Bragden Full Documentary WTTC Dortmund 1989 Waldner, Appelgren, Persson

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M Tordas

M Tordas

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@shishir1969
@shishir1969 3 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing work of art. A piece of history. One of the finest sports documentaries ever. I cannot thank you enough Mr Tordas. Grateful.
@glenngastonjonsson7954
@glenngastonjonsson7954 Жыл бұрын
Amazing documentary. Love and respect to China for inviting these youngsters to improve within their system. As a Swede, I loved those years.
@ecke9635
@ecke9635 3 жыл бұрын
Förmodligen den bästa videon på KZbin.
@SprakleYarn-gm6tl
@SprakleYarn-gm6tl 3 ай бұрын
nej nej nej
@formulapak
@formulapak 8 жыл бұрын
I am a Chinese and I don't think it is good for the sport to be dominated by single country. Thanks for this great video & hope that Sweden TT team will be strong again!
@natjes6017
@natjes6017 3 жыл бұрын
Sweden are strong again right now 😁😁😁
@dakapo8985
@dakapo8985 3 жыл бұрын
@@natjes6017 Tänkte precis skriva samma :). Our engine has started. Lets see were it takes us.
@petertordjunehag1055
@petertordjunehag1055 7 ай бұрын
They looked at reality as it was, made the proper analysis, and then trained to get it. This is what most people wont do. They did it, and its one of the most insane gold medals in the history of sports, period. 1989, Sweden, table tennis. Impossible is possible.
@RalphHund
@RalphHund 3 ай бұрын
Really good now. Not China level, but really good.
@gunnarlarsson7885
@gunnarlarsson7885 3 ай бұрын
We are back! It was such pure joy watching the Olympic teams final. Back to how it is supposed to be :-D 2028 will be the new 1989 :-)
@MarioLuniAlva
@MarioLuniAlva 2 жыл бұрын
I was 13 years of age, as I watch this on german TV. 📺 I love playing Table Tennis and I worship Jan - Ove Waldner, the Greatest of all Times. This awesome victory against China 🏓 I will never forget. 🙂 It's great that Sweden has new talented Players like Truls Möregard, he is surely the Future of European Table Tennis...but noone will ever reach to the one and only, the living Legend of this amazing sport: Jan - Ove Waldner!
@tommylarsson2025
@tommylarsson2025 8 ай бұрын
Watch up for the French brothers!!
@rogeraxarp2468
@rogeraxarp2468 9 ай бұрын
Ståpäls varenda gång jag tittar på den här videon. Vilka fantastiska idrottare.
@robinragnarsson9480
@robinragnarsson9480 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Chinese tabletennis should have big props for taking the swedish players under their wings and showing them and the coaches so much from how they train, live and breath table tennis. Without it we would never have seen any of this happening. Fantastic documentary!
@Monster-gr8on
@Monster-gr8on Жыл бұрын
So many great players ended up in the same team was amazing and once in a lifetime
@johanf9279
@johanf9279 Жыл бұрын
Happened also in Tennis.
@ExpatMoe
@ExpatMoe 10 жыл бұрын
"Sweden had 10 full-time ping pong players. China had 2 million". Lol
@lchef8814
@lchef8814 4 жыл бұрын
Den mest legendariska videon må jag säga blir fascinerad varje gång jag skådar denna! Mvh Phillê
@ecke9635
@ecke9635 3 жыл бұрын
Sannerligen! Topp klass!
@mhmisc65
@mhmisc65 5 жыл бұрын
Detta kommer jag aldrig sluta se.
@hangemhigh7069
@hangemhigh7069 2 жыл бұрын
Det bästa sportminnet i hela mitt liv!👍❤🇸🇪
@filosofen
@filosofen 12 жыл бұрын
Jag är fullständigt totalt ointresserad av sport, men den här dokunebtären var intressant och spännande. Rekommenderas varmt.
@tommylarsson2025
@tommylarsson2025 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this documentary! I loved every minute of it!
@scottbaker-ScottyB
@scottbaker-ScottyB 2 жыл бұрын
In 1982 Largo Fl. I played Jonas Berner who had the best serves and backhand in Europe I had read. I learned the high toss serve from him and regluing TT rubber made huge advances in rubber performance which I did not get into. I used Yasaka Tornado rubber the best I thought at the time. Nice film documentary brings back memories. Thank you.
@thomassjonnebring
@thomassjonnebring Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Love from Sweden/ Scandinavia!
@robertobarcelos4798
@robertobarcelos4798 Жыл бұрын
Acompanhei esta geração de gênios. Parabéns...
@camstudios1624
@camstudios1624 11 жыл бұрын
Jag Älskar Den Här Dokumentären. Den Är Helt Klart Bäst. Svenska bordtennis Förbundet:Kalle Andreasson
@tallvagornashus
@tallvagornashus 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentry!
@Ionesboule
@Ionesboule 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, that's a really inspiring story
@ONEDEADLYVENOM
@ONEDEADLYVENOM 9 жыл бұрын
That was such an inspiring story of overcoming a giant obstacle. Hats of to the Swedish team and team China. I admire the rivalry, except that foul serve by the then Chinese champ:-/ This should be made into a real movie
@EdenZq
@EdenZq 9 жыл бұрын
i still remember watching games between Swe and Chn around 1990 as a small kid. I really missed the SWE team at that time. Table tennis team matches will be of more fun if China has a real competitor.
@1994leman
@1994leman 12 жыл бұрын
The best European Players of all time :)
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 2 жыл бұрын
Sweden could compete with China as we were fortunate to have at least 6 great players for a long time, dont forget Ulf Bengtsson & Carlsson + Erik Lind+Peter Karlsson +Tomas von Scheele. That rivalry sharped the three more famous ones (Waldner, Jorgen och Appelgren).
@olaniyi570
@olaniyi570 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the translation.
@lars-eriklarsson395
@lars-eriklarsson395 5 жыл бұрын
I still remember this day,when sweden won this final after a brilliant game
@liebestraumer
@liebestraumer 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@filipboholm6854
@filipboholm6854 Жыл бұрын
This comment by Glen Östh 1:36 "Vi pratar om tio heltids spelare i Sverige, dom (China) har två miljoner" is not in the subtitles. It means "We talk about having 10 fulltime players in Sweden, they (China) have two million". Let that sink in...
@Gammaskalle
@Gammaskalle 4 жыл бұрын
Körde vansinnigt mycket pingis som barn på dansbanan på Knarrholmen.. Brukade pracca mot en 76åring som va helt galet bra (Gunnar från 33:an ? :S). Lillebroshan och alla andra ungarna på ön med.. good times.
@TheQuickest
@TheQuickest 11 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this with full subtitles.
@cloudsmiles1
@cloudsmiles1 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know if there are some parts you want to be translated (I'm swedish)
@christianwhite9583
@christianwhite9583 10 жыл бұрын
Watching Sweden finally break China domination in World Table Tennis is the reason I started playing TT. I remember in the late 80's watching training video of Waldner and Persson. I think it will be a benefit to China & Table Tennis to have another true competitor otherwise it will be as interesting as when Michael Shumacher kept winning in Ferrari- boring!
@hokeekeng2166
@hokeekeng2166 Жыл бұрын
don't think it is Sweden break any domination but they after dictate the game for generations to come.
@kdgr
@kdgr 9 жыл бұрын
Cool! A real TT historie.
@lockwyn
@lockwyn 11 жыл бұрын
Great documentary
@klabbro
@klabbro 10 жыл бұрын
"Den idrottsprestation ni har utfört den slår nog alla de andra inklusive Carola" -Mona Sahlin 55:55
@danielsvensson3611
@danielsvensson3611 7 жыл бұрын
Thid is the national sport of a billion people(!!!!!)...
@JacobSandberg
@JacobSandberg 3 ай бұрын
Total inspiration
@titosarmiento8333
@titosarmiento8333 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful video i were trying to find out for years to unravel from swedish team itself to solve the fast flat short pin close to the table game of the Chinese how the topspin both back fore gave headache to the Chinese.
@lastxp
@lastxp 10 ай бұрын
After Jiang lost to Appelgren the chinese team was severely demoralised, they were well softened.
@gunnarlarsson7885
@gunnarlarsson7885 3 жыл бұрын
Då är man här och drömmer :-)
@monanicka
@monanicka Жыл бұрын
Whos dominating TT now ? (2023) :)
@Izraphel
@Izraphel 11 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for the first 40 minutes, but could you please make captions for the last 20 too? :(
@DinoSvanhvit
@DinoSvanhvit Жыл бұрын
Mäktigt.👏
@jeffreygoines533
@jeffreygoines533 Жыл бұрын
Amazing docu !!!
@oliver0615
@oliver0615 8 жыл бұрын
This is waldner
@bOOmcORNErsHOt1
@bOOmcORNErsHOt1 12 жыл бұрын
Come on make this a really special video with TRANSLATION..
@domican100
@domican100 12 жыл бұрын
With english susbtitles for my poor ignorant monolinguistic ass, this would be perhaps the most epic TT vid on you tube :(
@dinosourmekad
@dinosourmekad 2 жыл бұрын
For Sweden the match against S. Korea was more difficult. S. Korea had an olympic champion and olympic silver medalist in the sqaud.
@TheChristiV
@TheChristiV 11 жыл бұрын
CaptionTube can help you to assign subtitle. Thank you for the movie.
@gdounito
@gdounito 10 жыл бұрын
name of song @ 52:37 anyone? its a fantastic melody
@nicklasandersson690
@nicklasandersson690 2 жыл бұрын
Imo the win 2000 was a even bigger archivement😊
@polskagranica
@polskagranica 12 жыл бұрын
legends
@handendaer
@handendaer Жыл бұрын
"stod i tidnigen, då måste det va sant".. ja jävlar... men bra pingisspelare är han!
@luf4rall
@luf4rall 11 жыл бұрын
36:10 is hilarious.
@Izraphel
@Izraphel 11 жыл бұрын
can somebody make english captions for the last 20 minutes? please?
@jaime2658780
@jaime2658780 12 жыл бұрын
Some translation into english under the title of description of this video would be highly appreciated =)
@stalvio007
@stalvio007 12 жыл бұрын
i didn't understand anything , but it was really interesting to watch)
@johanf9279
@johanf9279 Жыл бұрын
There is subtitles. Click on square shaped icon.
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 10 жыл бұрын
I am sorry that the great match in 2000 by Waldner and Persson won again versus China is not even mentioned.
@mhmisc65
@mhmisc65 5 жыл бұрын
In a sense even surpassing the 1989 achievement.
@ylong5697
@ylong5697 2 жыл бұрын
Because Sweden's victory in 1989 was systematic winning, I mean Sweden had most advanced technique in 1989, while their victory in 2000 was about personal strength.
@dickn.ormous1064
@dickn.ormous1064 2 жыл бұрын
The 1989 victory was the beginning of the European TT era whereas in 2000 it was like the Twilight of the Gods.Sweden had only 1,5 top players(Waldner old and exhausted,Persson having a career revival after more than six years of struggling with injuries,Karlsson always injured) whereas in 1989 they had 3,5 top players. On top of that the European field looked bleak with the only top player since the Gatien/Primorac/Saive/Rosskopf generation being Samsonov who couldn't deliver after 1997.
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 2 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 It is the first time ever that players who were defeated by a new generation players (Jiang et al long gone) came back and won against the even next generation (!). It shows how good Waldner/Persson were. The team that lost in 1995 won in 2000 with the same players(Sweden) but against a new generation better players (China), name one loss the be fair and mention the win as well should have been done in the documentary. That was my point. That Karlsson was less good is known, however still ETTC champ in singles 2000 and Waldner played well in the olympics the same year. It was Perssons show though.
@atairuy
@atairuy 11 жыл бұрын
There is no subtitles in the whole video
@andreialexandruparfeni7129
@andreialexandruparfeni7129 8 жыл бұрын
"CC"
@alexanderturpin4783
@alexanderturpin4783 12 жыл бұрын
"Försöker bara ignorera han och tar upp en banan och börjar käka lite grann..." 50:11
@larsvontrierpung9337
@larsvontrierpung9337 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@PatrikAlexandersson-o5s
@PatrikAlexandersson-o5s Жыл бұрын
bör visas på skolor ,dagis ,fritidsgårdar och på tv
@puttemacguff7666
@puttemacguff7666 9 жыл бұрын
Ryser :)
@GABESZ881000
@GABESZ881000 8 ай бұрын
Already in the introductory part, the statements are not true. Before the Swedes, the Hungarians conquered the Chinese. In 1979
@TheOlzee
@TheOlzee 11 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth!! Although i really hope we can repeat this standard in the future and once again challenge the chinese.
@poorknight123
@poorknight123 11 жыл бұрын
Wow pretty engrossing. Would have been great to have had subtitles for the final 10min but great job anyway
@goranfalk7766
@goranfalk7766 3 ай бұрын
Vilka lirare vi har i Sverige 😊
@kajakmannen1666
@kajakmannen1666 3 жыл бұрын
54:54 10st "lixom" levererat i blixttempo! :)
@Izraphel
@Izraphel 12 жыл бұрын
english subtitles anywhere?
@johanf9279
@johanf9279 Жыл бұрын
Yes, click on square shaped icon.
@carpetclimber4027
@carpetclimber4027 6 жыл бұрын
The tournament leaders were so weak in 1989, game 4. So what that Jialiang was ranked #1? He should've been warned, then lost a set as penalty and the ejected and disqualified if he continued to refuse to play. Switching refs because Jialiang turned into a child was so wrong. If Jialiang wanted to bring shame to the sport and his country, that was his own choice.
@maxskogh6289
@maxskogh6289 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda still same nowadays. Norwegians have too much say in skicross, Italians in F1, Canada in curling and so on and so on.
@ylong5697
@ylong5697 2 жыл бұрын
The interesting point is Jiang's coach was the one who tried the stop him while the committee supported Jiang.
@daydreameravani
@daydreameravani 10 жыл бұрын
No subtitles? I really want to know what exactly happened about the controversial serving foul by Jiang Jialiang and what the Swedish players though about that?
@ichiroakuma7311
@ichiroakuma7311 10 жыл бұрын
There are subtitles: just click on "CC" in the bar at the bottom.
@hello520111
@hello520111 Жыл бұрын
wal is 100000% better than any chinese players for respect.
@hangemhigh7069
@hangemhigh7069 Жыл бұрын
Tror jag sett denna kommuntären 3 GÅNGER! MYCKET STÖRRE ÄN HOCKEY GULD!
@petertordjunehag1055
@petertordjunehag1055 7 ай бұрын
Only Zlatan and Stenmark match this
@yongdeng1813
@yongdeng1813 2 жыл бұрын
It will be decades before the swedish can recapture their past glory…nontheless, it was a great rivalry between china and sweden in those years.
@lowelindroth7053
@lowelindroth7053 3 ай бұрын
It didnt take that long….
@yongdeng1813
@yongdeng1813 3 ай бұрын
@@lowelindroth7053 u really think in the world TT championship where more players are allowed to participate from each country that this Swedish kid would make it to the finals!?!? If china can send 4 players to compete in Olympic, it will be all Chinese finals as the last 20 years. If u think that then I can’t talk TT with you,but of course u are free to think however you want. 🤷
@lowelindroth7053
@lowelindroth7053 3 ай бұрын
@@yongdeng1813 you dont seem to have a clue. Sweden were in the mens final in both the 2019 and 21 World cup. And won the doubles title in the 2021 WC
@yongdeng1813
@yongdeng1813 3 ай бұрын
@@lowelindroth7053 you the one who is clueless. Falck just got there 4 years ago and M.I.A since he aiant no threat and will never be a threat, again. As far as truls is concern, consider himself lucky because wang wasnt using his normal racket. He cant even beat the japanese kid if they have met before the finals, we shall see how far truls gets in 2025 world TT championship.
@rafaelshigemura
@rafaelshigemura 8 ай бұрын
Right after 2024 teams WTTC, again dominated by China, we stay looking forward for the next sweden!!!
@mrmojorisin2595
@mrmojorisin2595 2 жыл бұрын
Mikael "liksom" Appelgren
@PersecutedCitizen
@PersecutedCitizen 11 жыл бұрын
Waldner playing Chinese penhold at 9:05 lol.
@user-tt3vp1uw6o
@user-tt3vp1uw6o 2 жыл бұрын
11:38 hahaha idolkort med nål i ögat
@tjingelinget
@tjingelinget 2 жыл бұрын
China really lost table tennis for good this year
@jarekjankowski8912
@jarekjankowski8912 11 жыл бұрын
Nb
@epicbros-tankionline7406
@epicbros-tankionline7406 9 жыл бұрын
Fuk det sheiit!
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