Does analog suck in 2023?

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[@Frygon]

I recently went from DJI O3 to analog to fly tinywhoops and I'm in awe. It's like flying drones on mushrooms 🍄💫

[@RyanStonedonCanadianGaming]

Description is accurate to the trip I had. It only took me 3 hours afterwards to notice the TV was wavy. 😂

[@dustinpugh8222]

😂😂😂 I have an analog 65mm. But it's rough. I already can't see for sh!t. So the mob 8 o3 is great for me, it's not the smallest and lightest. But I can see. I also like the firefly nano baby 20 2s with a naked vista. Dax Neal makes super light digital drones. Thx for the vid!👍

[@SBvice]

@fpvvegan can confirm 🍄

[@johnwalter6410]

Digital is better. It just is. BUT. I love the punk rock shit too sometimes. Whooop!

[@billybonghackett]

The key to being good at analog is never try hd lol

[@BOTGRINDER]

haha

[@Moorde_FPV]

[@dronemagicnl4986]

So true😂😂😂

[@FPVKrash]

That river wreck was heartbreaking, homie.

[@GhostRyderFPV]

_"Bot low battery gawd da - nooo"_

[@willcfpv4146]

I love the rush of losing my video while I push my self tru the break up

[@bugsy742]

Using the Force brother ✊✊✊

[@TorontoFPV]

Lol nope I don't even like that!

[@brianemery8945]

Said no one. Ever

[@RobinDuckett]

The anxiety of flying over that lake with the battery that low 😂

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Bound to happen, huh?! 🤷

[@BOTGRINDER]

It was a liion i just didn't calibrate the osd, I probably had 8-10 minute of flight left.

[@BonesFPV]

After 3 years - I flew digital for the first time just a few days ago. I should not have done that.

[@tk-maker]

same here, once having 4K tv, the cctv screen is just obsolete, but both still useful

[@TantrickFpv-be6oe]

it was a month ago for me, the regret is real. Next couple weeks Im switching.

[@kingjam6433]

I'd honestly go straight to digital if i could afford it or was just starting out. Analogue is better than not being able to fly at all, it'll have a place until the cost difference is closer. Converting all my drones when they fly well is not worth it for me personally. Love your work!

[@Chillin-fpv]

I fly analog with a rapid-fire module. But I always power my camera and vtx through an LC filter. It makes the video so much better.

[@TheEviling]

Best part about analog, the gear you had years ago, work with the gear you buy today.

[@draxodrax8371]

Analog doesn't suck, I use both off and on, depending on where I fly and what's around me.

[@user-fc3sr9bo1r]

Was really looking forward to my first illegal flight on September 16, very disappointed that they pushed back RID. I guess i will just have to wait to be the criminal mastermind i know i can be.

[@CDRaff]

Another thing to consider is that location can make or break analog. I live out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in New Mexico and I get great video basically everywhere. Some of my planes with hefty VTXs have video that's so good it looks digital even at a couple miles out.

[@bugsy742]

👍 same here for me in Cornwall mate 🤗🤝

[@modquad18]

Same for me deep in the sparsely-habited Ozark mountains. Very clean area RF-wise, analog looks like a 4k DVD.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yeah, you get really good top end gear and analog cam look fantastic. It's not as sharp, but you can eliminate almost all of the rolling, fuzz, distortions, etc in the image and it's nice and clear. I think that challenges HDZero with ease, it's just not quite as sharp.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

​@@modquad18Ok, that's a stretch! But it does look good and clear, without all of the fuzz and distortions analog cam have with cheap gear. It's just not really sharp like HD. But, it can be very clear with good gear and away from cities. Have you tried DJI? With true crystal clear HD video? It's a far cry from clear analog. Not even remotely close.

[@shadowofchaosfpv4683]

I fly in the farmlands of SW Michigan and have little interference for miles. I use a TBS fusion module on my fatshark attitude v6.

[@offaxisfpv]

well built Analog is still KING. price and support beats video quality. i prefer the snow over the blocky latency issues HD has

[@ironlionfpv]

HDzero has no blocky latency issues 😉

[@shellbournian]

I was hardcore analog since '18 and just went digital a few weeks ago. I wish I could have got HDZero but that's the biggest problem with it - you can't get it. I wish more manufacturers would pick up the platform. It feels SO MUCH more responsive than anything else.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

And also, SO MUCH FUZZIER IMAGE! With so much less range with clarity! Plus, try flying even 50 friggin feet around the corner of a building. Buh bye image! Hello Rainbow 🌈 screen of DEATH ☠️💀!! Your done. Great for racing, but not good for pretty much anything else! Not when compared to Walksnail or DJI. No comparison. Plus, it's the most expensive! Least durable. If you primarily race. Perfect. If you do anything else... Buy something else cuz it doesn't come even close to the performance of the other two digital systems. Fuc#, you can't even fly 100 feet away if there's trees or bushes without getting tons of those colored sparklies that hurt your eyes. Range and penetration with clarity is virtually non existent! 🤷🤦 That's why they call it ANALOG2, because it's just like analog, but a little sharper. Too much dough to spend on soooooo little improvement over plain ole analog!

[@Michael-nu6fb]

Did you get walksnail?

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@Michael-nu6fb No DJI. Best digital FPV system, by far. Plus, you can get it used, in like new condition, for under $300 for V2 goggles, and they do analog superbly! Get URUAV analog adapter and the metal case.... About $30 for the pair. Just add your own analog module. A Caddx Vista can be bought for $140 brand new and it gives you 810p resolution and 120fps! Probably can find used Vistas too. Get into digital FPV for much cheaper than any other system, by far. And so analog great... Which Walksnail can't possibly do. 😎🤘

[@Joeyzoom]

I was sweating while watching that battery voltage dip during the long range flight 😓sorry for your loss bro, cheers 🫡

[@TorontoFPV]

#metoo

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yeah, I kept saying, 3.48 volts, ahh... Shouldn't you be on your way back? He was still quite a ways from himself when it was that low. Plus, if it was one of those true long range drones, some of those fly pretty crappy! Lol

[@GhostRyderFPV]

My wife ran into the man-cave when she heard the little girl screaming about voltage, only to learn it was me.

[@Joeyzoom]

@@GhostRyderFPV 🤣🤣💀💀

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

If it was li-ion he was fine even lipo can run down to below 3v a cell if you don't mind killing the pack. That looked like a hardware problem.

[@anthony-friskettiphoto1008]

Oh, snap, my first Bitgrinder shout out!

[@tk-maker]

all my small drone is analog (or hdzero/WS soon), all my big drone is dji digital. It is about the size of drone, effiency, noise level, weight, flight time, flying purpose. you choose the right VTX type. saw some guys just stick o3 into everything making me laugh 😂😂 you can dosent mean it is the best configuration, most regular person wont do that we count every gram for whoops

[@oscr_zen]

I swear flying analog feels like a video game, some type of tony hawk oldschool retro graphics on ps2, love it so much.

[@skyrotfpv]

A T-Rex and a Unify Pro 5g8 v.3 is all I need for most situations! 😃

[@EniokiFPV]

Nice vide Bot! I just bought an analog setup with the Cobra X V2 for tinywhoops and I am very happy. But like you said, its per use case. Definitely going digital in the future.

[@slowvoltage]

as a die hard analog head... I'm glad you did this one ❤ i deserve better fpv cyber vision.

[@TorontoFPV]

Analog is great I fly all three and when you have a nice clean set up analog is great. Especially since for the the price of HD you can 2-3x as many analog setups and have double setups to rip harder on :)

[@GhostRyderFPV]

You're looking through freshly squinted eyes for cybervision.

[@TavoFourSeven]

I agree. Love analog and trust it. But did just find out on my 03 the penetration is way better either without the rc also in the air or on a 10v pad from 9v. I changed both things and its actually impressive now.

[@TavoFourSeven]

Still Orqas for analog. Sorry if you couldn't fix them, anyone.

[@Deep_field]

This makes me feel better about splurging on the hdzero setup. I'll rip a pack and spliff for the explorer. RIP

[@dabfpv]

Analog is part of the game and 90% of my flights. I also have 3 drones for vista and 1 walksnail, but only analog gives me "this trip", which I like.

[@munsanghwang]

Same to me! with Analog i have more fun! With Digital its boring.

[@optikool]

I started out on analog and even though it was okay, it wasn't impressive. Later I went to DJI and found it much more enjoyable to fly, to a point. I didn't like the cloudy blocks when signal degradation happened , and the latency just kept F'ing with my mind. Then HDZero came out and it fixed the cloudy blockiness and latency. Obviously it's not as clear as DJI, when DJI has a clear picture and is not cloudy, but HDZero Digital enough to were I get an amazing picture that is responsive. Been on HDZero ever since and 11 out of 12 of my quads are HDzero, after converting my last DJI quad. I still have one 4 inch LR quad on analog, but I'll be converting that to HDZero once the new 20x20 1w VTX comes out...

[@v1nc3nz05]

DJI pilot checking in. And yes, I want a tiny whoop.

[@stilesfpv1382]

That damn defeated sanity shirt is sweet man. One of my favorite bands

[@Gauntletbloggs]

Awesome vid as always man, RIP drone going for a swim. There definitely isn't the same range of digital tinywhoops but the betafpv pico can be configured with a DJI 03 and thats a 45mm

[@FPVGaps]

Analog racing is definitely not dead the magic rainbow from hdz proves that 😅

[@FPVGaps]

@GrauFPV the rainbow in a crash isn't worth it for me. I also lost video and had to troubleshoot it only to find out I had to reflash the vtx analog just works 🤷‍♂️

[@tubsucks]

I knew it, told every one I hated my sharkbyte initially but after flying it for two weeks straight and trying analogue again (one battery pack) I just couldn't do it anymore.

[@manvsbando]

Love your videos bot❤️😂 You should try Foxeer T-Rex + Rush Tank (Mini or Solo), analog will be really good

[@knarftrakiul3881]

The iflight chimira 7 pro was my first drone. Bought the kit. With dji gog and commando 8 900 mhz elrs

[@1RemotePilot]

I lost all contact with my Grinderino at the "maximum posted **cough** speed limit" roughly 200 agl, and it survived without even a scratch. Love this frame!!! ☄

[@GarethDix]

I hadn’t realised that French forest flying video was that famous… that’s also the first time I saw FPV and then it took me like 7 years to finally do it

[@TheMaxmelner]

Everyone’s biggest fear, cutting out over water. Honestly curious about flywoos build quality now 😅

[@BOTGRINDER]

lol nah this quad has done dozens of flights and has been rebuilt several times, it put its work in.

[@hobbyistnotes]

I have started flying few months ago obviously as complete newbie to the hobby I highly underestimated how expensive this hobby is... For me to even understand if I want to fly it was way more convenient to get Analog whoop for ~100$ with cheap ~100$ box goggles. I have found Analog to be way better than most people show it on KZbin especially if we consider that digital whoops are like x2 in price... Price is the biggest enemy of digital systems... As fresh pilot I have crushed sh*t out of my whoops and that could be way more expensive for me with Digital considering that stack itself is way bigger and I bet way easier to break (correct me If I am wrong) I have DJI on my 3" and 5" quads and I still think for indoor newbie pilot flying and practicing Analog is still a very good option especially if we take in consideration the cost of repair and frustration related to overall expense of being in this hobby...

[@Michael-nu6fb]

Dude. Dont worry about digital. People ran analog for years and were having the best time. I run analog. I think once you start digital you cant go back though. Its kinda like how we used to play games 10 yrs ago with crappy graphics and thought they looked amazing. It's all perspective.

[@hobbyistnotes]

@@Michael-nu6fb Last week I have made myself new 5inch with analog VTX and it's way worst in image quality and penetration than my DJI Vista, but same time price of the quad is like DJI Vista itself and I noticed that I no longer care about crashing as much as I would with DJI.

[@jasonsuffolk]

Something about the analog picture i really like is how the colours pop and seems to be more contrast

[@Bustinsmith]

Yo cuz! I really enjoy your videos. You crack me up 😅 idk half the words you’re saying (terminology barrier) but your editing and you being you make your channel something I look forward to after work. ❤️

[@BOTGRINDER]

haha thanks for watchin

[@projetcaribou7249]

analog 4 ever man !!!!!

[@LovemyEvoque]

That was fantastic information for my newbie rear

[@dougtutt2720]

Gotta say I agree largely with your observations especially about precision freestyle maneuvers with sketchy reception sucking, but I went dji when I decided it was time to transition from analog and picked up the fpv kit with the v2 goggles and installed vistas on a couple of 5 inch freestyle quads, but I’ve found I have problems with the ultra hi def picture that system delivers too. I figure I’ll get used to it over time because although I’m intrigued about your mentioning similarities between hd0 and analog I refuse to invest in another platform at this point so I end up flying analog 90% of the time. For me it’s fine. Btw 3 1/2 inch Grinderino sounds good.

[@shadowofchaosfpv4683]

Analog is great! Losing your quad in the river sucks! New battery from GNB too!

[@vicpro1]

I got a whoop and goggles with Walksnail Avatar, seems fine, I only have issues with my Jumper T-Pro v2 and ELRS

[@ismaudiovisual]

hello from Brasil... please continue making this great content

[@jlarson42]

Analog has its place for sure. Just found Angry Don FPV, great Caesar's Ghost he's got some super lightweight builds. Ain't getting that with any digital system. Love my DJI system, my old eyeballs appreciate being able to see. I fly HDZero in a 2 inch micro and a racer. Very happy with it. When HDZero come out with a smaller freestyle vtx, that will be awesome for that system. 🤓

[@petrokemikal]

Really it boils down to the one thing.. If you fly analog you will be absolutely fine.. But the moment you switch, youre done... Its just a better experience.. You will hate going back..

[@BOTGRINDER]

This is so true.

[@OCD_FPV]

Haha I love your videos freaking hilarious and informative. I left FPV back in 18 and just got back into and I have to say I feel like analog frustrations were part of the reason. With Digital flying is so much more enjoyable.

[@asslord]

RIP little 4inch, in your watery grave. ☠

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

That analog breakup when signal is weak is horrible on HDZero goggles specifically :) HOpefully Carl can fix it one day. Violent black diagonal lines are not happening on normal analog-specific goggles, it just slowly shades to snow instead. I wanted to use HDzero goggles for analog, but back to Orqa cuz of that reason. One day ill switch to HDzero completely, but poor analog-hdzero performance making it more difficult to gradually transfer.

[@xyic0re714]

that transition screen never gets old! more transitions

[@user-fc3sr9bo1r]

Im very poor and there is just not enough options for digital just yet, once more companies start making more digital equipment the price will drop because of compitition, soo gonna wait a lil while before i switch.

[@propabilityfpv]

Show security your whoops and not your 5" quads 🤣 That's an excellent tip I never even thought of!

[@pheargoth]

5:15 did the dude in the truck actually duck? I'm sure there's a dude looking at the drone as Bot heads over the truck

[@sylvanlight120]

I'm an HDZero and reluctant analogue user, but I'm sure there's an 03 air unit 1s whoop bnf out there.

[@casper01]

DJI pilot... but i use Fatsharks when flying anything analogue.. I fucken hate the DJI analogue adapter.. 🤫😶

[@DronzenFPV]

Its true.... not only do i have to fly my whoops in analog.......i have a old ass set of Dominator V3's lol....its rough but i love flying whoops!

[@TheblackraddishFPV]

My Dji Pavo is a pretty amazing whoop.

[@Loophole120]

Hey @BOTGRINDER , tbh to make this “is analog good in 2023” . Is only use the latest analog vtx and cameras and the better stuff . Because HdZero has specific camera’s that will work with their video feed but are higher end then any analog , but analog is more open to other people . Like an open source . So yeah there is crappy vtx and crappy cameras and antennas. But if using the best of the best for analog and comparing that to other companies like hd zero which is using the best of the best for their product. Is the only way to give them a fair comparison. Yeah shitty analog is garbage . But usually only cost about 100 bucks to have a flying machine . So it’s hard IMO

[@shadowofchaos8932]

But how do you REALLY FEEL about losing that quad and battery? Looks like you lost a prop.

[@ThunderFarter]

Nice T-shirt, where did you get it?

[@AbdulAleemShekhani]

How Miriam Webster defines sucking!?!? STILL THE BEST FPV VLOG OUT THERE! Love you Bot, keep happy brother.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

All my whoops were analog until walksnail and HDzero. All my bigger ones were vista. But might make some bigger one walksnail maybe a HDzero one.

[@the-technician]

Hey bot. I used to watch you when you were first getting started years ago. It was my prime in fpv. Ive since lost interest but the mini drone i got my kid for Christmas completely sparked that interest back so i am starting to put together pieces for me to start flying again. I remember you used to be sponsored by bqe. Their one frame looks so sick. Do you still recommend them? If not, which 5 inch frame for a reborn fpv newbie?

[@gandaulf_fpv6925]

I like how you put this one together cool man.

[@BOTGRINDER]

Hey thanks!

[@philipjenkinsDjiflyer]

Man I put together a 6s and I put analog on it and it scared me a little I fly walksnail I get what you mean thanks for you videos bro

[@flyingskull]

Still fly 90% of the time analog having vista and o3 drones :D

[@jojo42069]

I did some crazy repeating fpv signal shit few months back and used Clearview 2.0 on a plane receiving 5.8 from a long range 7" and transmitting it down to a clearview 3.0 on the ground. It was good. But other than that specific usecase I wouldn't use it :D

[@dmahe76]

A nice walk in the park of FPVtech! Analog quads are much lighter, tougher and cheaper to build or repair. I fly HDZero and Analog on whoops, DJI and Analog on bigger stuff. I really enjoy the visual quality of the digital stuff but analog tinywhoops got quite a lot more range and penetration than the HDZero ones. it is not even funny. I like DJI range and visual .. but I hate the captive ecosystem that comes with it. A robust HDzero AIOboard with decent range would make me happy. HDZero googles are HEAVY too!

[@Krash_fpv]

Saw a pretty cool whoop with a naked 03 air on it and it looked amazing in flight but im not a dji guy i need to buy good googles one day these fatshark scout dont cut it

[@kurtzFPV]

I have two 03 quads and multiple vistas, but probably 50% + of my flying is analog using tiny whoops and a couple of inexpensive racers, since I am attempting to learn racing. I love the view from digital, but I really don't think about it too much once I take off. I still geet immersed in the flying.

[@catch22mania]

Losing a beautiful Explorer like that really sucks! Maybe Flywoo can sent you another one. It looks like a receiver problem to me (ELRS on board?). ELRS receiver are great, but I wouldn't use them on my favourite & LR quads (anymore).

[@AtradiesInc]

Bro I had a cineracer 20 that was dji caddx and badass

[@crazicat]

Learned to dump bad analog and replace it with good analog years ago. Have a few quad with digital but am not gonna replace or stop flying analog, I still like it along with my digital stuff.

[@BOTGRINDER]

good analog is really good.

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

The Whoop was only on 100mw it seems and it had a better camera and vtx, than that Speedybee 5" drone you were flying at first. I think analog is fine, once you find the right antenna combo's it seems. I have both a few digital freestyle drones and a bunch of analog drones. As much as i got the video quality to pretty damn perfect especially when flying around in an medium area with a small vtx that i had to also upgrade that also lol. One thing i noticed when trying out different combos to try and get a better and better picture.. I had a bunch of good name brand antenna's to try from, they were mostly all both TX/RX antenna's. For some reason some antennas just work better as a drone antenna or vice versa, and some just didnt work well at all, but have worked fine before on other builds. So i feel like because the analog video going thru the FC, is so sensitive to RF interference, that some antennas will just work well than others with certain setups.. However, like you said there's kind of nothing like digital, it just gives you that much confidence in flying and knowing that the video isnt going to breakup for no reason here and there even with great reception, only analog seems to do that. I just feel more connected and i think it makes it feel like its more controllable bc you can just see so much more. Im currently using O3 air unit and DJI V2's and the quality of the video and the video signal strength on stock antennas, both sides, is really amazing. I have a gps on my drone and I cant wait to be able to fly it more and more in Acro mode. I also have an Avata im going to change the controller to M mode i think and practice alittle on that just, its light, plastic, pretty durable, has the o3 style video link and isnt as crazy powerful as my 5" drone even on 4s lol.. I love HDZero and i will probably get a set in the future i think. Ill have to see how it works out..

[@mikebergman1817]

Bot quietly- "Why does this quad fly like shit?"😂

[@alperenozgur]

most high-entific comprasion i see "whatever" 🤣

[@powersv2]

You gotta spend like $200 to make analog and dji to work or you have to buy cheap analog goggles. It sucks that the whoops with o3’s brown out.

[@dabee.473]

Fun/racing analog, cinematic/job dji

[@metaldirtnskin]

yeah, that DJI video quality is a drug that's hard to quit. just like so many other not so great companies that a lot of us end up giving money to against our better judgment. having said that, despite all my DJI quads I still have the ol' analog Skyzones for racing and whoops.

[@mccrash8358]

Between price and warning of static to let you know you getting to far or around to much i'm not leaving analog any time soon id rather save for a go pro before ever switching

[@mrmagoo600]

I’ve always flown analogue I like the feel of it being on the edge. HDZ is winning my points at the moment for the next system Im gonna move to. An updated HDZ test video on your experience using it for so long now would interesting to many. Might even spur me to making the switch Good work and entertaining as ever 👊

[@Nanoblaster77]

Tailspin was the shit back in the day

[@birdman316]

dang bro sorry bout the kwad loss....looks like it failsafed due to a low voltage situation... i dont have deep enuff pockets for digital so analog is my gig lol!

[@BOTGRINDER]

nah it was a liion, 3.5v is plenty something happened to the prop or motor.

[@birdman316]

@@BOTGRINDER oo ok... either way it blows when ya lose one and cant get it back...

[@BOTGRINDER]

@@birdman316 i know i hate water haha

[@ScuzCuz]

Go on a Rescue mission with another drone, just attach a magnet on a string and hopefully Davey Jones doesn't pull that drone into his depths as well and you can save your now water logged drone. Or build on your Grinderino, whatever, do you hommie. Thanks for the vid!

[@MrXalmans]

R.i.p. Quad copter sleeping with the fishes.

[@72newera]

the mid range flight 😂

[@BaskenFPV]

We need a new quantum video system

[@turboomni848]

with your HDzero goggles with the touted DE interlacer real time you should be getting the best analog has to offer. With lesser goggles your results may vary.

[@RickJamesFPV]

I'm spoiled. I statrted FPV on digital in 2021. Now I am strictly HDZero goggles and DJI I'm glad I never had to deal with Analog. Thanks Bot!

[@maddercat]

if I stop crashing and get a spare $600-1000 I'll go digital, I don't see a point putting more $, maybe even twice the cost of the quads I'm building on a quad that I'm bashing the hell out of. lol I'm building quads for like $150, some digital vtx's cost that much, I'd rather build a whole new drone I can bash the hell out of.

[@danielvasiliusus5658]

I fly analog and you're right,it kinda sucks but what can I do about it

[@oDIRECTORo]

I dont fly a quad but i can tell ya that the analog for some reason feels more realistic.

[@plop386]

no it doesnt. i fkin love analog. at least as long as the open source projet concurencing dji is not ready yet. :)

[@IzzyBoop]

the RR frame in things that suck xD

[@DavidCravenbiskitsNcravey]

My broke a$$ still rolls analog. Maybe one of these days I'll try some HD.

[@zappex92]

Ratel 2 cam best !

[@Krash_fpv]

When u fell into the water u dropped to 13.0 v and once below 3.2 per cell it literally dropped out sky

[@starsstripesjacket]

I fly hdzero, walksnail, and analog. Of all the systems i prefer hdzero for the locked latency and image is better than analog. Walksnail is on my long range quads for the pretty view. I still fly analog on my sub 2" quads purely for penatration, 200mw on hdzero just isn't enough for me.

[@KWADFLYFPVproductions]

The bs with DJI is they give you just enough and nothing u need or what. Always change goggles with ne systems, give you run around with each new unit, forget about the about the rc2 drop out when headset loses signal. Fk dji. Unfortunately I'm stuck with them at the moment, but soon..