Bottom End is Fully Assembled! - Ford V10 4V Build Ep. 10

[@biy_buildityourself]

Hey guys, just want to clarify one point. If you made it to the end of the video, minute 26:48, we are NOT talking about Todd Warren, from Apocalypse Performance. He's been nothing but helpful to us throughout the build. This "other guy" is someone else out in Montana and has no connection with Todd.

[@timh6977]

Awesome job guys!! Just finished doing a timing kit, oil pump and lash adjusters on my Aussie 260 Boss 5.4. Some things I learnt along the way. If you buy a Navigator timing kit the left hand or driver side large sprocket is 6 degrees retarded compared to the right hand side. Something to do with pollution. Aussie motors are set up even on each side. My cams are crow Performance cams with 220 @ 50 timing in and ex. And 435" lift. I advanced these cams to 108 in and 112 ex with a 110 lsa. The performance improvement was worthwhile with no loss in idle quality. There is a rollmaster adjustable kit with Iwis chains available in this country at outlaw speed shop (online). The primary chains are not included though. Use the genuine Ford ones for Navigator or Aussie Boss 260/290. Also use genuine cast iron primary tensioners. Also you will need an aftermarket passenger side secondary tensioner. Buy a Melling 3v oil pump as the gerotor set is larger to account for the vct. And the Melling pump actually has a cast iron backing plate. Use 40 GT500 exhaust lash adjusters as they apparently provide the top end with more oil pressure. Something you will need with 2 extra cylinders and almost double the stock rpm capability!! Good luck with the build, will be following along keenly!! Tim Australia.

[@damianlindsey6177]

​@@timh6977man thank you for this information. I literally just picked up a navigator 5.4 for 200 bucks for my little Ford ranger. I'm wanting to do a screw blower for wow factor

[@MrDrag1on]

So you guys wont let me see de cam 😢.. still needs grinding right?

[@mathieusynnott8915]

Richard Holdener just accepted to do the dyno tune on this i asked him on live chat! He said that he would love to and to contact him back!!!! Thats awsome!!!!

[@biy_buildityourself]

woah! we'll definitely reach out!

[@mathieusynnott8915]

@@biy_buildityourself Its definitively something we all want to see!!!

[@mchristr]

I would recommend you guys to our HR department (I work for an aircraft manufacturer) for some open engineering positions but you're both too talented. The corporate world would be a waste of your skillset and would eventually deplete your soul. I'm loving it whenever you fire up the mill and make something unique.

[@isaiah4510]

I don't know that I could say that better! You gentleman are on the right path. Just keep pushing hard and make sure if you need time you take it

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

I’ve e been setting here refreshing for 4 weeks straight! Nice to see another video drop!!

[@biy_buildityourself]

Hope it was worth the wait!

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

@@biy_buildityourself hell yeah it was! Awesome work, guys!

[@delagto_5340]

Og in the building haha

[@Edward135i]

What a gem of a channel, really makes me wonder why the aftermarket hasn't been making hi-performance parts for this engine, there's got to be millions of these engines in junk yards for dirt cheap.

[@LILALIZEFLAME]

Never heard of this being done. What a sick idea, N/A DOHC V10 American style. About time I say

[@powerviking]

That cardboard list is legit. Will be stealing for my own use!

[@biy_buildityourself]

Never fails! Haha

[@91Wildcat700]

there is no way you guys only have 2010 subscribers this content is amazing. You're doing something really really special, something that so few people would ever dare to attempt and its almost done! love this stuff guys

[@Prestiged_peck]

It's all a conspiracy!!! NHRA , mopar, and GM Don't want you to know how much better an overhead cam engine can be!!!!

[@260bossute]

dam you 100 percent did what I wanted to do over here in Australia! You sir, are a legend! Feel like making another??

[@stevenpopovich3587]

Absolutely killing it loving the triton v10 love and cant wait to see this thing fire up

[@curtisgore1611]

I still can't believe yall went to these great lengths to build this motor. Yall are heros of r and d.

[@-MacCat-]

I've just caught up on the whole build series and it's been fun watching you guys. I can't wait to see this motor "turn a tire"!

[@evoluke1069]

Im loving watching these videos guys, thank you for documenting your progress. I love to see how you make mistakes, learn, adapt, build and overcome. This is real engineering!

[@FangOfTruth]

Your channel just popped up in my feed. I have watched majority (fabrication ones) of this build. I always heard the Triton was junk. A couple of my takes which probably have been stated elsewhere are the following. I would have pressed in short tubes for oil galley connections. Second a deeper groove for better penetration of welds connecting head halves together. Interested in if the heads split at welds later on. But I like your approach and methods with a hindsight point of view. Great job so far.

[@5.43v]

This makes the coolant lines look muuuch cooler

[@christopherwilson3505]

Wow. This is one of the coolest builds I've ever seen. Slowly accumulating parts to do a low buck 4.6 2v build, had half a thought about those v10s but then I figured finding cranks and heads/cams for them must be a lot harder. Are those heads and crank custom or does someone actually make them? I absolutely can't wait to hear this thing, going to be absolutely righteous.

[@landrelarose745]

Wow, what a project you guys set for yourselves. Yes, it certainly is quite a project. I'm not able to tolerate nit hearing it start as of yet. I additionally want to discover how well those passages will be in those heads.

[@-_____-]

Great results, I'm so happy for you guys. Can't wait to hear it run!

[@lowfatedes]

This is definitely my favourite build on youtube

[@fourcam150]

Can't wait to hear this thing scream! 💪

[@MarshMellowF450]

Favorite channel on youtube

[@gordonagent7037]

Hi guys, look I’m rarely lost for words but what you guys here is bloody incredible. I would love to know more about your backgrounds etc, I’m up to this episode but I know you have finally kicked this engine in the pills and got it running. How about doing an episode on yourselves for us to see, your knowledge far exceeds your years and I think it would be a great viewing for us. Incredible work guys, you are a credit to backyard engineers and this is one hell of an effort, we’ll done

[@rudimerm7686]

Kudos: Everything is thought through from a fitment, installation, and functionality standpoint. Amazing engineering, design, and machining unlike the popular KZbin channels that do hack jobs.

[@RJon2006]

The algorithm stopped recommending your videos to me and I have notifications turned off for KZbin. This is awesome progress! Looks really good. Well done guys!

[@biy_buildityourself]

Damn you algorithm!

[@AK_Ray]

Saw you guys get a shout out on Richard Holdner's channel. Keep up the great work.

[@McNairboys]

This is awesome! I am a huge fan of the Ford V10 I'm excited to see the results. Keep up the good work!

[@matswallsten1628]

First time watching you guys, have to say that I really enjoyed the professional approach both in the build and in the editing, perfect tempo. Looking forward to follow your project 👊

[@biy_buildityourself]

Awesome, thank you!

[@Jimmysidecarr]

Awesome! Love this channel! You guys are killing it! In case I missed it from before, what oil pump have you specified for this build? OE 6.8L V10, Cobra high volume, aftermarket, billet gears?

[@biy_buildityourself]

Thank you for the support! We are using a Melling M360 and we swapped in billet gears. Check out episode 8 of the series where we break down all the parts!

[@802Garage]

Really awesome stuff guys! The type of project I want to do when I have the resources. Cannot wait to see this thing run.

[@shaunpc2512]

You guys freaking blow me away with your attitude and your ingenuity during problem solving. I honestly can not wait to hear this engine on song 👌🏻

[@LoBelly]

Fantastic Project - Great to see your process and how you go about solving problems. Can see your enthusiasm. Thanks for sharing your journey and your insights along the way. 👍👍

[@yeahthatswhatsup4277]

if you guys have room it would be cool if you did a 10 to one header they sound great and are apparently pretty good performance wise

[@biy_buildityourself]

That would be sweet! We haven’t figured out exhaust yet but we’ll make sure it’s something that pops when we do. 👌🏽

[@sepg5084]

10 to 1 is cool, but is more complicated and harder to package. 5 to 1 equal length for each bank then an x-pipe seems more feasible.

[@Prestiged_peck]

​@@biy_buildityourself you could also do tuned length 180⁰ headers. What chassis is this going into again?

[@Bloodcurling]

@@sepg5084 (5:2 & 5:3) into 1. Yes they won't be even. Diagram three firing order to see if the other side should be the opposite or the same

[@gafrers]

Great work. Glad to see an update.

[@DAVIDSMITH-nl4ff]

I love this project. You guys are genus cant wait to see it on the dyno good luck on your 700hp goal!

[@biy_buildityourself]

Fingers crossed!

[@HammerWrench]

Thanks for the update video. You guys are amazing with your skills and knowledge.

[@mitchellfay5725]

Sitting at Midnight chow in Kuwait watching this!🎉

[@biy_buildityourself]

Awesome!

[@heith85]

I got my 2v cams from him. It took over half a year and I was sure it had lost my money but they showed up.

[@biy_buildityourself]

Just wanted to clarify that we aren't talking about Todd, if that's where you got the cams from. We were referring to the guy who was supposedly machining the cam cores for us.

[@vintagespeed]

she's getting close....! very cool. i'm looking to get some 3v cams made up for mine, can you let us know who made yours once you have them? keep up the great work.

[@biy_buildityourself]

We'll be in touch when we have the cams in our hands!

[@brad3139]

this build is so cool! been awesome seeing it come along and i cant wait to hear it run 🔥

[@Kryptkeeper911]

These videos just keep getting better and better. Can’t wait

[@anthony.bertges2407]

Pretty cool build

[@MalcolmV8]

Awesome build, I love building stuff myself and really appreciate the passion. Great job guys.

[@challenger818]

I love finding channels like this. You guys are doing amazing work! Keep it up and 12 months from now you'll have 100x more followers than you do now.

[@benrobinson9136]

The hype for this is so real...

[@mikealbert728]

Very cool build. I worry about the crankshaft. Even though it's forged, 4"+ stroke is a lot with split pins. Ford actually tested a 4v 5.8 v10 that was basically a 4.6 with 2 extra cylinders. They went with an odd fire common pin crankshaft. Keep up the good work.

[@biy_buildityourself]

There have been a couple builds making lots of torque on the stock crank, but no one spinning RPM. So we get to see what happens!

[@huddleberryfin]

I’ve been watching your series non stop since I found it. Great job guys! You happy with your choice in mill? I’m debating one of these older machines vs a newer smaller benchtop unit which seem to be pretty capable these days.

[@joebeezy9471]

I love how you guys are showing every little step and explaining it all in great detail. I am preparing for my first engine build myself, I have learned so much from you guy. This information you all are sharing is just incredible. I cannot thank you enough! How did you all learn this? Is this something you just researched during this process?

[@mikegreen2229]

One thing to note when using black AN fittings for hot coolant- cheap anodizing on some fittings will turn them GOLD after some heat cycles. Seen it several times when I worked at a hot rod shop. XRP is a brand I have seen NOT change color from 200° coolant. Edit: didn’t know you would be welding these, the gold showed up pretty quick lol

[@Keasbeysknight]

This is awesome! So excited for you guys, it's so close!!

[@merkyworks]

Very cool build, great job

[@Bloodcurling]

You're using a split pin crank to turn 8000? I'm not sure that's wise. However. I'm not sure anyone makes a straight pin crank for the Ford V10

[@rootbeer666]

Can't wait for the finished thing 😉

[@bdkw1]

Do you think a split pin crank will hold up to 8K? Where is the harmonic on those? Going odd fire might be in your future.

[@biy_buildityourself]

I guess we'll find out lol

[@BlàckÐèàth]

Do you think that hard mounting the AN fittings into the manifold may pose risk of leaking due to thermal expansion of the heads (likely moving up and outward from the manifld)? Love the concept very curious how it holds up and performs.

[@biy_buildityourself]

The fittings are not hard mounted to the manifold, they have o-rings...Double o-rings 😜

[@Martin.ac.85]

Yes! I was waiting for this. Awesome project guys, wish you the best.

[@CoyoteFTW]

Just found this build subbed following closely

[@Blaqandbloo22]

This build is awesome, I learned a lot so far through the series about these engines. Lowkey using this to help me build my forged 4.6 3v. Keep up the good fight, guys. Although, I'm curious what ECU you'll be running this off and how it can be tuned.

[@biy_buildityourself]

We'll be running a Fueltech FT550 on this engine.

[@lubzdalas8277]

Man u living a dream bros❤

[@Dingleberry454]

Isn’t your issue going to be the crank when you push more power. Specifically the split pin? I’ve read all over they snap and when they do it’s always there

[@biy_buildityourself]

You have?? Can you share some links? We’ve never heard of one instance where the split pin crank failed on these motors.

[@Dingleberry454]

@@biy_buildityourself I’d just looked into the ford motors for a bit to decide which one I’m choosing to build and read a few shitposts on the 6.8 but looking back they’re early on in the years (probably just a lack of support and assuming) common comparison was the viper engine compared to the 6.8 as their argument. looked at the crank myself and leaned with a grain of salt they might be right/paired with the utter lack of boosted 6.8 vids. As it is visually the weakest part. Just curious if/where you found out otherwise lol or have you not even heard a word about this till me LOL because it doesn’t actually happen😂

[@cotynietling2567]

Just found this channel cant wait to hear this run what is it going? Man id love to have that engine in my 99 f250 lol tht thing be hauling ass

[@popeyeman69]

Don't you need a water exit port on each sealed part of the heads? Looks like water will go in, but where will it exit?

[@stevenhigginbottom5261]

Great work guy’s. Keep up the great work!

[@joebeezy9471]

Omg. You guys got scammed?! This is awful!! I hope you all have nothing but good luck from here on out. You 2 deserve it. Very genuine guys

[@vinceevans3219]

Great job guys but you shouldn't use assembly lube on rings You should use breakin oil or a good quality mineral oil

[@biy_buildityourself]

Keen eye! We actually used ATF, they are both the exact same shade of red 😆

[@lsjess4147]

Wonder what it would sound like with a flat plan crank

[@bryantday7334]

Love it

[@LynnTwinCustoms513]

Sweet build had to subscribe!

[@DrGibs347]

Hey serious question, what piston to bore clearance did you use for those forged pistons? Im in the middle of a 5.4 navi build and can't find that info anywhere.

[@biy_buildityourself]

The spec sheet from Traum called for 0.0035, but after honing the block, clearance came out to about 0.005, so a bit over. We spoke to a rep at Traum that told us it wouldn’t be a problem though. Also our pistons are made from 2618, if you’re going with 4032 pistons, clearance spec may be different.

[@ct1762]

why not get the cylinders bored instead of just a hone on already worn cylinders or was there virtually no wear?

[@buby58]

How is the coolant circulating back from the blocked off coolant ports in the head?

[@Skwisgar2322]

That manifold is neat, but it has got to weigh 3 or 4 times what it needs to. Why not just make your own crossover pipe with the necessary shape and fittings?

[@Skwisgar2322]

You are also not supposed to use just one side of a ring filer. That defeats the whole purpose of keeping the ring ends parallel. You are supposed to squeeze the ring together on the disk when you grind them...

[@heyhayhay247]

This is so dope

[@wkjeeping9053]

If those are ARP, were is the torque lube for the nuts to get the right torque spec?

[@Levibetz]

For future reference, 3d printed taper ring compressors work great!

[@biy_buildityourself]

Good to know!

[@lynndragoman2454]

Why not use NPT and tubing for a much cleaner fit and ease of assembly/disassembly?

[@biy_buildityourself]

To replace the AN line? We have to look into that.

[@lynndragoman2454]

@@biy_buildityourself your water lines

[@davidhowe1654]

Awesome build, I've been a fan of Ford's v10 for a few years now. What engine bay will it fit into, and how much will the finished engine weigh?

[@biy_buildityourself]

Well, we're going to fit it into whatever we put it in lol. We'll have to measure its final weight when it's done and see!

[@IvyMike551]

At 13:1 compression, what minimum octane fuel are you going to have to run? Can you get by with 93...? I've been told that anything beyond 11.5-12'ish needs more than 93..?

[@biy_buildityourself]

We are lucky to have E85 readily available, so we will be running that.

[@IvyMike551]

@@biy_buildityourself Hmmm, didn’t know E85 would run on higher comp ratios.

[@mathieusynnott8915]

Wow, Did you contact Richard Holdener for a collab video build yet?

[@johnherbold6539]

I shill for BiY on Richard holdeners livestreams all the time 😂

[@biy_buildityourself]

It would be cool if he could dyno the engine once it's done. 🤯

[@mathieusynnott8915]

@@biy_buildityourself Your and his followers is what we want to see. and compare the 2v and 3v cylinder heads over yours 4v.

[@mathieusynnott8915]

​@@biy_buildityourself I just asked him on live chat for you and he said " Yes absolutely, send me a e-mail i would love to do it" So e-mail him or contact him.

[@mathieusynnott8915]

​@@johnherbold6539 I asked him tonight he said yes he would love to!!!

[@Echocompany2-7]

Idk if y’all decided a car for for this beast but I think a ford gt 9 Or maybe a c8 corvette would be perfect

[@Agilepickleunite]

No this must go in a ford

[@Echocompany2-7]

@@Agilepickleunite yeah ford gt 40

[@Dovahkiin27]

A possible explanation for the plastigauge reading tight or being seen as innacurate is because plastigauge measures clearance differently to a bore gauge. A bore gauge looks at a single empty bore in isolation, plastigauge is reading the distance between a bore and the object that gets installed in it as a whole system. When you guys welded the heads and one of the cams was bound up, if you put plastigauge on the cam bearing journals it would show up as though there was little to no clearance between the cam and the journal it was bound up on, but putting a bore gauge in that same journal would have shown that the bore should have plenty of clearance. I think that is what the plastigauge you put on the crank is showing: the tiny mis-alignments of the crankshaft main bearing journals. I have no idea if you should, or even could, do anything about those mis-alignments. Seeing as you guys already have gotten the engine running, I don't think theres anything to worry about, theres probably higher performance engines with worse mis-alignments than you have.

[@miguelroman-acevedo7218]

Poll: will you ever make a kit for this 4v heads? Or release cad designs?

[@biy_buildityourself]

Let's get this thing fired up first, then we can talk about kits 😂

[@quartzcyanis]

ive been waiting for someone to do this, a proper rival to the viper engine from ford

[@quartzcyanis]

and its dohc 4v like a coyote

[@Davesworld7]

I have built modular motors and you just don't use plastigage, they use tighter clearances and no greater than 30 weight oil for a reason, often not more than 20 weight. It's not a 1967 engine.

[@deanharris7149]

You’re NOT supposed to do this, that’s why it so f’ing awesome. Leave the nasty ass welds on the intake. It shows everyone your capacity to adapt and overcome. Hot Rodding just like back in the day. Next? A real V10? S85 bmw, bit-chin!

[@guerotech]

Why not make a new crankshaft with odd firing interval like Ford did it with the 5.8 V10?

[@Robbb8227]

With an engine of this scope. What are you 2 putting it in? Car or truck?

[@biy_buildityourself]

We'll divulge this one secret... It's a car

[@jamesbaisden5187]

Where did you get a 10L engine from and did you make the heads out of a coyote engine or what

[@biy_buildityourself]

The block is a Ford 6.8L block. The heads are 4V cobra C heads that were cut and welded together.

[@murraymadness4674]

I have a 2v v10 that I'm putting in a 68 Chevy C50 short bed custom truck (wanted to get back to the guys doing chevy swap into fords). I have a M112 eaton supercharger from a 5.4 lightening, and was planning to put this on the v10. I have no seen anyone do this before, you know anyone who has? Or maybe you will do this? I've seen twin turbo's making 500hp+, I figured i will get 450hp.

[@prxcizion4129]

Can't wait to see this thing on a dyno! Are you planning on boosting it in the future?

[@biy_buildityourself]

Not with this configuration, the plan is to keep it NA

[@randywilliams4325]

Please try to get a good quality sound recording when this engine hits the dyno.

[@biy_buildityourself]

We will definitely do that!

[@jeffsnyder2051]

is this going to stay na?

[@biy_buildityourself]

Yes it is!

[@CJColvin]

@@biy_buildityourself Awesome brother, NA or nothing.

[@troyt2544]

Where is the alternator going to go

[@biy_buildityourself]

We have the relocation bracket in the works. Will be on the driver side head

[@JakeOATs]

I know you guys enjoy the built at home aspect, as do I. But, Have you guys checked out cobra engineering's fittings and such? I understand you have a system together now, but in case you ever have to replace something. He lays everything out in a "cobra cooling basics" video

[@biy_buildityourself]

We've seen their stuff, really good stuff! It was definitely an option, but we wanted to try making our own stuff before going out to buy a kit.

[@bri-manhunter2654]

You said you don’t build engines every day. However, you access to all these tools and knowledge. Are you renting out a Auto Hobby shop🤔

[@biy_buildityourself]

Just two guys in our garages!

[@cobraengineering]

I have head fittings that would have made that easier. Let me know if you need anything.

[@biy_buildityourself]

We did consider your fittings at one point! You have some really good stuff out there! But we figured we’d give it a shot ourselves first. We’ll definitely reach out if we need anything else. Thanks for the note!

[@scottnewton1021]

You guys should contact Cobra Engineering.

[@joe-hp4nk]

Why do you have to go 8,000 rpm?

[@biy_buildityourself]

We have to go to 8k just like we have to build a 4V V10...

[@joe-hp4nk]

@@biy_buildityourself Duh, say what.

[@cotyliberty2819]

Who’s mk8 gets the v10 in it

[@biy_buildityourself]

Haha good guess, but it's not going on either!

[@stmichael4655]

I'll say it again...make sure you post when you take it to the machine shops that said it couldn't be done....

[@vitopannucci2001]

Oh my god it's really happening

[@biy_buildityourself]

Can you believe it?!