacy and pure madness and thievery of your neighbor in the Pacific, Australia's where they wiped out SO MUCH of their proud, privileged tradition of private gun ownership? In the U.S. we're not immune to that, even with our Second Amendment, as radical types governing (serving as governor) Illinois, New York, California and most recently, draconian measures in Washington state, would like NOTHING MORE than blast through, take-no-prisoners GUN-FREE world.
@SAR0311
@SAR0311 3 ай бұрын
I've had properly sized bore snakes be so hard to pull through I was amazed at the string didn't break. I counted myself lucky and didn't want to keep pushing my luck and find out the hard way how long it would take until one eventually broke. I've even had issues with the Otis steel cable pull throughs and the eyelet and brush connectors to where I don't feel comfortable using those either. Sometimes they can unscrew in the bore which is not a huge problem because you can stick the cable down there or a rod and screw it back together but then that takes away the simple convenience you were using it for in the first place.
@mackellyman5642
@mackellyman5642 6 ай бұрын
Now Granny taught me had to use toilet paper with shit on it with that clever "second fold" without getting any on you... Shotgun is the only place for a bore snake after tournament shooting when you have to break it down and put it back in a hard case if you don't want to "get any on you" IMHO. It looks like a change is coming to my cleaning habit. Excellent content, and it looks like Beka has provided intel to help drive the point home.
@jackbuendgen389
@jackbuendgen389 7 ай бұрын
Completely unrelated to your video DD. Did you watch the new Backfire vid? A guy claimed he was able to make 100% of his shots out to 600 yards. Backfire challenged him and put it on video.
@sandybarnett7502
@sandybarnett7502 7 ай бұрын
I watched it. Just showed most of us got no business shooting past 300 yards,maybe 200!
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 7 ай бұрын
OK, I just watched it. I think that video summed up the reality of internet trolls and "forum experts". It was obvious from watching that "Marine Marksman" shoot, that he had absolutely no grasp on any shooting fundamentals (no trigger control, no natural point of aim, no attemp to check parallax, lifting head, no follow-through, no rear support, and no awareness of chamber status). It was a shit show, and I applaud Backfire for showing it. Can you imagine how many thousands of people on the internet have listened to that guy's "expert advice" over the years.
@jackbuendgen389
@jackbuendgen389 7 ай бұрын
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 I think the worst part was how he said he felt capable out to 400 yards after making a fool of himself. It REALLY goes to show how god AWFUL some people are at shooting.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 7 ай бұрын
​@@jackbuendgen389And he'll continue being an internet long-distance hunting expert, and he will maintain a large audience.
@craigparker4108
@craigparker4108 6 ай бұрын
@@jackbuendgen389 That was a dumb statement & shows he is incapable of learning from his mistakes.
@mytquin7605
@mytquin7605 6 ай бұрын
total agreement. once i obtained a bore scope i saw how filthy the barrel really was. i do use a boresnake on my .22 pistols at the range only after shooting a lot of rounds. at home i do the bore cleaning the proper way.
@tomgiorgini9154
@tomgiorgini9154 5 ай бұрын
exactly that's why I have never even considered a bore snake, simply pulling all the crap repeatedly through your gun, some have no common sense
@jefferywilliams7687
@jefferywilliams7687 6 ай бұрын
No parachute cord either!!! They really knot up and chemicals cause them to breakdown and break.
@REDNECKROOTS
@REDNECKROOTS 7 ай бұрын
Agreed . Only place bore snakes make sense to me is in a survival pak. Inly use in a pinch. It would be better then not cleaning at all.
@Cobra44Magnum
@Cobra44Magnum 6 ай бұрын
Excellent food for thought. Sounds like "the juice isn't worth the squeeze" in this matter. Thank you for making this video.
@ron8566
@ron8566 6 ай бұрын
I have not thought about this, but as I think about what you’ve said, I think I will toss my bore-snakes out.
@omf2007
@omf2007 6 ай бұрын
Never used one. Always kept a piece of electrical tape over the muzzle and a light weight field cleaning kit as needed with me.
@jasyamaha
@jasyamaha 7 ай бұрын
The idea of dragging a dirty bore snake through my barrel just never sounded good to me. I don't use my dunny paper twice.
@greencable2222
@greencable2222 6 ай бұрын
wash it.....
@jasyamaha
@jasyamaha 6 ай бұрын
@greencable2222 definitely possible but I'd be fukn around trying to get that puppy spotless every time I use it.
@Wildwestwrangler
@Wildwestwrangler 6 ай бұрын
I use D-Lead to wash mine. Although I only use the snake for pistols mainly. I have a coated 1 piece rod for rifles.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
@@greencable2222 Do you wash it every single time you pull it through????
@Subtlenimbus
@Subtlenimbus 6 ай бұрын
My bore snakes are 30” long without the string. If the string broke while pulling it through, either one end or the other is still hanging out of the barrel and can easily be pulled through. Point #1 is only a problem if using a snake shorter than the barrel.
@larsencarson5465
@larsencarson5465 6 ай бұрын
I use the coated cable for lever actions, they are great for lever actions.
@mdirtydogg
@mdirtydogg 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this informative video.
@marklove2022
@marklove2022 6 ай бұрын
I never liked the idea of pulling a dirty bore snake back through the barrel. Although I would wash and dry between uses. I have the Remington squeeg-e cleaning kit for most calibers and gauges. It has three cables for different length barrels. You can use brushes or squeeg-e, or a slotted tip to pull cotton patches. Love the cable systems for lever actions especially. Traditional cleaning rod for most others from breech. Thanks for bringing this up Desert Dog! I'll probably throw my bore snakes away!
@davidfornkahl8374
@davidfornkahl8374 6 ай бұрын
Told people when they came out---- THEY ARE GOOD FOR LAZY PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW BETTER!
@borkwoof696
@borkwoof696 7 ай бұрын
Great insights and love the new video!
@terrycalvert7812
@terrycalvert7812 6 ай бұрын
Iv never used a bore snake nor will I ever use one. The first time I ever saw a bore snake I thought to myself what I gimmick that is! When I clean my barrel I clean it to bare steel to put it up for the year and there is no way in hell you can clean a bore as well as I’m looking to clean my bores when I clean!! I too have had first hand experience with someone getting a bore snake stuck in there bore. A neighbor brought a gun to me a year or two ago and had one stuck in his bore and man did I have to fight to get that thing out but I managed to remove it. Just buy a good cleaning kit a quality one piece rod and clean your rifle the proper way. We spend 1000s on our rifles is a 100$ worth of quality gun cleaning supply’s really going to kill ya to buy to take care of your rifles??
@scvandy3129
@scvandy3129 6 ай бұрын
"terrycalvert7812," "A quality one-piece rod" recommendation for the old school, been-around-a-long-time types still screwing together the sectionals from within their Hoppes 'all-in-one' kits. BTW, if ordering from your suggestion(s) that are mail order, the s&h cost might equal the rod's cost due to its extreme length. Once again, Desert Dog, informative, colorfully illustrated report for which we 2A types within the vast KZbin Universe say "Thank you."
@williamdurdin1964
@williamdurdin1964 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate your informative video I learned alot Thnx so much
@HerrGesetz
@HerrGesetz 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree.
@Bunduki
@Bunduki 7 ай бұрын
Hey DD Coming from an engineering trade background, l find boresnakes a collective ground for grit & grime , they have never impressed me.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 7 ай бұрын
It took me a few years, but I came to the same realization.
@Bunduki
@Bunduki 6 ай бұрын
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 Mind you , they do make good impromptu bore laps, after a couple of years of use , the snake is nicely saturated with fine carbon debris as you correctly stated . Really enjoying your episodes.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 7 ай бұрын
I put snake oil and snake bores in the same class. Not totally useless but pretty close 🤔😳
@yz8096
@yz8096 6 ай бұрын
Good video. Opinions abound on this. I use bore snakes strictly at the range at certain intervals during ladder testing. They are not a substitute for a thorough cleaning, and most people understand that. Some would also argue that until accuracy falls off, why even clean? These are all debatable questions but I think you make some valid points. Thanks.
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 Ай бұрын
I was always afraid of bore snakes..now I know why...
@OtisTechnology
@OtisTechnology 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the mention.
@davidcudlip6587
@davidcudlip6587 6 ай бұрын
I never did think they cleaned all that great. I could always swab out a lot of dirty patches after running a bore snake thru before. It might look clean, but run a bronze brush thru after running the bore snake first and there is a lot of crap left in the barrel the snake never got. The fact that the string might break and get the snake stuck makes it not worth screwing with.
@paulx2777
@paulx2777 6 ай бұрын
I have been using bore snakes not to clean the barrel, but only to knock out the soft carbon immediately at the end of a shooting session, before it can harden up. But the broken string problem definitely is concerning, so I guess I will use my Otis kit for that now too. BTW I am also against using cleaning rods, except in large calibers where you can prevent the rot from bowing and contacting the barrel. I think pull systems are the best.
@JeffreyCotle
@JeffreyCotle 6 ай бұрын
Will the otis steel cable work on lever actions.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Yes, perfectly.
@phelaar
@phelaar 6 ай бұрын
Interesting points, I think I'm going to stop using boresnakes.
@steverobbins8661
@steverobbins8661 6 ай бұрын
Good show DD. I've always had the same observations/thoughts about these junk inventions. I get a kick out of all the guys on here with their panties in a twist defending the snakes lol. Keep it up and keep the vids rolling!
@scvandy3129
@scvandy3129 6 ай бұрын
"steverobbins8661," "these junk inventions" reads like it's one of many scams that came out a few years ago. As Desert Dog reminded someone Commenting, Bore Snakes have been around since 1999. If they were total crap they couldn't have hung on for a quarter of a century. I maintain my guns but I don't use snakes "by choice" although I have been 'hustled' by the nice Asian women at the Bore Snake tables at gun shows over the years to buy one. And, so I have . . . several times. And they're still NIB. Ha.
@tripplebeards3427
@tripplebeards3427 7 ай бұрын
I’ve tried them in the past, but it doesn’t seem to really do anything. My barrels are still just as dirty almost as close as they were before I ran the snake through a few times.
@skyepilotte11
@skyepilotte11 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting info on bore snakes. Thx
@juliogonzo2718
@juliogonzo2718 6 ай бұрын
Nothing I own has a long enough barrel for the string to break and the entire snake to be in the barrel. I also don't use them till they are all raggedy assed. I do agree that they don't clean as well as a bronze brush and patches
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes, the body also rips in half. Bore diameter tolleraces are all over the place, and Bore Snake diameter tollerances are even worse. When you run an oversized Bore Snake down a tight bore, it will get stuck so badly that it will rip apart before it comes out. Gunsmiths have devised special drill bits and screws welded to rods to remove stuck bore snakes; but they end up damaging the bore half the time. One Gunsmith in Texas would try to burn them out, but people had mixed opinions on that practice. There are solid reasons why gunsmiths and barrel makers do not recommend them.
@usevisine3198
@usevisine3198 6 ай бұрын
I use a boresnake for the initial two or three passes, then get the rod+jag and cotton patches to finish the cleaning.
@freddyw4555
@freddyw4555 6 ай бұрын
I like them because they are easy to use. A rod was always a hassle to use
@stevekuhns793
@stevekuhns793 6 ай бұрын
I believe that a lot of precision shooters also say not to clean the bore at all until you see a change in accuracy. I'd love to hear your take on the subject.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Actually, that is not true. REAL top precision shooters clean their barrels at a specified round count, BEFORE accuracy drops off. Think about it.
@gascheck8151
@gascheck8151 6 ай бұрын
This product should be re-branded as. “SNAKE OIL DELUXE “
@scottsquires6186
@scottsquires6186 6 ай бұрын
I think bore snakes are really good for cleaning after each shot when breaking in a new barrel not a lot else after that clean conventional way
@peterkarmelk5084
@peterkarmelk5084 6 ай бұрын
Get a push rod and push it through if the string breaks..(never occured to me in 14 years) they're a great swipe getting off and on the range but they're no substitute to proper cleaning
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
A rod will not push the Snake out if it gets stuck. Not even close.
@nickallen8333
@nickallen8333 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never used a bore snake in my life. Always used a 1 piece rod and never had a reason to use anything else.
@Robert-cd5zr
@Robert-cd5zr 6 ай бұрын
Just wash the boresnake and let it dry fully in between cleanings, ultrasonic clean it if you like.
@paulstoyek381
@paulstoyek381 6 ай бұрын
They are not perfect but a few tips will keep you out of trouble.. Not intended for use with bore solvent.. Not intended to last forever.. The problem of lodging inside a barrel is from using the wrong size snake for the caliber..Dont say it cant happen..It does.. Primarily intended for shotguns and for those it works wonders.. For best results use right at the range or in the field..Heat is your friend.. Soak, wash and rinse once in a while.. And finally, read and follow all manufacturers instructions..
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
"Not intended for use with Bore Solvent????" Hoppes periodically makes bore snake kits, included with bore solvent. On Hoppes website, they say the proper way to use a Bore Snake is with solvent and oil! The rest of the post, just as cringe-worthy. You jump to a lot of conclusions.
@Foxxorz
@Foxxorz 6 ай бұрын
I only use bore snakes for a final pass to apply oil to the barrel.
@kevinjulievan
@kevinjulievan 5 ай бұрын
Great video . Thanks for the info !
@miniaturefarmer464
@miniaturefarmer464 6 ай бұрын
When you use Hoppes 9 on a bore snake, they actually stick in the bore very bad. I think that they were meant to be used with a CLP type lube. I quit using them also.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Hoppes recommends using #9 with their bore snakes. I don't think the people at Hoppes actually use these things.
@roadking6414
@roadking6414 6 ай бұрын
I knew I wasn't the only one thinking this.
@Jonsoh811
@Jonsoh811 6 ай бұрын
The only reason for a boresnake is to remove debris (like mud, leaves, grass, etc) in the field after (for example) accidentally dipping the end in the ground when picking something. In the end of every huntingday you do a proper clean, not with a boresnake.
@jeff0nyschuk670
@jeff0nyschuk670 6 ай бұрын
I've been using bore-snake for over 55 years..I have had no problem at all,,I would be more worried about aluminum or brass rod scraping the sides of the barrel 🤔 😅
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Haven't they only been producing them for about 25 years. The patent was filed in 1999 🤔😂
@smithn.wesson495
@smithn.wesson495 6 ай бұрын
There is NOTHING wrong with using Bore Snakes to do light to general quick cleaning of your handgun or rifle. I have used Bore Snakes for over 15 years and never had one single issue. Just use common sense, wash the bore snake periodically and use with MPro7 Gun Cleaner. Bore Snakes are good for quick, basic and light cleaning. I use traditional rod, brushes and patches for more in-depth and heavy-duty cleaning later on. Again, use common sense and use the Bore Snake in the right time, the right place and for the right reason and there is a very small chance of ever having any issues.
@pjm8047
@pjm8047 6 ай бұрын
How would i can my 7mm browning blr without a bore snake? Don’t want to push crap from front to back with a normal brush.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Watch the video. The Otis steel cable pull through system is perfect for lever guns and will clean much better than a bore snake.
@cgrable8342
@cgrable8342 6 ай бұрын
I used one once for one pass years ago. I looked the crud, I felt the crud and went, "Now what do I do with it?" Question: Has anyone tried to get a stuck bore snake out with compressed air ?
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
It doesn't work. Most smith's try to snag the snake with a screw or drill bit and yank it out. About 50% of the time, this damages the bore. I've also heard of smiths threading the muzzle for a grease fitting and forcing it out with a pneumatic grease gun. I've heard of others trying to burn it out of the barrel. It's never an easy task and is often unsuccessful.
@JeffreyCotle
@JeffreyCotle 6 ай бұрын
I usually get a new bore snake about every year. . I need advice on my lever action rifles. I was always told to clean away from chamber. I need your advice on cleaning my rifles. My winchester rifles are 100 years old . I do not want to ruin them.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Get the Otis universal cleaning kit linked in this video description.
@user-ds9eq8zx2n
@user-ds9eq8zx2n 6 ай бұрын
I was surprised when you pulled out the mop in your Africa kit
@rbm6184
@rbm6184 6 ай бұрын
BORE SNAKES: Why I stopped using them Just use a bore guide where possible and an aluminum cleaning rod and it will be fine. The barrel is steel is harder than the soft metal alloy rod and alloy and plastic fittings.
@colemiller4899
@colemiller4899 7 ай бұрын
I use them but mine have a rubber coated cable so it durable and I just run it dry then put foaming cleaner let it set then run patches
@JimVaught-qm6gf
@JimVaught-qm6gf 6 ай бұрын
We’re supposed to clean them ? 😉
@JimPippin-wc7fq
@JimPippin-wc7fq 6 ай бұрын
I use them when I am at the range for a quick clean , but still give my guns a thorough cleaning when I get home
@darylsapergia3663
@darylsapergia3663 6 ай бұрын
Having the knowledge & experience to glass bed an action/barrel, I am shocked you would even consider using one of those contraptions.
@nickmcwilliams685
@nickmcwilliams685 6 ай бұрын
Right up there with the just don’t clean it guys.
@Mr.Obvious-
@Mr.Obvious- 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff and funny shi....... LOL. I never did like bore snakes.
@kennithmorella2693
@kennithmorella2693 6 ай бұрын
GREAT JOB PRESENTING DOES N DONTS OF FIREARMS CARE N PROTECTION. 👍THANKS 😊
@richvest7212
@richvest7212 6 ай бұрын
Bore snakes are great Cleaning rods are obsolete
@robbomber984
@robbomber984 6 ай бұрын
Nice info mine are going in the trash.
@MisterMediocre666
@MisterMediocre666 6 ай бұрын
The only reason I didn't use boresnake is I am too lazy to do that...
@Factory_Muff
@Factory_Muff 6 ай бұрын
10:46 precisely. Zero reason to clean in the field if you’re a hunter, plinker, or whatever sport’s shooting enthusiast you might be. Unless you’re one of the 00.5 percent of gun owners who are actively using your firearm in a combat scenario. And besides, if you’re not using corrosive surplus ammo you don’t need to clean your rifle that often. Once every 300-400 rounds of constant daily fire would be a good time to clean, otherwise if you’re a normal hunter or enthusiast just do it when the season is over or before you put your rifle away for a decent amount of time. As for 22lr’s, I hardly ever clean them. I find that the dirtier the bore, the more accuracy I get. Very weird indeed.
@ironmike7339
@ironmike7339 6 ай бұрын
Who the hell is rolling around in the mud and dirt while out hunting ? In my 45 years in the field a little snow or rain was my only issues. If your that stupid you shouldn’t be climbing a tree either !
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
Nobody said anything about rolling around in mud. I've slipped on mossy rocks before while crossing streams during a deer hunt. Accidentally stepping into holes in muddy fields and going down is common on Pheasant hunts. Keeping your footing while hunting Chukar in the Mojave Desert isn't always easy. Crossing a river in a leaking dugout canoe in Zimbabwe might get a rifle wet. It's called hunting and things happen. I don't hunt in tree stands.
@bezimienny_andzej6425
@bezimienny_andzej6425 6 ай бұрын
I've dropped from a steep bank almost to the water (actually got 1 foot wet) while fishing more than once, and I guess some hunters are a bit more determined, so it doesn't seem unlikely to take a dip in mud from time to time while traversing difficult terrain.
@ericvantassell6809
@ericvantassell6809 6 ай бұрын
it's on you if you don't have a cleaning rod
@Mike-du4tq
@Mike-du4tq 6 ай бұрын
90% of the reasons you stopped using a BS are the same reasons I never started.
@woodman8261
@woodman8261 6 ай бұрын
I just threw my snakes into the garbage,thanks.
@boxerjoe1314
@boxerjoe1314 7 ай бұрын
After watching this video I too no longer eat crab cakes
@hbarwickjr
@hbarwickjr 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. No pet snakes.
@BCBtrucks64
@BCBtrucks64 6 ай бұрын
Are brass brushes to harsh on barrels and rifling
@reptileguy8458
@reptileguy8458 6 ай бұрын
Don't hate them...but not a fan of bore snakes.
@cleaner6666
@cleaner6666 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@craftyderps7869
@craftyderps7869 6 ай бұрын
So this guy assumes no one cleans their snake… not buying all this.
@desertdogoutdoors1113
@desertdogoutdoors1113 6 ай бұрын
You are assuming an assumption. I never said that. An article for you to look at: www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/
@analogludite9575
@analogludite9575 6 ай бұрын
I've always thought a bore snake did more redistributing fouling than bore cleaning, like reusing a dirty patch. When asking how, and how often do you clean your bore snake, I have been told, "You don't need to," or "I don't know, I never have," by people that use them. So, how often do you clean your snake, and how do you do it? I typically use 6 - 10 patches, between swabbing and wiping, until one comes out clean.
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