BOSS ES-8 Editor Overview

A quick overview of the new Boss ES-8 Editor for the ES-8 Effects Switcher.
You can download the ES-8 Editor software here.
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[@ManBunMetalHead]

How has the ES-8 Editor changed your pedal board?

[@sethanunpornvoravanich2649]

Do es5 have one?

[@MrDonc78]

Almost 3 years in with it and it's probably the most important pedal on my board. Continuously inspired. Anyone with a handful of pedals would benefit greatly from it because it's basically an exponential modifier lol

[@shaft9000]

I now use the 'separate' to go through a nemesis delay in stereo (loop8) and then split the L side going to a foxrox tzf flanger to one amp and the R side through an empress phaser to another amp...sounds demented af

[@riel777]

I recently built my pedalboard with the ES-8 and when I was manually setting up the patches, it was a doozer! With the ES-8 Editor, it's so much easier to setup.

[@gatis.pastars]

Hi! Love your channel and videos - really helped to understand the ES-8. However, I have a strange problem with my ES-8, the left output of ES-8 gives lower output signal level. The difference between left and right channels are around 20db - that`s a lot! Any ideas why? P.S. All cables are good, there`s definitely no problem loops per se.

[@adamstrachn]

It's crazy Boss and other companies don't t put tutorials on KZbin. The manual only helps so much, especially if you have no idea about this tech. Appreciate the videos, they are very helpful.

[@jacobpittman1996]

Thank for the walk-thru; very practical and helpful demonstration. Boss should sponsor you (in case they’re listening)!

[@paulpaul3347]

Nearly a 2 year old video and still a huge help! Thanks for helping me get my head around this crazy box

[@AntonovichHicksenbrau]

6 years here

[@701Builder]

Terrific videos on the ES-8 updating and great tutorial on the editor, you’re the only one. Thanks

[@Kevngodfrey]

Dude, watching all your videos on the es8 and I have to say YOU ARE MY HERO!

[@jcshirke]

Just got an ES-8. Programmed one patch manually and immediately hoped that there was an editor for this thing. My search turned up your video. Huge thanks for taking the time to share this info. I have updated my ES-8's firmware, downloaded the editor, and am now good to go.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Always great to hear this video is still helping people 🤘🏼

[@jackglacken9808]

Thank you Man bun Metal Head. I have used this several times. I just updated to version 2.04 and some things have changed slightly, but using your video again, I was able to complete the upgrade. The only difference with this latest update was that I needed to select the files before hitting send. The first time I did not select the files before hitting send, and the updSMFJ looked like it was working, but nothing actually got sent. This is different than before, so when I didn't get the OK on the ES-8 I was a bit nervous to unplug it. But I did it anyway, and this time I selected the files before hitting send, and that worked just fine. Thanks again, Jack

[@fooschmack]

For anyone looking for a cheap MIDI->USB option, I can confirm the $31 M-Audio UNO works perfectly.

[@HensleyCaleb]

Yep! I use that one too! Works great

[@tonymerry9275]

I've owned an ES-8 for several months in anticipation of building that dream pedal board but put it off because this thing looked so complicated. I just updated my firmware and setup the pc editor and I really regret not doing all this much sooner. Thanks to MBMH for the videos on updating and operating, so helpful!

[@tonymerry9275]

I've updated the firmware on my Strymon Timeline, Big Sky and my Eventide H9 Max now as well. The editor is going to make programming presets so much easier and really streamline the whole process.

[@matthewcool247]

Thanks a bunch!! This got me up and running in just a few minutes. I really appreciate it!

[@V8LC100]

just got my ES-8 today and feels like I have purchased a spaceship. A lot to learn it seems...

[@ManBunMetalHead]

It really opens up what you can do with FX, you'll love it.

[@davidgandia2229]

Hey man great video! Extremely helpful. I just purchased an ES-8 and was dreading all the button pushing lol. This editor will definitely speed up the workload. Thanks again. I'll be watching for more of your videos. Take care

[@Casual_Shots]

This was incredibly helpful man I think I'm ready to buy mine.

[@pierregautheret5049]

again a great tutorial video, i just have the same feeling it opens so many doors. Cool stuff + cool guy + cool video. thank you

[@JorgeLFajardoG]

Bro you really deserve way more subscribers.!! All your videos are awesome . I learned everything I know about midi because of your channel .! Thank you.!! Your the ES-8 god.!! 💪🏼🔥🎸

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Thanks a lot man! Always great to hear my vids help!

[@contactjamieroy]

Chewing with your mouth open and smashing a mouse button like that gotta be my top two pet peeves 😂

[@ManBunMetalHead]

🤣

[@lanceweinkamer6700]

Thank you so much for doing this, really helps out!

[@froloffanton]

I thought of the words describing you before I saw the name of your channel. Great video, just what I was looking for.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Hahaha! Thanks!

[@nickschillace3172]

Thank you so much for all of these videos! They're so damned helpful!

[@davidfilms9957]

Hey man I love your videos! And I completely love this boss Es 8 editor overview. You should make another video on this again. I recently got an es 8 and would love to know more in detail of what I can do on it

[@rgb205]

This video has been helpful and appears to be the only one that actually explains some things. Wish there were more as I am having issues and have more questions..

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Glad this helped. Let me know what questions you have, might be able to help you out.

[@rgb205]

I suppose the best way for me to distill down the many questions I have would be, what does setting up a wet/dry/wet rig look like using the ES8. I ordered 2 Katana 50 combos to go with my Suhr Bader 18 and can't wait to hear what it sounds like. I'm still trying to grasp an understanding of everything and anything I need to click or un-click in the editor. I do know that in order for me to use my Nemesis & (2) H9's daisy chained (midi), they have to have their own channel to specify which pedal is being used. For now until the 2 amps come in I'm just trying to do the 4CM and get familiar with tweaking the editor. I was able to create 8 patches but something is wrong because I'm getting nothing from Loop 7-Nemesis or Loop 8 - (2) H9's. Driving me crazy...thanks dude

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Sounds like you're going to have quite the versatile rig soon! Sounds like you need to do some troubleshooting. The first thing I'd do is move your Nemesis and H9's to different loops to see if the problem persists. If it does, then there's an issue somewhere with the wiring to the pedals, probably. That or maybe the MIDI messages being sent to the pedals (assuming only have that set up). If the you are able to get sound from the pedals in different loops, then there might be a setting that needs adjusted in the ES-8. Channel 7 and 8 are both stereo capable (7 is mono send, mono/stereo return, and 8 is mono/stereo send or return). Hopefully this helps a little.

[@rgb205]

Thank you for responding...it helps a lot. I've made a ton of progress but still have weird issues. For now I am set up in the 4CM until the Katana's arrive. I am getting signals from loop 7 & 8 and have been able to create midi patches but something weird happens when I try to create a patch on the Nemesis and can't for the life of me figure out how to only use one of the two H9's for any given loop Nemesis is in loop 7 -midi 1-channel 1...H9#1 is loop 8- midi-2-channel 2- H9#2 is in loop 8 also- midi-3-channel 3- both H9's are daisy chained with audio cable and ALL 3 pedals are daisy chained with midi cable. On the Nemesis the 4 presets I have saved are #1 Tape #2 Digital #3 Shifter #4 Helix While in ES8 patch #1 "Clean" w/ loop 7 engaged (Nemesis) when I get to the PC section for the Nemesis, if I put 1 and hit write x3 there is no issue as the Nemesis engages the 1st preset saved within the Nemesis .. I can tap on any other patch (2-8) and when I tap on Patch 1, I get the clean signal with the Tape delay from the Nemesis. When I go through the same routine but use #2-3 or 4 for PC, Patch #1 on the ES8 will not engage or light up and depending on the PC number I choose, for example PC 3, as soon as I hit write x3, patch #1 won't engage and automatically jumps to patch 3 on the ES8. I have no idea what's causing this. With the H9's I can have a Blackhole reverb on H9#1 and Streets delay on H9#2. But if I only want the Blackhole reverb and nothing on #2, I can't figure out how to have #2 not engage. I assumed that because each H9 has their own (midi 2 & Midi 3) channel, that I could specify which one I want turned on. I'm wondering if I have to create a blank patch on either H9 for when I only want one of them to be engaged. I am new to using midi and it has been a challenging learning process..

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Hmmm, I'm a little confused when you say midi 1 channel 1, etc. Each pedal should be assigned to a "MIDI channel" (1, 2, 3) etc. That also requires you to set the MIDI channel in each pedal. Also make sure you have MIDI THRU set up on all your pedals to ensure the MIDI messages from the ES-8 do not stop at the first pedal. When setting up the ES-8 to send the MIDI signals, make sure to use the "Patch MIDI 1-8" function and not the "Assign 1-12" function. When setting up the Patch MIDI to make a Program Change, verify the "Ctl CC's" are OFF. This can send CC changes to the pedals that you do not want. For trying to force a bypass via MIDI, I'd suggest looking at the user manuals. More than likely there should be CC and Val # associated with doing so. Good luck.

[@danilor.pavonchavez5192]

Bad ass video man!

[@callevi1791]

Great intro to es8 editor....id love to hear more about what you think about the es8 features especially the buffers? Are they adequate, making hardware buffers unnecessary?

[@cilantroshrimp6177]

I’m very new to MIDI and your videos are so helpful. This might be a dumb question, but why do we route the ES-8 back into the audio interface? I guess i’m wondering how to connect other pedals via MIDI while using the editor? Do we beed a MIDI interface connected to the MIDI out of the ES-8? Thanks!

[@michaelrisberg5840]

Hey MBMH. Thanks for the in depth and clear videos. Question. I have a Keeley Eccos delay that has a remote tap input via 1/4 TS cable. I would like to program my ES-8 to send a pre-programmed clock out to the Eccos. Example, I would like to send a 132bpm clock out from the ES-8 to the eccos. Is that possible using the CTL outputs of the ES-8

[@kevinstafford3128]

Any idea how to connect my ES-8 to a carvin v3M through Midi to switch channels? The V3M uses the FS44L footswitch which has Channel 1/2, Ch 3, Reverb, boost all controlled through the midi connector. From what I understand the ES-8 can do this.

[@collinmcbride]

Do you know how to set up an external footswitch into Ctrl1,2,3,or4 and have it switch (toggle) between inputs? I want to be able to switch between 2 guitars on a patch with the tap of a switch. I haven’t discovered any tutorials on this. Thanks.

[@j-fquevillon8134]

Great video man!!! Would a normal audio interface like my Focusrite Clarett 4pre with Midi In and Out would work to use with the UpdSMF player to load in the ES-8? Thanks

[@ManBunMetalHead]

That audio interface should work just fine.

[@StephenWashburn]

Great video! I've been looking for something like this since the new firmware/editor software came out! I don't have an ES-8 yet, but I've just about decided that its my next gear purchase (gotta save and sell some other stuff). I'm curious to know your opinion on the Librarian feature - My ideal use case would be to use ~one bank per song (0.01 = Intro, 0.02 = Verse, etc), program a bunch of songs in (50 or 60), and then each week (I play for worship at my church) use the Librarian to move the songs I need to the first 7 banks (0-6). From everything I've read and now seen in your video, it looks like that would be feasible right? Also, do you know how long the patch names can be? Thanks again for a great video and for being the first one I could find!!

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Stephen Washburn, I'm glad the video helped you out. The ES-8 is a fantastic piece of gear. Once you get it, you'll wonder why you've waited so long. I think the Librarian can do exactly what you want. So much freedom! I believe the titles are limited to 16 characters (the length of the LCD).

[@StephenWashburn]

Thanks! I've been using a Joyo PXL-Live for coming up on a year, and it has absolutely sold me on programmable loop/switching and while its been awesome for the price, its obviously WAY less powerful, and programming (and RE-programming) song sounds each week is starting to wear out! So just about time for an upgrade! 🤘

[@chrispost5275]

Great video. Can you do a video on setting up the basic stereo set up.

[@johnmatta2061]

hey MBMH! thanks for doing this, this is a huge help! question if you happen to know, lets say I use a Cnum function and want the presets LED to change from blue to red. is this possible? Thanks a bunch!

[@MrUncuredporkpie]

Super useful video. I am trying to upload a few banks (70-85) from one es-8 onto another without deleting what the other already has (30-45). Is it possible to transfer only a selection of banks, or does the import export only do the whole lot? Thanks for any help

[@MGiddz]

Great videos. Very helpful. With the ES8 is there a way to place additional loops to run within my amps effects loop (in addition to the "volume" loop) How can I independently control multiple pedals in the effects loop that are not midi controllable.?

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

on the es-8 why only two exp-output jacks; vs 8 ? I have to Y cable if more need it ; right ? i will use the boss dual exp pedal but... each pedal might use the pedal for different things; depending on whats selected. so Midi can control that ?

[@mekanious]

Is it possible to mute only the input to a loop but leave its output playing? I've got a stereo rig and I want to record a loop on 1 amp and leave it playing and then play something else on the other amp. Would the mixer 'trails' allow me to do this? Thanks!

[@shanongrainger2181]

Thanks for your videos! Q...so is it possible to have both the interface for the editor (e.g. Roland UM-One MK2) and a pedal (e.g. Strymon Timeline) plugged into the ES-8 at the same time? It’s a real pain to have to unplug the pedal each time you want to use the editor... Thanks for your help.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Absolutely. Just make a big loop with all the MIDI connections

[@maikamb9085]

Hi. Can you describe the errors you found after updating with the M-Audio midisport? I just did the update to 2.01 on the ES-8 with that device, but I can't find errors so far. I am just starting with the ES-8. Thank you.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Maika MB, I believe it was an error stating the system parameters weren't transferred whenever I updated a patch. However, the parameters were updated, so I'm not sure what the issue was. Have fun with ES-8!

[@Lucjan-Siedlarczyk]

Is it possible to set button 1 in boss es-5 to turn on the delay in plethora x3 and then clicking the same butto again to turn off this effect and enable another effect in plethora x3?

[@gregs6424]

Is there a cut off in sound when switching patches in memory mode? Do the delay trails and reverb carry over? (I know you showed how to enable the trails in your video, but does it actually sound seamless without cutting out?)

[@ManBunMetalHead]

There is no sound cut off when switching patches as long as the "Patch Change Time" parameter is set to 0ms. For some reason, it was set to something like 5ms when I first got it, which created a noticeable cut out. Delay and reverb trails work no problem as long is you enable them in the patch.

[@seandavidharris]

Great video. Do you know if you can send your midi out of the ES8 through your normal midi pedal chain before coming back in to the audio interface?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Generally yes, as long as you have MIDI thru turned ON for all your devices. I use a Timeline, Mobius, Silver Lake, and EQ200 with no issues while using the ES-8 Editor.

[@seandavidharris]

That’s good to hear. Would be cumbersome to take your board apart every time you want to program the ES8

[@joegordon2230]

Hey quick question. Will midi to usb work for this? I have a few of those laying around I used to connect a midi controller directly to my pc and it worked for that.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Many will work, but the Roland UM-One tends to be the most stable.

[@chrissmith5506]

What do those little boxes that turn orange when selected do? The are in the parameter editing area just to the left of button names in the CTL/EXP section and to the left of the assignment numbers in the ASSIGNx-y section. Changing them triggers a WRITE, but I haven't found out exactly what they do. They don't seem to affect my patches.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

They are used to change what the switches do and write assigns. I have a video on assigns that should clear it all up for you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHfMgK1_opythc0

[@gooseabuse]

I use a memory man tap tempo, can I send a preset tap tempo out the control out? Or is the clock just for Midi?

[@hamsup01]

Hey MBMH! Super informative video, thank you!! I'm waiting for some midi cables to come in, but wanted to wrap my head around how to change midi settings on the editor. How is this done with the midi ports on the ES taken up? I have the ES-5, but I assume it's the same method as your ES-8.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Depends on how you have the MIDI chain set up. If there is nothing going to the MIDI IN of the ES-8, that's easy enough. Otherwise you'd have to unplug it so you can connect to the editor. On the OUT side, you should be able to connect to the MIDI OUT of the last device in the chain. If the last device doesn't have a MIDI OUT (some don't) you'll have to unplug the MIDI OUT from a device in the chain, furtherest down the line if possible. Hope that helps.

[@hamsup01]

@@ManBunMetalHead Thanks! I'm in the unlucky boat of having the Source Audio EQ1 as last in my chain. I'll probably go the route of trying to do everything w/o SAEQ1, then just program that separately.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

I used to have the same pedal and had to do just that.

[@Darkitectband]

So my desktop editor has stopped working on Windows 10 for some reason. I'm guessing Windows did some update that has screwed it up but yeah, I've uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail and can't find a single thing about it online anywhere so I was hoping you might have heard of this issue and had a fix for it? Last time I used it was a couple months ago and it worked fine. Redid my board yesterday so I went to open it to change some patches and no go, won't open. The icon opens on the taskbar but not the monitor and when you hover over the icon on the taskbar it's blank white?

[@andreslecaros4593]

@manbun how’s it going brother hope all is well? Question???? How do you switch amp heads like an A/B

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

impressive; no other pedal switch does this; along with ordering of your pedals ! Even the newer ones are basic on/off switches with no extras; basic presents.

[@benmusicperson]

does the midi connection from the ES-8 to the computer have to be direct or can there be midi devices between them? i have a bunch of midi controlled pedals that would be between the midi out of the ES-8 and the midi in of the computer. will this cause problems?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

As long as MIDI thru is turned on for all the pedals, you should still be able to use the ES-8 editor. I do it all the time.

[@MultiStratoman]

Hi! I'm new at this and I need some help. I can't find any info on this. How do I assign a midi channel on a Boss DD-500, MD-500 or RV-500? All of them are linked between each otherwith MIDI cables and connected to the ES-8. The DD-500 is in loop 8, MD-500 is in loop 7, RV-500 is in loop 6

[@tocascp]

hey, i have a big doubt, how to you send certain loops to the send/ret of the amp and the other to the front of the amp? great videos btw

[@ManBunMetalHead]

If you look up the 4 wire method for ES-8 that would help out. I may do a video in the future.

[@ricopersson8088]

Thanks for all the tutorials you do! I wonder if you know how to get pass "midi connection error" when in option mode trying to connect to the es-8? I got the latest firmware and I use usb-midi directly from computer to in and out as should be. Still I get this error every time I try. Would really appreciate guidance on this

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Common issue is the MIDI interface. I'd suggest using the Roland UM-One. That interface tends to fix that issue.

[@kencerreto]

I'm late to the ES-8 party but I'm really happy with it and your videos have helped me get it running. Thanks! Any idea if I could use a Strymon Conduit to connect my ES-8 to my PC?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

It's possible the Strymon Conduit could work, but you never know until you try. The only device that I is guaranteed to work is the Roland UM-One (amzn.to/32jidiR).

[@kencerreto]

@@ManBunMetalHead Thanks. MIDI is still black magic to me, afraid to touch it like the monkey men at the beginning of 2001. I'll try!

[@PlanYourEscape]

In case this helps anyone, i found out the way to do bank copies in the librarian view: You can ctrl select an entire row and hit copy (don't select the "bank" # cell). Then select a single cell elsewhere and hit paste. it will copy all rows from left to right into the new cells. This seems obvious, but i didn't discover it at first cause i was trying to copy to multiple rows vertically, which is not possible. It only works horizontally. Let me know if i missed something along these lines? Any other tips for ease of use? I wish you could edit text by tabbing and entering between cells like in Excel. :( But still way way better than using the buttons on the device to key in text.

[@manuelvillavieja2102]

Was desperatly looking for that Thank you so much.

[@PlanYourEscape]

@@manuelvillavieja2102 you are welcome. Glad we all have a place to come together and figure this thing out. Cheers to the uploader!

[@bonniecat121]

You mention that the M-Audio Midisport caused a few problems and that you have another interface that you use. You did not explain what the other setup is. So what is the best setup? BTW, I have an ES-5.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

I use the MIDI on my RME Fireface 800. Not sure if it's the best setup, but it tends to work well for me.

[@juananramosferrer4432]

It seems a very good device. Is it possible to make program changes from a sequencer like cubase?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

It shouldn't be a problem at all. I think I'll do a video in the future controlling the ES-8 with a sequencer.

[@likethehotels]

Your vids on this are super helpful. I just found out about the update and editor and really want to give it a whirl, but I have a lot of work saved on the ES-8 already. Does updatin wipe out your patches? If so, is there a way to save your patches in the old firmware, update, and reimport? I want to do the testing myself, but clearing out my patches would eliminate months of work.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

There's little to no chance the update will wipe your data. I didn't have a problem myself, but you never know. You'd probably be okay, but it might be worth looking into doing a bulk data dump, if you're worried. I believe there's some info on how to do that in the ES-8 manual, but have never done so myself.

[@likethehotels]

Man Bun Metal Head so, you just updated your ES-8 which had edited patches, and when you were finished with your update, your patches were there??

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Ian Hilton, correct

[@xacalus]

Hello, to make an update on the ES firmware can i make it with an audio interface with MIDI or is it mandatory that you use a USB-MIDI interface?

[@davidmast5979]

Dude: Roland and Boss should be paying you some serious bucks for bailing them out!

[@nathanschambers6984]

I'm new to MIDI and I'm having issues with connecting my audio interface to the ES8. When I go to options in the editing software, it doesn't even recognize my interface at all. I have my cables routed correctly, and the version it came with was 2.05 already. Is there anyone that can help me with this?

[@reneorfanidis789]

Thanks a million. Great video (as all the other ones. :-) I have bought the M-Audio UNO and unfortuneatly it did not work with my windows xp laptop. Is there any other audio interface you would recommend that could work but not cost the world? I am currently working on a new floorboard with new pedals, my brand new mesa boogie JP2C together with the ES-8. Thank you for all your help Greetings from Germany René

[@ManBunMetalHead]

I haven't used Windows XP in years. I used to use a M-Audio MIDISport 2x2, which I think works with Windows XP. Pretty sure I used it in this video. It works with the ES-8 but is a little buggy, still usable though. Not sure if it's still available but you might be able to find a used one.

[@reneorfanidis789]

@@ManBunMetalHead Thank you very much for your advice. I will try it out. :-) All the best to you and thank you for your quick answer

[@studioversalsstartainment1681]

boss es 8 hello bro, this is our first time use boss es8, i have some question: when i am recording i use 4 channel input in my audio interface, and i create 4 track in my DAW (logic pro x) to record it at same time, so i am using a splitter to make my 1 input guitar split to 4 preamp pedal (Running pararel) and than 4 output from pedal preamp go to audio interface.. so with this set up, i have 4 different character guitar on my DAW my QUESTION IS can i use this set up for LIVE perform on stage USING BOSS ES 8 ..? i mean, 1. can boss es 8 run 4 (four) pararel loop..? 2. or boss es 8 just possible run 2 pararel loop..going into 2 output of ES8..? thanks for the answer and i hoop you more succesfull thanks

[@connorwhyte3207]

i'm thinking about getting an ES-8, the only thing i'm unsure of is, id be using it for playing live and we don't always use the same set list, is it easy enough to move patches around on the computer or would i have to recreate all my patches every time?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Moving channels around is really easy with the ES-8 editor. All you have to do is open the patch and resave it in another spot. Pretty simple

[@danr543]

Man Bun Metal Head is it possible to change patches using midi from say ableton live?

[@touvang1756]

Has anyone had phase issues when running 2 amps? Any way to correct this? Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks.

[@asweriseofficial]

I haven't hooked this ES8 up yet, but typically run a Radial ABY after my current switcher with one dry amp one wet, and it works really well. It's got quite a few functions on it that help with phase and other issues when running 2 rigs.

[@mrcrawford87]

I'm not new to midi but... I am new in regards to diving in deeper! I have the Boss ES8 and trying to control the Eventide Micropitch Delay & Strymon IRIDIUM - I am honestly at a loss for savings patches on the Micropitch Delay & IRIDIUM in one of the 127 locations - I have been successful in turning on the favorite switch on the IRIDIUM and accessing the 5 presets on the Micropitch Delay - Let me give you an example of my issue - First of all when switching from one patch to another on the ES8 there is what I call a hiccup or a pause. For instance, when I change from bank 1 number1 to bank 1 number 2 - After watching your video I am understanding assignments which eliminates the hiccup or pause but, this is where I am having issues - I have a 52ms slap back delay on my Timeline and want the use the Micropitch Delay(Set to Midi Channel 3) for a longer 500ms delay when I kick into a lead - I want to be able to select bank 2 number 1 with the Micropitch Delay off and when I select number 6 to activate it (which is turned off and set up with assignments) to turn on the Micropitch Delay to preset 3 and when I select number 6 again to deactivate it I want the Micropitch Delay to turn off - I can't seem to get this done, could you offer any assistance? MicroPitch Delay Manual: cdn.eventideaudio.com/uploads/2021/10/MicroPitchDelay-QRG-Web.pdf

[@waynetoneseekerandersen2213]

Man bun metal, good day, have you found a way to not unplug all the midi cables going to the midi effects when using the editor? Can I try a midi out box splitter so when programming and making changes I can leave everything “plugged in” on my board?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

I always plug my Roland UM-One to the MIDI IN of the ES-8 (because that's always open) and the MIDI OUT of the last pedal in the chain, which is my Strymon Timeline and I never have a problem. You could use a MIDI splitter if you need to but if you're using it for the ES-8 MIDI IN make sure whatever else is connected to the splitter isn't sending anything at the same time or you could run into some issues.

[@waynetoneseekerandersen2213]

@@ManBunMetalHead thanks for the response. I was unable to make programming work that way. Today I bought a midi solution 1 in 4 out box. At first five tries connecting, es8 said problem and my md, dd, and rv 500 series pedals said midi error and es8 would not connect. But the fifth time suddenly out of nowhere, it started working.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Out of curiosity, are you using the Roland UM-One MIDI interface? That's the one most people have the best success with.

[@waynetoneseekerandersen2213]

@@ManBunMetalHead yes, I am.

[@Kerosenetrewthe]

After spending a couple weeks diving in the ES-8, I'm learning it's pretty programmable to your needs. Loving it so far. I did have a question that I'm having trouble finding the answer. I downloaded and installed the Editor and that works well, however, how do I link my Eventide H9 along with the Editor? I seem to have to pull my midi connection to the H9 to hook up the midi to the computer. I have a Behringer audio interface with midi. Great videos and appreciate the time you put into them. Looking forward to more.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

You should be able to just include everything in the MIDI chain. ES8 MIDI OUT -> H9 MIDI IN H9 MINI OUT -> Behringer MIDI IN Behringer MIDI OUT -> ES8 MIDI IN

[@Kerosenetrewthe]

@@ManBunMetalHead Thanks for the response! Definitely appreciate it. I have everything connected in the midi chain but am getting a midi connection error. In the ES-8 Editor, am I still selecting both my Audio Interface (Behringer) midi in and out?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

You should have everything set up correctly in the editor. I would check the settings on the H9. My guess is that you have MIDI Thru turned OFF. Try turning that ON.

[@Kerosenetrewthe]

@@ManBunMetalHead Awesome, that worked to get me to connect to everything but I'm still getting a midi connection error. I can program everything sorta. At least the Editor gets me closer and faster than using the manual buttons.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Hmmm, not sure how else to help you. If you take the H9 out of the chain and you're not getting any issues, the errors you are getting are somehow related to the H9.

[@GC-bk1mv]

will the Roland um-one mk2 work instead of the minisport?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

As long as it has a MIDI IN and MIDI OUT, it should work, no problem

[@chrisjeemusic]

Man Bun Metal Head it does however they are both male midi in and out.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

That won't be a problem. The MIDI cable connectors are male and device connectors are female.

[@mcrozer]

I have the Boss ES-8 which is great but when i use the editor software it somehow mutes or turns off sound and I can't hear anything from any of the patches?? I can connect ok with the roland USB/midi devise. I can send all data via write but then no sound? The only way to get sound back is by doing a factory reset! any ideas??

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Have you updated the firmware on the ES-8? When you do the factory reset, I assume it reverts to the previous firmware version (v1.0X). To use the ES-8 Editor, you need V2.00 or higher. If you haven't updated the firmware or need to check what version is currently installed, check out this video to do so, kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWW5gpmCq6eVf6s&lc=z12mtfgbipikcl3vq232slwp2wb3frv3b.

[@mcrozer]

Man Bun Metal Head I have updated to v2.01 and when I do the factory re set it does not revert back. I can talk fine from the mac to the es-8 and swap settings but it just renders the unit silent?? I've checked the mute but it's not that ?

[@mcrozer]

Ok so I factory re set the es8 again and then re applied the v2.01 firmware and it now works. Must have been a corruption somewhere

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Matthew Crozer, good to know man. Glad it worked out.

[@michaelsteenburgh1724]

i keep getting a Midi connection error message when trying to select my midi interface connection. any guidance?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

Have you updated the firmware on the ES-8? Did you have any connected issues then?

[@brianfrankel6992]

I was hoping you would address the new "Link" function in the v.2 firmware, either in your video about installing the v.2 update, or your video about the Editor. When the new "Link" function came out in v.2 of firmware, I thought I could buy a 2nd ES-8 and link it to the ES-8 I own, to extend the number of loops/patches I could control with my 1st ES-8. I asked Boss, which said the Link function doesn't work that way and won't allow to to do what I wanted. Boss said with "Link" off, and using MIDI messages, the 1st ES-8 can control the 2nd ES-8 and I can do what I wanted. I suppose I'd mix the sound from the different pedals connected to both units by using one of the send/return loops on each ES-8 unit. I'm interested in whether you ever tried that or know of anyone who has ever tried that, and how that worked and exactly how that was set up. What I'm also curious about is if the "Link" function is turned on, which means the parameters on each ES-8 unit would have to be identical according to Boss, what are real world applications of using the Link function? I have not found anywhere on the Internet anyone who actually used 2 ES-8 units together (using either MIDI or Link to connect them), and I have not found any instructions or discussion about how the Link function actually works/what it does/what it is used for (and Boss itself wouldn't answer my question about what the Link function is used for).

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

Can i use a dual expression pedal for two different pedals; or one channel for total pedal volume control. the manual on the es-8 has two exp in; two outs plug 4 control. NOT CLEAR IF th cv outs and exp out is dedicated to what its plugged into ! Why not have expression inputs be assigned to the different pedals that support exp. pedals; but fed thru the es-8 rather than the exp input on each specific pedal. the exp pedal does different thinks to my pitchfork vs tremelo box, perhaps a volume control. But the ES-8 does not seem to have that now; only two exp out; vs being able to supply Qty-8; outputs if you had 8 pedals to support that. OK. next version of the ES--8A !!

[@samxulumte9648]

Would it work with es5?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

There should be a separate ES-5 editor on BOSS's website.

[@ljm_2011]

do they have one for the es-5?

[@ManBunMetalHead]

It looks like they do. Should be able to find it here. www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/es-5/updates_drivers/

[@mattgilbert7347]

Man, I have the ES-5, I suppose there is an editor for that as well? I'm so incredibly computer illiterate tho, I doubt I would know what to do with it. I'd probably spend 90% of my time trying to figure out what this stuff means and 10% actually playing music. I bought the Disaster Area DCP-8EZ b/c it has 8 loops and looked like a simpler, more straightforward unit. But apparently, it is designed as a kind of accessory for a MIDI controller. I don't have any MIDI pedals. What would be cool is to use them together so that I can have all 13 of my pedals on the board, controlled by just a couple of switches. Damned if I know how to do it. I'm old, computers are confusers to me.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Actually, the editor doesn't look too confusing. It's mostly the ES-8/5 editing functions on a PC. You could use that separate function in the ES-8 to run wet/dry. I would love to do that with my current set up but the ES-5 only has one dedicated output. Maybe use both switchers and an ABY...not sure how to do that tho

[@georgex609]

I have the Gigrig G2 it doesn't have anything like this. The ES8 is light years ahead of the G2.

[@tonepoet1228]

NO WAY CAN I GET THE PATCH TO WORK STEREO. EVER. THEY ARE USELESS OUTPUTS IN REALITY. oR IM TOTALLY LOST. HELP PLS!!!!!!

[@kevinstafford7056]

Any idea how to connect my ES-8 to a carvin v3M through Midi to switch channels? The V3M uses the FS44L footswitch which has Channel 1/2, Ch 3, Reverb, boost all controlled through the midi connector. From what I understand the ES-8 can do this.

[@ManBunMetalHead]

I took a look at the V3M manual, and on the back of the amp it says "NOT FOR MIDI" next to the footswitch control port. I'm assuming the amp is not actually using MIDI to switch channels, but instead using that 5-pin MIDI jack and one cable to the footswitch because it's easier than having 2 or 3 TRS jacks and cables. That being said, you could still get the ES-8 to control it, however, you'd need some modified cabling. More than likely, the way the amp switches channels is by connecting one of the MIDI pins to ground, which essentially what the CTL 1/2, 3/4, and 5/6 jacks do on the ES-8. You'd have to find a wiring diagram or pin out the connector yourself, which I would not recommend unless you have at least some moderate electronics skill. Then you'd have to make yourself some custom cables, or possibly find somewhere that can make them for you. Good luck!