Boss Shot Shells! Is the Juice Worth the Squeeze? 2 Years Later..

Boss Shot Shells! Is the Juice Worth the Squeeze? 2 Years Later..
Bismuth shells have been a hot topic over the last couple of years. I'll break down the good the bad and the ugly on the duck and goose hunting loads!
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[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Rock on man. I have been very impressed with BOSS. In all the gel test videos I have done, they have out performed every type, size, and velocity of steel shells I can find. I think they are probably the best thing on the market short of $10 per shell TSS loads.

[@peterlederer7674]

Boss shotshells maybe good shells it is harder to get them here in CA. However I would never support a company that can't handle criticism about their product. They censored a great KZbin channel because they questioned the quality of them. Out of respect for the channel I won't mention their name so they won't get sued. I feel like whether a company sponsored u or not u should be able to question their product.

[@Blue_Collar_Hunter]

I live in CA and when they have the shells in stock they are not hard to get. I order several cases every season. To each their own, feel free to shoot whatever you like. Boss crushes the competition.

[@Windwalker_Outdoors]

Out of all the KZbin videos I've seen on BOSS shells, I've never seen one have anything bad to say. So out of all those channels, one guy makes a video trash talking BOSS. I'd guess that, that channel may possibly misrepresented BOSS ammo. If they were that bad, word would be out, but its just this one guy.

[@chubb3632]

One guy who dose nothing but deep throat apex ammo

[@CapnAhab89]

@Joshua Lowe hey man I’ve been seeing your comments everywhere on these videos lately! Great reply here. Quick question for you…I am going to be hunting pheasants/sharp tail grouse, ducks, and geese this year. I am new to bird hunting but want to use Boss shells. Should I get different sizes for everything or just use 3/5’s for all of the above?

[@FirePirate099]

@@CapnAhab893/5 will be fine

[@Pontiuspilate666]

Damn these burds are getting folded every shot, hell yeah brother!

[@TheMattboi]

They might be great for some and not for others and I wouldn’t mind finding it out for myself but when they threaten to take actions against someone because they made a video using it, and didn’t like it, Idk how I feel about getting behind these guys product. I really wanted to give them a chance too.

[@avpala2]

Who did they threaten legal action with for making a video?

[@frogassassin1587]

A V Palazola blue collar outdoors

[@TWHunt]

What was the threat? I'd like to know more about this.

[@frogassassin1587]

T.W. Hunt kzbin.info/www/bejne/faaWqpZpdsaipck

[@frogassassin1587]

T.W. Hunt he had to delete all his videos talking about him I think that video explains it

[@peteralex4642]

Boss is pretty much completely out of stock on all 12/20ga shells not to mention two price increases in the last 6 months. So not looking very good for the consumer.

[@Blue_Collar_Hunter]

Looks even worse for ducks getting shot by these 😂 I wouldn’t shoot any other shell.

[@TWHunt]

They are adding inventory everyday, keep checking the site. There has only been one day in the last week that I've looked and haven't seen cases available om 12 and 20.

[@nickb8618]

Boss out of my 1953 Winchester model 12 heavy duck sounds enticing

[@David-hn5ix]

New stuff is too brittle for me

[@camojoe83]

Current prices are 350-440 a case of 200. Unless you want tungsten. That's 13 dollars a round. Remember: that's factory direct pricing. No middleman upcharge. Free shipping on 100 dollars or more tho.

[@338jdj]

nice vid of shooting your goose decoys....lol

[@nathanielchoate69]

The 20 gauge 3 inch shells don’t use a full length wad, have you had better patterns with the 2 3/4”?

[@DuckGunChronicles]

I haven’t shot any 2 3/4 20 gauge shells

[@markkarnatz9406]

Not sure if I would support hoarding shells, in fact Boss even suggested only buying what you need in order for there to be enough for everyone.

[@dirty5thirtyhunting]

I’ve recently started to do a lot of research on reloading steel, bismuth, itx10/13, and TSS. Maybe I’m missing something but after scouring the internet for the past few weeks reading ballistics data and watching a lot of comparison videos like this one I’ve started to realize a few things. First, 2 3/4” 1 1/4 oz #5 bismuth Boss loads seem to be extremely popular. That’s approximately 235 pellets and $1.60 per shell. Secondly, bismuth #5’s seem to be compared to steel #3 or 4 quite a bit. The “rule of 2” is widely accepted from the old lead shot waterfowl days meaning if you were shooting lead 4’s for ducks then you should go up a few sizes in steel. Bismuth is not as dense as steel so a steel #2 is very comparable ballistically to a bismuth #5. Not quite the rule of 2 but close. That being said the 40 yard energy released in ft lbs and ballistic gel penetration is nearly identical between 2 3/4” 1 1/8 oz steel #2 ($.50) vs 2 3/4” 1 1/4 oz bismuth #5’s ($1.60). The huge difference between the two shells is the bismuth has about 100 pellets more and obviously the cost. So my question is, is it worth it to pay triple the amount for a shell that is basically identical to a steel shell at 40 yards? And yes I understand that the same shot size comparison between the 2 would be far better for the bismuth ballistics. I shoot decoying ducks with steel # 2’s and rarely lose any birds...definitely way less than 5% so I don’t have a cripple issue. I know there is a ton of anecdotal and subjective reports from hunters about the Boss shells but I find it strange that Boss hasn’t released ballistics data as a selling point. Curious what other hunters think

[@DFA2503]

I shoot the boss #5’s bc i like the pellet count (around 230). 1 1/4 #2’s steel has around 140. For me, that is a world of difference. I still use 3.5 #2’s or bb steel for geese bc as i said before, i like the shot count. Compared to the 1 1/8 #3’s steel, which is my go to rd for duck, the bismuth #5’s are killer in decoying and passing. Maybe if i used # 2’s steel, i wouldnt notice it as much. But with all the vids on youtube i’ve watched, bismuth does out perform steel in penetration. So i try to keep my old stand by steel load of 1 1/8 #3, which is around 172 pellets, and try to get that in all of my duck loads. 1 oz of #5 bismuth gets you around 200. Ive actually started reloading #5 bismuth for my wife’s 20 gauge bc 7/8’s #4 imo is not all that good considering the 20 gauge does not have the speed needed for steel to be more effective. Bismuth can shoot 200 fps slower and still have better performance.

[@018132]

What combination are you running on your A5 wicked wing?? I just ordered some boss as well. Thanks!!

[@rangeishot8852]

Appreciate your video but I feel like BOSS shot shells are never in stock unless you're in the industry

[@gwwood38]

You can buy them rn

[@chubb3632]

I'm not in the industry and I buy them just as easy as the next guy

[@rangeishot8852]

@@chubb3632 where can I buy them? Website hasn't had any #2 or #3 anytime I look

[@davidh6396]

@@rangeishot8852 I think you can sign up to get notified when things go back in stock

[@rangeishot8852]

@@davidh6396 thank you I appreciate it. I check frequently but will sign up for notifications. Never seen their shells in big box stores either.

[@FlyandFeather]

What choke do you use with these loads? I’ve got the Boss 3” #4 this year for the first time. Thoughts?

[@Blue_Collar_Hunter]

I shoot kicks high flyers on a Beretta A400 Extreme plus & a Remington 870. I have Modified, full & extra full. I usually shoot Boss 3” # 3’s & 4’s

[@jordanstark2454]

better watch your shots if you dont have a full choke this stuff will make a huge spread. Ive had multiple kills on accident with bismuth and a mod choke

[@breezyridgeranch]

I've been trying to find 410 for my boys for the past 4 months. Looking for something for them to shoot doves and ducks with. Can't find them anywhere.

[@brandonk770]

Call the shop

[@breezyridgeranch]

@@brandonk770 thanks buddy. Just ordered a case of the new 6s.

[@danielfuller6679]

Do you have any experience using the #3/5 blend of Boss shells? I just purchased a case and looking forward to using for first time. Thanks

[@neelrandall4803]

3/5 awesome used last season know all my buddies are shooting

[@Blue_Collar_Hunter]

I’ve only used # 3’s & 4’s with great success. But I hear the 3/5 is deadly.

[@mattkalin3139]

I love the 3/5’s that’s all I shoot!

[@neelrandall4803]

Love the dog work as much as hunt

[@jordanstark2454]

great patterns but need a full or imp mod choke still. These really spread out

[@ryansturm1141]

All I shoot now. Love the 16 gauge #5’s! Very, very few cripples.

[@ozarkmountainwanderer3472]

Hell yeah it is... You can knock down B2 with it. Like throwing Thors hammer at birds. You gotta choke it down.

[@brandonk770]

Is it B•AH•ss or B•aw•ss??

[@TWHunt]

Is it still or steel? HAHAHA

[@brandonk770]

@@TWHunt Steele

[@turkeyhunter7617]

Good stuff, I like boss

[@matthewdement3721]

I know they make turkey loads but I’ve heard you can’t shoot tungsten out of these Belgium a5’s…how would these copper loads do for turkey hunting? I have 4 magnums I want to use one for turkey hunting but scared I’ll bulge the barrel with tss loads

[@DuckGunChronicles]

I’ve used the boss bismouth from my 20 gauge and 12 to shot turkeys. It did great

[@davidh6396]

I think the owner estimated the shortages would be over within 6 months. Some things are coming back. Wood prices are back to normal now.

[@emmettcozad6830]

Do you shoot your boss shells out of a modified or full choke?

[@wagner24314]

got a case of 20ga and a case of 28ga

[@travisjacobson7126]

Damn primer shortage… 😫

[@marks5757]

Most of their stuff is already out of stock but would love to buy some.

[@rancerich3326]

I tried Boss last year and loved it. They emailed after the season about there being shortages this year so I ordered two cases. One case of 2 3/4 Fives and one case of 3 inch 3/5 blend. Looking at the prices of what's available right now makes the Boss purchase a great decision.

[@dillonmarkiewicz2751]

Which size did you end up liking more?

[@rancerich3326]

@@dillonmarkiewicz2751 I like the 2 3/4 5's the best. Only time I shoot 3 inch 3/5 blend is on very windy days and hunting geese.

[@stonecoward3037]

is there any difference in recoil between the 2 3/4 vs 3 inch

[@rancerich3326]

I have not shot very many of the 3 inch. I pay very little attention to recoil when I'm hunting. The 2 3/4 has less recoil than the 3 inch steel I have used in the past. @@stonecoward3037

[@michaelelliott9903]

What choke tubes do you recommend shooting with boss bismuth four divers and geese Open water? Thanks

[@davidh6396]

I use a factory full choke (.700) most of the time. Have used my extra full (.690) also. Pattern it on paper and see what works best. Ideally >70% patttern density at 40yds and >85% at 30yds.

[@michaelelliott9903]

@@davidh6396 Thanks

[@colton1301]

Any idea when they will be back in stock? Been trying to get 12 and 16 gauges for a while, cool vid

[@travisjacobson7126]

They can’t get ahold of primers so aren’t doing anything right now.. Hopefully soon though

[@charlietaulbee4977]

They have Ammo now

[@codybredeweg5973]

I loved them until I had problems with them not firing after getting wet. I’ve used a lot of hevi metals that get soaked and never had a problem

[@brandoncorley1514]

Been a fan of boss but havent shot it yet. Got my 1st case of shortys this season and looking forward to shooting them!