I can't thank you enough. I've been sick for about a week and discovered your channel. I humbly make a request: is it possible to find the full Frazier Bonvanena rematch? Clips exist, but I would be incredibly grateful to see the full fight. If not, please let me thank you one more time for your wonderful channel. You've posted timeless fights between warriors whose names will never be forgotten.
@augieholzworth7270 Жыл бұрын
Oscar bonavena
@augieholzworth7270 Жыл бұрын
Was there a 2nd fight...?
@johnweston555 Жыл бұрын
@@augieholzworth7270oooooo0
@bengoldberg6198 Жыл бұрын
Tremendous fight. Narrow win by Frazier, but it's not unreasonable to say Bonavena won. Bonavena is one of the most underrated fighters of all time. Thank you for uploading this all time great fight.
@ruffknight9549 Жыл бұрын
In the USA Frazier won but if it was in Argentina then Bonavena would have won it.
@bengoldberg6198 Жыл бұрын
@@ruffknight9549 😂 exactly. Frazier happens to be my all-time favorite fighter, so I'm probably a little bit biased. I do think he narrowly won. I've never seen their full rematch, it's not on KZbin, but I've seen clips. Bonavena was a hell of a fighter. He had Ali in trouble in their fight too, granted Ali was very rusty coming back from the suspension.
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
@@bengoldberg6198Frazie sofreu duas quedas em uma luta equilibradab e perdeu claramente o último round. Não tinha como ele ganhar.
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
@@bengoldberg6198 I agree with you. Frazier was the best of all time. As an Argentine, I have my heart with Ringo, although I recognize the differences. Greetings. 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
@pablofernando2012Ай бұрын
Aquí y en la luna ganó Bonavena!!!@@ruffknight9549
@pecelirovucago7149 Жыл бұрын
Most grateful for your channel showing this fight. At 81 years, it was like yesterday. Thanks!
@keithnaylor1981Ай бұрын
Amazing picture quality - the best on KZbin! I would find it impossible to decide a winner. Both very evenly matched. The mutual respect they showed for each other at the end was wonderful to see.
@billybud9557 Жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier was a real man....gracious in winning or in defeat. A true champion. Bonavena was a pioneer in South American Boxing. Great vid.
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
Totally agreed
@MrCaifanero2 жыл бұрын
Soy Mexicano y llegue a ver pelear a Oscar “Ringo” Bonavena, yo podria decir que el tubo la mala suerte de haber vivido en una epoca donde estubieron dos de los mejores pesos completos de toda la historia, como son Mohammad Ali y Joe Frazier, con la calidad que tubo Bonavena facilmente le hubiera ganado a cualquier campeon de peso completo de la actualidad, seria un invencible en la epoca actual. Saludos para Argentina
@300espartanosnaturales9 Жыл бұрын
Gracias en argentina admiramos mucho a los boxeadores mexicanos abrazos amigo.
@santiagobeneth8543 Жыл бұрын
Esta pelea la ganó Ringo 7-5 tal como fue la única tarjeta acorde a la pelea de los 3 jueces esa noche. Te comento que años más tarde su hermano contó a un medio de TV local que Ringo habló con él por teléfono previo a la revancha con Frazier y dijo que dos matones armados lo amenazaron de muerte si no se dejaba ganar en la revancha. Ya habrás visto la revancha... Sólo datos de cosas oscuras que jamás salen a la luz... Ringo podría haber Sido camperón en la época dorada y en cualquier época del boxeo, talento tenía. Saludos a México desde Argentina.
@baron8103 Жыл бұрын
MRCAIFANERO...Y TE FALTO DECIR DE LA MAFIA DEL BOXEO Y LAS APUESTAS...AQUI GANO RINGO BONAVENA Y PUNTO...LAS DEMAS CHACHARAS QUE DIJISTE NO VIENEN AL CASO...MENOS MAL QUE ERES ARGENTINO....PARECES CHILENO EN LO CHAQUETERO....!
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
Bonavena ganhou essa luta!
@xxcrump3575 Жыл бұрын
Zapatistãs Mucho gusto de cabeza fíctícía y cesped de sombrero hoy Pollò y cespa q uno Gorda
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
Esse argentino foi o verdadeiro Rock Balboa.
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
Tal cua! Fui contemporáneo de el y vecino. Fue un tipo genial al que le sobraban agallas …un guapo que le haría frente a cualquiera. Tenia un don de gentes y un enorme corazón. Aquí en Argentina fue muy querido… Gracias!
@pablonunez7437Ай бұрын
Rocky no existió el que si existió fue Marciano
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
I’m from 61, so I remember Ringo very well, he was a multifaceted character. With great personality, spontaneous, friendly, enter and good-natured ... An out of series right and lovely guy inside and outside the ring. He lived on Av Las Heras and Salguero. More or less on the 10th floor. An aunt of mine lived in front and at the same height. More than once I could see it from afar. I have very much in mind all his career and adventures, although I regret very much what happened in Nevada. Anyway, I only remember the good times of this extraordinary popular idol. Greetings
@adrianramos228129 күн бұрын
Excelente descripción de Ringo. 🧉👍
@juanfernandovalenzuela991929 күн бұрын
@ Graciass
@danielpiguillem925123 күн бұрын
Si es Argentino fue bueno
@juanfernandovalenzuela991923 күн бұрын
@@danielpiguillem9251 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
@faisalvazquez32892 жыл бұрын
Soy Uruguayo pero el honor de tener a éste hermano rioplatense Ringo Bonavena
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
Tal cua! Fui contemporáneo de el y vecino. Fue un tipo genial al que le sobraban agallas …un guapo que le haría frente a cualquiera. Tenia un don de gentes y un enorme corazón. Aquí en Argentina fue muy querido. Gracias!
@faisalvazquez3289Ай бұрын
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919 saludos
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
@ Gracias a vos! Saludos
@Mr.56Goldtop Жыл бұрын
This looks like a choreographed movie fight. Two tough customers in there banging away.
@carlosalbertoquezadabaltod47253 жыл бұрын
Ringo fue una gran boxeador, con mucha valentía y gran pegada. Una lástima su trágica muerte.
@4asteroid3 жыл бұрын
Que mala suerte para Ringo y luego le paso tambien a Monzon en circumstancias diferentes pero lo mismo de tragico
@joegeorge38893 жыл бұрын
Evidently he didn't have any sense
@kakonis2 жыл бұрын
Miraste este pelicula sobre Ringo, "Love Ranch," con Joe Pesci? No era buena, pero interesante.
@santiagobeneth8543 Жыл бұрын
@@joegeorge3889Te llamas Jorge, hablas en inglés y encima decís cosas sin sentido... Madre mía
@JB-zc2zq2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading it... I really enjoyed in this fight... Mr. Frazier almost being stopped in the 2nd round, but managed to win a split decision in the end... Some rounds were pretty close imo, but I believe that Mr. Frazier's aggressiveness won him the fight on two scorecards... R.I.P. to both of those legends.
@Laufter1003 жыл бұрын
Awesome material. Thanks for sharing this video 🏆
@lissethgodoy43202 жыл бұрын
A Gran Ringo le toco puros Monstruos Alí Frezier Foreman un duro de verdad unos de los boxeadores mas grandes de Latinoamérica grande Ringo
@JuliusCesar20052 жыл бұрын
Bonavena never fought Foreman
@draconpersistente220 Жыл бұрын
Creo que los buenos, ricos y sustanciosos bifes dan alimentación óptima que nutre perfectamente a los atletas argentinos: Bonavena, Maradona, la pulga etcétera Saludos desde NezaYork
@alfiopalmieri3218 Жыл бұрын
@@draconpersistente220Mica è l'Argentina è Perché sono italiani 🇮🇹😉
@alfiopalmieri3218 Жыл бұрын
@@draconpersistente220tranne Maradona
@carpinchoConLentes9 ай бұрын
@@alfiopalmieri3218 ahaha, diciamo che è un po' questo e un po' quello. Saluti da un paese fratello nel sud 🇮🇹🤝🇦🇷
@keith39702 жыл бұрын
I had it 95-94 for Oscar.I think Joe lost that one,but they gave him the decision. Great fight,thanks for posting!
@ShakaZuluX Жыл бұрын
During those years if the fight was too close the judges it was always given to the local fighter.
@Dvco33333 Жыл бұрын
He held Joe for most of the fight that's why O lost.
@bronxjar84412 жыл бұрын
This Joe Frazier did not move his head nearly as much as the 1971 Joe Frazier. Amazing to see how much he improved in a few years.
@beatlejim64 Жыл бұрын
Joe had a great trainer in Yank Durham...
@nyterpfan Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! The 71' Frazier had AMAZING head movement! (Muhammad Ali himself said that Frazier was one of the toughest fighters to hit clean that he ever faced!)
@dspreis Жыл бұрын
Right. By 71 he was vastly improved over what we see here.
@bronxjar8441 Жыл бұрын
@@beatlejim64And Eddie Futch.
@hagenvontronje617711 ай бұрын
@@nyterpfanJoe war eine Maschine....Eisenharter unerbittlicher Kämpfer.
@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube4 жыл бұрын
What a great fight. It's so strange to see Frazier so small and young. Additionally, Ringo deserves so much more recognition than he gets. I would guess that 1 out of 100 boxing fans don't even know who hw was. Thanks for the upload. Subbed.
@BOXINGLEGENDS4 жыл бұрын
Thx Wookiee
@nagone113 жыл бұрын
Ringo was a great fighter and gave any greats a very hard time.
@excellinkus3 жыл бұрын
Probably more than 1 in 100. I've been a boxing fan all my life and I'd never heard of Ringo Bonavena until today. Thanks for posting this.
@JuanLopez-ef5pr3 жыл бұрын
@@excellinkus You're either too young or should become a scholar ( if you really like boxing)... cause fans usually don't know much. I suppose you don't know why the nickname " Ringo".....well...because of his likeness with Ringo Starr......the Beatles drummer.
@seneca9913 жыл бұрын
You meant to say that 99.99% of fans don't know who he was
@joelds_pr89 Жыл бұрын
Gracias por subirla
@marianoalvarez51923 жыл бұрын
Gloria eterna a Ringo de Parque Patricios, Buenos Aires!!
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
Bonavena foi uma glória do boxe sul americano. Talvez o melhor.
@rubenalvez49899 ай бұрын
@@slmb1964Frazier dijo luego de sus peleas con Ringo, "tenía acero en sus venas" elogiando la fortaleza de Ringo Bonavena. QEPD ambos grandes campeones y mejores personas!
@alvarobrat2 ай бұрын
Ringo el mejor de la historia del boxeo Argentino,aparte lo íntimo a clay en la previa Ringo era más pícaro típico Argentino🇦🇷💪🏻
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
Tal cua! Fui contemporáneo de el y vecino. Fue un tipo genial al que le sobraban agallas …un guapo que le haría frente a cualquiera. Tenia un don de gentes y un enorme corazón. Aquí en Argentina fue muy querido. Gracias!
Bonavena problem to why he lost decision was two fold he was focused on knock out punch instead of trying to get his jab and combinations working that lead to those knockdowns against Fraser in early rounds. Second he started to go into cruise control. Thinking he had a big enough lead on points, that he didn’t need to work too hard. That is where Fraser started to smoke and knew he had to win most of the rounds to win the bout. But that fight definitely opened the way for a rematch.
@BOXINGLEGENDS4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for wathing & leave nice comment
@micalzoncillo2493 жыл бұрын
nah man, ringo worked hard the whole 10 rounds even though he was confortably ahead with the 2 knockdowns. he gave frazier a crash course in how to work the clinch, the true reason why he lost is because of biased judgement and because he didn't let joe fall in the 10th right here 30:27 . if this was a 15th or even a 12th rounder frazier would be on a stretcher, he got way better after this fight.
@goyonman96553 жыл бұрын
@@micalzoncillo249 Frazier won rounds 1,3,4,5,7,9 Drew round 8 Lost rounds 2,6,10 He won the bout
@active.7universal2 жыл бұрын
@@goyonman9655 nah they split rounds with Oscar dominating the champ round with 2 knockdowns/couple even rounds..
@johngerard32182 жыл бұрын
Early in Bonavena's career, he was trained by Marciano's old trainer, Charlie Goldman.. But unlike Marciano, Oscar would not listen to Goldman and the two parted company early. Bonavena used to say "what can this old man teach me?". He could have taught him a hell of a lot.
@adrianotero79632 жыл бұрын
Ringo was know for being a little hard headed....and that was too bad....ultimately lead to his demise.
@alvarobrat2 ай бұрын
Ringo el mejor peso completo de Sudamérica y el más cismatico con una guspeza el verdadero Rocky Balboa.🇦🇷💪🏻
@waderivers993 жыл бұрын
Two very very tough men.
@jijinhodelbarrio41783 жыл бұрын
Great channel thank you for your work & dedication
@yusufu92 жыл бұрын
The second knockdown of Joe was somewhat similar to a couple of Big George Foreman's 6 knockdowns of Frazier: Joe was really rocked back both times and totally lost balance. Oscar put in a great fight here and might well have merited the decision. Thanks for sharing this classic from the glory days of the past!
@christiancharles2866 Жыл бұрын
Oscar won this fight, Frazier was down twice
@yusufu9 Жыл бұрын
@@christiancharles2866 It was definitely close, but the scoring was consistent that Frazier took it: Referee: Mark Conn 6-4; Judge: Joe Eppy 5-4; Judge: Nick Gamboli 5-5, but with Oscar by points. Same with the Press: UPI scorecard: 6-4 Frazier; AP scorecard: 6-3-1 Frazier. If Oscar had scored a later knockdown, he would have won it for sure.
@yvaeltercero3013 жыл бұрын
Año 66, Bonavena iba en ascenso permanente, acababa de derrotar a un grande como Peralta por el nacional argentino y pedía una chance mundialista, pero le tocó enfrentar a verdaderos monstruos, hasta que le llegó el turno de vérselas con Alí y alli dejó todo lo qeu tenía, nunca volvió a ser el mismo.
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
Na luta contra o Ali o Bonavena já estava em fim de carreira. O auge de Bonavena no meio da década de 60.
@butvicious272 жыл бұрын
He puntuado 95-94 para Bonavena en mi opinión. Joe estuvo ejerciendo la presión todo el combate de eso no hay duda, pero creo que Ringo supo contenerlo y contratacar muy bien, de echo es evidente durante y el final del combate que Joe estaba más agotado que Ringo. En cuanto a golpes, Frazier lanzó muchos más, conectó más, pero en lo que es efectividad Ringo estuvo bastante más fino, creo que tuvo las mejores combinaciones, puso a Joe en varios aprietos, resistió mejor desgaste físico y supo leer el combate mejor que Frazier. Para mí mínimo tuvo que ser empate, y aún así sigo decantándome por Bonavena, me parece que hizo una pelea más inteligente, me quedo con que a pesar de la presión de Smokin Joe, Ringo supo golpear mejor, más efectivo, aguantó más y lo tuvo en problemas más veces, sin mencionar los knock downs
@victorianicolau94312 жыл бұрын
I had it 96-92 for frazier
@biomadnesstrip2 жыл бұрын
Buen analisis de la pelea, tambien hay que considerar que mas alla del excelente combate que hizo Bonavena, le falto un plus de agresividad y presion para conseguir el titulo, cuando te enfrentas con el campeon no es solamente hacer puntos y llevar una pelea pareja, literalmente le tenes que arrancar el cinturon a golpes y si le pelea fue un empate tambien se deberia dar la decision a Joe. Aunque les parecia curioso a los NorteAmercicanos la fuerza y resistencia a los golpes de Bonavena, nunca les gusto su estilo imperfecto, de pie plano y golpeando desde angulos imprevistos, algo que se repite mucho en el boxeo argentino sobretodo en los pesos pesados. En resumen; Estuvo muy parejo, pero sigue siendo la pelea por el titulo. Saludos
@butvicious272 жыл бұрын
@@biomadnesstrip Muy de acuerdo en que le faltó ese plus de agresividad. Me ha gustado también esa observación sobre el perfil de Bonavena
@douglasspalding9609 Жыл бұрын
@@biomadnesstrip Esta pelea es del 66, Frazier no era campeón. Era local, eso sí.
@xxcrump3575 Жыл бұрын
Cesped que Pollò sombrero con zacate Pasto y zapatistas Mucho gusto de cabeza fíctícía hoy
@patitofeO9283 жыл бұрын
Le robaron la pelea a Ringo Bonavena. Claro en ese momento representaba a Latinoamerica. El segundo tound fue genial.
@carlosburgos54472 жыл бұрын
2022 nada cambio
@javierlombardi6972 жыл бұрын
Si, un afano
@jacquescormery2 жыл бұрын
No. Bonavena lost the fight
@aw144k95 ай бұрын
Latin America has never been hated and discriminated against as bad as black America, Frazier won fair and square 💯
@jorgenunez976624 күн бұрын
Gano bonavena
@victorhugozanettazanetta97023 жыл бұрын
Es difícil de aceptar que Oscar Bonavena haya perdido esta pelea. Frazer no la ganó.
@VictorGonzalez-bx8nz3 жыл бұрын
Frazzier no la gana x nok pero la gana sin dudas amigo bonavena solo aguantaba nomas y tiraba algunos golpes de suerte nada mas
@ricardomariomonte43043 жыл бұрын
@@VictorGonzalez-bx8nz a qué llamas tirar golpes de suerte?
@monomonomono53333 жыл бұрын
Tal cual. Si Bonavena no la ganó, Frazier tampoco. Creo que lo justo hubiera sido un empate.
@VictorGonzalez-bx8nz3 жыл бұрын
@@ricardomariomonte4304 ringo no era un buen boxeador nunca lo fue tenia mucho corje criollo pero cero tecnica vos fijate que mientras sus rivales saltaban en el ring bonavena arrastraba las patas siempre les metio alguna que otra mano a casius y a frazzier pero no estaba ala altura de ninguno amigo se fue a hacer el payaso con ali y cobro como el mejor
@nestorivanrodriguezsorriba77723 жыл бұрын
@@VictorGonzalez-bx8nz creo que Ali y Frazer eran mejores pero son de los mejores de la historia del boxeo. Bonavena con sus virtudes y defectos se entreveró con ellos y no pasó vergüenza.
@devonalexandra99634 жыл бұрын
thanks for upload.
@juanreese69333 жыл бұрын
Joe showed class in and out of the ring. After each round he gave Bonavena a friendly pat. When Ali wasn’t fighting due to being stripped of his title for objecting to the war, Frazier helped him financially. It bothered him deeply that Muhammad later ridiculed and called him a monkey. I love Ali but I never appreciated that aspect of him. Two incredibly black athletes.
@blackknight70723 жыл бұрын
Ali did this to Malcolm X too, Malcolm Xhelped hid then Ali crapped on him
@bigalsnow81992 жыл бұрын
Ali was selling the fight. He never ment any of that stuff even tho Joe never got over it. And Don't mention Malcom ×. Did he not betray the honorable Elijah Mohammad? I loved Malcom...but he joined up with those people...pushed their agenda like no one else and then turned on them...judging them. Both Malcom and the nation of Islam betrayed Muhammad Ali ( leading him into that world) yet he remained loyal.
@SoraX66z2 жыл бұрын
@@bigalsnow8199 jor did get over it he just likes to talk shit too. They stayed friends even while they were fighting, it was all a show. Ali watched wrestling and took that into boxing
@aarondigby98592 жыл бұрын
Ali was a master at selling a fight, he tormented Joe with the crazy insulting crap to hype and sell his fights pay per view, after they retired they were the best of true friends. The Ali/Frazier trilogy is the greatest trilogy in HW boxing history. In the pre-fight interviews Ali hitting the stuffed teddy bear gorilla and saying, "it's gonna be a chiller, a killer and a thriller when I beat the gorilla in Manilla to hype up their third fight was funny as f**k while Ali was punching the little stuffed gorilla.
@aarondigby98592 жыл бұрын
@@bigalsnow8199 Ali left HEM and NOI later on and severed ties with Wallace Muhammad and said later in life his deepest regret was not following Malcolm and made amends to Malcolm's daughters and Malcolm's oldest daughter Attallah Shabazz gave Ali's eulogy at Ali's funeral, really historic touching and transformative moments in our Black history.
@The_Honcho3 жыл бұрын
So different seeing Frazier so young and unrefined. It’s like watching a prototype of the man we saw in 1971. Every once in awhile you catch a glimpse, but his signature head movement and gazelle hook are just being learned here
@Confucius2023 жыл бұрын
Ali would have starched him had they met at that time.
@jtoo60603 жыл бұрын
Notice most of the audience is well dressed in a suit and tie.
@ciarahall54023 жыл бұрын
An all-white jury
@bakgammon3 жыл бұрын
Different time obviously.
@vestibulate3 жыл бұрын
Joe hit low again and again, with no formal warning, to say nothing of a point deduction. Mark Conn was quite generous that night.
@seneca9913 жыл бұрын
Thank you for stating the obvious. There is a type of box fan that would never see those details according to his background preferences
@1Tomrider3 жыл бұрын
Bonavena was one more of an excellent crop of HW contenders in boxing's golden age, the 60s and 70s. He could have beaten some champions in the past. Frazier was superb physically here, but you can see how he continued to evolve, especially in his 3 fights w/Ali.
@johns72723 жыл бұрын
How was this the golden age? you gotta be kidding! you think either of these 205lb heavyweights would survive in the modern age?
@trey43233 жыл бұрын
@@johns7272 They would thrive
@clevelandwilliams59223 жыл бұрын
@@johns7272 these guys were trim and carried very little weight. Conditioning and Endurance level mattered a lot and made the difference. When Fraser fought Daniels and Stander he was overwhelmingly overweight, slow and pondering. Once you loose your conditioning it makes a massive difference. Look at Pre-Exile Ali he was awesome to watch. But with 3 & 1/2 year layoff with no real training his weight ballooned and he could never get himself back to that level of condition. So he stared to rely on his chin more and more while he would get away with it by relying on other advantages like hand speed.
@clevelandwilliams59223 жыл бұрын
@@johns7272 overall my answer these men would handle the modern heavyweight boxers well.
@baron81032 жыл бұрын
@@johns7272 ESTA PELEA A LO MAS ERA PARA EMPATE...FRAZIER SE VIO EN APUROS..SI BONAVENA FUERA MAS DIRECTO...LA COSA HUBIERA CAMBIADO MUCHO...
@juanfernandovalenzuela9919Ай бұрын
Soy del 61, asi es que recuerdo muy bien a Ringo, fue todo un personaje multifacético. De gran personalidad, espontáno, simpático, entrador y bonachon … un tipo fuera de serie querible dentro y fuera del ring. El vivio en la Av Las Heras y Salguero, mas o menos en el décimo piso Una tia mia vivia enfrente y a la misma altura. Más de una vez pude verlo desde la otra vereda... Tengo muy presente toda su carrera y aventuras, auque lamente mucho lo ocurrido en Nevada. En fin solo recuerdo los buenos momentos de este extraordinario idolo popular. Saludos
@Bismarck.18712 жыл бұрын
Just like Marciano, Bonavena came from Italian parents. One born in the US, the other in Argentina. Both tough as nails. By the way Bonavena was robbed. Had they fought in Argentina Frazier would have had his first loss.
@neivaldoduarte45763 жыл бұрын
Gosto de assistir à lutas em que os boxers se respeitam... terminaram abraçados como dois grandes atletas. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
Não gosto quando juízes roubam. Bonavena ganhou claramente. Boxe sendo Boxe.
@tommosley2844 Жыл бұрын
Bonavena didn't know how to finish or set up his man. He just rushed in and allowed Joe to hold on and survive the round.
@eleucalipto3584Ай бұрын
Yo nací en el barrio de ringo.el coraje y los buebos tapaban cualquier defisencia física o tecnica.ringo orgullo del box argentino.
@Agustin-wf9ux2 жыл бұрын
Inceible que el arbitro permita ir con la cabeza en punta a Frazier. Pareciera que Ringo tenía otro ritmo o cardio. El segundo round lo tira dos veces y termina más entero Frazier q ringo. Ahora cuando Ringo sacaba esa derecha con buen recorrido, parecía la patada de un caballo y un corazón impresionante
@delpage13 жыл бұрын
Frazier was always a slow starter and most vulnerable in the early rounds.
@Ffeoli10393 жыл бұрын
without a doubt, I love when he gets smokin though in the mid rounds.
@ireasonthereforeiam.2 жыл бұрын
But Joe clearly lost the last round
@active.7universal2 жыл бұрын
joe was dominated in the championship round//Oscar won
@keithcampbell68063 ай бұрын
I t was not a championship fight.
@freemanzak89952 жыл бұрын
This oscar guy is one tough cookey never heard of him till today and this is his 3rd fight am watching .
@micalzoncillo2493 жыл бұрын
Gamboli the only judge with eyes, i scored the exact same result, 7-5 with the 2 knock downs for Bonavena
@EdubertoPalitroke3 жыл бұрын
♫ ♪ We are from the neighbourhood, the neighbourhood of The Burnin'; we are from the neighbourhood of Ringo Bonavernin' ♫ ♪
@jorgealmonacid7610 Жыл бұрын
"RINGO" BONAVENA Y ARTURO GODOY, HAN SIDO LOS MEJORES BOXEADORES LATINOAMERICANOS DE LOS PESOS COMPLETOS QUE HA HABIDO HASTA EL MOMENTO, GODOY PELEO EL TITULO ANTE JOE LOUIS ( PERDIO POR PUNTOS, MUY DISCUTIBLE) Y BONAVENA QUE ENFRENTO AL GRAN CASIUSS CLAY., EN UNA "BATALLA ESTOICA".
@joecurmaci58803 жыл бұрын
I'm 62 years old I just learned about Sam Langford the Boston bonecrusher about two or three weeks ago how crazy is that
@mongoslade40163 жыл бұрын
Joe such a good hearted guy!
@bobbytheblade2550 Жыл бұрын
In these old boxing matches, they usually allowed some scrub to announce the scoring who did not know how to deliver a proper rendering.
@clubberlang5894 жыл бұрын
Yancey Durham proved his worth as a boxing trainer in this fight. He knew what to do to assist his fighter to overcome and win.
@BOXINGLEGENDS4 жыл бұрын
Yancey Durham for me was one of the greatest in his job.He made from Joe smokin' machine.
@stevecvino3 жыл бұрын
Without Durham Joe could of been ruined. Managed him brilliantly.
@slmb1964 Жыл бұрын
Juízes roubaram a luta para ele.
@S1LLY_ASTRO_L0VER2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what a younger primed Frazier would do against Foreman, but watching these earlier fights of Joe, It's obvious Foreman beats Joe 10 out of 10 times.
@GlobalFightLeague3 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see someone beat joe at his own game. Stood his ground and only got a split decision, I believe that this fight being in NY had something to do with the decision.
@AnthonyArgyros Жыл бұрын
Two warriors. What a fight !!!!!
@ttttxxiii14 күн бұрын
Bonavena was a very very tough hard man.Toe to toe with a young Frazier is an amazing thing for any fighter for 10 rounds.
@mortimerzilch26084 жыл бұрын
Oscar almost got him.
@marks60412 жыл бұрын
Frazier had an incredible left hook and a tremendous will in his prime but was extremely small for a heavyweight. It was evident by what George Foreman did to him twice that the super sized heavweight fighters of recent times would have destroyed him. For all intents and purposes he should have fought as a light heavyweight. Frazier was fortunate to have fought Ali after his 3.5 year layoff. Prime Ali of the mid 60's would have picked Frazier apart with ease.
@DavidJsmith-dk5tf3 жыл бұрын
One tough fight ! I rate Joe as the best heavyweight between 1968 and 1973. Oscar a great fighter too.
@santosfabian30653 жыл бұрын
Buena pelea de bonaveda, ganó por puntos en Argentina, perdió por puntos en EEUU
@snivelinj76123 жыл бұрын
The squeaky voiced Bonavena was not a polished boxer, but he was one tough hombre.
@tgh223 Жыл бұрын
u will never know how much these videos are appreciated
@ramlangoddos44253 жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier in this fight looked relatively inexperienced compared with the Frazier in the first Frazier-Ali fight when he defeated Ali, and much unlike the relentless punching Frazier in the Thrilla in Manila epic fight that he lost to Muhammad Ali by a TKO. RIP Joe.
@jeffriessman96933 жыл бұрын
Joe, was great. But beat a rusty Ali(4 year layoff). Of course he wins that fight.
@SoraX66z2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffriessman9693 nah ali wasnt rusty. He had to fight for contender, Ali just underestimated joe. Truth be told, he wouldve beaten ali in the third fight had they not threw in his towel. Ali had nothing left on the last round and joe fraizer was still ready to go.
@adamryamizard5560 Жыл бұрын
@@SoraX66z Ali was rusty when he fought Frazier in fact when he fought quarry and bonavena shows how rusty he is.
@marcelodejesus-et8sq3 ай бұрын
Un fenómeno Ringo . Como olvidarlo ? ❤❤
@edgarxavier78012 ай бұрын
Oscar was a clear winner. After a two knock down against Frazier and led more punches and yet lose the fight is ridiculous. Frazier won on popularity and influence of an unbeaten record.
@JerryFerko7 ай бұрын
Joe Goes Down Twice In The Second Round .................. But He Is Still Moving Forward For Most of The Round .................. Its What He Always Did ................... The Fight Announcer Has To Be A Boxing Hall Of Famer ................... Cannot Think Of His Name ............... ANYBODY ????........
@JenniferM13Ай бұрын
Interesting that Don Dunphy said that Bonavena was the taller of the two at slightly over 6' when he's listed everywhere as 5'10 and definitely looks 5'10.
@archfootballman40 Жыл бұрын
Grown as mens calling them boys when the real men's on canvas battling the real boys talking about the fight.
@raulheredia4643 жыл бұрын
El Rocky Balboa Orgullosamente latino Argentino
@alfiopalmieri3218 Жыл бұрын
Italian 🇮🇹
@CaballoTiroLoco2 ай бұрын
@@raulheredia464Si, madre criolla *(nativa)* argentina🇦🇷. Como Horacio Pagani, Alejandro de Tomaso, Maradona, Ginobili, Messi, Gabriela Sabatini, etc etc etc.. ninguno es 100% italiano, todos están crisolados.
@CaballoTiroLoco2 ай бұрын
@@raulheredia464 Nacidos en argentina obviamente. Born in Argentina obviusly.
@kanelahernandez438711 ай бұрын
ali got his jaw broken then he stopped all that trash talk
@fermingarrick21204 жыл бұрын
he should be considered to be Hall of Fame...
@TheJoker-bx4vp3 жыл бұрын
Here in argentina he is a legend and very popular in his time
@TheJoker-bx4vp3 жыл бұрын
@branded beast He took a beating against Frazier not against a nobody, it was Frazier
@davonbenson43613 жыл бұрын
Oscar Bonavena was like a heavyweight version of Roberto Duran.
@ciarahall54023 жыл бұрын
He didn't have none of defensive
@ciarahall54023 жыл бұрын
Don't you dare say that he did not have none of the defensive steals of Roberto Duran
@davonbenson43613 жыл бұрын
Ciara Hall. His aggression reminds me of Duran . He was also hitting Frazier at some good angles.
@judex32269 ай бұрын
Joe was moving differently here. He hadn’t perfected his bobbing & weaving style that was so effective in later fights. Joe is one of the greatest heavyweight champs of all time 🥊
@uncjim4 жыл бұрын
I watched this fight on the one T.V. in my fraternity house. Seeing him get up and come on made me believe he’d do the same against Big George as it was happening. It’s still shocking.
@sweetazzpiew84904 жыл бұрын
@uncjim Frazier was a basically a one dementional fighter..He wasn't scientific with his method of boxing..I don't know why he thought he could stand toe to toe against Foreman's big azz!! He kept approaching Foreman the same way over, and over and got beat down..You gotta have different tactics for different fighters...It's more than one way to skin a cat..Frazier was a one dementional fighter..
@uncjim4 жыл бұрын
SweetAzzPie W Agree
@trey43233 жыл бұрын
@@sweetazzpiew8490 Well the first fight he didn't really take foreman seriously and the 2nd fought he was past prime and health issues were taking its toll.
@albanyorganics30303 жыл бұрын
@@trey4323 Joe got up after every knockdown in both fights with Big George. Chin of steel and heart of a champ.
@uncjim3 жыл бұрын
@@albanyorganics3030 Without question..great fighter was Smokin’ Joe Frazier.
@vincentfisher16033 жыл бұрын
Imagine Ringo against Berbick or Shavers. Wildly entertaining I think.
@ernestoe.chavezt.543 жыл бұрын
No Bonavena never win Never FOREMAN kill Bonavena
@vincentfisher16033 жыл бұрын
@@ernestoe.chavezt.54 Really. I would predict a very entertaining match. Others like Gil Clancy have wondered about this bout that never happened. Styles do make for interesting or uninteresting matches.
@delpage13 жыл бұрын
Funny watching him made me think of Berbick as well. Strong and effectively awkward.
@draconpersistente220 Жыл бұрын
Ambos gladiadores demostraron gran caballerosidad clase y educación
@MikeOldManHeanue3 жыл бұрын
What a battle :)
@joecurmaci58803 жыл бұрын
It's almost like older guys like me revisiting and truly not understanding what we were witnessing
@mikenw2532 жыл бұрын
Frazier was in only his 12th fight, had never gone more than six rounds and they put him in there with a much more experienced fighter, a tough fighter--and it nearly was a disaster. I'd say Frazier won more rounds, but Bonavena had Frazier in bad trouble in the second and in moderate trouble in the 10th. This could have gone either way depending on if there could have been two-point rounds for Bonavena.
@jeffeverett2745 ай бұрын
Ringo was awkward at times, but very powerful.
@gopherstate7774 жыл бұрын
Bonavena won this fight. And he was leading against Ali until Ali dropped him in the 15th. So many good heavyweights at this time, Chuvalo, Quarry, Boneveana, Ingo. Even Patterson was competitive. And Foreman and Holmes and Norton coming up in a few years. Wow, there should have been an international Heavyweight title for guys not fighting the big 3 heavyweights. (Ali, Frazier, Foreman). Round out the group with Ron Lyle and Ernie Shavers and keep them busy with a lot of great fights headlining just the core talent which was so deep. Because the money was on just these three we have some serious gaps in matchups that never happened. Think about it: Ken Norton never fought Joe Frazier. That should have happened! No rematch between George Foreman and Ali??? The champ always gets a return bout right? Foreman never fought Larry Holmes? Because of this, you cannot rank a few of these fighters against the all-time great. You can have an opinion, but you need to prove it in the ring! A similar thing happened during the 1950s with middleweights: Champs Robinson, Fulmer, Lamotta, Graziano, Basilio, and Zale. All 6 were champs, But Robinson would not fight Tony Zale, even after comedian Jerry Lewis offered Robinson $300,000 dollars in 1956 money to fight Zale. And Tyson should have fought Foreman for lineage rights.
@tareks-j89404 жыл бұрын
Lmao leading against ali he only won like 2 rounds are you blind
@juandumois53374 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Norton and Frazier didn’t fight cus they both trained w Eddie Futch
@anthonyminor31604 жыл бұрын
Exactly did he win any rounds
@3rdpersonality484 жыл бұрын
@@juandumois5337 jimmy Ellis and Ali boxed..also were sparring partners and same gym
@3rdpersonality484 жыл бұрын
Oscar wasn't leading it was close but Ali was outboxing Oscar
@beatlejim643 жыл бұрын
September 21,1966...MSG...NYC.
@pafloman Жыл бұрын
Siempre admiré a Ringo, por su rudeza, su valentía y hasta por su personalidad.
@oscararevalo2134Ай бұрын
Para gamhar de um americano, sendo a luta nos estados unidos, se não ganhar por KO, vc perderá por pontos. Todos sabem disso. Sempre fizeram isso. Bonavena ganhou essa luta....derrubou fraizer varias vezes...e perdeu por pontos! Incrivel como manejavam os resultados!
@la2972es Жыл бұрын
Que grande ringo enfrentó y complicó a las leyendas más grandes del boxeo.
@seneca9913 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: I am not Argentinian. I'm just an educated box fan. My take on this fight: it should have been a draw. Why? 1-Oscar won 3 rounds. The second round should have been scored 10-7 Frazier was the aggressor bur he never had Bonavena hurt. Two rounds were even. 2- Frazier came back on the third the same way Pryor did after the infamous drink he had on the Arguello fight. Nobody can tell me that Frazier could come back like nothing happened on the 3rd round the way he did without some corner "help". 3- I counted about 24 intentional low blows from Frazier and just 3 from Oscar. Oscar also hit Frazier 2 times behind the head intentionally. Oscar only complained about a low blow in the 7th round. I can't imagine any of today's boxers going without complaining for 1 round after repeated low blows. Frazier was good but he cheated big time on this fight and the scoring was old style. Oscar's corner didn't give him any special juice during the fight and that was obvious
@troyschaffer1907 Жыл бұрын
Now that was a good fight two warriors
@victorianicolau94312 жыл бұрын
Oscar came close and I can see 94-94 (6-4 Joe) but I had it 95-93 for Joe 7-3 Joe in rounds
@FRANCISCOJOSEHAUTEQUESTTCOUTIN3 ай бұрын
You understand of fight of boxe congratulation for you Victória
@heyhuey44294 жыл бұрын
Bonavena was 1 knockdown away from having a completely different life.
@BOXINGLEGENDS4 жыл бұрын
Exactly like Buster Mathis... but he broke his thumb and Joe become a legend.. you can watch about that story on our channel. Thx for comment.
@realworldwarriorstreet13954 жыл бұрын
Wasnt a strong knockdown, 2nd was more off balance
@heyhuey44294 жыл бұрын
@@realworldwarriorstreet1395 History wouldn't care.
@realworldwarriorstreet13954 жыл бұрын
@@heyhuey4429 Clowns that dont know wont care, you tube experts, real fighters will know Bonavena got shot dead at a massage parlour when he decided to take one of the girls with him
@bonerici4 жыл бұрын
Joe frazier had such a great style great fighter. Bonavena was a fine fighter but not in joe's class.
@RepiolaJC3 жыл бұрын
Si Ringo supira tirar ganchos como Foreman, la victoria era indiscutible. Grande Ringo👍👍
@maximilianogabriel99823 жыл бұрын
Seguro .. foreman era letal así lo destruyó a Norton para mí más peligroso que Frazier ..
@JamesDoe-ie1sb7 ай бұрын
Did the announcer stubble , calling out the black trunk wearer?
@active.7universal2 жыл бұрын
Oscar won this bout //split rounds with Oscar dominating the champ round 2 knockdowns
@milkynebula7620 Жыл бұрын
Bonavena definetly won this fight. Those judges were very biased against him. He outpunched Frazier and seemed to his 2nd wind as Joe seemed to slow down and get more sluggish in his form.
@3rdpersonality484 жыл бұрын
Oscar won, 4 rounds each 2 even Oscar dominated round 2 and the championship round .
@BlakeHardisonMMA3 жыл бұрын
Nah bro Oscar won 1,2, and 10, Joe won the rest
@active.7universal2 жыл бұрын
agree Oscar won this bout
@cugelchannel47334 күн бұрын
I'd say Bonavena might have slightly won that fight. He knocked Frazier down twice in the 2nd and Frazier won a bunch of rounds in the middle. But, Bonavena scored well in the 10th too.
@daviddavies29453 жыл бұрын
To be honest, thought it was a home town decision. Thought Bonavena shaded it.
@daviddavies29453 жыл бұрын
@branded beast Don't think race is an issue here. The fight was at Madison Square Garden, New York. U.S. boxing fans would always back their own man.
@goyonman96553 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavies2945 @Micalzon Cillo Frazier won rounds 1,3,4,5,7,9 Drew round 8 Lost rounds 2,6,10 He won the bout
@micalzoncillo2493 жыл бұрын
@@goyonman9655 you are on drugs. they won 5 rounds each and ringo knocked him down twice, frazier didn't fight well enough to erase the knockdowns.
@ahmadguided51432 жыл бұрын
Man, you are the only one i see, who got a real attention at this fight. There is nothing serious Freizer done to Oscar, but Oscar really troubled Freizer. Seems both had equal counts. So, where is advantage? Oscars side.
@fudgenugget8875 Жыл бұрын
@David Davies it's not race it's pro American bias
@Demha-l5gАй бұрын
I miss Ali...no one i have watched before Ali (youtube)...come close to beauty Ali brought to boxing ...no one close to Ali he put his work where his mouth was...RIP ...
@realg52763 жыл бұрын
Frazier proves here in only his 12pro fight that he was a future champion. Getting off the canvas twice to rock back like the tiger he was told us he was the goods.
@PROFESSOR-I.C. Жыл бұрын
The referee was not good allowing Frazier head butting Bonavena many times which led to the cut over Bonavena's left eye in the 2nd round. Frasier also landed many low blows but was only warned once. I scored the fight a draw. If points were deducted as they should've been, Bonavena would've won. 35:36
@MichaelDuignan-p2c8 ай бұрын
First lie . Joe Frazier was not the " Former Olympic Heavyweight King . He won in 1964 . This fight was in 1966 and the next Olympic Heavyweight King would be George Foreman in 1968 .