Bosch Compact Sabre Saws! GSA 18V-Li C & GSA 10.8V-Li

Bosch has brought two new compact sabre saws to the market! Much like the Milwaukee Hackzall, these reciprocating saws are made to be used single-handed. Both the 10.8V and 18V products have their place, but which will suit you better?
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[@BudiArsana]

I just want to say thank you for your review. The comparison between hand saw and bosch on timber help me maintain my expectation.

[@OZToolTalk]

Glad I could help

[@HoosierRallyMaster]

I found this saw to be indispensable when removing a row of ancient yew bushes. The roots are too tight to get at with my Japanese pruning saw (no room for the stroke without bumping into another root.) But with the short stroke of the 10.8V I could get through the morass. Still a lot of work on the dense wood. On a hot day by the time I ran through two battery packs, it was time for an iced tea break :) Several makers are now offering curved pruning blades for the reciprocating saws.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] great feedback thanks mate

[@gussoid]

it takes long to cuy wood because you are not using the right blade. the hand saw has the right tooth for the job!. thank you for the video. I really appreciate the work you put on it!

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] There are more aggressive blades out there for sure, but you don't ALWAYS want the most aggressive cut you can make ;) These were just the ones provided by Bosch for the review.

[@johnstrudwick5099]

Great review and advice really helped me decide on which saw to pick.

[@OZToolTalk]

fantastic :D cheers

[@ryancarmichael1195]

10.8 is a great bit of kit for cutting notches in joists for pipes and cables. Allows you to get a flat cut in the joist as the body fits inbetween the joists so it only takes 1 good whack with the hammer and chisel to remove the noggin.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] very cool. great feedback.

[@johndn9238]

Great video, just what I needed in trying to decide which of these options is likely to be best for my use. (Often cutting through solid bar - looks like the 18v is the answer). Many thanks.

[@OZToolTalk]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ReticentArc]

Had the 10.8v saw for 3 years now and it is still going strong. A really handy unit it has got me out of a few tight spots (sometimes literally). If you are a sparky or plumber then you really should get one, as long as you understand its limitations as well as its strengths.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] which 10.8V version do you have? DEwalt/Makita? I always say that if you can do the same work with another tool, always choose the other tool. But if you need one, there's no replacement...

[@ReticentArc]

Bosch blue for me all the way ;) too invested in the system now! The 10.8v range just gets better and better, absolutely my go to option unless I have to. I loved the big 18v range review you guys did a while back, any plans to do the same with the 10.8v range from the big 5?

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] no, no immediate plans. we don't really do a heap of 10.8V, so don't really feel that qualified to do so! I thought the 10.8V Bosch sabre only came out recently? How have you had it for 3 years?

[@ReticentArc]

It has been available in the UK for a good while now, since 2011 I think is when I first saw it. I don't know if they have released a newer version version recently but it looks identical to mine. Not sure why they would update it unless it was to release a brushless version.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] wow, I didn't think it had been out that long, even in the UK. wonder why it took so long to hit Aus shores...

[@terrygoyan]

"Great tool to get out of jail"! Love it.

[@OZToolTalk]

haha.

[@lihihongan5289]

That,s savage...lol!

[@denisrhodes54]

you only mentioned the best use, pruning. very handy with a 5tpi pruning blade. great to supplement a chainsaw for the small cuts.

[@Cautious_Cuz]

regarding cut speed i find it to be night and day depending on the blade used. Any carbide blade tends to be more agressive tooth structure and cuts quicker. Absolutely transforms a recip.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] blades are everything! I take a good blade on a crap tool over a crap blade on a good tool, any day.

[@ron1martens]

Great tool review. I do have the 18 volt and 10 volt bosch tools. The recipro saw for one handed use will be useful.

[@ashtonlowe6761]

i have the milwaukee versions of these great for pvc work. these bosch saws look nice

[@gerardbonus5354]

They are still demolitions tools IMO. I have the cheap Aldi 10.8 v that looks exactly like the Bosch ~ used correctly it has been amazing around the house and pruning too, yes, they all need more refinement for pruning, but they are close! Great review, many thanks.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] yeah still most used for demo work. but as notes, good for pruning and pipe cutting as well.

[@JonathanSterlingUSA]

trying to find the Bosch reciprocating saw comparison video where the guy bogs down the pocket version ... help

[@littlesarahautism9787]

thank you

[@BoschProfessionalUK]

Great review guys! Keep up the good work!

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] cheers!

[@ITubeTooInc]

You can mount the blade reversed like shown in this 5 year old review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/np3WpoOolKiBpbsm31s This way you don't have to awkwardly hold the tool upside down when cutting from below, and you will get a much more comfortable and safer grip. For copper pipe I think you can use a coarser blade than for steel for quicker cutting. It looks like they do this in the video I linked to, where they seem to cut through copper pipe faster than you did.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] unfortunately I can't watch that video, mustn't be available to Aus viewers. But if you're right about the blade flipping, then I totally missed it. I should have checked because my old Dewalt could do it.

[@reginaldcapistrano536]

This tool better for cutting metal but in wood its better hand saw.

[@mhmorlock5186]

good review as always love my m12 version use it for plumbing always.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] cheers Mh! very handy for plumbers.

[@mikecoughlin3222]

blades make a difference also.

[@OZToolTalk]

Huge!

[@richardrees1487]

Nice video keep up the good work

[@wakawaka12320]

sweet as look forward to it

[@kolbalio7856]

Great review! I’m in the market for a 12v recip saw for my work as a maintenance manager so plumbing/electrical/small repairs etc. I have both Bosch 12v and Milwaukee M12 batteries so how does this Bosch GSA 10.8v compare to the Milwaukee M12 fuel 12v? The Bosch looks smaller but way more power on the Milwaukee? Thanks!

[@lebon2002be]

Hi there, thanks for the video. I have a question for you: This saw doesn't have a brushshless motor (EC motor). What about the lifespan of a motor with brushes? What do you think?

[@OZToolTalk]

I think there's no reason for a brushed motor not to have a long long life, especially from Bosch :)

[@lebon2002be]

@@OZToolTalk Thank you for the reply. :-)

[@nigusgenet6906]

good used to cut veneers fine

[@markozsky]

1.Can use longer blade on that smaller GSA?Are they compatible with other blade brand 2.planning to give my older cousin to cut bamboo.suitable?how do you think?

[@OZToolTalk]

1. yes. 2. for general usage, i would suggest the 18v unit.

[@kmohanbabu8845]

From Indiana

[@wahidinusulu5897]

paling panjang mata gergajinya yang bisa dipakai untuk GSA 10.8V-Li?

[@thelepder1297]

Wahidin Usul,bang mau nanya kalo di Indonesia di mana yang jual yah..

[@suharisu2289]

Harga berapa...??

[@vinceking7878]

Did you use a metal blade. Is there a DIY version of this?

[@TwinDrachen]

Can you make a review of the ( GSA 12v-14 Li-Lon ) I just got it and I found it super useful .

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] it's the same as this one I reviewed. GSA 10.8V-Li = GSA 12V-14

[@ornaleescobar861]

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[@caterpillar5574]

Nice review they do look good and cut through pipe good but they are absolutely awful at cutting wood I think I would stick with q regular corded makita sawzall but it can't get into tight spaces but has incredible power :)

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] yeah they're not the best cutters of structural timber. but great for branches or moulding sizes.

[@S14AA]

Need a bosch professional 18v chainsaw or compatibility with there green tools

[@justindavis8102]

I own this 18v recip saw. With a dedicated demolition wood only blade it cuts through anything with absolute ease. Same with metal, use a dedicated blade and it's like a hot knife in butter. Diablo make great blades, the ones that come with this saw I found were rubbish.

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] yeah it's nice for sure. Really, i usually find Bosch blades and bits to be high quality. But yeah certainly not up to Diablo or Lennox standard.

[@DJFalkoHannover]

Mate...do you have a link to better blades? Cheers!

[@justindavis8102]

www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/tools/tool-accessories/power-saw-blade-accessories/reciprocating-saw-blades

[@peter7998]

What's the difference between the GSA18V-083B and GSA18V-LI C? Does anyone know?

[@OZToolTalk]

is 083 the Americans model number? Looks the same...

[@NAZZDigiTech]

Price please

[@mohdfarouk6558]

Hello bro,, is that GSA 10.8V LI can use battery 12 Volt?? is the size of both battery are the same enough to fit in the battery slot? Other question,, if that 12V battery fit into that battery slot,, is there any possibility can cause effect on the sabre saw motor?? im worried it will damage the motor huhu... *Sorry For the BAD english* hahaha

[@JanChristensenBraar]

You can use both 10.8V and 12V batteries. The whole marked (Bosch, Dewalt, Stanley etc) just recently changed battery definitions from 10.8V to 12V as a gimmick, there is no actual difference. Keep on cutting!

[@cacomcacom3241]

How much?

[@vladankulezic2381]

Gde mogu da se naruče ove mašine !!!.

[@teeg3275]

Huh looks a little familiar maybe Milwaukee?? Maybe Bosch??

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] yep it's certainly based on Milwaukee's 'hackzall'.

[@wakawaka12320]

how do ya compare this 2 Milwaukees hackzalls mate ? looking to get one or the other

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] I've got a comparison coming up in a week or two.

[@adingsudiana320]

Bandung.toko.apa.jalan.apa.?

[@jed6rar]

I have the 10.8 love it needs a belt clip but

[@OZToolTalk]

(Mike) I'd have to agree, ALL cordless I believe should have belt hooks.

[@lihihongan5289]

Funny they all have same design...I ve both Milwaukee version and Chinese copy Makita version

[@jhoc2x2]

Can it cut rebar?

[@OZToolTalk]

sure, but a reciprocating saw is probably not the best tool for it, especially if the rebar isn't heavy/fixed.

[@nguyenhuunghia620]

5:37, 6:06

[@user-sj1lf4tc5x]

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[@kadesiebarnea6827]

Bosch Made in China or Made in German ???

[@joeframer9642]

Are you a builder ? I doesn't appear that you have much experience using tools,just reviewing them. ....

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] I'm a civil engineer, Mike is a maintenance guy. Neither of us is a tradie, but we both love tools, woodworking, building etc.

[@abdulabdul7641]

Hou mach this mission

[@ITubeTooInc]

Thanks for the review. You say both models are new, but Bosch has had the GSA 10.8V-LI on the market for more than 5 years now, at least here in Europe. So is this just new to the Australian market or have they made any changes to the original GSA 10.8V-LI and just kept the same model name, like they did with the new 18V drills? However GSA 18 V-LI C is unlike GSA 10.8V-LI a new model from Bosch. Here's a 5 year old UK dealer review of Bosch GSA 10.8V-LI: kzbin.info/www/bejne/np3WpoOolKiBpbs

[@OZToolTalk]

[Dwain] it is weird that we got it so much later than Europe.I couldn't tell you if its different. Maybe they just decided to launch the 10.8V here as they were launching the new compact 18V (GSA 18 Li C)...

[@OZToolTalk]

and i always choose recip blades based on material thickness. my dad taught me to try use a blade that maintains 2-3 teeth inside the wall/materiall thickness. I've never verified it, but it makes sense to me, and he's very good with metal.

[@monikafeher2155]

cffj

[@rick245100]

12 volts 👎

[@caramida2118]

If you don't know the difference between Amps and Amps-hour then go back to school before saying stupid things like more battery capacity (amps-hour) = more power!

[@OZToolTalk]

I've had this discussion with many people in the comments. I will summarise for you in case you want to improve your knowledge, but I won't argue on it because I'm sick of doing so. - Amp-hours to indeed represent the total power available and are therefore MORE about overall runtime than power - However more cells in the battery represents a high overall discharge capacity (instantaneous power). In essense, two layers of cells get to ADD their current as they are already both providing 18V. (note it doesn't actually quite double) - Not all tools take advantage of this extra power provided. But some do and it is NOTICEABLE. - I have spoken to multiple tool manufacturers on this and had it confirmed. - I've even seen different torque ratings on manufacturer websites when sold in different battery kits So no, I haven't said anything stupid. Your apology would be appreciated but hardly expected after doing this for 5.5 years now. [Dwain]

[@caramida2118]

@@OZToolTalk , your lack of basic knowledge is disappointing (and you call yourself a "reviewer"). Each tool has an Amp rating (it's the max amp that it is able to be drawn from the battery). It is what you call "instantaneous power" :). One identical tool has the same max "power" (because it has the same max amp rating and a voltage) no matter the battery cell capacity. On the other hand, a 5 Ahr battery can last 5 minutes on a tool and an hour on another one (depends on how much "power" each tool draws from the battery). What you are babbling about related to the number of battery cells has to do with VOLTAGE (not AMPS). Each cell can deliver 3.6v (4v at max charge for a short period of time). For a "12v" tool you need 3 cells to be able to provide that voltage (3*3.6 or 3*4 volts = 10.8 V / 12 V). Now Watt, which is the unit of measurement for energy ("powah", for your clueless reviewers) is Volt x Amps (NOT amp-hours). So NO. Amp-hours does NOT represent "the total power available". A tool rated at max 5 Amps running with a 12v battery has a max power of W=10.8 x 5 (or 12 * 5 when the battery is at full capacity). If that tool runs at max amperage of 5, then a 5 Ahr battery will last one hour. A 2.5 Ahr battery will last 30 minutes. Basic mathematics. To sum it up, not only you don't understand the difference between Amps and Amp-hours but you also confuse Volts and Amps! Really, go back to highschool!

[@caramida2118]

@@OZToolTalk , Also, do you know that a 12v battery has the same exact number of cells (3 to be more exact), no matter its capacity? A 12v 5 Ahr battery has bigger cells than a 2.5 Ahr (but there are still 3 cells). More cells = more voltage and more voltage directly impacts power, yes (if you skipped school, see my other comment about the power formula). But, more cells = higher VOLTAGE and NOT higher Ahr. Pff. The 18v batteries have 5 cells and Hilti's 22v batteries have 6 cells. If you don't believe me, open the battery packs and count the number of cells and do measurements (though I doubt you'll be able to do them correctly, no offense).