Boudicca: Welsh song by Ceredwen

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@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
@yippitydodah The roads out of Norfolk (where the Icini lived) had functioning permanent bridges long before the Romans, and archaeologists have found at least one paved and cambered road leading out of London that dates back hundreds of years before. It is also established that the Celts in Britain traded with the Greeks before Rome was ever built and had acquired those technologies they deemed useful.
@bushido4368
@bushido4368 14 жыл бұрын
Big thanks for all of you who have liked this. Ceredwen is one of my personal favorite and I love to share it!
@pamelarangel7104
@pamelarangel7104 3 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful song!!
@Shane72634
@Shane72634 12 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that shares the same knowledge of ancient britain. You can only fully realise that england was once the larger part of wales if you get on your cycle and explore your county in england or indulge yourself in the study further. Every county in england speaks differnet for a reason, only the cornish people still speak a similar 80% welsh language normally known as 'Brytonic' a celtic language adjacent to manx, scot's gaelic, irish and welsh itself. Nice meeting you yippitydodah :)
@PeterFreemanIanto
@PeterFreemanIanto 11 жыл бұрын
Boudicca or Bwdica in the original, is a word from the Brythonic language that is the ancestor of modern Welsh and Cornish. The modern Welsh is Buddugol, it means "Victor" so it is assumed that this was not her name but an honorific due to her victories over the Romans. She was indeed a Brythonic Celt.
@johngrindley169
@johngrindley169 4 жыл бұрын
The Iceni tribe of South East Britain. she was named as Boudicea in Roman writings way before she went on the rampage of war Peter
@BrianYoungauthor
@BrianYoungauthor Жыл бұрын
It isn't 'Bwdica', it is Boudica in the original Brittonic and in later Neo-Britonic/Brythonic 'Buddug' in Welsh and 'Buthek' in Cornish. Sigh. Learn Celtic Studies before posting ANYTHING. Pam mae pobl yn postio sbwriel llwyr ar-lein ac maen nhw'n GWYBOD hynny?
@H0AN1
@H0AN1 3 күн бұрын
@@BrianYoungauthor yesssss, you showed us how smart YOU are. and i bet you feel better now dont you? lol
@ec5aca
@ec5aca 12 жыл бұрын
Dw i ddim o Llanelli, sbaenwr ydw i... ond mae eisiau ymarfer arna i... I read someday there were pockets of celtic speech all over England even at the time of norman invasion. In the film "Ivanhoe" you see them mentioned. I remember two of the longest lived, one in Cumbria (anglicized form of Cymru) and other by Newcastle upon Tyne, but there were a lot others...
@gwynwilliams4222
@gwynwilliams4222 8 жыл бұрын
when the Romans came to Britain there was no Scotland it was all ancient British tribes the Scots are from Ireland. the pics the welsh and Cornish are all the same people that's why in Scotland and England you will still find welsh place names Glasgow Dover Derwent Avon all welsh names
@BC_Joshie
@BC_Joshie 6 жыл бұрын
around 50% of England is welsh land, i don't know why they don't teach this in school's it makes me angry.
@alunrees313
@alunrees313 6 жыл бұрын
Aberdeen mouth of the river deen , Aberfeldy Penrith Catterick Catraeth battle beach , Malvern Moelfryn bare hill , Dover Dwfwr water,
@zsberger55
@zsberger55 5 жыл бұрын
And Cumbric too! Even the names are related: Cymru - Cumbri(a), Cymraeg - Cumbraeg(i) Glasgow and Edinburgh were in Cumbria and all come from Brittonic. I applaud the Welsh and Cornish for retaining their language!
@toddskinski
@toddskinski 5 жыл бұрын
All of this history fascinates me! I am American by birth, but my lineage is Welsh. My Grandfather's Surname is Griffith ( my grandfather told me that is the anglicized version and Welsh pronunciation is different). By chance my wife is Welsh also, her grandfather's surname being Davies and she has a hundred fifty year old Welsh bible that we cannot read. All that to say, where can I find out more Celtic history especially to do with the Welsh?
@TheCorvidsCorner
@TheCorvidsCorner 5 жыл бұрын
Ihateyou Googgle no, we Picts aren't Gaels, the Pictish language and Culture originated with the Britons but split when the southern celts romanised a bit more
@ec5aca
@ec5aca 13 жыл бұрын
If I recall it correct, Boadicea was the romanized spelling and Boudicca was the anglification of that spelling. In Welsh it would be Bwyddig. By the way, brenhines in the chorus (o frenhines) means Queen, not Princess, that would be tywysoges.
@szalard
@szalard 14 жыл бұрын
thanks, great song.
@bohemianrhapsody517
@bohemianrhapsody517 9 жыл бұрын
Queen of the Iceni... Really nice.
@edwardkenway7033
@edwardkenway7033 9 жыл бұрын
Boudicca was Welsh because at the time of her existence all of what is now known as England was part of Wales and her real name would have been buddug, boudicca was what the Romans called her
@josephcook5170
@josephcook5170 8 жыл бұрын
She's from Norfolk so ur wrong there
@josephcook5170
@josephcook5170 8 жыл бұрын
+lloyd retsam there Celtic languages in England. Heard of Cornish. There names are cornish
@josephcook5170
@josephcook5170 8 жыл бұрын
+lloyd retsam also Norwich is in south east England do it's very unlikely she is from Wales or Scotland. Also Wales isn't completely Celtic, there is also Anglo ancestry in wales
@marconatrix
@marconatrix 8 жыл бұрын
Nynz yw Kernow rann a Bow Sows! Gwlaz Kelteg yw hi :-)
@Wlerin2
@Wlerin2 8 жыл бұрын
Buddug is Modern Welsh. Her name in the British of the time was probably Boudica or something similar.
@Jarrahnut
@Jarrahnut 13 жыл бұрын
I have a lovely Welsh friend called Buddug. She was a classmate at Craig-y-Don Primary School, and John Bright Grammar School in Llandudno, North Wales. She told me that Buddug is the Welsh translation of Boadicea ... and that it translates as "Victory". Greetings to all my Welsh cousins, from Jarrahnut (Colin) in wonderful Western Australia.
@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
Boudicca is the Romanized spelling, I believe. Almost nothing aside from coins and a few buildings has survived from the Icini (the Roman retaliation was extremely brutal) so we don't know the Icini spelling of her name. In a way, she was victorious - she is still a terrifying figure in Italian children's stories, long after the last of the Romans perished.
@LilFox0112
@LilFox0112 11 жыл бұрын
Currently writing a paper on it, she from Norfolk. She is an awesome figure to study
@peterforden5917
@peterforden5917 4 жыл бұрын
originally from the Parisii kingdom in yorkshhire befor she married Prasutagus of the Icenii
@Shane72634
@Shane72634 12 жыл бұрын
Proud to be born and bred in the heart of Norfolk, England. The homeland of the native celtic tribe 'ECENI'(iceni) once capital city- Venta Icecorvm( Caister st. Edmund). 'the land of the horse people'....horse-drawn chariot warriors lead my the fearless Queen Boudicca. The only celtic tribe to wipe out 80,000 romans, march over 200miles and punish caesar destroying london, colchester and st, albans in the same year. She lived for bravery, thrived on courage ,fought for freedom and died in honor
@marconatrix
@marconatrix 8 жыл бұрын
Allwn i ddim clywed run gair. :-( I´r digymraeg : Boudicca is the ancient British word/name that has evolved into the Modern Welsh form Buddug which means Victoria or Victorious.
@icenichild
@icenichild 12 жыл бұрын
Manda Scott has written some excellent novels about Boudicca.
@AmueFw
@AmueFw 5 жыл бұрын
May Boudicca return and help us against the new Roman Empire of One World.
@l7lgaziz
@l7lgaziz 4 жыл бұрын
İ really like this type musics. These are charming to me. İ just wanted to mention. Hı people of nsture from Turkey. Really elegant language
@ImYourOverlord
@ImYourOverlord Жыл бұрын
Celt culture reaches back in ancient history to your own homeland 😁
@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
@escole48 She was the queen of the Iceni, but the Romans describe rituals (such as divination by releasing a hare and interpreting its path) performed by Boudecca and only druids were permitted to carry out those rituals. The Roman histories are infuriatingly vague and they say almost nothing about her outside of her military exploits and references they don't appear to have understood.
@escole48
@escole48 13 жыл бұрын
@yippitydodah I'm from Essex and before that, I think it was where the Trinovante lived. It was south of the Iceni lands, roughly where Norfolk is today, that Bodicca came from. the Trinovante joined the Iceni in the destruction of Colchester.
@mattt6078
@mattt6078 11 жыл бұрын
By Welsh he means the Britons, or Brythons, which became the Welsh after the Saxon invasion
@williedb47
@williedb47 13 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Nadine
@Shane72634
@Shane72634 12 жыл бұрын
just to correct you there, considering i am born and bred in norfolk, england homeland of the native iceni celtic tribe and queen boudicca. Boudicca wasn't an english woman for the anglo-saxons didn't enter england untill the 5th century. England in her day was celtic- ENGLAND BEING THE LARGER PART OF WALES starting in 1st century until 43 AD when the romans invaded england. She probably in her later years pre-meditating her revolt saw the younger generation being romano-britons. 'Romanized'.
@stormbringerr7806
@stormbringerr7806 10 жыл бұрын
there is a discription of boudicaby the roman Cassius dio that's interesting.her name meant victory .
@googlesucks2940
@googlesucks2940 6 жыл бұрын
Storm Bringerr : The Romans really screwed over her tribe if you read about the details and her complaints. Hail Boudicca!
@Shane72634
@Shane72634 12 жыл бұрын
There is also numerous iron age round barrows and hill forts from the iceni tribe, burials, shields, spears, solid gold torcs, broochs, iron age jewellery hoards, three famous iceni ancestral rooted tourist places of interest- thetford, caister st. edmund and cockney cley. Out of all norfolk the west and once the fens islands names are left of celtic norfolk. The iceni were good metal workers and had an interest with horses i.e today newmarket head of racing...land of the horse people
@bushido4368
@bushido4368 13 жыл бұрын
@rhiannon14982 She was a great figure, alright. I have been intrigued by her spirit since I didn't remember when
@escole48
@escole48 13 жыл бұрын
@yippitydodah Oh! Perhaps Trinovante (Esseex) chariots had Daran and Sharon written either side and their wode was a little more blingy then most - on second thought; perhaps Essex does work - LOL Yeah, it does have more punch... :)
@Ariariel10
@Ariariel10 12 жыл бұрын
0 dislikes?... Great Job... (y)
@gwynwilliams4222
@gwynwilliams4222 8 жыл бұрын
iceni was pronounced (e Ken e) very similar to Kent we say Iceni because of the way the English pronounced it of course they got it wrong because they don't speak WELSH. dwr fa -dova- Dover means water way in welsh
@j1k2j3s4
@j1k2j3s4 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the Welsh names are all shown in lower case. Do you know why it is that way and why it makes a difference to using initial caps for names the way we do now? Thanks.
@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
@bushido4368 She vanished into thin air, leaving nothing but rumours. You can write whatever ending to the story you like, but there were many tribes that had much sympathy for Caractacus and Boudecca. And Caractacus, after his capture and release by the Senate, had a safe haven in Rome which he may have offered to Boudecca. She was also druidess and the Druids needed a leader. Lots of possible endings.
@crumbawart
@crumbawart 12 жыл бұрын
Studied this woman Boudicca for years and wrote a play about her. Shakespeare who in deference to his friend did not write a play about her specifically his Cymbalin is indeed about her. Other than minor interest from a movie group I am still searching for a willing venue I am continually told the cast is too big and too costly to produce so an Amateur Theater Group may have to be considered. . Although my play has had third read if anyone would like to add to my research base please do. .
@clintgriffin8310
@clintgriffin8310 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ever take up the play?
@ValStartaker
@ValStartaker 4 жыл бұрын
The absolute nonsense in this comment section truly amazes me. Boudicca was not Welsh, nor was she English. There was no such thing as Welsh at the time. The language she spoke was Common Brittonic, which is the ancestor of Welsh, Cornish and Breton. During the Anglo-Saxon migrations, the Britons who spoke Common Brittonic were pushed westward and isolated from each other, and therefrom the language diversified into the three Brittonic languages we have today: Welsh, Cornish and Breton. Common Brittonic resembles Latin more closely than modern Welsh. This is because, as with all Indo-European languages, they are from a common source. Brittonic is just one branch of the languages deriving from Proto-Celtic, the others being Irish, (probably) Pictish, and Gaulish. Brittonic was almost identical to Gaulish in many ways. Here is a sample of Brittonic: "Biyū eni tegesi eni cumbāi eti attrebāyū petesres damatās war decan." This means "I live in a house in a valley and I own fourteen sheep." The astute among you will notice that this looks barely like modern Welsh. This is because over the course of 1500 years, a language is bound to change a fair bit. No English speaker today could understand the "English" the Anglo-Saxons were speaking, it's just too long a time and too many changes. They'd be able to pick up a word or two, but not much. But employing the strategy of picking up a word or two, we can see some familiar words from Brittonic in Modern Welsh. (Presented are the nominative headforms of the nouns, not the inflected variants, i.e. cumbāi in headform is cumbā) biyū --> byw (live) cumbā --> cwm (valley; the change in spelling is due to orthographical standards, the "u" in Brittonic is identical to Welsh's "w") damatā --> dafad (sheep) petesres --> pedair (four; feminine) decan --> deg (ten) In modern Welsh this, I believe, would be something along the lines of: "Dwi'n byw mewn tŷ mewn cwm a dwi'n meddu pedwar ar ddeg defaid" I hope this is evidence enough to disspell the rumours that Boudicca was somehow Welsh. She spoke an ancestor language, but in Iron Age Briton there was no cohesive 'Brittonic' identity, the sole fact that they spoke the same language would not mean an Iceni tribesman in Boudicca's army would see himself as kith and kin with a northern Brigantes tribesman or western Dumnonia tribesman. The idea of a cohesive culture and identity is ludicrous in the same way it would be ludicrous for future linguists to suggest that because Americans, Australians, and New Zealanders all spoke English that they'd all consider themselves tea-drinking God-fearing Englishmen. Boudicca was a tribal queen protecting her vows and violated sisters against a general who swallowed more than he could chew. Her rebellion was a tale of intrigue, bloody battles, and gruesome death, but it was NOT some kind of romanticised rebellion by a cohesive set of 'Britons' against an oppressive regime. Enjoy the lovely music, and stop spreading misinformation rooted in 19th century Romantic nationalist bollocks.
@michaelschudlak1432
@michaelschudlak1432 4 жыл бұрын
don't forget the Cumbric language from the old north or yr hen ogledd modern day south west Scotland to north east England. it was spoken up until the 11th or 12th century
@tomk.williams1186
@tomk.williams1186 4 жыл бұрын
She was Brythonic Celtic the Welsh are Brythonic Celtic she was a ancestor close enough....and please don't write me a ten page essay witch I won't read
@ValStartaker
@ValStartaker 4 жыл бұрын
A "ten page essay" of about three paragraphs is unfortunately needed to dispel myths about Boudicca being related to the modern Welsh. The modern Welsh are descended from the ethnolinguistic group of which she was a part, but in calling her Welsh you can also equally define her as Cornish or Breton; the three groupings of Welsh, Cornish and Breton are the surviving descendents of the Brittonic people (note also Cumbric which as a language died out in the 11th to 12th century in northern England and was subsumed into England to form the modern-day understanding the England's borders.) Calling Boudicca Welsh is unhelpful and creates misconceptions about the historiography of the time period she lived in.
@tomk.williams1186
@tomk.williams1186 4 жыл бұрын
@@ValStartaker ok she was English as fish and chips a proper Norfolk gal ....
@ValStartaker
@ValStartaker 4 жыл бұрын
She was not English either. That is not the claim I'm making. I'm very simply saying that the idea of either the English or Welsh laying claim to an ancient historical figure due to nationalism is unhelpful, unscientific, and disrupts understanding of the time period in a contemporary context.
@sherazghakhar
@sherazghakhar 7 жыл бұрын
btw the first picture is very roman = insult to buduga considering her story.
@bushido4368
@bushido4368 13 жыл бұрын
@ec5aca Thanks. This also serves as a correction for the lyric translation
@bushido4368
@bushido4368 13 жыл бұрын
@2206411411 That's why I am intrigued by her. I always consider to make some sort of historical novel inspired by her figure, but not so much information I can get since her background is quite obscure, especially her childhood (and I'm living in Asia, not England). I have gotten two different opinions bout her; either she was a charismatic leader, or brutal slaughterer.
@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
@bushido4368 Her background is extremely obscure. We know that the tribes in Britain married between each other for political reasons, so she was almost certainly not Icini by birth. Her red hair suggests either she or one of her ancestors was Brigante. Her death is just as obscure, since "noble suicide" was a Roman tradition not a British one. Despite Roman claims of a massacre at the temple in Colchester, no human remains were ever found there.
@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
@bushido4368 I'd also encourage you to go ahead and write the novel. You're an excellent artist and I have no doubt you would write a wonderful story.
@nigeljames83
@nigeljames83 2 жыл бұрын
The Romans described the British Tribes as having Chariots ! So We had roads
@Jewels122003
@Jewels122003 2 жыл бұрын
Spelling not a big issue with me......SHE is badass & took them all by storm. Hero!!!
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
cool :D
@bushido4368
@bushido4368 13 жыл бұрын
@2206411411 I think I'll have to think hard about how to end the story, since the stories behind her death are so vary. This sure will be a long work, but thanks a lot for for your encouragement. Aside from my future flaws in the writing process, deep down I'm always be inspired by her story (this is a woman's opinion for another woman:-))
@2206411411
@2206411411 13 жыл бұрын
@gwenowen456 Oh definitely.
@Anaris10
@Anaris10 12 жыл бұрын
Bottom line...Who was the invader and who wasn't?......Who was defending their home and who wasn't?...."Make a desert and call it peace"?...I am Native American and Celtic,actually both my parents were and if you read a history book,you will see the parallels between Romans and Latter Europeans in their dealings with indigenous peoples.This would come to be known as Manifest Destiny...No offense intended and I've not seen anything about her childhood either...Peace!
@rullmourn1142
@rullmourn1142 9 жыл бұрын
like it
@alunrees313
@alunrees313 6 жыл бұрын
The Assyrians called the Israelites khymri the welsh still call themselves Cymru
@mabinogidrws
@mabinogidrws 13 жыл бұрын
It's Boudeg in Welsh and it basically means victory (in the lyrics, the last verse includes the word victorious which in Welsh is boddugol) :)
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
i've yet to see yours
@JackHernandezGentlemanJack
@JackHernandezGentlemanJack 12 жыл бұрын
why have they done it with fail midi when it could have been written and played on real instruments?
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
both, she was a freedom fighter.
@Islwyn37
@Islwyn37 13 жыл бұрын
at "Arwain ni i fuddogoliaeth", I'm hearing, "Arwain ni vi fuddogoliaeth" (and even then, it sounds like fuddogoliaeth is shortened). I'm a new Welsh speaker and am learning, but I keep hearing "ni vi". Are the lyrics correct or am I missing something?
@23951028
@23951028 13 жыл бұрын
What the hell has a Welsh nationalist got to do with a Welsh historian
@mattt6078
@mattt6078 11 жыл бұрын
Albion*
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
how did you come to learn that?
@prettyjohnshill76
@prettyjohnshill76 7 жыл бұрын
scroll down if you enjoy reading utter crap by know-it-all's who love telling everyone they're right!
@ec5aca
@ec5aca 12 жыл бұрын
I can speak Welsh, but I need practice...
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
*ice
@ec5aca
@ec5aca 12 жыл бұрын
Let's say in another way: dw i'n gallu siarad Cymraeg ond mae eisiau ymarfer arna i...
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
right i'm the troll and i bet everyone else here who posted before you are trolls to.
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
the icini tribe was welsh...
@peterforden5917
@peterforden5917 4 жыл бұрын
no! they were cwmry or Britons they wouldnt be called Welsh before the anglo- saxon immigrations of the 6th century, Welsh means 1)foreigner 2) stranger 3)slave..take your pick
@thomo3202
@thomo3202 12 жыл бұрын
say 'Pud deek kaaa'
@josephcook5170
@josephcook5170 8 жыл бұрын
This video is trolling
@edisrael5412
@edisrael5412 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Cook What do you mean?
@Awenek
@Awenek 12 жыл бұрын
Boudica in Welsh would be properly 'Buddig'! :-)
@Stan1026A
@Stan1026A 10 жыл бұрын
Of course, the 'Welsh' themselves were fairly late iron age invaders of Britain. Iron age Britain experienced numerous invasions. Granted, these invasions were from populations and cultures little different from those already there. So its hardly as though Britain had become some kind of creole society even after the Romans left. They went into the Iron age as north west European genetic stock, and came out of it pretty much the same thing.
@newcasual22
@newcasual22 10 жыл бұрын
The Welsh ain't invaders their the natives of the island.
@TorchedKiwi
@TorchedKiwi 10 жыл бұрын
The Welsh are the descendants of the Brythoniaid (meaning Britons). They are the original inhabitants of Southern Britain: up to Cumbria from Cornwall and everything in between. Welsh is the dominant remaining Brythonic language along with Cornish and Breton.
@Wlerin2
@Wlerin2 9 жыл бұрын
TorchedKiwi Define "original". They aren't the original settlers of the Isles, and the Isles were inhabited by other peoples when the first identifiable Celts/Brythons arrived, well before the start of the historical record in Atlantic Europe. However, if my memory is correct, there's no evidence this arrival was an "invasion" either, it may have been a relatively peaceful immigration of settlers from the Continent.
@marconatrix
@marconatrix 8 жыл бұрын
They were certainly not the first people here by any means, but they´re the first we have a name for, any history about, and any legends etc. from their culture. They may well have absorbed a lot of things from the earlier cultures, but here we only have archaeology to go on, and pots don´t speak.
@marconatrix
@marconatrix 8 жыл бұрын
You have to understand that languages all change over time (unless artificially frozen like Classical Latin, Ancient Greek etc.) In the same way that French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian etc. all evolved from Latin, so Welsh, Cornish and Breton all evolved in their different ways from the language of the Ancient Brits which was spoken before during and after the Roman occupation. We don´t have any texts in British longer than a few lines scratched on a pot etc. but we have plenty of personal and place names. Also we have more remains of Gaulish from the continent, which was closely related to British. The sound system of British wasn´t very different from Latin at the time, so the Romans didn´t have too much difficulty in writing down British names. Although Boudica got miscopied later by Roman writers, since it was meaningless to them. Nevertheless it´s a pretty good representation of something like /bu:dika:/ which over time developed into the Modern Welsh name Buddug which means ´victorious´.
@superacer1
@superacer1 12 жыл бұрын
you claim she's pre celtic icae age, lol prove that.
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