This scene won an oscar (We Both Reached for the Gun) | Chicago | CLIP

[@Thehouseoffail]

I just love the line "See how his mouth never moves. Almost". Implying that some of the reporters are well aware of the coaching she recieved, but they will pretend they don't if the story is good enough.

[@jabadashudau2422]

Could you explain further cause i am stupid.

[@CharcoalSlide]

@@jabadashudau2422 Basically, the ventriloquist doll had been given coaching, maybe acting lessons. When the person controlling the doll talks for the doll, it is meant to represent his coaching lessons (Or so I had assumed). When the man, I think he is one of the reporters, says "See how his mouth never moves. Almost", implies that the reporters were aware of the acting lessons, but as long as the story sounds interesting, it's going to go famous, and earn money anyway.

[@Samtasticano]

I thought it was bcuz he was talking his own story through the girl. "How his mouth never moves", it's like he was there and she was not talking by herself.

[@jabadashudau2422]

@@CharcoalSlide thanks for the explanation. Even if they've only said "See how his mouth never moves" without the "Almost" it would still mean that they are aware of the manipulation.By the way I have never seen the movie .

[@MeowCowGoPow]

1 thousandth like!

[@euclyptuseuphoria3759]

1:30 I love their faces in this scene, its like they realise they have the reporters eating from the palm of their hand

[@forgottenvivreto8229]

They both look so smug

[@thiccbexi5417]

I love it so much, her face reads a fresh, never seen this level of manipulation, excitement, while his face reads as if this is the 100th time doing this

[@Hung_Nguyen_90]

The guy look like Walter (the puppet of Jeff Dunham) 😅

[@2804isa]

@@thiccbexi5417omg yes!! so well put

[@carsonokeeffe]

when you pay attention to the reporters in the background...it's amazing. those people probably got very little recognition/no stardom from it and yet they are incredibly talented.

[@KeiPalace]

The chorus line baby they made a whole musical for them

[@carsonokeeffe]

@@KeiPalace good to know, thanks baby

[@lane1536]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@JosieTyner-s7u]

You're kidding right?! To be credentialed as having appeared in that movie is gold!

[@Marcwest70]

Why they call it an ensemble

[@Vziimn]

2:52 I love how when all the reporters are repeating back the lie, miss sunshine isn’t repeating it, and is actually conducting the reporters. It’s like she knows that this is jargon, but feeds the press because it’s what they want, and what will sell papers. You can also see that while all the other reporters are moving at the same time/together, Miss sunshine is moving on her own strings, and you can even see her strings go in-front of the arch and curtain that the reporters are behind. I LOVE this !! And when she whips the paper behind her head, you can see her expression. She doesn’t look as frantic as all the other reporters, and it shows she isn’t like the other reporters. Flynn may still have her under his strings, but she’s on different strings and somehow sways the press in Flynn’s favour

[@cryoblaster8371]

Haven't seen this movie but from this song and your added analysis my assumption is she's been paid to control the narrative. With the interview scene having been scripted by her and her higher ups for this purpose, each of the questions and answers being controlled specifically to solidify the story for the press and thus validate the story in court

[@leinonibishop9480]

basically she's a paid shill. someone supposedly random from the crowd that confirms or supports the story to make it more believable to everyone else. she's being controlled, but she's also in on the control. tent revivalists do this ,and magicians, and so do politicians of course.

[@KuyruksuzSatyr]

@@cryoblaster8371 Also she says "Now, tell us Roxxy!" and that "now" kinda implies she knows there is an act to follow.

[@slugmik]

i adore their response to “how old were you” because it wasnt a question they had prepared for; they both look at each other and panic and billy says she doesnt remember because he cant think of a lie in time.

[@cassidillad9421]

i’ve actually heard that answer being interpreted as a continuation of the narrative that roxie is innocent, and kinda ditzy. the movie is based in 1924, and if she just got there in 1920, they’re portraying her as wide eyed and new to big city life, and if she can’t remember something like her age four years ago, she can’t be guilty to a crime such as this. but i think you’re right, based on their faces and the little elbow jab roxie gave, maybe the theory ive heard may have less merit than i thought

[@benwhistlecroft600]

I interpreted it as she didn’t want to give her age to come across as young as possible. She taps him to be like “never mention a woman’s age” type thing

[@Venus_beenus]

AHH I thought it was just coz of the "a lady never tells her age" but this makes a lot more sense

[@randomitalianinthecomments]

I alao guess they didn't want to give away data that could be disproven. say she had said she was 19, they could've looked at the records of the Convent of the Sacred Heart and found out there was no 19-year-old Roxie.

[@ToeTag1968]

Ben has it right. She ribs him so he won't divulge her age.

[@lucascarter5595]

Literally still the best musical movie adaptation. To elevate the source material, intercut it with live scenes like it wasn't a musical. Genius

[@PILOSOPAUL]

100%!!!

[@quinnaddison420]

Even on a rewatch, I still can’t believe how good it is

[@WeeklyGoodies]

The best part is that it received a lot of inspiration from both the current Chicago revival that's playing along with the original version of the musical that came out in 70s!

[@quinnaddison420]

@@WeeklyGoodies omg you’re saying Chicago took inspiration from Chicago and Chicago? WILD

[@ch0irmast3r]

@@quinnaddison420😂😂😂

[@leagrieger1998]

2:24 When he yelled we both reached for the GUN threw her on floor is iconic

[@mimiozee]

He had other puppets to attend to

[@N0faced_SCP]

@@mimiozeereal heh

[@andreatreese8347]

The most brilliant part is that his favorite reporter doesn't have the marionette makeup, so it looks like she is special, and it even looks that way as she directs the others--but she still has the strings. That is such a BRILLIANT detail for this number, and I love it.

[@SigFigNewton]

Like she’s in on the the using of the rest of the press but is still being used by the lawyer

[@rufuspearce9378]

Mrs. Hofstadter?

[@TeaLoungeNYC]

I didn't catch that... brilliant

[@justapoorboy8848]

Legitimately, I thought at some point it would be revealed that she and Billy were in cahoots with each other and purposefully playing off of each other, just because the chemistry between the actors was so *good* on the screen.

[@Jxrfv456y]

I think she's very aware that every word out of his mouth is a lie but she's also happy to play along because it benefits her to print juicy inspiring stories just as much as it benefits him. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually plan out the narratives of some of the more public cases together but I also don't think that's necessary for them since it could also work as an unspoken alliance or symbiotic relationship of sorts

[@SethRadius1]

I'm surprised after all this time, no one has caught the significance of the moment at 1:10. She takes aim straight away as if pointing at an even level line of sight, and he adjusts it as if she was pointing down, implying she didn't have intent to kill. This small thing always stuck out to me.

[@trinityfaithpanganiban2654]

Ive never thought abt it that way oh my. That is so much better than the he didnt wanna get overshadowed/covered bit

[@slimcourage901]

You could also interpret it as her arm was blocking the view of his face, and he wants to be in the spotlight just as much as she does.

[@thonk7611]

im pretty sure that's what its supposed to be good catch!

[@nomoretwitterhandles]

@@slimcourage901 Or perhaps both! Like "hey kid, stay in your lane and listen to me!"

[@starlxsttt]

I noticed that too!

[@thegreatmajora5089]

My favorite little bit is at 1:10 : the way Flynn just pulls her hand away from his face says so much about how they’re both there for their egos

[@iddomargalit-friedman3897]

As someone else mentioned here, it's likely to show no intent to kill

[@amandaking6653]

And his face when looking at her!

[@lovelyllama12]

I think its representing her pointing the gun directly, which he adjusts to show that it was an “accident”

[@jacquelinemcnaughton1824]

My favorite moment has always been when Roxie says, "Are you kidding?"

[@rogue7723]

Me too. It was the _one time_ Roxie had _any autonomy_ in the whole press conference and she said _so much_ with just _three words._

[@derekfnord]

My favorite is right after that, with the annoyed sideeye that Billy gives her. Richard Gere conveys a whole scolding with that one glance. So expressive!

[@natalie9185]

Same! Her face is priceless

[@TransfemMarta]

It's so good! Even though though she's being told what to say by him, for a splut second, you get to see how she *really* feels. I find his subtle look of surprise very amusing.

[@SigFigNewton]

@@derekfnordas he quite literally jerks her back in line

[@olleronn616]

Zellwegger is doing such a fantastic performance as the doll.

[@bercg]

She was fantastic throughout. Personally I feel like she was robbed of the Oscar. CZJ was great but a bit hammy for my tastes (although it works in this context) but I felt like Zellweger WAS Roxie, so intense and feral was her performance.

[@warlordofbritannia]

I’ll take “Things that sounds like an insult but aren’t” for 300, Alex

[@assmane999]

So good. This is one of the best if not THE best musical numbers you’ll ever see in film

[@assmane999]

@@bercgI thought Catherine was amazing. And there’s one number that won her the Oscar (“she’d go”). But yea, Renee was great too.

[@jeanee1228]

Like, truly stellar. I can’t not stop to watch this scene whenever I come across it. It’s crazy good and she steals the scene

[@Paige-Turnner]

When he drinks the milk and sings "gun", it's not just a ventriloquist trick. In this particular scene it is showing how the narrative is taking off without him saying another word.

[@kelf114]

It's also overdubbed. 😄

[@voixlavoix]

@@kelf114 Well yeah of course..

[@kristheratgod]

@@kelf114yes we know that, but actual ventriloquists do that trick is what OP was saying

[@AnthonyLeachman-sc6es]

​@@kelf114⛪ 🙂👍🏿

[@johnkelly928]

Don't forget the quick shot of him laughing and throwing his head back as the marionette during the milk drinking "gun" is sang out.... Showing him controlling the narrative right after the shot of all the men opening the newspapers with the headline. So much context and exposition in three quick shots.

[@HalfEatenMedia]

This film could be released in 2024 and would still have won 6 Oscar’s. It’s a timeless masterpiece and arguably the greatest musical ever made.

[@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man]

Probably would’ve won more considering the slop we’re getting now

[@sianais]

Actually, it wouldn't qualify based on the new diversity rules.

[@HalfEatenMedia]

@@sianais neither would the Lord of the Rings movies. What a disgrace Hollywood has become

[@youre_totally_right_but_]

I watched it for the first time and compared to the musical movies that have been released (mean girls, willy wonka, the color purple, etc.) this one that was released 22 years ago is the best ive ever seen. greatness is timeless

[@RoXiNeCqA]

I saw a theatre adaptation in Slovakia today. Marvellous.

[@helloirene8352]

Noting how when she goes "are you kidding?" he clearly has to scramble to create context for her words because she went off-script. Very nice detail

[@EthalaRide]

The movie Chicago, to me, is the best example of utilizing the medium to the fullest extent to tell a story. There's stuff in the movie you CAN'T do in the live show; cutting, editing, rapid visual juxtaposition. The fact that it keeps cutting back and forth to reality and the style of all these vaudeville showy numbers is narratively perfect for Roxie as character's perception of reality and interpretation of events. She wants nothing more than to be a stage presents so she copes and interprets everything as this whole show. This scene, Roxie's first night in jail (Cellblock Tango), and the execution of the innocent Hungarian woman (Hungarian Disappearing Act) are tremendous examples of the power of editing like this. But the first real example you see of the _effectiveness_ of the editing Chicago is going to utilize throughout the film is the ICONIC moment in All That Jazz when Roxie sees Velma perform and it cuts on the beat closer and closer between Roxie being engrossed in the show and Velma performing, until SHE is on stage singing the final "JAAAAAAAAaaaAAAAAAAAAZZ" note than being dragged away by her date. It PERFECTLY sets up who Roxie is, what her motivation is, how she isn't quite in touch with reality. All the styalization from here on isn't just "this is how Chicago/the director/the author tells a story" but "this is how ROXIE tells a story." And that's AWESOME.

[@isla.luvs.skellies]

my EXACT THOUGHTS. i watched chicago for the first time the other day and immediately fell in love with it. honestly i thought i was the only one who interpreted that the musical scenes were created by Roxie's imagination

[@sheiladolinshek1339]

Exactly. This has to be the most perfect utilization of the movie musical format.

[@Mollymauking]

one of the only parts i didn't like was how they did my girl mary sunshine 😔 also i miss me and my baby

[@dinorex4105]

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[@eviehammond9509]

​@@isla.luvs.skellies Very well said & I couldn't agree more with you!

[@rogerdavis5142]

Sublime scene! The score, acting, directing, camera work, lighting, editing, choreography….all superb!

[@zap0918]

This was a fantastic movie! I watched it in my college Humanities class.

[@TheKonnoisseur11]

Makeup too

[@andrecosta8680]

And screenwriting

[@chrisalister2297]

How predictable.

[@yea4253]

Anything but

[@chriswelter3859]

This movie is great because every musical scene is intercut with whats really happening in “reality”. These people aren’t just breaking into song randomly; the songs are more of a representation of whats happening to the characters, and it’s shown in the most clear way I’ve seen in a musical. Edit 1 year later: holy sh*t 38k likes? Didn't think this would register with anyone. Pretty sure i typed it while high

[@diagonotter]

I mean, characters are never randomly breaking out in song. When their emotions are too big for speech, they sing.

[@JessieJellybeans]

Duh

[@chriswelter3859]

@@diagonotter yeah but usually they just straight-up break into song and suddenly they’re dancing in a kitchen or whatever. In this movie, the musical numbers will be portrayed by the actors as they perform an elaborate act on a stage, but then the scene will be intercut with shots of what’s “really” going on. It’s just a nice change of pace in musical filmmaking.

[@chriswelter3859]

@@JessieJellybeans cope?

[@sophovot5079]

That's what most musicals are, the songs are non-diegetic and are a representation of the characters emotions. Here it's just made extra clear for people who don't get it I guess

[@rands-ut8nm]

Did anyone else notice that Roxie starts off sitting on Billy’s right leg, but towards the end, as the tempo increases at around 3:27 she jumps up, takes a spin, sits down squarely on his lap, makes an “oopsie” expression 🤭, and then bounces up and down, flailing from side to side until the song’s climax (pun intended), essentially “screwing” the press. Brilliant! 😂

[@finleyforevermore]

How have I never noticed that??? That's such a smart and funny detail!

[@jcnbw01]

I first thought this implied that Billy and Roxy were having a bit of fun on the side, but your interpretation makes much more sense aesthetically speaking

[@carolinemaynard8283]

Haha no I had never noticed that before. 🙊 this whole piece is absolutely brilliant and it’s my favourite!

[@HarleyLuna31]

I noticed the same,i even wonder if their were actually screwing while he was her lawyer

[@jurgabob]

@@HarleyLuna31 me personally i think its to show that theyre both using eachother

[@bobblehead7002]

2:52 I just can't stop watching the background actors as puppets. Their movements are so convincing and mesmerizing

[@smeepostrashbucket6077]

3:38 I like the way she bobbles her head like an actual marionette with no control over its neck

[@VitorAbreu-tg7sg]

Miss sunshine?

[@nhankhanhnguyen6432]

The way Christine Baranski sing "Now tell us, Roxie" at 0:49 is so pleasing, like it scratches my brain

[@smellsofcum]

@@nhankhanhnguyen6432 does she fart to the star spangled banner

[@liraalexia4892]

I've always loved the way that she speaks.

[@SDKoka]

I've always loved hearing Richard Gere talk about how hard he worked on this picture. A true professional, he had the acting chops for it, but always said how hard he worked to get to the level of Rene, Catherine, and everyone else who came from a musical and dancing background. A true professional works at something until it looks easy, and Richard rehearsed again and again until it was perfect. And this is one of the toughest songs on Broadway, too - you gotta know it inside and out!

[@homelesshannah50]

He played Danny Zuko in Grease circa 1975 so he's done a musical before, this ain't his first rodeo.

[@gregtarris9057]

@@homelesshannah50that's a 20 year gap

[@homelesshannah50]

@@gregtarris9057 So, he's still good at it.

[@katerascott9573]

3:07 I’ve always loved the hand movements of Roxie’s claps here it’s so animatronic

[@Ambibsopmop]

1:31 I love the moment where theyre both like "aww man, this is sorta workin."

[@deidarafangirl911]

No praise for the make up/hair team yet? I always love how plastic-y/wooden they got all the puppet people to look in this sequence. It legit looks uncanny.

[@lqr824]

one thing is that they edited out all of Renee's blinking, which helps her look like a dummy. Another thing is that they're just seriously good actors. The first time I saw this scene I lost track of the fact Renee was even a human. She's my vote for best actress of the last 30 years: she can be so legitimately smart, stupid, sexy, off-putting, alive, doll-like. I think this was her first singing and dancing and she danced better, frankly than Zeta Jones. Just the few seconds in this clip where she's shown as a human seem so lifelike and reactive compared to the dummy act.

[@aniqueevans1547]

I remember watching this as a child and going back and forth in my mind trying to determine if they had actually made a prop doll for this scene or if it was really her. I don't think I ever actually reached a conclusion until I rewatched it again in college.

[@tonyplaysthemambo]

I like how Christine Baranski's character is less made up than the other marionettes, suggesting that of all the journalists she is the one most capable of thinking for herself and being suspicious of what she's being fed.

[@Schmoityface]

Thanks for not saying "legit."

[@thatchervandenhemel8899]

@@Schmoityfacelmao

[@RebeccaTetteh-cj2wl]

2:03 i love how she said,'Are you kidding'

[@thomasgray8488]

2:45 I like how the pronunciation is "It's so defensiBULL"

[@Paige-Turnner]

Never noticed that before! 😯

[@morgdaforg]

thats just singing, singing "ooooooool" sounds much prettier and is easier than "llllllll"

[@thomasgray8488]

Give the writers and performers some credit here; it could be both@@morgdaforg

[@myfriendfreckle]

It’s emphasized cause the story is total BULL crap!

[@MrSoBitchy]

Woah! I must have heard this song dozens of times and never realized it. I feel stupid now. What a cool detail!

[@maiosmay]

2:15 this part is so SATISFYING her wink was perfection

[@JessicaAbbey-Atreus]

Anyone criticising Richard Gere’s voice here hasn’t heard a single record from the 1920’s.

[@bungalowlogic7676]

How many would be shocked to learn the role was originated by that old grumpy detective from Law & Order, Jerry Orbach

[@Jamie_E_Pritchard]

@@bungalowlogic7676 One hell of a singer and I believe he played Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast.

[@Totally_Glitched]

@@Jamie_E_Pritchard Yes, he did! Also fun fact, Jerry Orbach and David Ogden Stiers, who played Cogsworth, both had multiple appearances on Murder, She Wrote, which starred Angela Lansbury, who played Mrs. Potts.

[@ellaenergy]

People are criticizing his voice??? I think he has a wonderful voice!!

[@mistamemewide]

@@Totally_Glitchedso what youre saying is Beauty and the Beast is just one big Law and Order Episode.

[@WhiskyKM]

0:30 Their looks, voices and what they ask fit so perfectly...

[@nekona7620]

This was the last movie I saw physically in a theater with my Mother before she passed. She passed years later, but was in a nursing home for the last ten years of her life and never could physically get to a movie theater again. I’m glad it was a hell of a movie to end her movie theater going on. She loved it!

[@ginntastic]

Very sorry about your mother. I'm glad you have this memory with her.

[@randygross1050]

Can you watch it mentally in a theater?

[@ricardomadureirarodrigues8411]

My comment is a bit off, but similar. My mother loved soap operas (we're Brazilians) and I only succeeded in taking her to the movies once, to watch "Coco" (which is actually about death). She passed away three months later. I've yet to understand what on earth went on. She said, "Waw, if heavens is like that, then it's a good place, party all the time". Yeah, mom, I hope you're partying up there. Sorry for your mom too.

[@duckysguidetoshipping8930]

I’m so sorry for your loss sending lvoe❤ hru?

[@ricardomadureirarodrigues8411]

@@duckysguidetoshipping8930 You're never the same after you lose your mother (if she is a loving one, I suppose), but life finds its ways. We plod through the desert of life until we eventually arrive where we're heading to (unokwingly). So I just try to be patient and wait. I hope we'll be together again so we can laugh together at the things we loved to share.

[@mozmwhite2513]

Is it weird that I've never seen neither film, nor musical, and yet totally get it, off this one song?

[@ollieno971]

You should watch the movie it’s so good!!

[@DannyInCanada]

you need to see "Razzle Dazzle" and "Cell Block Tango".

[@Sakurareviews]

1:18 is when you still got 100 words left in your essay.

[@ItzJayneey]

STOPP 😭

[@acarasquero]

Fr

[@AUCreatoer]

LMAOOOO

[@rachelthegreat2959]

THIS IS SO TRUE 😂😂😂

[@StarlightLexie]

I love how at 2:22 it's almost like he was waiting for the most perfect opportunity, and suddenly finds just the time to reignite it, immediately opening his eyes, letting go of her and speaking up instead

[@aurelie8220]

This is how musicals and live action remakes should be redone. They have respect for the original material (you want to see what you love brought to life on the screen) and they build upon it with movie magic to make it better in ways that the original could not. And NOT completely changing the characters’ appearances and personalities or changing main plot points and adding weird backstories like about parents and such.

[@leonlinton634]

But didn't they change a significant aspect by making Roxie less malicious? Her killing Fred in a rage after being assaulted is completely different to her cold and calculated murder in the stage musical and is probably the only thing I don't like so much about this adaptation.

[@TheZirael]

​@@leonlinton634 was she assaulted though? a genuine question, it's been some time since I watched the movie. I always thought she murdered him because she realized all his promises were a lie and he just used her. she seems kinda into it when they get in on.

[@leonlinton634]

​@@TheZiraelIn the movie he shoves her violently to the floor and threatens worse; she kills him in a moment of rage and shock. In the stage version, Roxy is fully aware of what she's doing and doesn't show the slightest bit of remorse.

[@noashaham5438]

@@leonlinton634I can see where you’re coming from, but this seems like a deliberate choice for a very good reason, considering previous attempts at adapting musicals to movies. Check out “little shop of horrors”, they actually reshot the movie ending after the opening night, because some things just don’t translate well from stage to screen

[@Spagbolisnotme]

@@leonlinton634I much prefer the way Roxie murders Fred in the movie. On the stage it just seems too horrible and cold blooded that Roxie seems like a sociopathic monster. In the movie it’s so much more powerful with it happening in a fit of rage and the acting is just superb. It’s a lot more realistic and less jarring; Roxie’s still as unlikeable anyways

[@Wednesdaywoe1975]

He must have been in fantastic shape. He lifts Renee like she weighs nothing, and later does a full tapdance number.

[@homelesshannah50]

She DOES weigh nothing she looks here like she wouldn't clear 112 pounds

[@dtulip1]

she probably did weigh nothing

[@distion]

Don't forget that she's doing a lot of the work here too, making yourself look weightless is one of the hardest parts of, for example, ballet

[@mkgaca8721]

​@distion especially with how going limp makes you even harder to carry, both had to work *hard*

[@mayaruffin2126]

Not to mention that was NOT him doing the tapping 😭😭😭

[@George-sy5ej]

Christine Baranski is so underrated

[@knoway35951]

She’s great in the Guilded Age.

[@krzysztofwitek597]

​@@knoway35951She's great everywhere.

[@Feisenbach]

Yet it should have been a male actor playing Mary Sunshine. Still don't understand why they chose a woman.

[@chriswelter3859]

Her profile is insanely unique. She looks like those old fashioned silhouette posters from the 20s with her upturned pixie-esque nose. She doesn’t look real.

[@minilea144]

@@Feisenbach Because it wasnt needed. Fosse didnt care either way. Picked the male to add a shock factor. But since Mary doesnt have her song, there no need for the shock factor. Had they used Mary's song, I'd understand. But in the film, no need.

[@alexsvarietyshow]

i dont have the context of the movie, but i think at 2:03, the “are you kidding?” said in the girls actual voice is meant to mean thats not apart of his narrative, supported by the way he pulls her back and looks concerned after

[@lainey6474]

Oh definitely. The guy she shot lied to her about believing that she had talent, lied about knowing someone in showbiz, and didn’t even bother to tell her during the affair that he had a wife and FIVE children.

[@tallysnull0716]

I love how Roxie nudges Billy at 0:34 to show that she was unsure of what to answer since they didn't prepare for that question

[@vinnie8300]

hi tanaka

[@tallysnull0716]

@@vinnie8300 hello

[@marleyginsky]

this scene is a wonderful depiction of what the characters are going through. the way they tied in the reporters being puppets was literally perfection

[@lqr824]

for instance the first time, Gere does the "both reached for the gun" spiel. Second time he has his doyenne of the press teaching it to the press corps, and the third time the press corps is shouting it in unison.

[@진스-v5z]

진짜.. 저 연기력봐라... 진짜 인형인줄;; 워메..

[@hangeulkim9697]

이거지 ㅎㅎ 눈정화

[@shp8268]

진짜 인형 같음. 화장도 한 몫 한 듯.

[@황금오렌지-q3e]

저도 영화 다시보니까 뮤지컬도 영화처럼 옷도 갈아입히고 분장도 매 씬마다 빡세게 바꿨으면 하는 마음도 드네요 ㅠ

[@BomaNamool]

티파니😂

[@이웃집또털어TOTORO]

시카고는 솔직히 뮤지컬 실사보다 영화가 훨씬 나음

[@강양이-m3w]

르네젤위거는 진짜 인형같네 연기넘잘함

[@김현윤-e5v]

진짜 디테일 미쳤네요 진짜 인형 앉혀놓은것처럼 발이 땅을 제대로 딛지않고있어 헐 진짜 인형같어요 줄에 매달린 인형

[@나는나다-k2u]

진짜 인형같음

[@Melanie-lp1dg]

0:26 르네 연기도 감탄나오는데 뒤에 기자들 인형 분장/연기도 소름돋네요 하여튼 이 장면 퀄리티는 미쳤음

[@Yuu_Yun]

entered the gun on the gravity falls website, guess its a reference to this song

[@pomipomilio]

i havent been updates on gravity falls in a while. so theres a website now? where can i find it? :0

[@ChaoticJstar]

LMFAO i came here to listen to it after finding that out since im a big chicago fan apparently bill is too

[@Drinoco098]

i love all the references

[@dlmytrx]

billy flynn as bill the catastrophic triangle 😮

[@stacypav1044]

Yes

[@timbyrne242]

Renee Zellweger's line delivery on "Are you kidding?!" is the best three seconds of her career.

[@cuteiswhatIaimfor]

Literally 😂so good!

[@jameskuckkan2326]

The press and the law having a love affair is such a great subtext. Absolutely love the emphasis on "bull" in the last "defensible" too.

[@FionaKelleghan111]

I love your observations, and I want to read your dissertation on the movie! Kidding, but I always noticed how Richard Gere sings it as "defensi-bull," and it didn't occur to me that there's a good reason for it. And I'm a literary scholar, I get _paid_ to notice things like that, lol. Thanks, James, you've brightened my day. 😊

[@Cosmobear]

Just a small little part I like is when Roxy points her hand out like the gun and it blocks his face and he doesn’t like that because he wants to be the center of attention so he pushes it down. Very subtle but very good.

[@beachchaos1863]

Oh my godddd that's why? I never caught that!

[@adtu21]

Wow that's why!😮

[@Cosmobear]

@@beachchaos1863 I don’t know if that’s why I would assume because at one point he throws her down on the ground just to sing and be the spotlight so watching it back this is all a performance by him really. Which is how he is with all of his friends because he’s more famous than they are. That’s how I interpreted it :)

[@Cosmobear]

@@adtu21 well also the idea of him being the puppet master. She’s his puppet, so even in the reality scenes he’s placed in front of the microphones more than she is. She’s kind of off to the side. It’s probably nothing. I’m just looking way too much into this.😂😂

[@minilea144]

@@Cosmobear Youre not off. Throughout the whole movie he IS manipulating the story because he wants to win. He manipulates her, the reporter, poor Amos and eventually Velma by having her commit perjury. While I dont think her hand popping up meant anything, he HAD to be in control to rule the narrative. I think every "mishap" she has in the dance was controlled by him other than "are you kidding?"

[@lizzfrmhon]

I’ll never forget being massively entertained with this movie until I saw what happened to the girl who was actually innocent. The tragedy mixed with the amazing vocals and choreography. This movie was soooo good.

[@SciFiknitter173]

Chicago was written by a crime reporter turned playwright as a criticism of a justice system that let pretty, socialite murderesses walk free but punished ugly, older, or poor women. Ekaterina's character (the woman who is executed) is based on Sabella Nitti, a poor Italian immigrant who was the first woman sentenced to death in Illinois. She spoke no English, was 40 and unhandsome, and was an easy scapegoat for the state after 29 women walked free on murder charges and they were eager to have a "win". Her sentenced actually got repealed (a fascinating story - a group of female Italian-origin lawyers took her case pro bono, gave her a makeover, and got the verdict reversed. She was freed until a retrial but a few months later got the quiet announcement the state dropped the charges) but Maurine Dallas Watkins, who wrote the play, had her hanged to make the point. There's a really good episode on the real people that Chicago is based on on the Exploress podcast, "lady killers: the women of Chicago's murderess row". Even the "we both reached for the gun" is a direct quote.

[@once.upon.a.time.]

@@SciFiknitter173 Wow! I'm so glad she didn't actually die. Thank you for sharing and for the podcast recommendation, I'm definitely going to check it out :D

[@monanaliza]

@@SciFiknitter173 thank you for sharing this, love to learn new things

[@johngalvin3124]

Fascinating

[@mikemanzato5219]

It was so much fun filming that scene!!!! The gun the gun the gun Was stuck in all our heads for weeks!! LMAO!!!

[@francescaa8331]

Hi. Were you one of the reporter dancers? Or crew?

[@mikemanzato5219]

I was crew! One of the Assistant Directors ​@@francescaa8331

[@민선생-w2p]

영화든 뮤지컬이든 어떤 매체로 봐도 이 장면은 진짜 최고군요

[@Bill.R.124]

Brilliant movie-making (without CGI) at its finest. I'd kill to see the behind-the-scenes for this scene. It has to be a nightmare with the puppet strings while trying to dance, act, sing. And there's Richard and Rene's incredible timing and sycnronicity.

[@elaineharley5501]

Rénee

[@amirekinartail8623]

I heard somewhere that the puppet strings had to be digitally edited in post production because it was too troublesome with real stings. still an amazing scene tho.

[@kristinoviedo34]

There’s a bunch of behind-the-scenes clips for this movie on KZbin, here’s one for this song specifically 😀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpyWdHyMfqqXlas

[@thebuttermilkyway687]

Renée

[@DbR777]

21 years of 'oh yes oh yes oh yes they both oh yes they both oh yes they both reached for the gun the gun the gun the gun oh yes they both reached for the gun for the gun' in my mind every two days

[@siobhant6656]

21 years of singing underSTAAAANDABULLLL whenever someone explains to me why they did something a certain way

[@supremeoverlord0]

​@@siobhant6656 My experience, too. People surprisingly say "understandable" a lot. Bonus points for me fighting not to burst out into song especially in professional settings. Haha

[@SigFigNewton]

@@supremeoverlord0your refusal to improve professional settings irks me

[@supremeoverlord0]

@@SigFigNewton So true, I think I could afford to channel my inner musical self a bit more. Time to pull out my best vantriliquest impression.

[@doikiterru]

​@@siobhant6656 Omg me too 😭

[@TraceyPatter]

Why Richard Gere was not nominated is just beyond me. Everyone in this was incredible.

[@thirtythreeflavors]

Because he openly was protesting china. Google it.

[@annic.9605]

He’s a vastly underrated actor

[@homelesshannah50]

Because he has always been seen as some "pretty boy" and not really taken seriously by Hollowwood even after An Officer and A Gentleman. He's had to work twice as hard to be seen as a good actor

[@meintveldman4769]

This is one of these scenes where, when you watch it many times, you discover new little gems again and again. A derail here, a little symbolism there, a word, a gesture..

[@francescaa8331]

Yes. A lot of thought went into it. I can't believe the complexity. Near the end, he's really "giving it" to everyone.

[@indigowolf556]

I think Richard Gere did a great job in this movie. And I think he has a decent place as well he should have been included in getting an award. He did a phenomenal job as well as did the others

[@AxelQC]

He won a SAG and Golden Globe for Chicago, but wasn't even nominated for an Oscar. Reilly was nominated for Supporting Actor.

[@jelsner5077]

He can't sing. That's why.

[@bkynbiker19]

I'd always understood he wanted, even insisted on being considered for best actor, not supporting, and that if he'd gone with the latter he would have been a shoo-in, at least for a nomination

[@omgwth7567]

The background dancers reporters are phenomenal! 🤩😍

[@JoelBrewton]

What makes the movie adaptation of "Chicago" really cool is that the narrative proper actually went through VERY few changes. Not much got added and not much cut. All of the biggest changes were completely stylistic which creates completely new context for the musical numbers. This scene actually plays out pretty similarly in the stage production, with Billy Flynn puppeteering Roxie. The biggest difference is that the stage version has more of a satirical edge to it that the movie lacks, so the most logical thing to do was make the musical numbers into completely non-diegetic fantasy sequences. The narrative itself is actually pretty conventional if you cut the songs out, and it allows them to experiment with way more techniques for THIS movie than for other musicals. If the movie had just played the songs as traditional numbers that you usually see in a musical, it wouldn't have allowed for them to make as much of an impact.

[@ileolai]

the complexity of staging, choreographing, and directing this must have been absolutely insane. not to mention the editing. sublime craftsmanship

[@stitchgor3]

The actors are all so good here! Making themselves seem so light and droopy

[@christineribone9351]

Best scene ever very deserving of an award

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

But none of them.got one...

[@christineribone9351]

@@lenawagenfuehr53 Really? This scene is my absolute favorite piece of work.

[@FixiSlaptaccount]

Well many of them did. Just only one actress did. She isn't in this scene though. Don't listen to that clown.@@christineribone9351

[@TruthSerum101]

There is no Oscar for best scene. There never has been.

[@solomoon3083]

I have watched Chicago a million times. And this will never not be amazing.

[@bucketsdoesstuff2824]

The slower "Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes they both..." part has been stuck in my head all day after I heard it in a reel, so I came here to see what the rest of the song was like. Holy HECK this is brilliantly done, putting this movie on my "Must Watch" list.

[@Mrwheresmyhouse]

I can't imagine how tough it must be to throw yourself around like a ventriloquist dummy and make it look realistic.

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

0:45 Is that the woman from the Jim Carey version of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas? 😂

[@minari9256]

yup 😭 she’s also in mamma mia

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

@@minari9256 I feel uncultured for only knowing her from a children’s Christmas movie.

[@ceilidhkympton8571]

She played Dr. Nora in Frasier, too.

[@king_cha0s]

omfg thank youu i could not place where i knew her from 😂😂😂❤

[@altanida1097]

She’s also in the Good Wife as a lawyer.

[@nancilucey2055]

This is one of my favorite parts in this film. Done exactly like on a Broadway Stage and it works. Fantastic scene!

[@gr4vitational]

2:52 is the part you're waiting for

[@SunlightThePony0c0]

YEAAHHH🗣️🗣️‼️‼️

[@M0nst3rEn3rgy_]

THANK U

[@whosshellyy]

TYSMM

[@OyLorelai]

THAT’S RIGHT

[@찡찡-s1y]

와 연출 연기 뭐하나 부족한게 없잖아…

[@PistachioDean]

I always thought Colleen Atwood did an outstanding job designing all the costumes. Nothing looks out of place for the 1920's but still has a theatrical flair to them.

[@coltonk.3086]

I love that the only line that Roxie Actually says is "Are you kidding?" Implying that that's the only thing she said that she wasn't coached to say. Also cutting back to reality to show it wasn't "part of the show". The execution of this scene is sheer brilliance.

[@stacyp2186]

I saw this movie and immediately bought a ticket to see it again. Then, called a friend and said this is going to win Best Picture. It is so good

[@brynb4906]

So glad this song and scene is getting the recognition it deserves, it's SO GOOD! All of the small details, the styling, and the editing going back and forth between the vaudeville show and the real events in the movie! I love Chicago so much

[@Zziiidaen]

여러 록시 보고왔는데 진짜 대박이다;;; 복화술이고 뭐고 록시연기만 보일정도로 잘함ㄷㄷ

[@sanjulienne]

I went to see this opening night (two days after Christmas 2002) at The Ziegfeld Theater in Manhattan, sold out. The lights began to dim and the ENTIRE THEATER lost their collective mind, ROARING applause in pure "only in New York" style. A spectacular film on every level and I remember turning to my friend sitting next to me about 30 minutes in and said "this movie is winning ALL the Oscars!"

[@LadyJuse]

3:02 is my favourite part, as it really shows how in control Billy is.

[@해달-w5g]

와 ~과장된 눈 표정 행동 모두 마리오네트 인형같다. 연기천재들

[@Macadamica]

0:24 - I know many people already get the meaning to this scene, but I love it so much. It's just funny seeing how Billy Flynn sees the press as a bunch of literal dummies 😂😂 Also, I love their performance skills to act like marionettes. 💙💙💙

[@geaj]

THIS is how you bring a musical to the screen!

[@beccamcdonald9846]

When I was in school my drama class did this musical for the “End of the year play” back in 2011. Participating in the play to some capacity counted 90% of our grade. I was one of the “reporters” and this song was challenging to learn. Not only we had to learn the choreography, but learning how to sing and dance at the same time was the challenging part. We all did really well once we got the hang of it. I really appreciate this play so much because this play gave me my first “Broadway” experience. We didn’t perform in front of the student body in our school auditorium. We performed the play to the public at a real public theater in my town. Performing this play was really the closest I got to being on Broadway. Even though I had a small part in the play it was so much fun to be a part of it all. To learning all the songs, to learning the dances, I’ll truly never forget it ☺️💜💜💜

[@leggomyeggo9]

2:55 even seeing it is not I still cannot comprehend this is not Lin Manuel Miranda speaking 😭

[@z.zzzz_zz]

HONESTLY

[@samf.s.7731]

I love this story because there's a moment as a kid when I realized that none of these people is a good person, they're all horrible, especially Roxy, but they're insanely entertaining characters and that's the magic of movies. Meeting people like that irl would have made me hurl, the movie though makes me grin ear to ear. What a feminist film too! Just outstanding (Probably because it's based on the play, and some people wouldn't compromise that vision). But yeah F word Harvey Weinstein, it's not like I am gonna forget that 😅 Aside from this number, Queen Latifa's song as mama, Roxy's song, and John C Riley's Mr. Cellophane were insanely memorable.

[@LadyOndyne]

Actually is based on a play based on a novel based on actual events of two criminals. And the "moral" of the real stories was the "if you are pretty,look innocent and have a silver tonge you can get away with murd3r" They were released with many clues pointing premeditation, guiltiness and 0 regrets. But they were just "too pretty". The writer (a journalist, a woman) also has a parody of herself in the character Mary Sunshine.

[@samf.s.7731]

@@LadyOndyne That's not a moral to the story... As you can see, it's a rather harmful notion to suggest as it's destructive to society. It's supposed to mock reality in this regard. I am aware of the play. This is not the "moral" of the story, it's a cynical comment. It's a feminist movie because it depicts women as not just some helpless doormats, even when a picture is painted about them in the media that they're helpless doormats. In a world where her lawyer exists, Roxie serves like the female equivalent to him. It's not like she was gonna be able to get a JD at the time, but she worked within the confines of the system holding her down, and still managed to come out triumphant.

[@AxelQC]

They were cold blooded murder who got off because of public sympathy. They craved fame and money even more than they cared about their trials.@@samf.s.7731

[@CriticalListener]

The only two innocents in this are the two who got an outcome they did NOT deserve: "Mr. Cellophane" and the foreign woman in "Cell Block Tango".

[@matthewpage8313]

Pretty much. Take away the peppy and flashy musical numbers, and Chicago is a pretty dark and somber noir crime drama.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

The actors were unbelievably good. What a film!!

[@nimeshsingh4943]

The video quality on this improved my eyesight by 100% and paid off my loans. It's like 3D. I've seen other clips of this video but never this clear- bless you

[@mimilook4347]

The way this movie is both loved but also underrated. I don't see it getting the proper love it deserves. It's brilliant. I loved it so much and every time I see it I adore it

[@aRandomGemini]

1:19 the voice here just makes my brain feel complete for some reason lol

[@ellenchavez2043]

"Cellblock Tango" is my favorite.

[@TheSharron]

Mine,too!

[@sschimel]

I'm not a fan of either Zellweger or Gere and they're both fabulous in the movie. And I think Fosse would have been thrilled with the final product.

[@julesk2629]

So why aren’t are you a fan of them?

[@miz_logo_lee]

Same. I usually find Gere arrogant and Zellweger flakey but it is to their advantages here.

[@calarch78]

She was absolutely fabulous in Judy. I hope you’ve seen it. I’m not sure how an actor’s performance can be “flakey,” which means “unreliable.”

[@hippityhoppityw]

​@@calarch78I think between this era and Judy, she took a lot not great roles so that might be why. But that probably shouldn't discount what her talent is capable of like in this or Judy. Looking at her catalogue, I would even say there is only one role that utilized her ability after Chicago but before Judy was Cinderella Man. And even that movie always felt like a worse Raging Bull, where she kinda acts around Russell Crowe imo

[@Maine_Course]

@@miz_logo_lee You might be one or two who don't like them vs. the world. There must be something wrong about you. 😅

[@amityislandchum]

Renee deserved an Oscar for this role.

[@thenightporter]

I think it's her best role. When I first heard that she was going to play Roxie I thought it was an awful idea. Her performance blew me away -- she absolutely nailed it.

[@pinkcryptodroid7715]

How many times did you watch this? Me: Yes

[@FionaKelleghan111]

Me: Also yes. 😃

[@TinaICXCNIKA]

Also, Also Me: Yes

[@FionaKelleghan111]

@@TinaICXCNIKA "Are you sorry?" -- "Are you _kidding?"_ 😂

[@rebeccaxcarol]

This movie truly does this musical justice. This is my favorite version of this song. ❤

[@bbbitttna]

이거지…이 장면에서 록시는 마리오네트처럼 연기해야하는데….우리나라는 아쉬운 점이 많음ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[@nerds5006]

여기까지 기어와서 악플다는 정성도 참..

[@secret_lover32]

팩트를 악플로 매도하는 네가 ㅉ ㅋㅋㅋ​@@nerds5006

[@MEOOOF]

@@nerds5006 이게 어떻게 악플이냐...ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@initiativegoo6167]

비판이랑 비평이랑 헷갈리는 사람들이많아요 ㅋㅋㅋ 댓글이 아쉽다는 거지 저게 어케 악플로 보이냐 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@꿀맛주먹]

영화기때문에 더 많은 컷 촬영을 할수있고 편집으로 화면 전환도 할수있죠. 그리고 한 씬을 촬영하는데 더 많은 예산과 인력이 들어가고요. 영화에 너무 비교하면 어떤 뮤지컬도 즐기기 어려울 수 있으니 뮤지컬이 주는 생생한 배우들의 연기와 호흡에 더 집중하면 좋을 듯해요.

[@inluwetrust]

my biggest flex is knowing this song years before tiktok

[@megakewlbreez8537]

Yup!

[@AxoPearlEdits]

heck ye >:)

[@Wire-r9j]

Same x) i knew it with old hazbin hotel vid vivzie made

[@ferguschase-g2w]

@@Wire-r9j Can you link it so i can watch it

[@mel9823]

Watching this as a kid it was just so exciting to see this movie and hearing the music but watching it again as an adult, you see so much you didn’t before! Like when they all started to say “oh yes!” It’s like you can feel the manipulation sinking in but it’s so beautiful to look at you don’t even realize it. This has always been my favorite movie. I never knew people who loved it as much as me. I’m glad to see that all these years later it’s getting the love it deserves 😭🤍

[@lcw325]

와 복화술 덜해도 록시인형연기에 눈이 쏠리네 대박이다 진짜 인형같음

[@youngminlee2018]

연기가 너무 좋으니깐 복화술을 잘하든지 못하든지 크게 상관없는 씬이라는 생각이 드네 시선이 복화술 잘하는지에 가는순간 이미 불완전한거인듯

[@ddengque6324]

사실 복화술을 너무 잘해서 티가 안 나도 별로일 거 같은 장면이라고 생각이 들어요. 빌리가 록시가 할 말을 뒤에서 다 정해준거라는 느낌을 드러내는게 핵심이니까요

[@김현윤-e5v]

복화술 하기전 밑밥 깔아주는 멘트가 있으니 당연한거 아닐까요

[@shiteyanyo1111]

"This scene won an oscar" as it should have

[@GOwen-vo4xs]

Except 'this scene' didn't win an Oscar. The movie won Best Picture but there was no Oscar specifically for this scene.

[@rodvaz1]

​@@GOwen-vo4xsWell, this scene is a good exhibit of how masterful are the editing, costume design and sound mixing in this movie, which won Oscars for all these.

[@satchelsatchel]

@@rodvaz1 You have stated facts. But you seem to be defending this video's title, and its title is indefensible. To say that this scene won an Oscar is ignorant at best, and is most probably intentional exploitative deception, which is essentially an act of criminal fraud. If your response to that is "don't take it so seriously" then you need to understand that to tolerate acts of bad faith is to compromise our social contract-apathy is the means of the triumph of evil.

[@impogame]

anyone here because of the insane and amazing tiktok edits?

[@Winstar_Animations]

Me! I was here because of the squid game edit

[@xuinia1]

​@@Winstar_Animations same

[@SOMEONETEX]

I’m here from an emesis blue edit

[@RomanDiaries]

Bruh, link some

[@Lymade1112]

​@@SOMEONETEXReal

[@cagey1415]

The dancers at 3:09 is so good

[@BriBri-x7e]

Real

[@Jade_s2]

all well energized and in sync

[@jtiumproductions7629]

2:03 I live how this is the only part where we see her actually see the words. Because this part is 100% her own thoughts, and he even pulls her pack as puppet like “nope why did you say that”

[@user-fx3lr8hb3o]

기레기 역할 맡으신 분도 진짜 꼭두각시 인형처럼 춤추네… 모든 것이 완벽한 씬이다

[@YUNHA-d5i]

진짜 꼭두각시 인형들처럼 까딱까닥대는 연출도 좋고 진짜 꼭두각시들처럼 분장한 것도 좋음 그 와중에 제일 말 잘 들어주는 메리 선샤인 혼자만 평범한 인간처럼 분장 안하고 연기하는것도 좋네요

[@dunetiger]

I saw the stage show in Toronto and Billy was played by Alan Thicke, of all people (RIP). He was so good I could never get behind Gere's voice even though he did fine. He was just missing that low, smooth tone. But this scene is so well directed and edited together to provide the song more context. A well-deserved award.

[@homelesshannah50]

Gere is far better than Alan Prick