Boss Bass Baby - Boom Boom~ | Fatfreq x HBB Duece 2DD IEM ($239) | Hunt for the Best Basshead IEM

[@GearGeek666]

Great review. I must this is one of my very first blind purchases which turns out to be exciting. The Subass really hits that sweet spot whilst giving me that superior Treble clarity. Love every bit of it!!

[@bentobox3140]

Nice review. I think some people are asking too much from the Deuce. It's a $299 set. It cannot outperform a $500 and up set. For me, it performs like a Kato/Performer 5 priced iem that is just tuned completely for sub-bass. If you treat it as such, a sub-bass, fun IEM. You'll have a far better experience with the Deuce. It's a great addition to round out a collection with a vastly different sound signature like S12 or S12 pro. I love mine. It's a foot tapping, fun listen. I carry 2 iems around with me if I'm studying or going on a night shift. Pull Deuce out for fun, pull Kato out if I need to change genres.

[@EndChronos]

How is the 7hz legato compared to it?

[@Lymph8]

Have you tried the HBB Punch? If so how does that match up with the FatFreq Maestro mini

[@dawiddabrowski3279]

I have fiio btr7 dac, but this dac is weak for this iem, what dac do you recommended for this fatfreq

[@will2073]

not weak, balanced is 320 WM of power !

[@VoxVirtus86]

Fiio KA17 drives them no problem, and Fiio is releasing a BTR17 which is the KA17 with bluetooth. Should be out today or tomorrow.

[@dawiddabrowski3279]

@@will2073 300mv in btr7 is enough for duece, I need put fiio to max vol ( 60 ), when for example hype 4 sounds great at 44

[@XEROXTAKEBACKS]

I have the floor btr7 and it's perfect

[@ChrisMor.1]

@@VoxVirtus86when not in desktop mode and using 3.5 how much better is the btr17 over the btr7. I'm new to all this and maybe I'm not understanding the spec sheet

[@XEROXTAKEBACKS]

How well does the deuce compare to 7hz legato ?

[@GearGeek666]

@EndChronos @XEROXTAKEBACKS I owned 7Hz and now currently own the Deuce. Legato is only as good as it gets on a DAC/Amp. The legato bass sounds muffled without a DAC/Amp. The same cant be said for Deuce, although yes they are power hungry, their comparison is miles apart. Legato is bassy but not punchy. Deuce has massive punch enough to send shivers. Deuce treble to subass ratio is very surprising, interesting and exciting tbh. Makes you want to listen to DnB and hip-hop all day long. A tiny bit of EQ in mids and you pretty much play any genre on the Deuce. I would just say Legato is a good for its price point but you cant compare it to Deuce.

[@marcingarstecki7326]

Nice review 👌 I love mine set ❤ Still I had to wait for it 2.5 months 😮 And as I didn't had cash at Pre-Order lunch I did not get the metal puck. Also mine BONUS ear tips 😢 were not included. And upgrading to interchangeable 4.4mm like yours with puck was like 100$ more so out of a question ⁉️ for me 😅

[@BloOdYJo17]

I like it , i'ts loud and proud sometimes too much . I personnaly prefer the MEXT for bass

[@nekrozclockwork]

I just tried the maestro mini recently and thought it was magic, I'll wait until the orders normalize a bit but im definitely getting the deuce one day

[@rnarexperience]

If you have a chance to try the Grand Maestro - that'll blow your socks off, but the price tag will make your eyes pop out of their socket

[@nekrozclockwork]

@@rnarexperience I did try the grand maestro but I didn't find it that amazing, it was great don't get me wrong, but something about it didn't gel with me right, and the form factor was atrocious, they are way to big and heavy for my ears

[@rnarexperience]

Ahhh yeah the form is a little big and may be quite uncomfortable for some ears

[@Shahkhan-uz6xx]

how is the treble on deuce?is it too softened or pale in comparison to bass?

[@rnarexperience]

Not for me personally as I feel on the stock tuning, they brought down the mid bass so the treble performance are able to come through clearer but on the bass boost adapter then it does sound subdued because there's a lot more bass details taking over

[@joefilter2923]

Unfortunately, the little spike gets me. And I don’t think they stand up to amplification that well, at least on R6III. So it’s not awful like the previous hype of DMG, but I think super mix4 is better with a little EQ bass boost. Yeah I don’t think you get slam, which is so satisfying on Fiio ft1 closed backs.

[@GearGeek666]

The subass to treble ratiuo is very balanced. Surprising that an IEM with massive subass doesn't over power nor bleed into treble. If anything its exciting and cleverly tuned

[@blacktrain7048]

neutral with subbass boost. gr8 iems

[@rnarexperience]

Very nice if you like this kind of tuning

[@Ksn228]

The nozzle is literally 7mm wide which is crazy

[@rnarexperience]

Oh crap i didnt know that - yeah then it'll be another huge problem for smaller sized ears

[@ROCKSTAR3291]

anything larger than 6mm is bad design

[@catslover4745]

Great video thanks for the comparison of the scarlet and the minis.❤ Need to try them out during canjam

[@rnarexperience]

Try it with and without the bass boost, it's night and day difference. Thanks for watching!

[@Curry.N]

I know this is probably not a fair comparison, but how does it compare to your Maestro SE?

[@rnarexperience]

Maestro SE is simply on another level technically, it's already a level above the maestro mini and it goes DEEP but not as impactful in its slam and attack however still a lot more compared to the stock tuning of the Duece but the Duece with the adapter hits harder, but loses a bit more on its clarity so regardless you're getting a lot more from your SE, but the Duece for its price still does very well

[@gaspar19991]

How would they compare to other iems in the price range apart from the bass? Like vs the chopin, hype 4 or even cheaper sets like the sm4 or nova?

[@rnarexperience]

Unfortunately i dont have those sets to be able to comment, but if I'm bringing something a bit more expensive like the Davinci, Davinci sounds fuller on its stock tuning and has a bit more technical capabilities. Even the Kefine Delci has comparable levels of technical performance with the Duece but for slightly cheaper but the main highlight from the Duece is the fact you're getting all that bass with very little sacrifice from the other frequencies. Any other IEMs with this kinda tuning usually is lopsided on one end, or they try too hard to bring up the other frequencies to match that they just ruin the sound thats why i feel Duece takes all of them to school in that regard in terms of finding the right balance

[@joefilter2923]

I think the deuce sounds muffled on some songs, and the trouble doesn’t stand up to amplification. The adapter moves out the trouble but then you basically have HBB. KHAN.

[@guybrushtwood]

How long ago did you get your set?

[@rnarexperience]

I received my set last week, are you waiting on yours?

[@demometalico]

Mid bass is flat so that subbass can shine. I was a bit disappointed ngl

[@rnarexperience]

However that's where the bass boost adapter comes in

[@demometalico]

@@rnarexperience It did help the mid bass a bit, but still didnt quite hit the itch for me, especially songs that have a lot of drums or tactile bass tone. Because of the lack of mid bass punch, some songs that I listen to lack their usual oomph and sound more pillowy than I remembered.

[@rnarexperience]

Hmmm interesting, i might test out some more tracks with the bass boost adapter. Thanks for sharing your feedback and experience

[@demometalico]

@@rnarexperience some songs that I tested the deuce on were russian hard bass, metal, and electro swing jazz.

[@R-sn1ty]

​@@demometalicowhat are you powering them with? I've heard they hit harder with more juice 🤔

[@GoggiesAudioGear]

Are the switchable terminations standard? I thought they were a separate upgrade you had to purchase.

[@vianhoho19]

IIRC they're an early Pre-order bonus

[@ThrakazogZ]

They are a separate purchase. Also, only the first 150 orders got the round metal case. Everyone else gets a small zipper case that's just big enough to hold 3 pairs of ear tips, but you'll never be able to squeeze you IEM and cable into it. So if you need a case, plan on buying that separate as well. The Deuce does sound amazing. I'm enjoying it.

[@rnarexperience]

It could be part of the upgrade cable and not part of the stock. Might be worth confirming with Fatfreq before purchasing.

[@rnarexperience]

Thanks for confirming - i wish they wrote it somewhere on what you're getting for stock/standard if the preorder bonus were not included, or i may have missed that writing somewhere

[@dougmorato]

I don’t get why people associate HBB with “bass monster”. His target is literally nowhere Basshead level. Great to see FatFreq using a 11mm DD for the low frequencies. Personally, I felt like there is a bit too much of upper mids and not enough mid bass. I’ll stick to my Maestro Mini for now. Great review.

[@Nghtmare30589]

Where were you able to find information about the driver size?

[@rnarexperience]

I think compared to many other prominent audio reviewers out there, HBB has a little bit more bass emphasis to his preference compared to the rest. I mean a lot of his top choices have strong emphasis on the lower regions (as well as others for balance). On the stock tuning it is a little flatter in delivery but with the bass boost adapter then the duece unveils its true face. Thanks for watching

[@moonsofjupiter]

You describe a weakness of FF imo. I had the Maestro Mini and traded up to the Scarlet Mini. I’m waiting for them to counter what you said. Give us more mid bass (lose the tuck sometimes!) less pinna gain (upper mid emphasis) and refined upper extension. I’m holding off too. I think many would prefer the Doscincos for $30 more with 5 drivers and no weaknesses.

[@Nghtmare30589]

@@moonsofjupiter I had the DosCinco and returned them. I prefer the Deuce a lot more.

[@dougmorato]

@@Nghtmare30589 that’s what FatFreq told me when I asked them: 11mm + 8mm.

[@LyuboA]

great IEM i like it so much i'm actually tempted to buy a second pair just to have a backup but it's unfortunate that not only the price was increased like 3 or 4 times but on top of this fatfreq used FAKE Advertisement for 25db Bass Shelf it's Only 18db Not 25db and only by using the impedance adapter you get additional 7db Bass Boost so they LIED and actually Linsoul admitted it when i asked and even changed the description on their site but if you buy it after the 31st this month i don't think you will be getting the impedance adapter anymore in the package or if you are like me and got the 3.5mm but you use 4.4mm well you are screwed they don't sell the impedance adapter separately and they have an impedance adapter sold Only for backers which you can buy from Aliexpress for Half the Price then what fatfreq is selling it on their site but it's different then the one from the pre order package

[@rnarexperience]

The price increased? On their official website? Do you have the link for the impedance adapter from aliexpress. It'll be silly for Fatfreq not to sell the bass boost adapter though as that's one of the accompanying "feature" with the Duece. Maybe it's something to discuss with Fatfreq to see if they are planning to sell that sometime down the line.

[@brownwallet942]

These IEMs sounds amazing buddy and I don't think you even need the impedance adapter. But I'm not sugarcoating it, the customer experience with FatFreq is super annoying. Aside from waiting for too long even when I ordered express delivery, I didn't receive my preorder bonus, the Cococart sent me email that my package was delivered even when it's not making me anxious, and now that I received my package I am shocked they sent me the wrong impedance adapter. Imagine, I bought 2 cables and sent them a tip and communicated to them about my order and yet they still manage to f*ck this up. I am still waiting for their response, so far nothing. With all their talent, they are still not ready for mainstream success. FatFreq is the epitome of overpromising and underdelivering. Deuce sounds amazing though, the bass rumble is heavy and present without sacrificing the sound quality of vocals and the imaging is just amazing

[@Nghtmare30589]

As a proud owner of the HBB Deuce (had it for a week) I agree, it is amazing.

[@rnarexperience]

It is indeed amazing for what they've done with just a 2 DD. Really sets the standard for anyone trying to achieve bass presentation like this

[@junaidsultan1138]

Are they hard to drive? What DAC/amp did you use​@@rnarexperience

[@LyuboA]

amazing but it's Only 18db Bass shelf Not 25db Fatfreq LIED btw they admitted it Only after i asked and two youtubers made measurements

[@joefilter2923]

It’s OK, but it’s not really a great value proposition. The higher end really doesn’t open up, and yet somehow there’s peaks that annoy. A little EQ to taste helps me.

[@joefilter2923]

I think mostly I’m annoyed that I always fall for the hype train, like the DMG or Z Wu. I can get close with the DMG and Ikko OH10, so this is a waste of 250 I could’ve spent on something better.

[@rnarexperience]

I think the value comes mostly if you preordered it but thanks for sharing your experience nonetheless. Ikko OH10 is still a great basshead IEM and it's a classic but it's a lot more forward from my experience

[@joefilter2923]

@@rnarexperience I did pre-order, the same day HBB video announced it, but it took three months to get it. I even pre-ordered early, but I got a tiny little cloth case that won’t zip up with the earphones and cables both in it. I definitely did not get any accessories except tips. This is hype. It’s OK. I don’t think it’s for idiots, but I kind of think that the HBB khan could be EQed to get something close.

[@MariaAudioChick]

Never ever fall for the hype train! I always do a lot I'd research and test tuning with auto EQ. Then I mod nearly everything to tweak perfectly to my taste. There have only been one or 3 sets out if about 30 so far, that have just been OK and returned. All hyped, Delci, Waner and Trio. They were fine but nothing special. I figured Delci was overhyped but needed to decide for myself. The bass on all was just meh. Especially Waner.

[@jankan4979]

the main problem is 95% of the orders lacks metal case. I can imagine they can be easly damaged in shipping....no case for $250....wow. Soft generic case is to small btw xD

[@rnarexperience]

Oh you received it with the stock case? I need to have a look around for the photos

[@joefilter2923]

@@rnarexperience I jumped on the hype train early, but I just got the cloth zipper case. I definitely wouldn’t buy this again, and it’s impossible to return so it’s a waste of time.

[@rnarexperience]

Unfortunate to hear you're not having a good experience with what you bought, maybe you'll be able to sell it to get something else?

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

The main problem is 95% of the orders not having been fulfilled, whilst they've made the supposed exclusive perks and iems available to immediately buy for anyone who didn't pre-order.

[@joefilter2923]

@@rnarexperience I’ll be sure never to buy anything from fat freak or anything recommended by HBB. His DMG was a similar experience; his wreck on WU was bad and it fell apart. He cares if they’re unclear about animal donations, but he doesn’t care if his Collab rips people off.