For more classes like this one, please visit the Benjamin Zander Center - www.benjaminza... Deborah Palmer, violin Johnathon Shin, piano Interpretations of Music: Lessons for Life with Benjamin Zander Dave Jamrog Audio/Video
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@clairepotter69754 жыл бұрын
When I practice violin I imagine Benjamin Zander on my shoulder singing, talking to me as I play, lose your inhibitions! talk to them! communicate! give up that weight! It really helps my playing.
@sedatakkas8427Ай бұрын
Its so beautiful
@trevorstolz85806 жыл бұрын
I am 46 years old, started playing violin as an adult (I played piano since childhood) and working on grade 7 Royal Conservatory of Music exam. So, I'm certainly not up to this calibre of musicianship, but these videos always make me feel very inspired. I feel like I can do it, even if it takes the next 10 years of my life. Thanks for the inspiration!
@dayaneoliveira11223 жыл бұрын
You can do it! 🙏🏼
@vetzrah44373 жыл бұрын
@Sir Feynman you can totally do it. I started when I was 31 and I’m playing Sibelius violin concerto now when I’m 45
@asshatteryengaged8136 жыл бұрын
The weight of the world with all of its tasks and tests bears down on all of us constantly. It's refreshing to hear an instructor consciously and consistently steer these artists' focus to the contrary. Thank you.
@TrumpetRecords6 жыл бұрын
What an amazing person Zander is ! He gives music a soul..
@almagirimai89315 жыл бұрын
No, he just paints it with vibrancy, joy and new enthusiasm. The soul of these pieces could never be denied,
@klassiknatur46114 жыл бұрын
yes, indeed
@basspoem2 жыл бұрын
Zander is a genius - a great soul - who makes us all rethink great music.
@alvinngchiwai6 жыл бұрын
What started as dull playing at the beginning ended up with flare and life and passion as if it were played by two different violinists of different league. Wonderful!
@mr.string44906 жыл бұрын
think exactly the same.. i was like "what the hell is happening?? " she even looked like having a bad time, and the second time was like ... "woooow!" totally a different person, attitud, everything was on a different level! amazing!
@dunuth5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.string4490 I think it wasn't the tempo either... or not only the tempo, but how he managed to shift her focus from her own imperfect technique (this is not a test) to the beauty of the music and her ability to convey it. It's Zander's leitmotif - exploiting the good in someone rather than punishing the bad, in order to bring out their greatness.
@moonshade02275 жыл бұрын
The tempo also changes expression. The violinist was quite excellent. She understood that immediately.
@dunuth5 жыл бұрын
@@moonshade0227 certainly... and it does make it harder now to enjoy some of the recordings I have :/
@arwo11434 жыл бұрын
Yooooo Have you seen the Tchaikovsky one That was a transformation
@musicfan238able6 жыл бұрын
He defines 'inspirational', the violinist defines 'adaptability' and they both define 'enthusiasm'. These sessions teach me so much about enjoying music. Thank you.
@Chihuahuauno17 ай бұрын
She actually got BETTER, without the music, I'm SHOOK!!!!!
@PeterHontaru4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen someone enjoy music as much as Mr Benjamin Zander. Love his energy
@gabriel1chan2 ай бұрын
Really makes a monumental change to the whole piece at the allegro tempo
@diciannove11006 жыл бұрын
FINALLY NEW VIDEOS!!!!!
@zamplify6 жыл бұрын
Thank God this man is here passing along his wisdom and insight.
@NavigatingThroughLife3146 жыл бұрын
The thing I needed for a good night's sleep.
@truelovecafecanada290dunda36 жыл бұрын
Ben Zander is one of the best manager and teacher I have ever seen.
@Rt-uu4yo Жыл бұрын
I love Zander’s Beethoven. It’s so exciting, so I won’t fall asleep in the ones he conducts. He is a great Maestro, both in conducting and in teaching.
@cristianpopa38662 жыл бұрын
This Mega Master Teacher is a Genius
@jonnamaria39486 жыл бұрын
Just beautiful! ❤️ I love how inspiring these videos are. I have noticed that every time I watch these I just smile like a crazy person. Makes me so happy to see a teacher with that energy and positivity!
@almagirimai89315 жыл бұрын
me too. grinning like an idiot!
@chriss63566 жыл бұрын
I have wanted this for sooo long!!! My favorite piece in the entire world!
@evamkaushik53922 жыл бұрын
I love how happy you must be to be saying this. And I wonder what happens when i come across that something that I had unknowingly been waiting for too.
@rgarlinyc6 жыл бұрын
Simply wonderful.... what a privilege to have a teacher like Zander!
@dihan61306 жыл бұрын
25:27 "One of the reasons, people play slowly, is because they think they can get more effect in that way. It's not true. You just have to pay more attention if you are doing it faster. " To Jascha Heifetz
@joshuaC.5 жыл бұрын
Seems popular for people to hate on Heifetz these days which is kinda sad
@anonymouspeoplesuck64035 жыл бұрын
Joshua C. I personally do not like Heifetzs style but i still admire him as a musician but i know people who absolutely hate him, its sad
@JeremyStreich5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaC. I love Heifetz's master classes... A lot to learn. I especially how he starts with hard scales, and gets worse scales until the player reaches their limits before moving on the to the piece. There is a video where he opens with asking for g-flat major in 10ths as the opening ask. He and the musician he was asking (one of his students I presumed) didn't act like he'd asked for anything out of the ordinary and just did it -- no blinking.
@Deyan_B_Travels5 жыл бұрын
First, he says to play a lot faster then, takes away the notation, then says not to look at the fingers while playing and if that wasn't enough, she has to smile and dance around! I would just die! :D Respect!
@MikeS75 жыл бұрын
He was trying to get her to play intuitively, saying hey you're in my class now you're no longer a student you're a performer. this wasn't a violin class
@Freakschwimmer3 жыл бұрын
Basically hes making her do a LingLing Workout.... doublespeed and Lindsay-Dancing at the same time
@suhasung3 жыл бұрын
I think the important thing of playing this piece is not only to have the right tempo, but also *to keep the beats solid* . Another important thing is, reducing the "romantic violin-like" phrase expression to keep the Beethoven's style itself as much as possible, and at the same time not losing the emotional expression (as Beethoven called *the lyrical concerto* ). For this reason, many violinists find difficult to play this piece. I worked on this piece from the position of the conductor + composer + violinist, and especially *from the conductor's point of view* , it's immediately clear how "tight" this piece must be played. It was hard to find the tempo, in particular, setting the tempo of *the g-minor part* was really difficult...!!! 😰 I referenced several recordings including this video (very helpful!) and read a lot of material about Beethoven while studying in Vienna, and I remember reading that he attaches great importance to tempo, but *can also be flexible if necessary* . So I decided not to keep the whole piece strictly at the same tempo. (I'm not 100% sure of my thoughts, and each person will have different ways of interpretation. If you are interested, you can watch the video, and your feedback will be very helpful to me. *A new cadenza* is also included.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn6uZICPf816o7s You may find recordings played at a fast tempo. However, it will be very difficult to find a recording that *moves you* by adding musical sensibility along with that tempo. Personally, I recommend listening to *the piano version (op.61a)* of this piece. The nature of the piano can help you to focus on the music itself beyond the physical style of playing the violin. And then pick up the violin again. 😉
@plumjam6 жыл бұрын
Got to love the Zander.
@renesolis26045 жыл бұрын
I learned from him in a TED Talk, wow so great music.
@mr555harv9 ай бұрын
Zander is using the tempo and expression of the goat HEIFETZ. To play at that speed requires great technical prowess. This young lady has the capability to reach for the Heifetz standard.
@alexsaldarriaga83184 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful teacher and a great human being. His tempo for the Beethoven Concerto is the same one used by Heifetz, Milstein, and Rosand. These artists were able to say something beautiful within a demanding tempo. Not easy!
@mediocreviolinist6 жыл бұрын
These videos are SO inspiring! From violin to erhu, I had to unlearn so much, and these videos are reminding me to really just enjoy the journey.
@raymondhummel5211 Жыл бұрын
Such wonderful one on one instruction! Brings out the fine points of the piece and how they can be improved.! Such enthusiasm, plus the contact with the audience. Not looking at the fingers, focusing on the audience instead.! Sounds to be like showmanship in the making!
@sneddley6 жыл бұрын
The tempo Benjamin Zander suggested for the opening matches that of the 1934 recording (posted on KZbin) with the Vienna Philharmonic conducted by George Szell, Bronislaw Huberman, Soloist.
@pauldavies60376 жыл бұрын
What a transformation Zander does it again Bravo!
@orchepiaviolinviola2 жыл бұрын
My dear teacher
@basspoem2 жыл бұрын
Zander: "Isn't that beautiful? Now life becomes a communication, instead of a test!"
@PlantiPal5 жыл бұрын
What beautifully intelligent insight about what we allow to drive our music.
@justinbill31014 жыл бұрын
Anyone help me? I cant stop smiling at any of his video🙁
@violintegral2 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting how in Mr. Zander's interpretation classes on the biggest concerti in the violin repertoire (Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Brahms, Tchaikovsky), he keeps recommending the same thing: to play a faster tempo! And coincidentally, the faster tempi that he suggests can all be seen in Heifetz's recordings. And that reveals the true reason why no other violinists dare to play the big concerti at such blisteringly fast speeds: because it requires the guts and technical precision of Heifetz.
@violinist866 жыл бұрын
Not a violin class but an interpretation class.
@markh.28994 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed it is, Isaac, and Benjamin Zander is teaching the students (and, us) lessons of life, and, in the case of the bright, young student-violinist, he merely held up a mirror infront of her...
@juliejules7780 Жыл бұрын
If everyone has their own personal interpretation, then why do they need this class? So they can all be carbon copies of Zander? I don't get it
@victordaley24915 ай бұрын
@@juliejules7780 at the end of the day Mr. Zander is only offering suggestions as to what the music should mean, as that comes from the heart of the musician. He is so knowledgeable in music theory and the lives of the composers who write the pieces in his interpretation classes, and he’s able to guide the students through a unique interpretation but he wants them to take these ideas and know how to build their own interpretations of the music they study for the rest of their lives
@juliejules77805 ай бұрын
@@victordaley2491 I prefer violin classes with technical advice rather than interpretation.
@victordaley24915 ай бұрын
@@juliejules7780That’s a valid preference, as they’re two types of classes. Ideally a performing musician should be taking separate technical and interpretation classes and getting the most out of each teacher by committing practice time to each skill.
@urshandschin51084 жыл бұрын
Very, very nice, interesting and deeply compelling video! Thank you for uploading!
@marcinwojak85636 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful violinist
@tall14dude5 жыл бұрын
Love this! Music is about expression; it's not a test. As a horn player, I focus A LOT on precision but a great director once told me "if you clam the notes, you're forgiven in advance 😁. Make the music beautiful and with feeling." Of course, what I heard was make a beautiful sound with feeling AND with all the right notes. 😉
@2planksand2wheels924 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, the way I think of it is this, we work on precision to make sure the music sounds beautiful and that we can voice it the way it’s meant to be, then we forget to think about the technique and we just think about the music itself.
@joanabauchamp11564 жыл бұрын
She is so inspiring! I love this episode
@almagirimai89315 жыл бұрын
Amazing transformation!
@kevinchristian965 жыл бұрын
i think the tempo on 11:27 is exactly the same with Heifetz tempo when he played this concerto
@KTDAngelo4 жыл бұрын
Chills literally every time !!!!!!
@JJSC00TS6 жыл бұрын
Apsolutely wonderful!!!
@axiomist10765 жыл бұрын
I LOVE these vids.
@Whately805 жыл бұрын
So do I... Totally addictive 😳
@nimrodshefer36496 жыл бұрын
New! I am so happy now!
@voenigs6126 жыл бұрын
Beautifully sounding violin!
@BlackHermit3 жыл бұрын
Great pianist!
@799riccardo5 жыл бұрын
love this man
@daviddemar87493 жыл бұрын
Well he pulled a different performance out of her. Bravo!
@dg5669 Жыл бұрын
I love this.
@sedatakkas8427Ай бұрын
I love him
@karlosed5 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow, I will try this in my rock&roll band
@lynnrixson30136 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That was amazing😊
@Quotenwagnerianer6 жыл бұрын
At least he resisted temptation to go full Karajan on her. Anne Sophie Mutter tells the story of how she first played the piece for him and only playing the first two bars of the opening octaves on which Karajan said: "Come back next year." Which she did, and then they recorded the work and made one of the best versions on the market. ;) By the way the age of the first performer was 26 and not 21. However Joseph Joachim who was the performer of the breakthrough performance was 12.
@rancecampbell25846 жыл бұрын
what an AWESOME violinist!!!
@pouriasirousian51284 жыл бұрын
11:20 Really, if you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly
@harrynking7773 жыл бұрын
Only if you play it in the manner of the fast tempo but slowly. It you play it in the manner of a slow tempo ie in the character of the slow tempo then you find it difficult to play in the quick temp.
@sungpackhong41443 жыл бұрын
@@harrynking777 you know this is a meme now, right?
@Gusrikh16 жыл бұрын
Very interesting...
@RochestersGotTalentbyPaulRefic4 жыл бұрын
very correct no 23 in the video thats what music should do love it
@alainrobynsds57356 жыл бұрын
une future reine du violon,haute admiration
@alainrobynsds57354 жыл бұрын
une promesse,un chemin de lumière
@calevy70996 жыл бұрын
One of the best things on earth.
@sunyongning6 жыл бұрын
非常喜欢!!
@abdulkadirbilgin383 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@michaelbrowder17594 жыл бұрын
I love Zander but this is not an Allegro ma non troppo, (Fast, but not too much), but straight out Allegro. So I don't question parts of the Benjamin Zander message, but no, I don't believe this is what Beethoven intended. I think we can find throughout the concerto first movement literature, examples of varying tempo, although Mr. Zander's initial point about a sudden break in continuity of tempo seems very valid.
@raoultak6 жыл бұрын
Thus: Heifetz had the correct tempo? Heifetz, Munch & BSO.
@alexsaldarriaga83184 жыл бұрын
Yes Raoul! You are correct. Heifetz, Milstein, and Rosand played it at the correct tempo.
@urshandschin51086 ай бұрын
I have always felt that there was something fundamentally wrong with Beethoven's Violin Concerto. In my opinion, Benjamin Zander has uncovered the reason for this. He convinces me throughout. Especially in the slow movement, the reproductions are actually all much, much too slow!
@joefagan93354 жыл бұрын
Great violinist and musician. That violin needs a new home in the country! It really doesn’t like to be played on the A and E strings.
@renesolis26045 жыл бұрын
Please Mr. video editor, review the videos and cut the 4 scenes the camera is down. Keep up the good work
@jackfan63896 ай бұрын
True! 😂
@andyking9573 жыл бұрын
4 minutes into: bravo she is quite playing this oldtime dense sound usually hearedin records decades ago. I doubt even Zander can improve her much exept details. I liked her much more than most of his pupils. She has some style some 20 years above her biological age...
@-Honeybee6 жыл бұрын
"Why are you looking here? The people are *here* !"
@franztorrellas42024 жыл бұрын
Hi is incredible
@carlosm.63486 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@s.strickland28343 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get a transcript of this session? There were too many inspiration nuggets to write down!
@inohope4 жыл бұрын
If you can play it slowly you can play it quickly, literally :D
@weixu65553 жыл бұрын
:-D buzz buzz
@harrynking7773 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. If you play in the character of the slow tempo, playing it fast may no be easy. It should be played in the manner of the quick tempo but slowly. She did this in a technical sense when she used very little bow in the slow tempo. The adjustment to fast tempo did not require her to make major changes to her economy of bow use. If, at the start she had played it in a manner suited to her original tempo the transition to fast tempo could have been very difficult to do.
@inohope3 жыл бұрын
@@harrynking777 I was just referencing a meme, it's a joke :) But thanks for the insight, I agree with what you wrote
@moonshade02275 жыл бұрын
Oh, that was Heifetz's tempo...!
@andreweverton1626 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear a recording at the tempi Zander is recommending. Does anyone know of one? The recordings I am finding on Spotify are all fairly traditional and slow.
@Quotenwagnerianer6 жыл бұрын
Try Christian Tetzlaff and David Zinman. Or this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqOcfKCdeauqg8U In the end no one does it exactly as fast as he first suggested. But there are interpreters out there who are going more for a more flexible approach, trying to approximate an allegro. Mr. Zander always tries to get people to play Beethoven closer to the original tempo markings. I think it's important that the new generation of students learn, that he is usually played too slow. Nontheless I think the Perlman/Giulini recording, as slow as it is, is one of the best on the market.
@trevorpsy6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@zugzwang20076 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYiwmZuEYt2HbKc has the work played with period instruments and conducted by Frans Brueggen, who has very much the approach recommended by Zander. Compelling soloist is Thomas Zehetmair, who knows exactly where he wants to go with each phrase.
Interestingly, Karajan had the same idea - but he slowed the whole thing down to 100.
@chiefgoose86824 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does that violin sound better than the average ?
@JXS63J4 жыл бұрын
In other words, Heifetz is right!
@lellelele32116 жыл бұрын
How is that empty seats in the front row?
@TheNeilsolaris5 жыл бұрын
At 6:32 the pianist picked up the violinist's tempo exactly, then Mr Zander made him play it much slower, saying he was playing it too fast.
@RaffySonata5 жыл бұрын
he's illustrating on how people change the tempo to adjust the piano, and he tried to force him to play in the same tempo to show how weird it is and that's where all of his tempo interpretation comes from
@TheNeilsolaris3 жыл бұрын
@@RaffySonata As I interpreted it, he's claiming the orchestra (or in this case the pianist) suddenly play at a much shower tempo at the F major tutti. Left to his own devices, the pianist would have maintained the same tempo. He forced him to play in a shower tempo, not the same tempo!
@sylvanmoir40946 жыл бұрын
I prefer it slow, and pulled around a lot too. Menuhins' performance is wonderful. Allegro may be a certain reading on the metronome - but musically we are always talking of an EFFECT. There are many small notes in the violin part- this before paganinni ; they gives the allegro effect at a slower theoretical tempo. Also Beethoven was not exact about his tempi marks - sometimes got them very " wrong" - i.e. estimated the metronome marking wrong - correction - it may be we understand his metronome markings totally wrongly - cf viz questo video , here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKrHaH-Nnpmqq9U Cor lumey!! Besides that, much of the piece has an improvisatory character, and rhapsodic character - in the violin writing. I don't see how that isn't lost and smudged and swallowed at the speeds Benjamin Zander recommends. Plus , see :kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpDXgXSMlJl4r7M and : kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5rVeJejnrGgjc0 I likle the passion though, though you should have responded to my friendly email Benjamin!!
@cvlen6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with you
@zugzwang20076 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting references to the "Authentic Sound" channel. On your preference for slow and pulled around a lot, there is no arguing with tastes. But then, as you go on to do precisely that, it seems fair to dispute the idea that Menuhin's way with this piece was wonderful. I did re-listen earlier to Menuhin with Furtwaengler. It really is preposterously slow and mannered, and the test of this is the business of dwelling on each tiny note, as if the unit of meaning in this piece were something smaller than a semi-quaver. The problem with this is not the time elapsed per bar, but the aimlessness, which no amount of "nobility" can disguise. This is a historical document of the bad kind.
@sylvanmoir40946 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@Richardriddickricard5 жыл бұрын
I miss Dina.
@musicproductioncentral45405 жыл бұрын
so, am i supposed to interpret a piece of music myself, or should i let somebody else tell me what my interpretation should be? Is there one "correct" interpretation that everyone should play? I vote for letting the musician interpret the piece. Music is art. There is no right, wrong, good or bad. There are just opinions.
@TejasM145 жыл бұрын
Well I would differ in opinion. There are no rules, but there sure are tried and tested guidelines. Good instruction can be transformative and can liberate an artist. Most students know that the role of a good teacher is not a tell you what you do, but rather raise the level of art by suggesting 'have you thought about this'.
@kristianl71175 жыл бұрын
As Mr. Zander said they are learning together. He is not forcing her to interperet in his way. He is merely showing his interpretation and if she likes his way, she will take elements from his interpretation and add it to her own. There is a lot to be learned from listening to different interpretations
@trevorpinnocky4 жыл бұрын
I applaud the thought and willingness to experiment, but the tempo is simply too fast, imo. I introduces a kind of brusqueness to the sound of the instrument, especially during string crossing that doesn't match the character of piece.
@izzybeth4 жыл бұрын
if she had a week or two to practice at 120, it would probably smooth out. I liked the new tempo myself.
@staywoke23506 жыл бұрын
Heifetz played it in right tempo
@zugzwang20076 жыл бұрын
It is really intriguing that Heifetz did, almost, play in tempo-Zander. But not quite. Even with Toscanini accompanying , there is a sense of something that is faster than treacle, but still rather static in its approach to the harmonic structure - a very beautiful flow from note to note, but not the sense of harmonic directional movement that Zander is offering to this student. Heifetz is more truthful to Beethoven than the very slow Menuhin-style tradition, but just as much of a marble monument. You can be a fast statue. Or you can be a little more free, but with a sense of direction.
@harrynking7773 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, her manner of playing at the beginning for too dainty and trite. However, technically it was correct for the fast tempo. This enabled her to play in the fast tempo without any problem. Technical and musical shortcomings seemed to vanish during the fast tempo playing.
@jwchavez4 жыл бұрын
Great! isn't that the tempo that Heifetz uses to play this concerto?
@tianhaoli67985 жыл бұрын
brett accompanied
@matthewarant3773 жыл бұрын
Can anyone supply me with a recording of the concerto with the corrected tempo? I have searched far and wide.
@pinkpluot5 жыл бұрын
Is that du pre in all these videos???? The resemblance is uncanny!
@meir45864 жыл бұрын
i can never tell the difference
@arwo11434 жыл бұрын
Hahahaaa I was 16,... and he was Menuhin
@orchepiaviolinviola2 жыл бұрын
This is Heifetz tempo!
@farmertice706410 ай бұрын
Heifetz played fast, but never THIS fast and would probably say, "You sound like you are in a race."
@MetalGuitarTimo Жыл бұрын
ok some weird perspective of mine: are great musicians just looking better than average people or do i just feel more attractred to talent? ( no, not because she is a girl )