The PX8 has better quality buttons than the Focal's. They are also a little better with the ANC over the Focals. This maybe partially due to the way the leather lacks the sewing around the foam which the Focal has which may allow more sound to travel outside of your ear. Also the clamp on the PX8 is a little firmer and they turn off the music if you remove the headphones from your ears which Focal does not do. The cans are also not as big as the Focal's and look better on your head. For these reasons I am leaning towards the PX8 over the bigger sound stage of the Focals.
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mostly agree. The Bathys is certainly a more balanced sound with more room in it - though somewhat at the expense of its center mids.
@dashdanebikes2758 Жыл бұрын
I agree , I was able to demo both of them in a store today. I am no audiophile but listening to different genre of music , I concluded that PX 8 has more warmth when it comes to EDM , and more emotion when it comes to classical music. Whereas the Focal Bathys made me feel the music in my face when EDM , but classical music felt more natural. Quality wise , PX8 looks more premium and sophisticated, with a better fit. I am still trying to decide between them
@troensvitnesbyrd2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Beoplay H95 from Bang & Olufsen? how will you compare these two, regarding comfort and audio?
@jarjared35222 жыл бұрын
H95 is more comfortable, but PX8 has better sound
@Ted4King2 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, not much of an audiophile but I think natural is good even here ? To get down to the question what would you choose between bathys and px8 ?
@supertrooper88012 жыл бұрын
There is a very good review where someone has compared these two and gives his review on both. Search it up on KZbin if you like.
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question, my similar answer to a similar question below: I liked the balance in the Px8 a bit more, though the Bathys undeniably has a wider soundstage and arguably a more natural timbre (I'm sure people are reading this and ready to fight me over that statement). The Bathys has a small scoop in the center mids that isn't conducive to the acoustic guitar that's in a lot of the music that I listen to - some people might like this though and find it gives some extra space in the balance, which I wouldn't disagree with. My preference is pretty specific to the genres that I listen to.
@101stTank Жыл бұрын
@@MajorHiFi Im torn to pieces. I cant decide which one to buy. Bathys, celestee or these. My usage is rock/metal/classical/movie music. Im also a gamer. Basically im looking all around home usage headphones with great musical abilities.
@jyexe525 Жыл бұрын
@@101stTank oh I have same “issue” aha, Celestee or PX8 or H95. Did you choose one ?
@davemeadows6688Ай бұрын
Would you say these are more comfortable than the Bose QC Ultra’s?
@samlee25622 жыл бұрын
It's all about the comparisons Chris..! ✊ That's what we're mad for...! 🤪🤔😅
@smraro2 жыл бұрын
Microphone test would and demo would be amazing
@fii3rd5122 жыл бұрын
Which has the better sound stage between the PX8 and Bathys? Which would you recommend overall?
@thomasferrarojr.97722 жыл бұрын
Probably Bathys. Slightly more detailed too. PX8 is livelier, more natural timbre, better dynamics.
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
If an impressive soundstage is what you're looking for, I'd go with the Bathys. Personally? I actually liked the balance in the Px8 a bit more. The Bathys has a small scoop in the center mids that isn't conducive to the acoustic guitar that's in a lot of the music that I listen to - some people might like this though and find it gives some extra space in the balance, which I wouldn't disagree with. My preference is pretty specific to the genres that I listen to.
@falcodarkzz2 жыл бұрын
@@MajorHiFi I have both and noticed similar. I like PX8 for vocals, acoustic and electric guitar. The mids are fuller and more forward and sound more natural.
@laatablangsdorff67447 ай бұрын
I own a px8 and got to say they sound pretty bad out of the box. I was a bit shocked and my instant response was that they had to go back. I emailed my displeasure to the vendor and got a reply suggesting I left them playing overnight and check them again before I returned them. I did this and the difference was night and day. I'd suggest they put a note about this in the box. I wouldn't swap them for anything now.
@BaseLAlshreFАй бұрын
How is it now ?
@laatablangsdorff6744Ай бұрын
@@BaseLAlshreF Hi there. They sound pretty typical B&W. On the warmish side and musical. Really good weighty bass I'd say was there outstanding feature. Overall I'm very satisfied with them.
@mickgw2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Chris, I play a lot of house / electronic music, would you recommend the PX8 over the Bathys for this type of music/ thanks
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply! But in my opinion, Px8 would be the way to go for your particular preferences
@dashdanebikes2758 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, I tested both at a store today and that is accurately how I felt.
@Switcha448 ай бұрын
I have a similar take on these headphones and have sent them back for this reason. Voices and high tones sounded smothered.
@Marian1st.5 ай бұрын
I listened to the song on Bose Ultra. Couldn’t hear the background sound you’re talking about. I’m sure if I switch to Sennheiser 600 or 660S2, I’ll hear it. Never heard the song before. Sounds good. Great for testing.
@Geezeroo Жыл бұрын
Have you tried adjusting the EQ with the app? I’ve heard that can open things up significantly
@c.carrillo78132 жыл бұрын
B&W claimed a $550 price tag in July, why the steep price increase? In my opinion it's based off how well the P7s2 is doing. I own the p7s2 and being as samsung(biggest android seller) doesn't not have aptx HD/ aptx adaptive you can't use these headphones to their full potential. When I connected my old LG V60, these headphones blow my momentum 4, xm4, and xm5s out of the water. Really bummed they didn't use Ldac on the flagship pX8. That steep price hike should cover the license
@davidhow69112 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your post. I was hoping you could help me, as you sound very knowledgeable. I cannot connect my Pixel 4XL phone to PX8. Do you know why? Is that because PX8 is not compatible?
@XNDivinity2 жыл бұрын
To be honest both the Bowers Px8 and Focal Bathys should have Bluetooth 5.3 and qualcomm wireless lossless audio....smh.😞... too much money for not having cutting edge technology.
@conxeptions2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your review on these, any plans on doing the same for the new KEF mu7?
@alexander_hro2 жыл бұрын
How good is the Sound with Apple Music (AAC) on iPhone 📱 ? Or does it only sound good on an android with Aptx? Is there an audible difference?🤓
@runesbroken2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tested for a difference, but I have lossless files in my iCloud library and they sound great on my PX7 S2s when streaming from my Mac or iPhone. Personally the best Bluetooth sound I’ve ever heard is via LDAC on my WH1000XM4s - unfortunately, that is Sony proprietary though.
@jthomp722 жыл бұрын
Nah B&W played some voodoo magic with the internal DAC and DSP, Apple Music lossless sounds good. Fine. 90-95% of the performance on the Aptx. Px8 genuinely do sound good wireless on aac
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, you'll be good. Straight from the box: "Made for iPhone / iPad." 8 )
@vibesahead2 жыл бұрын
Is there much difference between the PX8 & the PX7s2, is it worth the more price , personaly i don't thik so. PX7s2 cost € 429 PX8 € 800 almost the dubble.
@elliekim6666Ай бұрын
I owned both. I got the PX7 S2 at retail price and PX8 at $426. At double the price if you have money to burn or willing to pay the premium I’ll buy these for $700. But if you’re looking for good but at a value the PX7 S2 and now S2e is a better buy.
@rogerIndianKing2 жыл бұрын
If sound quality is the only factor ( no interest in ANC as using indoors), should I go for Px7 and save $300 bucks or is the Px8 worth extra? TIA
@GWS-722 жыл бұрын
The PX8 and PX7S have way better sound. I had the PX7 and tried the PX7S and the PX7S has better sound. The PX8 people say sounds better then the 7S.
@rogerIndianKing2 жыл бұрын
@@GWS-72 Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. Like I said, the PX8 at $800 is out of my budget. I can go for the S2 which is exactly half the price at $400. Now, on few sites and AV exchange forums, PX7 is available for further half of it around $180 which makes it even more confusing. I can afford the $400 if S2 is my end game.
@GWS-722 жыл бұрын
@@rogerIndianKing I would go for the PX7 S2. Better sound then the PX7.
@rogerIndianKing2 жыл бұрын
@@GWS-72 Thank you! Will do.
@jthomp722 жыл бұрын
If you can wait and save up the money, the Px8 are worth the extra in every way
@falcodarkzz2 жыл бұрын
As someone who owns Stellia, Bathys and Clear, Bathys, I'm wondering if you mean Bathys having a natural sound being it has better timbre? I love Focals, but timbre is not their strong suit. I've compared PX8 to Bathys and PX8 has noticably better timbre for vocals and instruments.
@jacobcharters66142 жыл бұрын
How's the ANC on the Px8 is it better then the Bathys?
@falcodarkzz2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcharters6614 its a bit better, maybe 15% or so
@jacobcharters66142 жыл бұрын
@@falcodarkzz thanks and plus one reviewer said the Bowers are still class leading in sound quality compared to the Bathys wondering if saving the extra 100 bucks on the Px8 is worth it if the sound quality is the same or a bit better on the Bowers
@falcodarkzz2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcharters6614 I prefer the Bowers personally. Mid range is fuller and more forward, its a bit distant on Bathys. Bathys is still good too.
@jacobcharters66142 жыл бұрын
@@falcodarkzz thanks man decided to get the bowers to compare it to my Sony Xm3s even though the anc is next level on the sonys but intrested to see how the 500 dollar plus ANC headphones sound i was thinking the bathys but i already own their Clears and top of the line Utopias and ive heard Bowers makes great speakers for us audiophiles!
@NipseyHussle12 жыл бұрын
Chris, between the B&W Px8 and the Focal Bathys which one would you buy and why?
@KingEdmund2 жыл бұрын
I have the Bathys...They are AMAZING!! Hopefully, there will be an instalment for LDAC soon.
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
my similar answer to similar questions below: I liked the balance in the Px8 a bit more, though the Bathys undeniably has a wider soundstage and arguably a more natural timbre (I'm sure people are reading this and ready to fight me over that statement). The Bathys has a small scoop in the center mids that isn't conducive to the acoustic guitar that's in a lot of the music that I listen to - some people might like this though and find it gives some extra space in the balance, which I wouldn't disagree with. My preference is pretty specific to the genres that I listen to.
@NipseyHussle12 жыл бұрын
@@KingEdmund E, thank you! I am going to purchase the Bathys
@NipseyHussle12 жыл бұрын
@@KingEdmund okay!
@Marian1st.5 ай бұрын
I look for the same thing when I test headphones. So for that I use MJ song, wanna be starting something. Also a cranking sound in the background , around 3:19 , 3:25.
@Slyclientthetechdad2 жыл бұрын
Which would you recommend for gaming? The Bathy or PX&? I play first person shooters.
@tonysanti9745 Жыл бұрын
SkullCandy crusher evo
@jerryli5610 Жыл бұрын
Try steel series nova pro ANC headphones, those are incredible on precised sound direction wise literally feels like cheating in game
@TheRakeshArora2 жыл бұрын
With previous B&W headphones, I have found the clamping force to be quite hard such that they were uncomfortable after 1 hour... how do these compare to other current headphones known to be ultra-comfortable?
@hollowmoon77662 жыл бұрын
I believe You can losen them up a bit keeping them stretched apart in between listenings.
@chamade1662 жыл бұрын
Bro, no ANC review?
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
I mention this in the first few minutes of the video: the passive isolation on the Px8 is pretty nice and stuck out more to me than the ANC, which wasn't bad but didn't leave me with a strong impression.
@chamade1662 жыл бұрын
@@MajorHiFi ok so typical of highend wireless headphones with ANC where ANC is an afterthought.
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
@@chamade166 Yeah I suppose, like I said not disappointing ANC but not amazing, but for example the Focal Bathys' ANC was more impressive.
@MrJ.312 жыл бұрын
Any idea if the px7 s2, sony 1000xm5, or shure aonic 50 offer a true passive wired mode where they don't need power to use them?
@endidjeh2 жыл бұрын
I can tell that px7 doesnt, neither px8
@nemlol2 жыл бұрын
PX7/PX7S2 needs power to drive the integrated DSP iirc, no passive mode.
@ponkachonka10 ай бұрын
No comparisons ,sounds this is what they are all about and ANC
@kevin-zd4po2 жыл бұрын
Are they assembled in China?
@mrinvincible87 ай бұрын
So are you saying these things have crazy good punchy satisfying smile inducing juicy booming bass or nah? Lol
@Sky-86462 жыл бұрын
Compare to apple pro max headphone which have more wider sound stage..
@willhot34812 жыл бұрын
I think you don’t need to describe on how you find the headphones response. It will be good if you can play some tracks and use binaural heads to let viewers listen for themselves as sound is subjective
@MajorHiFi2 жыл бұрын
In the process of making that happen! However, I do like to describe the response as well since viewers will nonetheless hear those sample tracks through their own headphone balance which may skew the sound one way or another. But I agree - I'll hopefully be featuring such tests in videos very soon.
@4imo372 жыл бұрын
Binaural recordings over KZbin don't convey any meaningful information about the characteristics of a pair of headphones. A reviewers subjective observations and comparisons to other products is as informative as it gets. This is an indisputable fact.
@MrDevilgodspeed2 жыл бұрын
Looks similar to Huawei Freebuds Studio
@KenValent Жыл бұрын
These are NOT analogue compatible. The 3.5mm jack is attached to a usb.c which internally converts all sound to digital max 24/48 bit. No vinyl or hirez 😂. Mine returned.
@Berlin-bl9bi Жыл бұрын
The B&W PX8 McLarren is very beautiful and comfy, but the sound is truly underground! All mids are missing. It sounds muffled and not fun at all. The spare EQ app isn't fixing the sound. You can only turn bass and treble, but no mids. sorry, it's simply just pretty and the sound pretty bad for the money. expectations were high and the disappointment even higher. I really dont recommend them. Not even if they were 300,00.
@nikeu71102 жыл бұрын
Man. Need time to break in
@cutefunnyanimals1457 Жыл бұрын
To all those who read reviewers' reviews of Bowers & Wikins PX8, please don't believe them at all because I am Singaporean and purchased my Bowers & wikins on 18th September 2023 from Jaben Singapore. Totally disappointing and not cheap at SGD 935.00. The sound quality is a complete let down as they claim the sound is ever so good I can honestly tell you it is complete rubbish why the bass frequencies are very boomy and muddy sound instead of clean bass. The mid-range vocals are very suppressed and lack richness and warmth. After adjusting the equalizer settings, the high frequencies are very bright sounding. The noise canceling is the worst, when I turn on the active noise canceling I 100% hear the noise of the standing fan wind spinning. Overall, everything claimed by those reviewers on KZbin is untrue as they did not purchase the Bowers & wikins PX 8 themselves but loaned it to them for review purposes only. Please note, if not, you will regret it after buying it with your hard-earned money! ! ! ! ! !