Bow Saws VS Folding Saws

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@bigdooze3292
@bigdooze3292 6 жыл бұрын
When I was ten years old some forty plus years ago I was taught how to use a bow saw. That was the go to until ten years ago. Then I stumbled across Japanese pull saws. They are now my go to and that includes my carpentry gear. For myself, as the aches and pains start to catch up it's the pull that makes life easier.
@connorhart7597
@connorhart7597 Жыл бұрын
Same for me for woodworking, but for rip cuts, I much prefer a tenon saw I modified the hell out of lol
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite saw so far amzn.to/2AG7naV What is your favorite saw? Also check out the FAQs of the official Silky Saw website. It states that you should not use pressure on the Silky Saw just like I said in the video it is important that you let the saw cut itself, do not use too much pressure or you risk a break www.silkysaws.com/FAQ_2
@bartspongebob9879
@bartspongebob9879 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite is chain saw becauce you can put in to pocket but bow saw are ok too.
@MySelfReliance
@MySelfReliance 6 жыл бұрын
Agawa Canyon by far. I’m literally using it right now inside the cabin to cut table legs. Great video Lilly
@yentlc.wiersma6108
@yentlc.wiersma6108 6 жыл бұрын
Wire Saw www.amazon.com/Rothco-8312-Commando-Wire-Saw/dp/B000WDPGW2#immersive-view_1513790822555
@mikaluostarinen4858
@mikaluostarinen4858 6 жыл бұрын
Fiskars pull saw (made in Korea) is relatively good. Propably blade isn't as good as in Silky, but price is lower too. I assume it's comparable to Bahco. The blade slides out of the handle, which is safe. It's not easy to open a folding saw singlehandedly, if you're injured. I would choose a Silky saw with pistol grip,safer and easier to expose the blade. Long handle may benefit just the arborists.
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by :)
@stoneyrunva
@stoneyrunva 4 жыл бұрын
Dad's saw: "25 years old, stable, built my entire camp with it, never sharpened it, still cuts like hell"... lol.
@dennisleighton2812
@dennisleighton2812 Жыл бұрын
1:56 Hi Lilly. The real advantage of the pull style saws is they use far less calories per stroke than the push style. The reason is that the push stroke requires two things - downward pressure and forward force. The pull style, however, requires only backward pull. The teeth of the pull saw are so designed that they bite into the wood on the pull stroke and tend to dig in downwards, so you need apply no (or very little) downward pressure at all. Just let the saw do the work and keep the pulls going. Remember, it's not speed of cutting that is most important, but expenditure of calories. The forward stroke of the pull saw only serves to clean the sawdust out of the groove. Another advantage is that pull saws never get stuck, like bow saws tend to do (rather irritatingly!). The reason is that most of them (the better ones certainly) are thicker at the teeth and thinner at the top (much like a flat ground knife blade, but upside down!). Silky saws are also very useful for cutting selected limbs for a bundle (like hazel) without damaging the rest, where a bow saw wouldn't be able to get in. Lastly, as one doesn't really need a long blade even for quite thick logs, Silky saws tend to be shorter than equivalent bow saws, less bulky, and don't have that pesky blade to somehow store and carry safely. All in all, the folding pull style saw is generally much more user-friendly and easier to use, while still being able to do some pretty hefty cutting jobs. Thanks for another enjoyable video.
@darronjknight
@darronjknight 6 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the style of saw you use, it is always good practice to keep anything you don't want to cut out of the path of the blade.
@johnfuller6338
@johnfuller6338 6 жыл бұрын
using any sharp tool be it knife, axe or saw requires that you observe proper placement of your body in conjunction with the tool that your using at that time, happy, safe an healthy holidays lily.
@jmegown52302
@jmegown52302 6 жыл бұрын
And...to keep the Silky closed, I just throw a ranger band around it.
@TheValkoinenKuolema
@TheValkoinenKuolema 4 жыл бұрын
But you shouldn't need to do that with such an expensive saw.
@Moonshinedave1
@Moonshinedave1 4 жыл бұрын
I've had the exact Silky you tested for over a year now. Yes you do have to be careful when closing, it is super sharp so being careless around it is not a good idea. The blade has two positions, one for cutting wood close to the ground, works well. I keep mine in a leather pouch, really the pouch is made for carrying welding rods, but works well. One last thing, I learned, let the saw do the work, don't try to force it, you will find you will cut just as well without tiring yourself out.
@redwhiteblue7831
@redwhiteblue7831 6 жыл бұрын
Silky saws are awesome... I've been through so many saws, the Silky Bigboy is the winner by far... Silky GomBoy is another great saw.
@stealthmanofthewoods2570
@stealthmanofthewoods2570 2 жыл бұрын
j'ai ces deux model mais je veut juste une seule en plus la katanaboy 500 mais pas plus grande on fait déjà beaucoup avec ses scies
@lilliandurham7713
@lilliandurham7713 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very thorough review. My main appreciation is that you included everyday usage, and their ergonomic application. Others have also commented on the wrist tension with the two Silky saws which verifies the comparison to my abilities. Thank you for the detailed explanations. Love your channel.
@josephallen19
@josephallen19 6 жыл бұрын
Lilly, I dont see any adds on this one...just a heads up, I really hope its not because of the saws!
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
I just got an add on it. Maybe I dont get adds on every click? Thanks for tuning in! Lilly
@josephallen19
@josephallen19 6 жыл бұрын
nvrmind, they are there now...maybe I was too early.
@justskoolinaround11
@justskoolinaround11 6 жыл бұрын
What can viewers do to help with the current You Tube situation?
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
if you want to help us watch the advertisement till the end and maybe click on it. Thanks for your support!
@karendominguez3853
@karendominguez3853 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Robinet what is up
@PetesNikon
@PetesNikon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video, Lilly. You have taken time to study these tools and their advantages and disadvantages and safety. You have pointed out some things I always had at the back of my mind when using each type of saw, I have them all, but never really thought about it. Well done, you are right on.
@MrJacksmp
@MrJacksmp 6 жыл бұрын
It all boils down to, "how big you are & how strong are you." for me it's the silky Big Boy 2000.
@SynSurvival
@SynSurvival 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is exactly what I needed. I have a folding saw currently I'm using in my videos.
@meigelted
@meigelted 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Lilly and thank you for all your videos :)
@adamaj74
@adamaj74 6 жыл бұрын
There's something else at play besides blade thickness because to me it seems a folding saw like the Silky cuts faster and more efficiently/easier than a bow saw even though it has a thicker blade. I think it has to do with the bow saw's thinner blade constantly twisting, turning and binding into the wood.
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
sorry but the thinner blade doesnt twist when there is appropriate tension on it.
@adamaj74
@adamaj74 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I've cut wood my whole life, with every kind of saw imaginable, and bow saws DO twist and bind, no matter how much tension. Take your bow saw, set it on top of a piece of wood and apply downward pressure. The blade will not remain vertical, it will twist/turn to one side, and this is what happens when you're going all out trying to saw through a log. Also, the fact that a person can't perfectly saw (perfectly straight, back and forth, no variance in pressure, force or direction, etc.), along with the fact that it cuts on the push which greatly contributes to binding/twisting, compounds the problem. With a Silky type saw, the blade is thicker and taller which makes it more resistant to twisting, and it takes no pressure for the saw to work properly. Add the fact that it cuts on the pull instead of the push and this virtually eliminates binding.
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently we have a language problem here. I know what you mean, but I dont call it twisting. The blade of a bow saw shifts a little bit to the side yes, but that does not interfere with the cutting efficiency when you apply straight pressure on it. also bow saw blade cut mainly when pushed but they also cut when they get pulled. so it is not true what you say about the binding. btw you can bend a folding saw, I have bend the bahco saw you saw in the video and I have ripped of a silky pocketboy at the tip because i bend it over. also when you go to Canadian Preppers channel and look at his saw cutting videos you can see that the long katanaboy saws bend like hell.
@adamaj74
@adamaj74 6 жыл бұрын
For me, the shifting of the bow saw blade does interfere with the cutting efficiency. When it shifts side to side as you cut it is rubbing on the wood and creating friction and resistance. As you say the bow saw MAINLY cuts while being pushed. This exacerbates the shifting and extra friction. I know you can bend a folding saw lengthwise (I have broke hundreds of saw blades on dozens of different types of saws), BUT it is way more resistant to bends vertically because of its thickness and height. Add to that that it only cuts on the pull and you get way less friction/resistance than when using a bow saw. Yes, you can break a Silky saw blade IF you bend it too far, but that is operator error, not a fault of the saw itself. Most of the people that complain about a Silky breaking were using it wrong and applying too much force while pushing, etc. And of course the Katanaboy saw will bend more than smaller saws because it's extremely long. But, it's not the same kind of bending that I'm referring to. That is bending lengthwise which doesn't matter because the saw cuts on the pull. I'm talking about vertical shifting while cutting, which is what a bow saw does. And if you had a bow saw with a blade as long as the Katanaboy, how much would it bend and twist? It would be unusable, which proves my point about the bow saw. I don't know what you're doing to make it easier/more efficient to use a bow saw, but for ME, the bow saw is less efficient and slower than a Silky saw.
@rivercitymetaldetecting9854
@rivercitymetaldetecting9854 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamaj74 yawn. North of 40yrs being involved in the outdoors 3 of which was living completely off grid(survival wasn't a hobby for me) tells me you blame the tool for your improper technique. Those 40yrs+ are trail maintenance, the time I lived off grid and truly relied on my tools, getting massive amounts of firewood for the colder seasons, etc. If the blade on the bow saw is twisting it is due to improper tension or user technique. Both of which falls into the user's wheelhouse. The thing with pullsaws is you cannot negate fatigue. When that sets in things happen such as binding the blade on a Silky on a return stroke.
@TheCarrmar
@TheCarrmar 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work and keeping us entertained throughout the last years. Stay tuned and have a Merry Christmas Lilly, best wishes, Marcus
@haylee12100
@haylee12100 6 жыл бұрын
Hi.LillyGreat vid.Using a pull saw goes against thousands of years of sawing.It takes alot of learning,not too push.once aperson masters the pull method it is a great method and very fast.Faster than most.The trick is not to cut flat.Get your wood up in the air so youare cutting up and down,takes the pressure off the wrist.For the average user you are 100% right.Next do not drop the blade on your handit hurts like hell and the teeth make big holes and a lot of blood.
@BowChickaHonkHonk1
@BowChickaHonkHonk1 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about her getting the wood higher up, as I was watching those wrist angles... (yeah, recent Silky 240 purchaser; was hoping it would be a leader in the timed test because of that :P ) Can anybody show me a good set-up? If say, I don't have an ideally placed rock or tree stump to do the work higher off the ground? Maybe just construct a 90-second sawhorse somehow??
@cwsrad
@cwsrad 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this review Lily. Very practical and common sense approach for your reviews! Hope you have a wonderful 2021!
@mezpezlez
@mezpezlez 5 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments.....I never thought people could get so worked up over what kinda of saw is best in their opinion.
@snaponCND
@snaponCND 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Canadian prepper on this when it comes to silky saws there is no comparison I just gave away all my other saws
@zungruitelbitladnaternoche7305
@zungruitelbitladnaternoche7305 6 жыл бұрын
Good, you made someone money and got ripped off. I know a sales pitch when I hear one. Hook, line and sinker. Bravo moron.
@7wildernessSpecialist
@7wildernessSpecialist 5 жыл бұрын
Laugh my ass off. You were seen coming bruh :D
@canehdianoutdoorsman5063
@canehdianoutdoorsman5063 6 жыл бұрын
I've used bow, fixed and folding saws and prefer the fixed blade saw, particularly the Silky Zubat. For Bushcraft, and /or lightweight travel the Zubat is fantastic. I couldn't justify the higher priced Silky saws like the Sugowaza when held up against the performance of the Zubat. Silky folding saws are amazing from a design, build and functional perspective, but when you get to the Bigboy and larger versions the issue of portability becomes moot. Ideally various saws serve multiple purposes and scenarios.
@toneyjohnson8910
@toneyjohnson8910 6 жыл бұрын
I like the B21 and thanks you made me think about things I did not think of before.
@jasonhudson8410
@jasonhudson8410 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lilley for this video everyone out in the prepping/ bushcraft say that silky is the best thing since sliced bread but seeing you test them really sorts this argument out thank you
@andyblack5687
@andyblack5687 6 жыл бұрын
I think one reason for the ergonomic difficulties you were having is maybe because a bow saw is designed to cut wood that's lying flat like you were doing in this video, but a Silky saw is designed to cut limbs off trees which are still attached to the tree or to cut entire trees which are still standing.
@TheOutdoorsyman2075
@TheOutdoorsyman2075 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Wyoming saw I use when hunting, it is small compact and has two blades, one for cutting wood and one for butchering. It is not the best saw for cutting fair size firewood but It serves a dual purpose which is better that taking two saws. When I take this saw with me, it is because I am hunting moose. I have bow saws at the cabin and on these ones you are absolutely right. If you are stationary somewhere they are by far the easiest and efficient saws. Cheapest as well, blades are easy to find and replace. The silky big boy that I have tried is a great saw, as safe as any others. I am not a big fan of folding saws to start with but it worked great. Hitting your leg with the BB is no different than hitting your leg with a bow or any other saw. The key here in using tools in the bush is to have good, safe working habits. Take your time, figure out what you want to accomplish and take the proper steps to do it in a safe manner regardless of time pressure. My point being I don't have a favourite saw. I used the best one for the activities I am doing at the time. That being said if you asked me "If you could have only one saw which one would you take"? I would probably take the Big Boy. Because of the sharp blade, the fact it takes very little room in a pack. Not great for butchering as the teeth are very close together and bone dust, meat and fat get stock in there and you have to clean the blade constantly. But overall I believe it is the most versatile.
@TangoDeltaDelta
@TangoDeltaDelta 6 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see you compare different roll-up "survival" saws, like cable saws, riveted teeth saws and hand chain saws, and compare those to a small folding saw like the Barco or Silky PocketBoy.
@mikel5253
@mikel5253 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lilly for this review and Merry Christmas
@BlackScoutSurvival
@BlackScoutSurvival 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thanks you
@elderhiker7787
@elderhiker7787 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video analysis. I have a smaller folding saw which is nice for small diameter limbs. Your analysis has helped me decide on the bow saw for more hefty logs. Thanks a million.
@HappilyEverOutdoors
@HappilyEverOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
I have a large Bahco bow saw, as well as a Bahco Laplander folding saw for the light stuff. I’ve never really messed with the breakdown saws as they usually look to be very uncomfortable for extended use, but that Boreal actually looks pretty nice. Thanks Lilly!
@johnvanfraley3882
@johnvanfraley3882 5 жыл бұрын
Any person has their own unique way of using those kinds of saws
@alexgeorge2993
@alexgeorge2993 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video mate! Merry Christmas!!!
@BigPictureYT
@BigPictureYT 9 ай бұрын
The Silky is a pruning saw. You reach above your head, a cut while using gravity. Your wrist is also at the correct angle for pruning. Thanks for showing the superiority of the bow saw for firewood.
@barriewatson
@barriewatson 6 жыл бұрын
The Boreal 21 is my Favorit saw best used with the Cross saw Blade l also use the Silke 240 also Top. the two Go together a treet, no need för a extra saw l notice you was usein the Silke wrong it only cuts on the pull and you was jumping on the pull ( little practice)
@thelonelybushcrafter8013
@thelonelybushcrafter8013 6 жыл бұрын
A really handy tip I was given after the bow saw blade jumped onto my branch holding hand lacerating it badly was this. When starting a cut , particularly a large diameter branch, place the thumb of your branch holding hand lightly on the back of the blade. If the saw catches on the bark etc, it cannot jump onto your hand. Love your videos, keep up your good work xxx
@rumblechick73
@rumblechick73 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to enjoy this video, but to my surprise I found it very interesting and made me look at saws in a whole new way. So thanks for that, Lily!
@OverbuiltAdventure
@OverbuiltAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Best position I've found for safety, ergonomics, and speed with a Silky / folding saw is a plumber's vice.
@dcmackc01
@dcmackc01 6 жыл бұрын
Packable bow saws are my first choice. They are much more efficient and comfortable to work. Blades are cheap to replace in bow saws, and the saw frame takes a beating.
@organizedpreparedness3444
@organizedpreparedness3444 6 жыл бұрын
A great video comparison. I needed this. I was looking into a more-capable folding saw than my generic Bacho Laplander and was impressed with the Boreal 21.
@2btpatch
@2btpatch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review - very helpful, especially the safety issues.
@MrCrapheadist
@MrCrapheadist 6 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, and I am addicted. I love all the content. Keep it up!
@Thes564
@Thes564 6 жыл бұрын
Hey lilly,i fixed that safety problem with the folding saws by using a large thick rubber band around mine wile closed and not in use so it wont open up when not wanted ect.
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
good solution
@darronjknight
@darronjknight 6 жыл бұрын
Magical man try a piece of bicycle inner tube, seems to last longer than rubber bands. Bands cut from inner tubes are often known as Ranger bands.
@darronjknight
@darronjknight 6 жыл бұрын
Magical man you can also cut Ranger bands as wide as you like, if you make it wider than you need, you can always cut narrower bands off of it if you need them.
@MichealBacon
@MichealBacon 6 жыл бұрын
..or buy a better saw like the Boreal. An even better solution, no?
@Thes564
@Thes564 6 жыл бұрын
Well,i did that since i had already bought a new saw and didnt want to waste more money. its simple and it works fine.
@EdgewoodOutdoors
@EdgewoodOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I was just looking at the quick buck saw yesterday. I like the look of the boreal...
@Hedge-Hog
@Hedge-Hog 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas/New Year Lilly.
@denisdegamon8224
@denisdegamon8224 4 жыл бұрын
You never mentioned about changing the grip angle on the Silky saw. It has two positions on thr handle to accommodate your cutting when the wood you are cutting is close to the ground...gives you a better angle and handle clearance.
@CanadianPrepper
@CanadianPrepper 6 жыл бұрын
Well... You I know love ya Elisabeth, but I have to disagree about bowsaws being more efficient in cutting big logs, the katanaboy 500/650 blaze through much bigger logs than a bow saw MUCH faster. The tapered design of silky saws mean that the impulse hardened teeth that are RAZOR sharp are also slightly thicker than the spine of the saw, this means that there is no binding. The blades dont need to be sharpened even after hundreds of uses due to the patented impulse hardening of the SK4 steel. The gap is a downside to the saws curvature which is there in order to make the saw cut faster, I've never heard of anyone cutting themselves like that. The katanaboys have a locking feature keeping them closed, I agree this is one area where it may be improved. Comparing the long more vigorous strokes of an extended bowsaw to little light strokes (and ineffective technique) of a bigboy 2000 is not a fair comparison. Silky advises NOT to push down on the blade and let the saw do the work, saving energy. A valid comparison would have a person do it many times to gauge the dulling of the blades. If its ergonomics you are after than you will want a pistol grip fixed blade like the Zubat, sugoi or Sugowaza. However the pistol grip is not conducive to horizontal cutting and falling trees (something bowsaws are very awkward at)The short of it is yes bowsaws are easier to sharpen because they will need to be sharpened, I've never had to sharpen a silky saw in my years. Anyways thats my rant lol, I still think you're awesome but this is an area I'm quite passionate about.
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 6 жыл бұрын
Its ok we dont have to agree on everything :) I have used the bigboy both with and without pressure. Still I was much slower than with the bowsaw. yes maybe with a longer sawblade like the katanaboy has, it would have been better in competition than the bigboy 2000. still I believe that bow saws cut more efficent because of their thin blades. also I agree with you that the blade will stay sharp for a long time, however there is no steel on this planet which will stay sharp forever, sooner or later the blade will get dull. I prefer bow saws, you prefer folding saws and that is OK! Have a good one!
@garyminick1050
@garyminick1050 6 жыл бұрын
Canadian Prepper this is where I have to agree with you. I believe Lilly is using the technique of the inferior saws on the Silky saw . Cutting with the silky saws are almost effortless . I only use 2 fingers and my thumb . I can also cut with the silky when I am exhausted.
@chosena91
@chosena91 6 жыл бұрын
she said the bowsaws cut more efficiently because the sawblades are thinner, so you have to remove less wood in the same cut comparatively thus saving yourself some energy sharpness of the blade aside(because we can just assume perfect conditions with the sharpest possible blade in a hypothetical scenario) the only thing you have to worry about when sawing wood is how wide the cut is and how big the teeth are (larger teeth allow you to gather more material behind it so every single tooth will cut longer before it starts skipping (because the material removed cant go anywhere any more)
@CanadianPrepper
@CanadianPrepper 6 жыл бұрын
chosena91 by that logic a piece of paper should cut the log fastest. It's not about thickness, it's about razor sharp teeth. A company thats been making saws for 100 years obviously is able to weight the trade off between thickness/friction and cutting power, thickness of the saw is so minutely more than bowsaw that it is negligible imho and a moot point. If you've ever seen the teeth of a silky and compared it to a bowsaw there is a HUGE difference in the sophistication of the design and the actual sharpness due to impulse hardening (Google it) and a taper to allow hard teeth (that almost never need sharpening) and a flexible spine to prevent breakage. The advantages over primitive bow saw tech are so numerous I find it hard to understand how someone can claim a bowsaw is better outside of traditionalist sentiment there are so many functional disadvantages I'm baffled by how it's preferred by The few that do. Most gear reviewers concur about the superiority of silky saws, but its good to have some critical feedback to keep the tech improving.
@CanadianPrepper
@CanadianPrepper 6 жыл бұрын
chosena91 Also tooth size or teeth per inch as it's referred is ideally different for diff wood. Hardwoods benefit from more TPI, soft and Greenwood need bigger teeth. The silky are designed to excavate wood from the cut on the push and pull but only cut on pull to prevent binding. I'm telling you man it's like comparing a rifle to a bow... The silky being the rifle ;)
@jerrycoon4504
@jerrycoon4504 6 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks Lilly! Merry Christmas!! I just noticed you have almost 600,000 subs! Holy Cow!!! LOL
@martinerhard8447
@martinerhard8447 4 жыл бұрын
The cool thing about the bow saws is that you can Carry different exchangeable blades with you
@MrMattrix1
@MrMattrix1 6 жыл бұрын
i have the same silky big boy saw but mine has no gap between the blade and the handle??
@crackers_are_great_with_am9572
@crackers_are_great_with_am9572 6 жыл бұрын
Bro Nature it has a curved blade.
@CharlesTersteeg
@CharlesTersteeg 6 жыл бұрын
Tomahawk for small stuff. Aluminum bow saw for big stuff.
@shcmoly
@shcmoly 6 жыл бұрын
I got a Sawvivor years ago, out of business now. Collapisble bow saw 13" blade, 10 oz, $30. Pretty awesome. Thanks Lilly, Merry Christmas!
@s.t.entertainmentreviews7506
@s.t.entertainmentreviews7506 6 жыл бұрын
I love LOVE the BAHCO bow saw you had shown in some of your older videos. I purchased 2 different blades, one for green and the other I guess for other. WOW it really does a nice job. Thanks from Atlanta Ga USA.
@richardjensen7186
@richardjensen7186 6 жыл бұрын
That wrist-angle point is very compelling. Great video, Lilly.
@cecildekort3636
@cecildekort3636 6 жыл бұрын
Lilly, I have a question. where do you make the videos
@keithspence1630
@keithspence1630 6 жыл бұрын
The blade on the bow saw is for cutting wet timber with the raker tooth to clear the cut.
@timlois
@timlois 6 жыл бұрын
I see value in both types of saws. There are a million different uses for a saw. Hell, I have at least 8 different hammers. Each is meant to bluntly strike an object. But, is that object a nail? A piece of tin I'm trying to shape (probably poorly, lol)? Is it a cinder block I'm trying to demolish or maybe a wooden dowel I'm setting into a piece of furniture? Point being, each of the variations are designed to gain the appropriate leverage and precision for a specific task. A Ferrari is a great car, unless you're trying to traverse a sand dune. I liked this video because it points out some of the strengths and limitations of the various varieties of saws on the market. Lilly did a great job of covering the pros and cons, and the viewer can decide which tool would best suit their needs. Thank you for your videos and best wishes for 2018.
@robg521
@robg521 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Lilly, excellent review. I bought the Sven saw after your video a while ago where you reviewed that so you do make a difference.. 😊 I have been deliberating over whether getting a folding bow saw or to go for the Silky big boy... so again your video really helped. I love the thought of a large bow saw that folds away but then again I need to get the saw blade like that of a Silky into tight spaces. Thanks for the tip about the exposed blade on the Silky needing a shroud or case. Perhaps I will get both types of saw. LOL
@tominnorcal
@tominnorcal 6 жыл бұрын
You are so good at explaining things! Thanks
@kiyo1926
@kiyo1926 6 жыл бұрын
These vids are fun to watch, ok I’m going to watch!😂👍🏼
@nite999wolf
@nite999wolf 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video Lilly, very well done. I bought a bahco simply for the price and having a saw in the bug out situation, in addition to my chopper blade (Kershaw Camp 10) and ESSE 3 for finer work.
@nomadicoasis9260
@nomadicoasis9260 6 жыл бұрын
ATT: Anybody but mostly Lilly. IMPULSE HARDENED TEETH can be sharpened, use diamonds ( because diamonds are a man's best friend too ) you mentioned that you sharpen your own saws ... don't be limited to softer steels if you like a blade just get it and when it gets dull fix it with a diamond sharpener mine is 2.5'' X 3/4'' X .005''. Metric ? about 1 MM thick. it was meant for fish hook sharpening...i modified it by filing the back at a fine angle maybe 35 degrees so it will fit between the teeth down to the bottom , or close to. works like a charm. when i was younger they didn't make ergonomic portable saws to my taste so ... buy a replacement blade and make a wooden handle & sheath. you may need to weld a tang on for the handle. i wouldn't trade mine for any other. my larger one looks very much like a Silky SUGOI 360mm that Canadian Prepper does a demo on .my smaller one 7'' long blade- similar wooden handle . I think plastic is cheep , ugly And feels like your hand got puked on by an oil drum. i like wood ! so make your own from wood. but if you cant make things like me than use the... Silky SUGOI 360mm or similar, & a Corona folding saw 7 inch go for 7 TPI. it's nice to sharpen, more teeth is not so fun . I hope this helps Jared
@wayneholly9901
@wayneholly9901 6 жыл бұрын
Good video Lilly. I also tend to use my bow saws more just for the fact they hold a more ergonomic position. Even though they may take a little longer to cut, if you are cutting a lot of logs, your wrists will appreciate it more at the end of the day. With that said I also am a big fan of the silkys when I am heading out for a night of two and my cutting demands are less.
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 6 жыл бұрын
You do fine and thoughtful product reviews: pros and cons are concisely presented, usability is in sharp focus. Nothing is given a 'thumbs down; rather you explain the best way to use the product, should a buyer prefer a certain style. I had a 25-year-old saw, much like your father's: it brought back memories to see you use it! I moved on to a saw very much like the Boreal model you tested: we did a lot of backpacking and the folding-but-still-connected architecture of the saw made it most efficient to assemble and to take down. The big bow saw 'wobbled' from side to side because my small hands (for a man) found the large size hard to control.
@paulw1824
@paulw1824 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice topic and full of good advice! Thanks Lilly 😬
@Cushingura
@Cushingura 6 жыл бұрын
I got the Tajima Folding Saw and my buddy got the Silky with the same size. They are both exactly the same when it comes to cutting branches but the Tajima only costs a third of the price. So I got the felling Silky is a little bit overrated.
@7wildernessSpecialist
@7wildernessSpecialist 5 жыл бұрын
Wow you are the only other person that I've seen that actually uses his/her brain to buy saws. Yes Tajima is better. Silky is overrated by far but thats what the youtube saw "experts" want ya'll to believe in anyway.
5 жыл бұрын
@@7wildernessSpecialist as opposed to anonymous troll?
@col.strayga1389
@col.strayga1389 5 жыл бұрын
Tajima has flat saws good for carpentry and making log cabins.
@kenl5217
@kenl5217 6 жыл бұрын
Can you adjust the tension on the bow saws that fold
@aspitofmud6257
@aspitofmud6257 6 жыл бұрын
I own both the Laplander and the silky bb 2000. The Bahco with the fine saw teeth are great for the small stuff like smaller tree branches and kindling for starting a fire whereas the silky big boys larger and more aggressive teeth will hang up on smaller branches but will make short work of the larger cutting chores and will keep your fire burning bright. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
@davebloggs
@davebloggs 6 жыл бұрын
in my pack i carry a good set of branch pruners for small stuff they are amazingly easy and good for clearing small branches from over grown trails.
@sharkattack8560
@sharkattack8560 6 жыл бұрын
🎄☃️🎄Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year Lilly. I love all your videos 🎄🎁☃️🎁🎄
@winfieldjohnson125
@winfieldjohnson125 6 жыл бұрын
Lilly,thank you for a very well considered evaluation of those saws.I'm in the market for a "take along" saw,and your opinion will carry weight...I may still get a silky,but you do bring up good points.
@ryanellis5902
@ryanellis5902 6 жыл бұрын
I've had my "Boreal 21" for about a year now and I love it :-) It processes fire wood very well, folds/unfolds quickly, it's light-weight and takes up very little pack space. I usually store mine on the outside of the pack anyways. Definitely a good investment!
@dankefurnichts
@dankefurnichts 5 жыл бұрын
+Survival Lilly Die Stiefel sind geil. Was sind das denn für welche? :-)
@papaschuette
@papaschuette 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Bahco Laplander folding saw and the Bob Dustrude buck saw. Both have served me well for quite a while. If you remember that there is a different tool for different jobs, then all the saws you showed are capable of doing a good job for their intended use. Have a great holiday Lilly.
@michaeljohnson-mc9lx
@michaeljohnson-mc9lx 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Lilly!!
@Mousepad111
@Mousepad111 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lilly, the saw at@7:09 with the green handle. In which manner does the blade come off for replacement? Thanks in advance!
@ShelleyRaskin
@ShelleyRaskin 6 жыл бұрын
Lilly, that tepee is going mouldy, you need to light some fires to dry it out. The silky takes some getting used to, you are using it wrong...you should try the silky katana series they cut amazingly well, but you still need to understand and practice with them to get to the most use out of them.
@spost26
@spost26 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a Sven saw?
@najruqwi7008
@najruqwi7008 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Lilly! May GOD bless you always! Love your chanel!
@Beakermilk
@Beakermilk 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. It explained so much I was wanting to understand about these saws.
@Tom_Hadler
@Tom_Hadler 4 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent review; in depth and well thought through. You should be involved in the design of them! You saved me from an expensive mistake I think. I will maybe look to upgrade my little bahco bow saw to another bowsaw and check out sizes and blade types I think. And maybe just a small folding saw for little branches that are a little big for loppers.
@bluesGs
@bluesGs 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lilly, thanks for the video. It's quite helpful because i have the silky big boy 2000 and have exactly the same problem you showed. The one hand grip is not good at all. However when i can hold the saw with 2 hands , like on a tree branch , it cuts like a laser, but that's not really possible when cutting firewood for bushcraft. I'll have a look at the boreal bowsaw you showed. Thanks :) Have a nice day.
@seewaage
@seewaage 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the useful video Lilly. I think you're correct about the angle of the hand being better for the bow saw. I never thought of that before so I'm glad I watched your video.
@VanGogh1999
@VanGogh1999 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and Happy New year. My wife and I love your videos. They are very informative.
@nomadicoasis9260
@nomadicoasis9260 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a 20$ pruning saw replacement blade at Lee Valley 7TPI. 14.25 inches long blade . I cut a tang for the handle , carved a maple handle, pinned it with copper wire , made a red cedar sheath . handle is at the same angle as a bow saw. it took a little work but i got exactly what i wanted & i can resharpen it when required. 9 years and counting on the real world testing & i still love it. Jared
@matruejack
@matruejack 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding silky fold saw, your problem with the gap between the saw and handle, is just because you normally don't wear gloves, which is quite common in your videos.
@SurvivalLilly
@SurvivalLilly 4 жыл бұрын
or they could just make a handle which doesnt have a gap. safety first
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 6 жыл бұрын
Damn that big yellow-handled saw looks like a beast.
@robsierra516
@robsierra516 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Lilly🎄❄⛄
@j.danaclark89
@j.danaclark89 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a bow saw made in such a way that you can mount the blade sideways so you can cut lengthwise of the log?
@barlbailey729
@barlbailey729 6 жыл бұрын
Love the way you say "tuned" :)
@Totally163
@Totally163 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Really Lilly? Folding saws are one of the best items I carry into the bush. Safer, in my opinion, than an axe or hatchet. The blade of a folding saw will fit into, and cut, in tight spaces - a huge advantage over bow saws. Compact. Lightweight. Fast to deploy and stow. Sharp. Fast cutting. LOVE them!! Felco and Silky make some of the best...
@7wildernessSpecialist
@7wildernessSpecialist 5 жыл бұрын
Ughh.. f.o.l.d.i.n.g.b.o.w.s.a.w.
@derekchavez2175
@derekchavez2175 4 жыл бұрын
This video describes all the saws really good
@EnigmaDave
@EnigmaDave 6 жыл бұрын
As always, great advice and explanation. In a future video, could you discuss preparing items for long-term storage in a SHTF cache?.
@joserosas2492
@joserosas2492 6 жыл бұрын
I got a bow saw I bought at harbor freight for 6 bucks witch works pretty good, plus it comes with an extra blade that you can use to carry on your pack and build the bow out of branches
@mharm734
@mharm734 6 жыл бұрын
Wonder if she'll show us how to sharpen saws with files
@jinx6181
@jinx6181 6 жыл бұрын
Hi lilly Love your videos Just have a qustion How did you go about buying your forest land Thanks :)
@thaddeusmikolajczyk9055
@thaddeusmikolajczyk9055 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video I use both types of saws and the bow saw is easier to cut logs if you need to process more wood at a base camp or winter camping. I use a little folding saw for my normal overnight trips Merry Christmas and God Bless.
@Moostery
@Moostery Жыл бұрын
I have a nice bowsaw I got from the flea market for free. I was buying a scroll saw and I sweetened the deal by asking if I could have the saw thrown in. Turns out it is a really nice swedish bowsaw! My plan is to build a roycroft pack frame to carry it easier because I don't care how inconvenient they are, bowsaws are THE king. Fastest cutting, easy to sharpen, and spare blades take up virtually no space in your pack.
@ImTheKingOfHyrule
@ImTheKingOfHyrule 2 жыл бұрын
The Boreal21 is pretty expensive for a saw ($100) but it looks really nice. Definitely something I'd consider saving up for to use for camping and bushcraft.
@gghrtx2
@gghrtx2 6 жыл бұрын
I just heard and saw so many saws, did you say more "so" or "saw" ?
@richardsalsman1069
@richardsalsman1069 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Lilly. In my experience saw preferences have a lot to do with you past experience. I grew up using bow saws both single and larger two person. You are always more efficient with tools you are used to. 20 years ago I started using pull saws when building a boat it took me quite some time to get used to the different grip angle and body mechanics but I now prefer them for general carpentry and fine cuts. However in the bush I still gravitate to the bow saw even though I have both Silky and Bacho. If someone has no past experience I can see how preferences would vary. On an unrelated topic what is this Hoodie that you are wearing in this video and several others. Looks like a nice mid layer jacket.
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