Box Truck vs Step Van Which is Better for RV Conversion? E548

[@ExclusiveLM]

I recommend for general maintenence on an RV truck that you use a lot to change your rear break pads at least every 25 thousand miles and check your wheel alignment because weight distribution in your RV can wreak havoc with your proper functionality of your truck. Of course change your oil, spark plugs and make sure if you can to spray the bottom of your chasis so that it doesn't rust out on you. If you can avoid going off road then don't go off road. That alone will cut down on maintenence big time.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

19:40 This one of my favorite tips, and something I would not think of. I was happy to see this vid come out, anticipating your excellent attention to detail and great analytical skills. You are a natural teacher, Seven. Thank you.

[@marxnutz]

I have driven both in my work, and each has its pros and cons. The box trucks had that AC advantage but shorter footprint for living area. They also had very high rear bumpers for stepping up into the cargo area, which was hard on my knees. The step van is not so comfort-oriented, but greater potential living area, as well as a bit more head room. Either one works for me, but I do have a step van, and I don't regret it.

[@bluesummers5051]

You can find box trucks with the same foot print as any step van so neither of them has the advantage in that regard

[@tomcaldwell5750]

Excellent comparison video of step van vs box truck.. You two have good communication skills in front of the camera. Learned a lot. Thank you guys.

[@duane4972]

I would like to add ; the fiberglass roofs let in more sunlight, but... also quite a bit of heat !! A couple coats of white cool seal really helps, along with a 3/4" air gap, then 1" polyiso with a radiant foil barrier. Works in south Florida!

[@nomadicnative2444]

I was wondering about that.. also a Florida native here

[@turkishpro1]

How about letting your light show through at night ( not stealth if light shows through ) does light show with the white stuff added?

[@bobburro3642]

I am at the point of making the decision between these two styles of RV so this was helpful. So, im leaning towards a box truck.

[@camposvazquez]

Theres no comparison to physically see what you 2 gents are explaining... If you did this video with both vehicles side by side... It will be much more helpful

[@k.pacificnw02134]

After I saw the first vid where Dale was giving a tour of his van while smoking a cigarette it made me think that his van probably smells terrible. Are people not able to stop smoking even long enough to make a video? When I buy my box van or shuttle bus for converting, that's one of the number one things I will look for; no stench.

[@bikemessenger7]

Imagination, use it.

[@c.i.m.1600]

​@@k.pacificnw02134 Why can't he smoke in his own vehicle or home? I don't get it.

[@NotSoBiggie]

What about registration, annual state inspections, and insurance? Is there any significant difference?

[@phoenixarizona8441]

Once converted to a RV there's no difference they are both registered as a RV

[@joeblow1942]

@@phoenixarizona8441 But that’s only if you register as an RV.

[@joeblow1942]

Varies with state.

[@carhartt4510]

A couple of points. One thing you failed to mention is the cost of tires. Tires for the box truck will be cheaper than tires for the step van. The gas engine in the newer Chevy vans will most likely be the 6.0L. it is a very reliable engine and will do well over 200,000 possibly 300,00 + miles. I average 11 miles per gallon in mine. It is a 3500 box truck with dual tires on the rear axle. I've owned Ford vans with diesel engines and the room to work on them was nonexistent. I would have had to pull the engine just to replace the injectors. It was the kiss of death for that van. If it had been a pickup it would have been an easy job that I could have done myself. It will be easier to find a mechanic that can work on the gas engine. It will be cheaper also. I have mixed feelings about the fiberglass roof on the box. I recommend that the roof whether it is aluminum or fiberglass be painted with a coat of elastomeric roof coat or some other type of flexible white roof sealant. This will reflect the sunlight and reduce heat buildup inside the box. Even with this coat, light is able to make it through on the fiberglass roof. If you insulate the roof this point is moot. It is harder to mount solar panels to a fiberglass roof. Most likely need to have some type of a rack installed. If you use z brackets you'll have to attach them directly to the aluminum cross members underneath the fiberglass. Depending upon the size of the box, most box trucks will have a higher ground clearance then a step van. Most likely have a shorter wheelbase also. This is a factor if you plan to go off pavement to boondock. Box trucks usually have more room underneath for adding things such as auxiliary fuel tanks, tool boxes, gray / black water tanks, etc. I am 6'2" and the Chevy Express is comfortable for me. The seats in step Vans are only good for about an hour ride. Step Vans are a lot easier to work on. Lots of room around the engine.

[@dannyoktim9628]

You bring up a lot of good points, the trucks are old and need work . . .what is your skill level, can you change a tire, are U willing to commit to a project U may not have the skills to complete. Just do it . . . U will find your skills along the way. WE all have to start somewhere . . . .younger the better

[@c.i.m.1600]

Excellent comment. I agree, except maybe on the tire price part. I just bought 4 new 225/70/19.5 load range H open shoulder traction tires for the rear of my Chevy p32 step van for $158 each, and I'm on a limited budget, I've paid more for car and light truck tires in15, 16 and 17" and have never gotten the milage out of those vs commercial 19.5" and 22.5" tires. JMHO from my experiences 👍👍

[@solidmoon8266]

Plus having an already built in pass through and rear door covers all the needs for legal access point requirements, plus saves you having to build a tiny hole you have to crawl through in order to reach the front seat, if not having to also build a side door.

[@cratersofthemoon]

Feels like I was sitting there with you! nice show! Thanks!

[@RoeRoe123]

EXCELLENT VIDEO! This information is priceless. Thank you guys for doing this. I've been considering both and had thought of an old UPS stepvan, but the info you just gave makes sense to stay away from beaters. An individual owner maintained is what I'll be looking for. With a lift 😁 old knees. I actually used to drive UPS. You guys stay safe and thank you!

[@johnseymour5223]

You can add an aftermarket cruise control to your Step van fairly reasonable.. Same with an aftermarket AC.. Or salvage yard and buy the whole AC system out of a car or truck.

[@JohnDoe-ls1vd]

I have a ValueVan, I thought about it along time b4 buying it. I don't agree with alot of things you say, 1st I have a roll up door..love it. 2nd its gas, 350 auto, cheap and easy to service..and no diesel smell, or noise. 3rd It had a liftgate..hated it, heavy, noisy, ugly. 4th love the bay window, and 2 swivel recliners, its where I spend the most time..not just a place for driving. Last, it's a mid length, so it's just a pickup with a box, so driving it is easy and fun. Just sayin.. ✌

[@CarlottaART]

Lots of good information. Well done Seven and Dale! That Dale is quite a guy...I enjoyed seeing him in the other videos as well :-) Thank you Seven great content!

[@corilia9529]

My concern yeah these types of vehicles are the way to go but what about wind issue? Id be afraid high winds would make it shake or worse knock it over.

[@c.i.m.1600]

If it's any comfort, I've owned my step van for about 12 years and have driven many size box trucks. I never once had issues with wind.

[@papascateringstreetfood2173]

I like the box truck with lockable walk-thru doorway from the drivers compartment as well as side door step entry with insulated ceiling and side walls.

[@SevenWanderstheWorld]

hope to see you buy and build one!

[@papascateringstreetfood2173]

@@SevenWanderstheWorld QUESTION: I have been told that aluminum does not rust. Is that true & where can I verify. Found an aluminum truck.

[@everintransit4240]

@@papascateringstreetfood2173 Steel rust is oxidation and aluminum also oxidizes. Aluminum oxidation is white however, and doesn't leave drip lines or streak and spread as readily. Aluminum is also softer than steel and pits more easily. Aluminum needs maintenance too.

[@joeblow1942]

12:56. Discusses advantages of having liftgate on box truck. (Step up, seat, work bench, patio.)

[@ginabrytowski3564]

Great video. Love Dale, have seen him on other videos and he always seems SO helpful and kind!

[@kevinswinyer3176]

If we are comparing box trucks to step vans, why not go a bit further upgraded in terms of box truck, and go with a Box Type Ambulance ? The box is made of Aluminum, has tons of storage, both inside, and outside, has both a rear entrance, and side entrance, they also have electric, heat, and a/c, as well as a bench seat that could easily be converted into a bed with a bit of work.

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

Would have been cool to step outside and let us see them side by side also. But, very informative. The better visibility would sway me to the step van for sure.

[@garybrown9719]

Great video I have found heavy duty brakes are less costly to work in then light duty trucks

[@drew8642]

Super informative video thanks 🙏You can get lots of natural light through the roof. The right box van is superior depending on your desires.

[@MrRShoaf]

I'm planning a box truck, but I want the big boy version. A higher floor, heavier duty everything. I'm going to have a double door set up with a roll up amd an inset swing door with windows. In that configuration, the large space under the floor will hold tanks, batteries, refrigeration, and vents. The hood will be a tip up for easier mechanical access. Walls, floor amd ceiling will be very well insulated. This will allow the solar to run radiant cooling, fpr warm climates and radiant heat for staying warm in the winter. Car will be towed.

[@jimkonst]

Is it hard to convert a commercial registration to a house vehicle or non-commercial registration? Are some states more or less difficult?

[@c.i.m.1600]

I'm no expert, however from what I understand, as far as school bus and coach bus conversion, that Vermont is likely the easiest. I considered Vermont, but I might just go through my own state, as it's not as difficult as some. If I run into issues, Vermont will be my backup. There's some KZbin videos out there on it. I searched for titling or how to title a bus as a motorhome or RV. There's a few good ones out there on KZbin. I don't want to pry, but mind if I ask what state you're in? If I can find out anything useful, I'll lyk. 👍 👍

[@marzsit9833]

step van gives you maximum interior space for the shortest vehicle length, important if you boondock in cities or other places where a long vehicle is a detriment. but, step vans are not comfortable to drive for long distances. again, if you live and boondock in a city this really isn't a problem since you won't be driving hundreds of miles per day.

[@jrus2]

The type of box truck you are comparing is a 1 ton chassis and the Mt45 step van is more like a 2.5 ton vehicle. Owning a step van diesel vehicle parts for repairs on both the chassis and the body are harder to find and more expensive. The common motor speaking of diesels is typically 5.9 and 6.7 Cummins. Both are very reliable and strong. The gas motors are the same as you would find in a box truck. The step van has better accessible to the engine than in a van. Both have a "dog house" access panel but but more room in the step van. Replacement of engine on a gas vehicle can be a couple thousand dollars but a diesel engine could be eight to ton thousand or more depending on brand and source. My 6.4l diesel I was quoted around 15-18k to replace it. There are a few more parts on the diesel engine that can cost you a bit. Turbo or turbos(remanufactured from dealer was 6k for parts), DPF (3k on my international) on newer vehicles and injector pump(6k on my international). Cummins is a much more reliable engine. Just my experience with a box truck, international and a step van, MT45 Freightliner.

[@GHSTTHERENEGADE]

Can you teach me more about diesel engines? I didn't know they were so much but in "van life" I would feel you would want that engine for its pulling power over a gas engine on top of the fuel mileage.

[@c.i.m.1600]

​@@GHSTTHERENEGADE I'd go diesel, no doubt about it. I wouldn't likely buy newer diesel vehicles though. Older pre emissions diesels I'm my opinion are far far cheaper to maintain and repair than newer ones. I would rather not own a diesel equipped with a DPF (diesel particulate filter) or ones utilizing DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) I've decided to stick with 2006 and older diesels. I've owned gasoline and diesel vehicles. I'll be sticking with diesel for a long time into the future. JMHO. If there's anything you'd like to know specifically, HMU anytime. 👍 👍

[@lass-inangeles7564]

Very useful information and great dialogue to listen to. Nice work, thanks!! What was missing though was a photo of each side by side to visualize.

[@burntorangeak]

Sadly no mention of GVWR comparisons. (max weight your insurance company will cover/may find legal troubles if exceeded when crossing state lines.)

[@chapter4travels]

If you get it re-titled as an RV, that problem goes away, at least that's my understanding.

[@burntorangeak]

@@chapter4travels Not really, it depends on the state that you're crossing into. My Isuzu NPR tiny home has a GVWR exceeding 10,000 pounds, and I was recently required to weigh in at four Port of entry lines. Also if a person exceeds their maximum rated weight, then gets involved in an accident involving major damage, injury, or death insurance companies aren't legally required to cover the incident regardless of policy contract.

[@chapter4travels]

@@burntorangeak Are you classified as an RV?

[@chapter4travels]

@@burntorangeak Also, was that on interstates?

[@burntorangeak]

@@chapter4travels Colorado non commercial affidavit, rv registered, high-vis external decals. Some were interstate crossings, But Louisiana, Texas, and Colorado were all state/ county road crossings.

[@allglad]

I think the step van like in this is better for me...it’s easier to control temperatures in the front bed area of a step van than a box truck. My bed will be in the area above the cab and to the back of the cargo area...it will be able to be closed off so the temperatures are easier to control.

[@mischef18]

Really enjoyed both inputs into this video bro and I learned some things along the way. All the best

[@phoenixarizona8441]

I have a Cargo Van we have camped in industrial area's no one pays attention to a Cargo Van / Step Van / Box Truck now a residential area I'm sure would be a little different

[@JoeZyzyx]

Typically stepvans have a lot of stop-go action city miles put on them, whereas a box truck tends to be more highway miles, so for wear and tear based simply on miles driven, I think the advantage is probably toward the box trucks. However, for a box truck rented only locally, like those $20 a day type for people moving from one home to another, the wear factor might be similar to a step van delivery type.

[@277kne]

I looked at and test drove a GMC box truck. It was called a cutaway van. I think the interior floor length was 16'. It had a sliding side door into the box. It rode good. A little too big for me.

[@patricksmith3556]

Excellent video! you both reaffirmed many of my thoughts as I decide which way I want to go when I start my build. What are your thoughts on towing a "daily driver" car, though?Which truck would you lean towards if you had to haul around another car with you everywhere you go? My Dad's '30 Ford Model A Town Sedan is my daily driver. Runs like a champ, is tons of fun, and draws a lot of love; so it's definitely going everywhere with me. The type of car is irrelevant though. Many people tow a Jeep or some other daily driver car behind them to get around once they set up base camp. I'm personally starting to steer towards a U-Haul myself, due to it's built in towing abilities. The "Mom's Attic" would be a great place for my solar stuff and a mini split AC/heat unit on one side, and even a nice large fresh water tank on the other side as well. My big question still comes down to thoughts on towing a car trailer though. Do you guys have any thoughts on towing?

[@drew8642]

Cummins power matched to Allison transmission rules!

[@chapter4travels]

For one person I think the step van has the clear advantage. The passenger space is your main entrance and frees up the space where he cut in a door to the box truck. It also allows you to section off a portion of the back as a garage, only accessed from the outside. This keeps things like bikes, grills, propane, generators, tools, gas cans etc. out of your living space.

[@chapter4travels]

Haha, I wrote this 3 years ago, and now I live full-time in a step van with the exact description I used 3 years ago. I guess I knew what I wanted.

[@joeblow1942]

@@chapter4travels Congratulations! Are you urban stealth camping in your step van?

[@chapter4travels]

@@joeblow1942 no, I'm full-time boondocking and have no desire whatsoever to stealth camp in a city. I just got into Arizona two days ago and I'm working my way to Yuma for the coldest part of the winter.

[@c.i.m.1600]

​@@chapter4travels Howdy, I might very well end up converting my step van, I've owned it about 12 years now. I almost bought a 16 or 18 foot, but sadly I'm stuck with an 11 foot area. I would have loved the extra interior space on the larger one. It seems like step van prices have climbed quite a bit lately. 👍 👍

[@chapter4travels]

@@c.i.m.1600 An 11-foot step van is perfect for me. Seven did a tour of my van about a year ago. This is how I use the space. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5yvXpmDZdmWors

[@bencoleman1893]

What a great video. This was a very comprehensive comparison. Thank you both for doing this and sharing it with us all.

[@SevenWanderstheWorld]

glad you enjoyed it

[@janina8559]

Very informative, I believe that they are equally the same for practicality. Gotta give comfort to the Box truck so comes down to the experience, gas mileage, and personal preferences. ☮️❤️🤗

[@servicedoglydia503]

Great video Seven. Great shirt Dale! Had the pleasure of meeting Alex at the Big Mass Tiny House Festival this year! Hoping I cross paths one day with each of you.

[@GoTerry]

you mean that it's just two guys talking?!? SEVEN, You didn't get out and compare visually - You just made a PODCAST with a Camera HAHAHA Kidding, you are a great guy and next time ask me first hahaha

[@kiethmartinsr4371]

im curious if any 1 has built a unit too live in plus be able to haule 2 pallets of product for delivery work ???

[@stephanecorriveau6982]

Those darn dippy springs. :) Keep up the good work .

[@jennleighton3209]

Love your commentary but I agree with others that even a couple of pictures to demonstrate differences would have made your talk much more educational. Overall great job, and thanks for the info!

[@n.harper2652]

You can add a after market cruise control to you van.

[@Richqjourney]

Very informative. Thanks for creating such helpful content! Would be great if I could meet you both to learn more.

[@robertjackson4121]

The new Ford transit Frito lay truck is a hybrid brid good fuel mileage extra length. The option to use a hot water engine heater like a school bus. . you did not discus 15 passenger bus for airport shuttle. Looks like an option in the future with Tesla conversion. Buy a wrecked Tesla car land transfer parts. Leaves an option to buy a wrecked RV drive train and convert.

[@277kne]

Forgot to mention it was a fiberglass body with fiberglass roof. And pass through door in between driver's area and box. Hardwood floor. Looked like a furniture delivery truck. Had the built in cowl over the cab. I didn't buy it because it was about $16,000 or $18,000. Had 80,000 miles for a 2012. I don't have the room for a truck now. Maybe a van.

[@codywinter4818]

I dig the reuse shirt, where'd you get it?

[@robertjackson4121]

The future is electric conversion with brake system and. Charging. System. The future will be Amazon delivery as an income source. Thus a modular living space that is removable to a mini storage or cargo trailer may open opportunity . a lift gate with a motorbike for local transit.

[@Nicholas-f5]

@@cajunjamis9001 he's right

[@arnecarlsson9740]

Great episode!

[@SevenWanderstheWorld]

thx!

[@solidmoon8266]

I think the step van honestly has much better usage as a stealth camp. Have the step up and pass through already built in saves you so much greif in having to figure out about building a pass through or side door. That alone saves so much hassle, costs, and space to maximize your home build. Ya you can easily tweak the step van to get most of the perks from a box truck. Easier to build up then having to tweak and modify to get to the basics.

[@MySonsMother]

Actually, 2 other well known vanlifers (I can't think if all their names right now) did a swap. YT loves to see collaboration between other YTers. It can cause your videos (2) to be recommended and t get tons of views. Search KZbin collaboration to see the best way to collaborate.

[@stevehaile3325]

I found it interesting when you were talking about gas vs diesel and maintenance neither of you mentioned the fact that with a gas engine you will be changing the oil about every 3000 to 5000 miles with standard oil and every 7000 to 12000 when using a high grade synthetic oil where with a deasil engine you would change the oil at around 10000 to 15000 miles using standard 15/40 Diesel oil or 50000 to 75000 when using a high grade synthetic. Also a gas engine does no have the same power for pulling hills nor the life expectancy of a diesel engine. Another thing that is good about diesel engines, is you can literally let a diesel engine idle for days on end without it ever over heating as long as the engine fan is working properly, not so with a gas engine. Another thing that is nice about diesel is its a good bug repellant. "{ DO NOT RUB ON SKIN ]" A little diesel in a small bed of hot coals will create a dark smoke that rises into the trees and will keep bugs at bay for several hours.

[@c.i.m.1600]

I agree, except on the oil change intervals. I've never heard of 50,000-75,000 mile oil change intervals on any engine, gasoline or diesel regardless of type of oil. I use Rotella T6 full synthetic oil in my one diesel, however I normally change it every 7,500 miles. What makes and model years are claiming 50,000-75,000 mile oil changes? Many thanks for any information. Much appreciated 👍👍

[@DesertDiva]

Interesting conversation gentlemen. I have a "few years" on you both and am somewhat of a "girly girl." I totally love my 1998 Lazy Daze mid-bath with the rear "mermaid lounge" and panoramic windows. Cheryl in New Mexico

[@jm4672]

Gas mileage number one number two if you have a step van what kind of a job would not use it as stop and go stop and go I mean far as I know even if it's bread is stop and go so I don't know where you would find a step band that doesn't stop and go constantly other than that that was pretty good video I would like to know about the diesel vs gas in the mileage per gallon

[@SevenWanderstheWorld]

plumbers, electricians, food trucks and mechanics do not use step vans for "stop and go" but rather travel to 3 to 5 appointments per day (unlike FedEx which might make 50 stops in a day). fuel milage is about the same between gas and diesel with an empty vehicle. towing and hauling loads, the diesel performs much better as diesel engines provide much higher torque than gas and therefore nearly all large industrial vehicles hauling cargo or towing are diesel. for small lightweight use, both are similar, thus gas is favored as a less expensive per gallon fuel

[@mikehaskell3313]

@@SevenWanderstheWorld The prime selection for step vans would be police and government auctions. It might take a while to find one but when you do find a mobile command or surveillance step van from a police or government auction, they will be very low miles, very well maintained and very well equipped. Only drawback is you might end up paying for it if someone else has the same idea as you.

[@stevenyoungheim4837]

Great video but it has been my experience that a diesel van may be a "little" cheaper then a industrial vehicle to maintain but still not as inexpensive as a gas vehicle to maintain. A diesel vehicle is just going to cost more. They are bigger, heavier and over built to handle a heavier load.

[@c.i.m.1600]

I've owned a 1988 Chevy p32 step van with the 6.2 liter j code diesel. It's been the cheapest and easiest vehicle I've had in regards to maintenance I've owned over a half dozen diesel vehicles as well as gasoline. I've never seen major differences in prices to maintain a diesel. That said I haven't and probably wouldn't buy any diesels newer than 2006. JMHO from my experience. 👍 👍

[@jimc5624]

The bigger problem most people will have is where to get them serviced. 1ton box truck more shops will be willing to work on where a large step van has to go to a bigger place. More money per labor hour. But all together it comes down to personal preference. I have thought about large trucks but with pets not a fan of the front sliding doors while driving.

[@jimbob3030]

A lot of mechanics won't work on any regular vans or box trucks that are van based because there's no room to get to anything, engine compartment is really cramped and sometimes you must remove the entire engine to fix things, it's very frustrating. A cummins based stepvan is the same engine found in dodge diesel trucks, places that work on the dodge typically will work on the stepvan.

[@rapture1014]

​@@jimbob3030you have no idea whats you Say a Chevrolet 3500is literally a pick up truck a mechanic that doesnt work on that should retire asap

[@yoslick4079]

Has your friend ever done the RTR?

[@DaleBetzandtheSlackerBus]

Not yet

[@CombatDoc54]

Really as very nice side by side video. But here is a bit of trivia concerning step vans. There are a lot of used step vans on the market that for the most part are built for deliveries. What is the one company in North America that you will NEVER be able to find one of their step vans anywhere to purchase used?

[@thomasbordelon4149]

UPS crushes there old vans

[@jimc5624]

Ups recycle every part they can so they don't sell the Vans they rebuild keeps cost down

[@CombatDoc54]

@@thomasbordelon4149 Yes, and there is a UPS representative on sight when they do deliver the trucks to be crushed to make sure it is done. I read an article about it on Jalopnik.

[@c.i.m.1600]

Howsy, Thanks for sharing, liked and subscribed. Im just curious, the man with the doesel box truck said he gets about 14 mpg and if it were gasoline itd get maybe 16-17 mpg. This was roughly between 15 mins 30 secs to 16 mins 10 seconds in this video. I'm thinking i either heard him wrong, though i played it over a few times. Ive owned both gasoline and diesel vehicles from as small as a 1.9 liter VW diesel to a 9 liter 6v92ta Detroit Diesel and everything in between those sizes and never did any gasoline powered vehicles beat the diesels (when comparing similar size and weight). Just going by experience, ive yet to see a gasoline box truck get more mpg than a diesel,again I thonk he said 14 mpg for his diesel vs 16-17 for a gasoline one. Unless im hearing hom wrong and hes saying 6-7 mpg for a gasoline box truck. Ive gotten around that in a ford E-450 15' box with the 6.8 l v-10 If any of y'all happen to have heard that part, please lmk, much appreciated 👍👍

[@curtgibson9872]

Seven, you do great videos, but would suggest that you use the screen time to show what you are talking about, rather than being on camera.

[@SevenWanderstheWorld]

great suggestion. I'll try to do this in future videos!

[@jeremyday6589]

Out of curiosity, IS stealth necessary? I am about to do a build from a box truck, and WANT it to look like a wee tiny home. Is this unwise?

[@chapter4travels]

It all depends on where you want to camp/park. If you want to park in cities or towns, then stealth matters. If you are boondocking on public land, then it doesn't matter at all.

[@jeremyday6589]

@@chapter4travels Thank you, but WHY? Are you kicked out of cities and towns? Why would they do so? Are there laws prohibiting such?

[@joeblow1942]

@@jeremyday6589 Yes and yes.

[@alainarchambault2331]

Unless you find a low rider style U-Haul box truck, I don't like the thought of climbing up into the box. A liftgate would be nice for as you guys said, a raised patio and workbench, but again we're having to run a lift gate to get into the "house". If a box truck, it would have to be particular in its specializations, such as cab entry door, and side entranceway with steps. Throw these in with the liftgate and I'll go box truck. Good luck finding one.

[@jkyoft78]

Are you kidding? You don't show the vehicles??

[@mark_osborne]

Just love this interview Seven - best ever !

[@Larryloafer488]

Running cost of the bare bones van should take president. There after, the need to build an efficient interior is next.

[@Badgeweefixstuff]

Awesome video good to see Dale very good video on comparison 👍👍🛠🇨🇦

[@jamieooiooi5347]

This was so informative!!! Amazing video. Tha k u so much

[@cathya.larkin2697]

Why didn’t you show the difference? Talking is boring.

[@bikemessenger7]

what have you thought about the people you have met in the last year, especially considering the globe entering a pandemic and in the united states the rise of a cultural divide that many people have never before seen in their lives? have you listened to how others are concerned about the world and have any of them provided you insight into our situation as a whole?

[@cathya.larkin2697]

What’s your point? This comment was well over a year ago. I don’t follow him any more.

[@bikemessenger7]

@@cathya.larkin2697 don't give it another thought. have a good night.

[@cathya.larkin2697]

@@bikemessenger7 gotcha.

[@StepvanDan]

Ithink my name says it all for me,geat info thank you for sharing ,hugs from MN

[@phyllisindallas]

Great detailed comparison. Thank you.

[@Brian_Boxtruck]

Great video! I'm only slightly 🚚 biased 😝

[@karlschmidt7258]

Stealth and security points to the step vans….no need to go outside and climb in if you pull over and just wanna hit the sack….If there is activity around you that you don’t like, you don’t have to go outside and be exposed to move your truck. There are some box trucks (mostly ex tool trucks) that have cab access and a nice side entry door on the box and swing rear doors with lift gate….big trucks though.

[@joeblow1942]

Most box vans have a passage between the cab and the box. If not, it’s not hard to cut one in.

[@bobshaw4063]

Great content & very informative info in this vlog .

[@mambomob1137]

Very informative & helpful. Thankyou

[@debralewis3864]

No link to the tours????

[@randywhitaker68]

FedEx has air conditioning, ups doesn’t.

[@sylesterjones2475]

Great vid... great advice...

[@Tenright77]

Seven, Did you ever replace your truck shock absorbers? Replacement Bilstein gas shocks would not be expensive or difficult. www.shockwarehouse.com

[@CombatDoc54]

I disagree with the concept to avoid things like FedEx trucks, etc. They have a very high compliance maintenance policy on their trucks.

[@Nicholas-f5]

But they retire at 500k

[@xappohlla]

Thanks for all this information!!!!

[@doreendaykin6693]

Great video... Good info!!! Gratitide!!!

[@rlrieth]

I decided that a step van is not for me after watching another video about the cons. Such as noise factor, ease of driving, lack of air conditioning, etc.

[@chapter4travels]

That sounds like the bread trucker video. Most of his cons are associated with the age of his step van. An early 2000's step van will be much quieter, have AC, and drive much better.

[@ManInTheBigHat]

Helpful.

[@SevenWanderstheWorld]

yay! happy you found this helpful

[@patrickporco6972]

Being stealth is a moot point the minute the police run your plates...it will not be listed as a commercial vehicle

[@sdushdiu]

...Unless one is smart enough to create a small business and registers the vehicle as such....

[@joeblow1942]

Chances are both types are already registered as commercial vehicles so you just keep it commercial when you transfer. You’ll pay a lot more per year for commercial reg / plates in California though.

[@rapture1014]

​@@sdushdiu😂 so you think you smart hein insurance IS triple and plate too plus inspection IS more strict juste dont assume you more smart ..

[@sdushdiu]

....easy choice - a box truck.

[@GHSTTHERENEGADE]

Holy shit IT'S FUCKING DALE!!!!

[@peterodriguez5636]

The World Stealth is No work done on the sides of your truck ( Back Door you car have two Barn doors Instead of the roll up! Roof solar & exhaust can Not be notice is ok! How much is Insurance Gas well it Depend on how much you moving it What you need to talk about is in a City where do you refill your drinking water & cost We can Figure out the waste & Grey water

[@WellWisdom.]

Step van in my opinion.

[@PatrickPoet]

I can only dream:)

[@hoosierdaddy3705]

There are lots of videos of people adding 2 stroke oil to their diesel fuel to get better performance, mileage and lubrication of engine.

[@Nicholas-f5]

And getting costly EPA fines.

[@mark_osborne]

Spencer, I always add a little 2 stroke or ATF just to give the old style mechanical injector pump a little added lubricity- thanks for bringing it up

[@ExclusiveLM]

Oh no. George Lucas created the Star Wars franchise worth billions and now he is sleeping in a truck. Wow.

[@tankeater]

You have a cab... Why you have "cab air conditioning" lol

[@anniesshenanigans3815]

Diesel tho you gotta put that additive in it? Dont know about that.

[@chapter4travels]

That depends on the year, 2006 and earlier don't have all the emissions controls and regulations.

[@Nicholas-f5]

DPF are cleaner engines and last longer

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

Seven, I see you already know of this video but I think your viewers will enjoy seeing this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4uynYqZZ9qYfdE A sweet step van build.

[@winnabegobob1547]

Box truck

[@CombatDoc54]

These guys make such a cute couple. LGBT ... Liberals, Guns, Beer Trump.

[@studlygrish]

I'm going to go with the box truck for size (24ft) and if you can get from the cab into the truck having a walk through (taking out bench seats) I think you could get more people in a box truck

[@c.i.m.1600]

I agree, there's benefits to box trucks. I almost bought a 26' U-Haul box truck, International with 7.3 idi turbo diesel and Air Ride suspension. Well technically I think they were about 24' and they counted the over the cab area into the 26' figure. They do make step vans in 30' interior cargo length in the Freightliner MT-55, I'm not sure what other lengths are available by different manufacturers and years. 👍 👍