Why is autism more common in males - Simon Baron-Cohen

Simon Baron-Cohen's keynote at the DCP CYPF faculty conference, September 2014 in Peterborough.

[@paradoxofepicurus]

Shit those 'S' are killing me. He's almost whistling.

[@TheBaconWizard]

The sound guy at the event or the uploader could have dine something about that.

[@GandalfTheGay98]

Like Herbert the Pervert

[@Waltham1892]

Having seen that nerve cells from Autistic individuals have more connections than controls and the brains of autistics tend to be heavier brains than those who don't carry the diagnosis, I've always wondered if brains exhibiting Autism haven't undergone the "pruning" we see in developing brains. That might explain the childlike repetitive behaviors of the autistic and their greater response to sensory stimuli...

[@jacobslouka]

I too have wondered about the pruning (apoptosis) and effects of critical periods on social devo.

[@jay_motocombat]

I kept waiting for him to switch to the Borat accent

[@bravulo]

His cousin

[@presidentatabaki]

Is it only me or other have same feeling? Simon seems himself to be on spectrum with monolithic talk.

[@Ignasimp]

Monolithic as in monotone? Or what do you mean exactly?

[@dianalee1589]

i do not like him he seems very regimented and for an expert he should already know it is different in females so should not be more common i would say if you are not british then all british people as a culture have autism , it is an autistic culture

[@rdrpro69]

Have you met his brother?

[@presidentatabaki]

@@rdrpro69 I just know his cousin.

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

@@dianalee1589 Interesting. I once read a comment by a German who thought that Germany was an "autistic" country. I think you could say the same for much of Northern Europe tbh esp Scandinavia. Even though the term and the man have been discredited, it's no surprise that Mr Asperger was Teutonic.

[@ddkdkdkdkdkdk1]

Thank goodness for science like this

[@cheeesysandwich]

this guy is viewed as controversial in the field of autism cause his theories are considered to be bogus

[@D4n1t0o]

I'm so grateful Simon seems similarly disgusted by Aspergers Erausre.

[@Peter-wq3fw]

Extremely interesting! I'm a 60 year old gay Asperger male and I'm not only fascinated by scientific ‘material’ patterns but I’m also drawn to analyze patterns in human emotion and behavior. The latter irritates me tremendously by the way. I actually consider it a curse.

[@petekdemircioglu]

Are you also drawn to those patterns in your romantic interests?

[@Peter-wq3fw]

@@petekdemircioglu I'm afraid so. I am romatically involved with another Asperger but he's mainly interested in architecture and modern art (instead of human behavior) so we sort of balance eachother out. And we live apart, which gives us both enough alone-time.

[@stanleytolle416]

What you might see more of in women is non-launguag learning disability in women. I have autistic traits and a female friend with NLLD. It seems to me this disablity would be a female track that autism may take. I had delay in talking, good spacial skills but poor coordination and social skills. My friend had precocious language skills but deficits in spatial skills and structure thinking. Actually more complicated than that but there appeared to be a shift in female trates to the point of disability. What I found interesting is my friend did not have problems in early schooling like I did but started having trouble later in schooling when more thought was needed in assignments. Solving problems and getting higher level concepts would excape her. So if this is how autism is expressed more often in females then females often would not be noticed as having problems in the early grades and may simply thought of kind of a dingbat in later schooling but not thought of as having a disability. I think this might be part of the discrepancies between male and female having autism it that it might be displaying differently in the sexes.

[@LJ-dr6xrtdrt6d6]

@@stanleytolle416 there is some gender difference in spatial skills, and this can be impacted by several conditions.

[@ChristianFrates1997]

I’m a 26 year old autistic man and this is interesting!

[@majdavlk649]

Is that intro music supposed to give us meltdown? its really anticomfortable hearing sounds in just 1 ear and alternating between them

[@melissaromero1829]

Yes, it almost does to me.

[@darmok072]

Works better with weed.

[@tc59932]

Personally, I found it to be quite relaxing, despite my overactive senses.

[@LinDa-vx3ly]

There’s always going to be an autistic person that had a meltdown over something… if you don’t want to risk getting one, go live on Mars. 💀

[@mephista55]

un·com·fort·a·ble

[@LJ-dr6xrtdrt6d6]

I have Asperger's. I cried when I saw this. This guy really gets how my brain works.

[@gaylebaker8419]

I love the "find the cube" picture. That's not a cube. It's a rectangular prism.

[@7654jake]

which is a cuboid and a cube is a type of cuboid

[@gaylebaker8419]

@@7654jake Deadly nightshade and potatoes are both Solanaceae. Which would you choose to eat?

[@7654jake]

@@gaylebaker8419 Edibility is irrelivant and subjective. The generalisation of a shape has nothing to do with its edibility. Potatoes and nightshades are the same in some regard. I don't see your point with edibility

[@gaylebaker8419]

@@7654jake That's apparent.

[@heh2k]

Don't the males of some primate species consider eye contact to be a threat? Very interesting that testosterone reduces eye contact.

[@pamtufnell6751]

I was sent for a hearing test because I didn't recognise my name :(

[@akivaragen]

Unbelievable. So interesting. Thank you.

[@chacmool2581]

26:48 That jolt in the womb for boys is quite large, more than twice, if the y-axis scale is correct, than that which triggers puberty. Now, if we look at it in terms of amount relative to the size of the body or the brain, the difference is astronomical.

[@michelleskigen1957]

It is because the first researchers to describe the externally observable differences between schizophrenia and autism did so using a pre-teen or teen male sample set. Since girls express the challenges differently, they don't "fit the mold" of boy-behavior.

[@Wolcik3000]

are you saying that woman have autism wrong?

[@RayneBubble.]

@@Wolcik3000 ~ it presents differently in women

[@Wolcik3000]

@@RayneBubble. Autism is diagnosed based on symptoms , which would mean that girls with different symptoms should just get a different diagnosis with new name The same way testicular and fallopian tube cancer are unique to their sexes

[@HkFinn83]

You seriously believe the worlds leading experts on a condition are all utterly wrong, and two sentences about vague sexism are all a person needs to know?

[@camellia8625]

I agree. That applies across other conditions as well. There is a history of women not uncommonly being excluded in medical research trials resulting in their needs being overlooked.

[@BadgerBotherer1]

Why is waffling-windbaggery more common in females?

[@SimonSverige]

ROFL

[@fionagregory8078]

do not be rude!

[@Shhehwhsi24]

😂😂😂😂

[@blackswan4486]

It’s not. You’re just a misogynist. You’d listen to the same amount of speech in a man and call it nothing.

[@BadgerBotherer1]

@@fionagregory8078 Sorry. Just a bit of banter!

[@pamtufnell6751]

I definitely had high testosterone

[@pamtufnell6751]

I played with cars and garages and cowboy and Indian figures with my brother

[@mephista55]

Thank you

[@lester_ernesto]

If hormones are an important driver of this condition , what about homosexuality or bisexuality behavior within the sample ? Any studies about it ?

[@CATANOVA]

8:30 Can a baby see any detail at day 1

[@wernerdutler4107]

Would be very helpful !! to see the slides he is describing.....otherwise great!

[@camellia8625]

The slides were very clearly shown

[@blackcitroenlove]

Because one mutation that causes it is on the Y chromosome, duh. Other types are on non-sex-related chromosomes. Mine is on 14.

[@gratefulkm]

Autism is simply at its root a Activated Amygdala

[@sarahb.6475]

I noticed on the one chart shown that cortisol the stress hormone was on one side and the male hormone was on the other side: is there any relationship between the two?? That is does high stress in the mother during the pregnancy produce the high male hormone in any way in the fetus??

[@mortyblink8355]

Women are grossly underdiagnosed, the whole idea is flawed.

[@BC-th3mx]

We observe that men outnumber women among non-speakers, you can't "mask" nonverbal autism, so why should the numbers be equal for verbal autism, which used to be thought to have an even higher ratio of M:F? Or even close to it

[@mortyblink8355]

@@BC-th3mx used to be thought.. is still prevalent. without accessible diagnostics clear of undiagnosed autististic "professionals" like Tony Attwood, no serious research can come up with rational statistics. It' s more a political issue with useful morons staging "the facts"

[@sanyo8440]

Who gives. Males are more impacted since they are already at a disadvantage socially even as neurotypicals in todays day and age. Let alone the autistic males that just dont get it. I will NEVER shut up about this point, it is way more damaging and harder on the MALE sex! Women almost always have outlets and support systems men can only dream of, especially autistic males that have felt worthless their entire lives. Its a cruel tragedy that, as always, women seem to be the most affected. Its disgusting that they also overshadow the KZbin search algorithms with their performative "look at how quirky i am checklist" bullshit that is just anotherr grift for their pathetic need to be the center of attention all the damn time. They overshadow the actual good MALE content creators that are way more relatable. Girl power my ass. I wish they would all eff off to some desginated hen island and leave us at peace.

[@KarynZlatkovic]

It’s amazing how many people comment without watching - its been mistitled. It should be called hormone differences in autism

[@KarynZlatkovic]

@47:25 he literally says that 😂

[@thomasdk19851]

BRILLIANT :)

[@DavidCoulson]

I hope the cameraman was sacked... I'd quite like to have seen those graphs...

[@1bol1]

Oh fuck I found the shape in like 7 seconds. Guess I'm autistic now REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@turtleanton6539]

Yuup😅😅😅😅

[@turtleanton6539]

It is not

[@smorrow]

21:10 I would say that's skewed rather than shifted.

[@smorrow]

^ MFW I failed the children's version of the eye test.

[@turtleanton6539]

Is it ,

[@cleniification]

whats the name of the song used for the intro?? its sooo cool

[@bens5496]

😂

[@ikvangalen6101]

Why is food, (electrical )radiation and microplastics and PFAS not included in the origin of autism?? I read that it can only be inheritive for up to 10% … Seriously interested in this! Thank you for your presentation.

[@jamesespinosa690]

Likely because it's nearly impossible to create sound control groups in order to properly study those factors.

[@ikvangalen6101]

Yes, it’s, refined….

[@markharris1223]

The opening "music" is extremely irksome.

[@KarynZlatkovic]

Where are the slides?

[@pamtufnell6751]

I was rubbish at cooking and needlework did much better in metal and wood work

[@pamtufnell6751]

Do you have it Simon ?

[@merryhunt9153]

This would probably be interesting if I could understand it. How ironic that a social scientist speaks in a fast, low, indistinct manner with almost no body language. Get a voice coach.

[@pamtufnell6751]

Can I ask a question why would a doctor laugh when I explained I have to write things down because of my bad short term memory due to Asperger's ? The doctor was a man perhaps he was Aspie

[@dianalee1589]

I did not listen to the talk but the title is stupid , if this expert does not know that autism is different in females therefore one cant say it is more common in males

[@ulpetzmaznat1366]

seriously..... you are commenting on the title to say he's wrong without listening to what he's said. Jesus Christ. This man is the authority on autism as we currently understand it. If you know anything about autism it is likely because of his work. He has devoted his entire life to it and this is well known. Autism is under-diagnosed in females, but the 4:1 ratio is too great to account for missed diagnoses. Autism is more prevalent in males by a wide margin.

[@jamesespinosa690]

If "it's different in females". Then it isn't Autism is it dummy?????

[@valerieblackwell5765]

My man, autism is not "different" in females. Autism is an umbrella of behaviors, turns out males tend to exhibit these behaviors more often. Autism still exists in females, but females dont statistically present behaviors that is thay of autists.

[@BC-th3mx]

Of course men outnumber women in autism, as we observe that men outnumber women among non-speakers. You can't "mask" nonverbal autism, that totally dispels this myth that the numbers should be equal, or even close, which they're not

[@msimmons5850]

It's not different in females. They present the same symptoms as males and if they don't, they aren't autistic.

[@pamtufnell6751]

Also William Morris was definitely Aspie wasn't he ?

[@Luk4zguy97]

Man had to figure out his brother

[@alvastone1211]

If you’re referring to Sacha Baron-Cohen, he is not Simon’s brother. They are cousins.

[@practicalapplications8899]

The video subject matter for this channel are a bombardment of foolish Tom foolery. This video is good though.

[@rhomboidman]

How are these hormone studies ethical in animals???

[@fauxmaux]

Because it’s not.👠

[@KarynZlatkovic]

@25:30 he says we can disregard sex/gender and look at prenatal hormone levels

[@theautisticpage]

45 minutes to explain he is a misogynist.

[@ElanMorin]

quite possibly the dumbest take I've heard on anything in a long while.

[@DanielBrice7f58a6]

are we seriously still listening to this guy? wtf?

[@ElanMorin]

why wouldn't we? he's one of the world's foremost experts in autism.

[@DanielBrice7f58a6]

@@ElanMorin one of the world's foremost experts on misogyny -_-

[@hisnibs1121]

​@@DanielBrice7f58a6 Your prejudices are getting in the way of your thinking. Open your mind and listen to what he actually says. Can you give a single example of him saying (or doing) anything misogynistic?

[@metalmechanic6664]

I want to listen to this so bad but the amount of whistling he does when he says "S" sounds is driving me insane