Borg Probe Attacks Uss Voyager

Clip taken from the Star Trek Voyager episode "Dark Frontier part 1".
Although I hate how Voyager totally made the Borg look weak, this is one of my favorite opening scenes of the series...hopefully you will enjoy : )

[@Lizfan2]

Janeway:"Now THIS is how I prefer the Borg...in pieces."

[@FekLeyrTarg]

It's damn cool to see a fight from the Borg's perspective. Damn fascinating.

[@Blackwind_Legacy]

it's ineffective. They shouldn't need information and control panels. Excluding actual physical activities, everything should be handled via plug in from their alcove.

[@LandersWorkshop]

@@Blackwind_Legacy Nah, they have to go out and get stuck in as it's a probe-class which is probably less fancy than a full on cube.

[@MobilerInfanterist]

@@Blackwind_Legacy That's something that bothers my for quite a while, too. Alarm sounds, screens that show the ship. All not necessary. The voiceover *may* make sense, if you consider it part of the hive mind. But aside from that, the ship can be steered from neural interfaces, the notifications should already be known to the entire ship crew anyways (one mind...), so... what's the point of all this?

[@soulessification]

@@MobilerInfanterist Even a ship needs basic maintenance. Not rocket science

[@MobilerInfanterist]

@@soulessification But it does not need any alarm tone or something. They would be aware of any problem already. And the screen is also... strange, considering how often they don't even show themselves, when making contact. Maybe a maintenance device with a display makes sense. but the rest would already be in their minds.

[@ahfolley]

Nothing fancier than seeing Federation phaser strips power up and fire, and the sound effect is cool too. I loved the way the ones on the Galaxy Class were done on DS9.

[@amc6508]

shame we can see that in Discovery!!! watching this is a real beauty!

[@yourstruly4817]

In Discovery it's just "pew pew pew"

[@MgaTalunanKayo]

Beams:Overload. I love it!

[@phunk8607]

wait til you see USS Enterprise D attack inside Borg cube...

[@GianfrancoFronzi]

The Borg explosion wasn't from the photon torpedo , it was because of their faulty electrical wiring causing all those sparks . They needed an electrician .

[@bryanchong1713]

They do, they just lost the knowledge to assimilating idiots

[@spg1794]

no fuse box... tsk tsk

[@Sovereign01]

You'd think they'd have assimilated at least one in their time.

[@Boskov01]

"Assimilate This!" - Worf, Son of Mogh.

[@HikingFeral]

4 year old gold

[@tareke586]

Hiking Feral 8 month old silver

[@TsutomuTomutsu]

"Starfleet photon torpedo... disarm weapon... take your time!"

[@hmrhuang]

And what's up with the warning klaxons?!

[@henkman00]

''security breach...Star Fleet photon torpedo...activate klaxon...klaxon engaged...torpedo detonation imminent..activate Wilhelm scream...''

[@CommanderLVJ1]

+TsutomuTomutsu Could not have said it better myself!..

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

you took way to long borg drones you should have had it disarmed before it could detonate I mean seriously🤣🤣

[@firnenlegacy]

That drone when he was opening up the torpedo: "Hm...I wonder what those red lights are flashing for..." [cocks head in interest]

[@agentinsidious7605]

It was modified so that the borg didn't know how to disarm it. It was confusion

[@felipepineda1585]

Reminded me when dogs turn their head when you talk to them, just much less cuter

[@alexrose9388]

"Break off your pursuit or we'll open fire" "Irelevant..." "Is it?" It wasn't

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

well this is why the Borg suck they cannot adapt to their own over reacting high horse superiority which this clips show how the Borg end up biting more then they can chew with the loss of this probe a valuable set of resources and yet all lost and for what what did they hope to gain from it talk about such an inefficient waste of power and resources to get nothing for the risk if it was millions of stable Omega particles maybe but Voyager like common is that really worth the risk specially when they got taken out so quickly and easily

[@specialandroid1603]

i married a borg but she was too single minded for me

[@kenp7814]

If you wish to implant you must assimilate

[@worcesterbellringingperson7513]

“The Borg do not reproduce in this fashion”

[@GenjiShimada.]

@@kenp7814 lol!

[@wazza33racer]

what do you think happens at Mecca every year? Thousands of mindless drones , circle around a large black cube. Think about that.

[@obefitness9911]

Bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stocktonheath]

Such a class opening sequence, especially with the Borg's opening line, chills.

[@Troubleshooter125]

Moral: You don't track mud on Superman's cape. You don't spit into the wind. You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger, And you don't ever ... EVER ... mess with Janeway!

[@jasonsylvander3089]

Troubleshooter125 ahhh gravediggaz

[@beawild7792]

Borg Queen: Note to self, don't mess with Janeway when she has ran out of coffee.

[@The_Goose2]

Note to us*

[@UGNAvalon]

“We are Borg. We have adapted. Executing psychological technique assimilated from Species 1337. Execute: Hello. We are the Borg. Join the Collective. We have coffee.”

[@ryang2573]

Man, an opening like this could have been so cool if only they thought things through. It was a perfect opportunity to peak into the hivemind, to see how efficiently everything functioned, to get a glimpse of how risibly outmatched Voyager was compared to the Borg. Imagine this for a cold opening. There is what seems like green-tinted static on the screen. The only sounds the viewer hears are a low monotonous hum from countless voices speaking in unison. Then the camera starts zooming in the bottom left hand corner of the screen.The individual pixels making up the static resolve into hundreds of ships being engage all around Borg space. The monotonous hum thins out and individual, disjointed commands can be heard. The camera zooms in further and focuses in one ship. Finally voyager comes into view. The audio becomes clear and simple commands can be heard: "Federation vessel Voyager detected in sector x,y,z. Intercept. Neutralize. Assimilate." Instead what we see are drones leisurely moving about and relying on what looks like a tactile interface (that isn't even currently 'manned'!) to identify the ship they're pursing. It's one of the reasons that the Borg lost so much of their mystique from TNG. Every time you saw the inside of a Borg ship in TNG, you got the impression that you were looking a tiny portion of some unimaginably larger machine. Every time you saw the inside of a Borg ship in Voyager, it was like watching a bunch of High School employees shuffle around a theme park, reluctantly doing their jobs.

[@smthone]

One thing to remember is that Seven of nine would have modified Voyager's weapons and shields for better defence against the borg. Without her, Voyager would be a much easier target even for a Probe

[@2cwldys701]

True, in some Normal Star Trek scenes, and also video games. The Intrepid classes are weak af. nothing for Janeway to stand for; especially for a major promotion in the delta quadrant.

[@ZephWraen]

@@2cwldys701 I'm guessing that's more of a gameplay balance thing. Even before all the mods they made to Voyager, the Intrepid class was one of the toughest ships in the fleet at the time.

[@2cwldys701]

@@ZephWraen Agreed

[@Bojan_V]

Irrelevant

[@TKDMaze92]

Actually an Intrepid Class has a more heavy armament than a Galaxy Class.

[@Slowshyy]

Probably one of the best intros to an episode i've seen.

[@xineohpinakc264]

I like that we get an idea somewhat about how powerful Voyager actually was against the borg. Janeway says they can match the firepower of a borg probe about the same size as voyager. Every other encounter was either trickery, stealth (same tactics as TNG) or luck (The Drone). There is even one episode where the Queen says she wanted 7 on Voyager and left her there in the first place to learn about humanity. Voyager however did not outright beat any borg vessel. Even this probe is destroyed by beaming a torpedo onboard. They got better at defense due to the Intrepid being more advanced, One modifications(the Drone), 7 modifications, and the Hansons (7's parents) who evaded the borg for some time while studying them. Voyager retrieved all of the Hanson's research.

[@Sovereign01]

The Borg assimilated the Hansens and their research, including the bio-dampeners they had used to infiltrate Borg ships without detection.

[@gijoel]

Janeway: "You were only suppose to blow the bloody doors off."

[@Collin857]

That expression of that Borg working on the torp, priceless 😂

[@robjackson5245]

The Borg were more cinema-pretty in "Voyager" and even in "First Contact." In "TNG" they were more gritty.

[@MicrosoftPaintOfficial]

Agreed

[@Sovereign01]

The drone makeup got noticeably better in FC and then Voyager compared to TNG, it went from plain solid grey to mottled.

[@robjackson5245]

@Dawson Davis no it was not scary. "TNG" Borg stomps the shit out of all subsequent TV appearances of them

[@mikeyc2110]

It's was a budget thing, they always wanted the borg to look the way they do in first contact and voyager but the budget for tng didn't allow it so when first contact happen they did what they wanted and then recycled it for voyager

[@robjackson5245]

@@mikeyc2110 bullshit. "TNG" Borg were meant to always be like that

[@TheStateOfEarth]

1:29 Collective: "regenerate primary shied matrix, remodulate weapons" Drone thinks to himself "ah here is the one button that... efficient" :P

[@robjackson5245]

A lot of people say the Borg "Voyager" and later are not creepy, but I must say I'm pleasantly surprised. They do come off as menacing even here.

[@thundercrrp9931]

I thinkt hey were a little bit less mencaing but that was a good thing for me because it meant I didn't have nightmares for a week after every borg episode

[@WatchThis-ek2og]

They come off as cartoon villains here.

[@robjackson5245]

@WatchThis-ek2og I agree but they were, in a rare way, scary here lol

[@RamekGreen]

1:50 I love the one borg sleeping in his alcove during the battle

[@TheDutchGhost]

Indeed, I was about to bring that up before I saw your posts. Borg vessels are basically extensions of the Collective, there is no need to manual operate systems as they are tied into the Collective.

[@Jec88N]

Voyager did a lot of modifications to their ship, shield, and weapons to try and get home. Integrating Borg Tech with their Tech to survive. The regular federation ship in Alpha never did that because they never thought of it. They had ships they could call on where Voyager did not they had to learn to survive on their own.

[@firnenlegacy]

+Jonathen Locke My theory is that if the Borg couldn't assimilate Voyager directly and quickly, then they would have to do it indirectly and slowly. Voyager used Borg Tech, and they used it more and more and more...so the Borg, in a way, WERE slowly assimilating them.

[@JesseBusman1996]

@@firnenlegacy I agree, but this is the case in general. If the borg beat you, you become borg. If you beat the borg, you've advanced yourselves towards perfection. Resistance is futile.

[@firnenlegacy]

@@JesseBusman1996 Oh, rofl this was two years ago. I think what I was trying to say was that Voyager still made use of plenty of Borg technology (the Delta Flyer, for example) and that some of their developments were too good to resist. But I agree with the general case as well.

[@GuyWithBadHair]

I never understood why the Borg need to make manual inputs with buttons and whatnot. Wouldn't the ship itself just be connected to the hive mind? They also don't need such a large crew compliment on board either for this same reason...

[@xJacobxHM]

To control anything you have to have boots on the ground...

[@gatedude07]

You are partly correct. However, some of the primary systems still use manual controls for security reasons. It's basically anti-hacking security. Though I think the large crew is mostly there to facilitate the rapid assimilation of entire populations.

[@orangeflame568]

I also kind of wonder that. They are sending instructions using technology on the ship to be received by implants connected to drone's brains, and the instructions are to input an instruction into a machine on their vessel, the same vessel which sent out the instruction to the drone. Why not cut out the middle drone and transmit the message from the hive mind controller thing, to the machine on the vessel instead?

[@s0nnyburnett]

More over why do they need flashing lights to know something is wrong? Do the borg have OSHA approve gear?

[@2cwldys701]

s0nnyburnett The lights flash on their body because each drone has flashling lights, the hive mind senses something wrong and i guess it triggers red lights?, I mean why even bring it up.

[@KiwiKugai]

"Your only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!!"

[@pingpongpung]

*You're

[@leighrate]

Detonation upon completion of transport would be a lot smarter.

[@leighrate]

Wouldn't rematerialise. The signal would just scatter. Also, even the Borg are subject to the physical limits of the universe and it's for damn certain that my shield's are going to be back up.

[@andreww1212]

I wish I can remain as calm and collected like the Borg after a photon torpedo has been beamed onto the ship.

[@Lordgeorge16]

I've been looking everywhere for the intro to Dark Frontier! Thanks so much for uploading it. :D

[@jonathaneardley8570]

I guess beaming bombs into enemy vessels can work if you can surprise them. At least I think so

[@Hylander27]

or at lest next to an enemy vessels

[@raideurng2508]

Aka the Transporter Bomb. An actual tactic in a few of the old ST games. Along with beaming mines directly on top of enemy ships.

[@stephenmcdowall4428]

Even after all this time this still gives me chills everytime i see this episode...

[@vonarroberts]

@MrKellG if you watch the video it is obvious that the shields were damaged in the phaser exchange between Voyager and the Probe badly enough to allow for Voyager to beam onboard a torpedo. This is backed up by the statement "Regenerate primary shied matrix" just before the Photon Torpedo was beamed onboard indicating that the USS Voyager had done enough damage to the ship to knock out it's shield capacity in some form.

[@FurryAminal]

What about, you know, just beaming it back off your ship again....?

[@Aprion]

Once a photon torpedo has been armed, attempting to beam it away will actually set it off.

[@TsutomuTomutsu]

Aprion Not if you establish a secondary subspace confinement field to keep the pattern buffer in transphasic equilibrium within the projection matrix. Surely the Borg had the rudimentary technology to accomplish this.

[@WarhammerWings]

Aprion Nuts!

[@bulletcat139]

+FurryAminal Borg are adaptable.. but also pretty regimented about how they go about it, they may be capable of altering themselves to the dynamic of the scenario, but once they decide on a particular method of adaptation, altering it's base parameters is.. let's leave it at 'Difficult'.

[@Sovereign01]

Voyager probably equipped the torpedo with a transport inhibitor rigged to activate upon completion. They could have also taken out the probe's transporters along with the shields.

[@Imperialistic82]

I wished the writers would let the Borg have other different type of weapons that are not know of any species in the Alpha Quadrant. Like a beam that could destroy a entire planet or bombs that releases nanites into the air and assimilated people into Borgs. How Cubes can regenerate themselves like we saw in Q Who, but this time we see how it happens. Also showed us more of other unicomplex, maybe some oribiting around small stars, like the transwarp hub only more covered. Like a mini-Dyson Sphere lol That would make the Borg a early stage of type 3 civilization, since they can harness power from a star and do intergalactic travelling. Maybe they could build their own artificial moons like the Death Star.

[@Armann_]

Budget.

[@dariusgreysun]

Nobody wants star wars trek lol

[@WatchThis-ek2og]

When the Enterprise first scanned a Borg Cube it had no weapons of any kind on it, instead the tractor beams disabled ships shields, weapons, and engines allowing drones to beam aboard. It was equipped with a cutter beam though. The point was that the Borg don't blow up ships they defeat them by assimilating them and scrapping them for parts. That changed on Voyager to the Borg using weapons like any other ship. I like the assimilation only version better than Voyagers version, it's creepier.

[@dabosh78]

​@@dariusgreysun except Kurtzman

[@rkmugen]

This was the most inventive type of attack I've ever seen in any incarnation of Star Trek. The 2nd one (in my opinion) would be the introduction of the Federation TR-116 sniper rifle in DS9. (Firing a bullet from several bulkheads away from a target, beaming the fired bullet to appear just inches in front of the target (yet remaining its trajectory and momentum), and impaling the target/victim. Gruesome, yes, but still ingenious.

[@Steven5812]

2:01 That drone was like: DAMN, I shouldn't have skipped "Disarming Starfleet Photon Torpedoes" Class at Drone School. :0

[@PhilDenton]

I hate getting older. On one hand I like turning my brain off and enjoying Star Trek for what it is. On the other, I can't help asking my self questions like "if the Borg are advanced enough to have a hive mind linking ALL of them together across subspace, why are their ships so archaic that they still press physical buttons to operate it?"

[@ShadowSonic2]

He was accessing the Collective mind, which would input commands into the other drones to go to those systems and do that stuff. They were able to open up panels to see the Borg babies in the first Borg episode, and they were able to open up the panel that contained Picard's uniform in BOBW. That shows interface panel technology.

[@SardonicALLY]

They were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!!

[@lindstromstone7535]

Love the music in this! Wish they released it.

[@mikeyc2110]

My wife: the cybermen voices from doctor who are creepy Me: (plays this clip to her)

[@Sovereign01]

@miloootic Well the Borg said "Regenerate primary shield matrix", at which point the torpedo was beamed in. Most likely Voyager found a way to beam through their own shields but not anyone else's.

[@andrewlowe693]

There should have been an outtake to this where Janeway turns to Tuvok and in her best Michael Caine accent shouts "you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"

[@MichaelBradley1967]

In Star Fleet Battles, this was called a T-Bomb (transporter bomb). It was pretty effective there too.

[@CoyoteSeven]

I kinda liked the Stargate version more, where they'd beam a nuke in the heart of the ship.

[@HellsRaven4444]

A photon torpedo is an antimatter warhead so...

[@MarkJones-by6xv]

Never understood why they didn't just beam the nuke right outside the hull in SGA when the wraith enacted countermeasures. Nuclear warheads were proven to be effective even if they hit the outside of the hull, it just was too hard for any to make it past the dart fighter screen to be effective with traditional delivery methods.

[@MarkJones-by6xv]

HellsRaven4444 nope, they only say that they were jammed from beaming on board the ship

[@HellsRaven4444]

Mark Jones replying to the wrong person

[@thomasmatthewharris1980]

Borg "oh crap!!"

[@HMDerek4]

Nice upload. Love those ominous beginnings! I'm wondering. What episode in particular would name where Voyager makes the Borg look weak?

[@jamesmasztalerz5930]

"A vessel has been detected, unimatrix 242, grid 116, activate"

[@SL16867]

Like ShadowSonic2 said, Borg implants can obscure a drone's species. But also due to budgetary reasons, the producers generally don't show drones that are distinctly not human. Keep in mind that the galaxy is filled with humanoid species that are not outwardly distinguishable from humans. However, there has been a Klingon drone whose head ridges were visible on the show.

[@kevlonk]

I agree with the original poster, the Borg were terrifying in TNG. Voyager, on the other hand, made them a lot less threatening by having one solitary Federation starship stomp them on a regular basis.

[@Atowntrekkie]

Interesting. Now I need to watch this episode (I haven't yet seen this one, though Voyager is one of my favorites).

[@senatus]

As FederationStarfleet alluded to, after destroying this ship, Janeway boasted something to the effect that "perhaps the Borg will think twice about attacking us again." Chakotay quickly corrected her and said, "It was just a 'probe'."

[@baskkev7459]

yup.its a probe. and if you go online to memory alpha. or just google it, or play star trek armada 2. probe is a single rectangle like this. a assimilator is 2 rectangles with a central part.

[@ShadowSonic2]

The Borg in TNG were on super-powerful Cubes, this was a tiny scout probe that wouldn't have 1/10th the power of the TNG Borg Cube. It has reduced adaptive powers and stuff.

[@germanicelt]

Wow, this was uploaded over 7 years ago and I'm only just seeing this episode now.

[@ganados0]

That Probe just assimilated a family shuttle a day before, one mother and three fathers already drones stored in alcoves and seven children in maturation chambers on the probe until relocation and reassignment. Voyager wiped out a bloodline.

[@senatus]

Since it was just a manned probe, I file this under the "doesn't make the Borg look weak" category :)

[@champFichtnerBourne]

Awesome : D

[@lovipoekimo176]

The thing that bothered me so much is that why would the Borg need an alarm klaxon thingy?

[@dcdrew3]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@2cwldys701]

True, because the borg have sensors put into their drone bodies that alert of any lifeforms that reaches far as 2 systems away of other species or objects, so why have a alarm. and plus if it is a armed bomb, why not let the borg drone standing closest to it disarm it no matter if it was a engineering drone. they have the technology.

[@Ambarenya13]

To trigger drone defense mechanisms through audio-visual stimuli.

[@bulletcat139]

+Lovi Poekimo "Remember, they've already assimilated one starfleet officer, maybe this is his influence." --Star Trek: Borg, anonymous lieutenant pointing out a console on a borg cube, which stood out from the implant-interfaces. As they assimialte races, they adapt, sometimes in seemingly the most impractical of ways, i know a klaxon may seem unnessecary, but..

[@TheCombatEditor62]

2:00 that Borg drone be like: there are no wires on this thing! what am I supposed to cut?

[@Hyperion1012]

Borg response: Oh look they beamed a bomb on board, let's walk slowly towards it and stare. Maybe it'll go away.

[@BThietje]

Apparently that drone didn't understand that 'dis-arm weapon' didn't mean stand there and stare at it until it went off.

[@robinhodson9890]

That's a new ploy: Teleport a torpedo onboard another ship.

[@stevehugill865]

Captain Janeway is total badass.

[@Taospark]

Glad someone figured out that if the Borg don't have shields, you can just teleport bombs over instead of an Away Team.

[@80smusicfanNO1]

@Defiant47 They didn't keep track of the number of crewmembers aboard - it went up and down, and the premise was more than just "getting home", it was about being alone/away from support/with two crews that have to work together despite differences. I enjoyed the show but there's no point in denying its flaws.

[@catablu]

AWESOME!!

[@ShadowSonic2]

@80smusicfanNO1 It was Gilligan's Island because they were never going to find a way home until the series finale, and always moving meant they'd never stay in one play to ever flesh anything/anyplace/any new enemies out properly. And exploring "new things" would just make viewers angrier because it took away from them always moving on their way back to Earth. So they couldn't flesh anything out, and they couldn't explore properly, all because of the premise.

[@MentalMickey999]

..."you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off"....😃😃😃

[@jimhuffman9434]

Disarm weapon, but take your time. It's not like the torpedo is armed

[@cloudinfinity]

This was a cool episode

[@davidvincent6438]

Sound in space never gets old.

[@Somtaaw7]

@1ownjoo2 Plus its Janeway. "Knock down shields, beam cooked photon torpedo on board, ???, Pro-Victory."

[@BygPhattyPlus]

It's funny how the Borg had a bad look on his face when the bomb went off. They weren't expecting THAT plan!

[@ExtremeFaithInJesus]

@CaitiVoltaire There definitely was in the episode, "Year of Hell".

[@TKDMaze92]

I wish, beaming torpedos at other ships would be a skill in Star Trek Online

[@Darlf_Sevil]

New Generation: oh no borg we are doomed. Voager: borg on sensors, get ready for the hunt picard: men who fear borg Jen: women who kill fear... and the borg :p

[@uchihajoshkkun]

“Starfleet photo torpedo... transport back into space”

[@Salence]

Well, by this time, Voyager have been preparing and creating strategies to fight the Borg for years. Decades if you include the time Voyager wasn't sent across the galaxy. And the Borg were not expecting them, nor preparing, or even considered them a threat. They barely even send anything after them. It's like how you don't dedicate all your effort to kill a fly that has entered your house. They have other things to do.

[@LandersWorkshop]

Not only that, since they are in the Borg heartlands so to speak, the Borg there are probably not hardened frontier cubes but just run-of-the-mill ships Borging about aimlessly.

[@Sintar07]

I would point out to both of you that in TNG, the crew of the Enterprise successfully introduced the concept of individuality to the Borg through Hugh. This caused startling alterations to the collective and is likely indirectly responsible for the less efficient and more sinister Borg that we see by the time of Voyager.

[@retromillenium]

This scene creeps me out every time I see it.

[@randomface54]

The Borg have learned a valuble lesson. If your going to fuck with the Federation, try to avoid ships captained by a Federation experiment to create the single most badass entity in the entire universe (a very successful experiment at that).

[@tech83studio38]

I love Jay Chattaway's Borg Theme in this episode.

[@misteryman526]

Why do Borg even HAVE display panels on their ship? As I understand it the Borg ship itself is as much a part of the Collective as the individual Borg are, so shouldn't the Drones just 'know' what the ship's sensors are detecting?

[@BuzzKirill3D]

Why even have semi-organic Drones, just go full robotic/AI

[@firnenlegacy]

+MiSt 526 Well, Borg don't stay on one ship forever...

[@misteryman526]

@Robert Snow ??? I don't see your point. I was saying that control panels should be superfluous to the Borg. They should either just 'know' what is happening through their link to the Collective or they could 'jack in' to the ship's systems with their nanoprobe-tube thingies like One (the futuristic Borg made from The Doctor's mobile emitter) did when he interfaced with the Voyager's tactical console. For beings that routinely graft tools into their own bodies, poking at touch screens to control equipment is just silly.

[@firnenlegacy]

+MiSt 526 Huh. Maybe you're right, never mind.

[@misteryman526]

Huh. Well that might be a good explanation if the Borg didn't regularly allow everyone to just transport over and wander about the place.

[@LordSiravant]

(cont'd) with advanced technology specifically designed to repel Borg attacks, and Unimatrix Zero, which was only a distraction to get some crew members on board, as Voyager was not trying to destroy the Borg ship. The Borg are not weak; Starfleet just figured out how to exploit the few weaknesses they have. We're badass like that.

[@uchihajoshkkun]

“Starfleet photon torpedo... disarm weapon... psyche!!! Beam weapon back into space! Even better, beam as close to Voyager as possible”

[@harvestercommander3250]

I bet the collective at that very last second was like: oh son of a B....

[@BradTroika]

Memory alpha describes it as a Borg Probe. Interestingly (YMMV) in Star Trek: Armada 2 there is a ship called the Borg Assimilator that is the same model as the rogue Borg ship from TNG Descent

[@Hutch5321]

With all those sparking electrical problems, apparently the Borg assimilated the guy who designed all the Federation bridge consoles.

[@danielhausser8038]

Nice of Voyager that they put the torpedo on some pedestal so that Borg did not have to kneel. The Borg could have dematerialized that torpedo and deleted the pattern buffer.

[@ShadowSonic2]

Yes, it's just that the Borg conversions turn the skin grey and since most Trek aliens are the rubber forehead types the borg implants make it harder to tell unless we get close up looks at them.

[@hot2warm]

A lot of people seem to hate how the Borg were weakened. I guess they producers had to weaken them because in their original configuration, and potential, they would have cake-walked the Federation and assimilated them.

[@BrigadierBill]

hot2warm This isn't so much a problem with how they perceived the Borg though as a general problem with Voyager: the enemies in Voyager are designed to fit their role in a story rather than to be as capable as they were established as being, which kills any sense of consistency. You don't fear the Borg anymore because you know Voyager can beat them reliably even if it's a challenge. It's fine to not have a problem with this but usually people don't really care about a story if it doesn't work with the setting that's established for it. The Borg weren't the most advanced race encountered in TNG (everything from living warships to Q to aliens who can suffocate the whole Enterprise crew by pressing a button) but they were the classic threat because of how they were established. Now for the rant: The writers for Voyager took a race that never had many ships in TNG and gave them vast armadas, First Contact turned their drones into unstoppable zombies that only a handful of could easily take over ships, then they gave the Borg who originally relied on Warp technologies like Transwarp that should have turned a technologically-superior race like the Borg into juggernauts. Simultaneously, whereas a Cube in one battle after taking a pounding from a Galaxy-class, wandered over to every ship the Federation had between it and Earth along with supposedly a few Klingon ships, and obliterated them. They were very deliberate also in TNG, where they used the tractor beam to disable and cripple one ship, then they sawed it apart with the cutting beam or alternatively used the disruptor to take down shields before using their cutting beam on the warp core. Suddenly in Voyager, their weapons are pathetic and do minimal damage (rather than a few shots being able to blast apart a vessel; suddenly facing 2 ships is too much for a tactical cube to handle even though a heavily-damaged cube in first contact was still fighting 40 ships at once). They took out the unique weapons they had (cutting beam becomes the same as the phaser on a Klingon Vor'cha, and their disruptor gets replaced by big radioactive torpedoes; neither of these is specialized or deliberate, instead being the same old tech that every other race uses, while the tractor beam is no longer a game-changing weapon that is able to kill shields by itself). They both dumbed down their capabilities and dumbed-down their apparent intelligence to the point of suggesting that rather than the Borg capacity to adapt being an advantage, it was actually a crutch and otherwise they couldn't think at all.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@80smusicfanNO1 No, it did constrain them too much. It was the space version of "Gilligan's Island", a premise only good for 1 season at most.

[@80smusicfanNO1]

@Defiant47 And yes, the purpose was to go home. But the show was sold on the premise that it wouldn't be like TNG because it was a ship alone struggling on the other side of the universe. What did we get? A ship with seemingly limitless supplies, shuttles and torpedoes, and they even managed to keep the holodeck running! Oh and the Maquis were all in Starfleet uniform by the end of the first episode. Pretty ridiculous! Voyager failed in its premise, it only succeeded in being a TNG clone.

[@himvalo666]

@miloootic So then during a major battle with a Borg ship, Voyager dropped their shields so they could beam out? The second they dropped their shields to beam in, The Borg would have done major damage or even beamed away teams of their own to assimilate Voyager

[@KingTiggerTank]

What is with the flashing lights? Love this seen as well.

[@delta5297]

The Borg have transporters don't they? Just transport the thing back out into space.

[@Ama-hi5kn]

Borg logic seems like it's not always the same as having a perception of common sense. Not sure if the bliions or so of voices in their heads cloud their mind or either that or they are way too self confident.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@80smusicfanNO1 Which is part of how the premise constrained the show. They should've never mentioned how big the crew was so no one would question things like that.

[@Foxtrop13]

the old trick of the teletransported nuke, fucking the badguys since the first stargate movie

[@KiwiKugai]

They probably would have if one had been in range. I get the feeling that that Borg Probe ran into Voyager while on routine patrol.

[@Cerulean0987]

To be fair, Voyager has had many modifications to it's systems while in the Delta Quadrant, something atypical of Starfleet vessels.