Smartphone vs. Real Meters for Sound and Light Measurement?

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Brainiac75

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Are there inexpensive alternatives to light and sound meters? How about a multimeter that will measure both lux and decibels? Or what about your smartphone? In this video, I will test if they are any good...
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@hudibaba
@hudibaba Жыл бұрын
yes please make one one for the magnetic sensor
@MrManatres
@MrManatres Жыл бұрын
In my country, argentina, I had seen some "qualified" technicians evaluate MRI installations only with the magnetic sensor on the phone hahaha
@Random_4400
@Random_4400 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@franciscoj.a.5294
@franciscoj.a.5294 Жыл бұрын
@@MrManatres joderme, me imagino que no de dalde
@HighVoltageMadness
@HighVoltageMadness Жыл бұрын
@@MrManatres lol
@MrManatres
@MrManatres Жыл бұрын
@@franciscoj.a.5294 no me acuerdo el nombre del señor, pero son de radiofisica los que van a evaluar que las lineas de gauss no lleguen a las salas de espera en las clinicas o sectores asi
@LookingGlassUniverse
@LookingGlassUniverse Жыл бұрын
I find these side-by-side comparisons you do very helpful- the results are so surprising! Thank you for doing them, and I'd love to see more
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it. Guess there is some consumer information value for videos like this. Will have to try the magnetic sensors too :)
@m80116
@m80116 Жыл бұрын
The trouble with dB meter apps I tried is that by default they all show different levels. I already had the app shown in the video before and was considering it as one of the most accurate (with no calibration). Probably despite the limited functionality the MM sound meter function might still be more reliable than apps which rely on internal hardware (fine if you have top smartphones, far less if you have 2nd and 3rd tier devices).
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 Жыл бұрын
@@brainiac75 what app is this? Im not sure if it was mentioned and i missed it. I want to roughly measure the brightness of a flashlight i have but have nothing to measure with. It doesnt make sense for me to guy a meter for this one off thing
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox Жыл бұрын
It should be noted however that the smartphone will do horribly with certain sounds. It's hard to describe accurately because i'm not entirely sure what frequencies this is happening at. I have never been able to catch it when carrying a proper sound meter. Quite annoying as it's quite common to run into these sounds at random times. If anyone has more details on these "difficult to record sounds" I would like to learn more about them.
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 11 ай бұрын
my subwoofer dual 18inch plays at of the level of 138db ngl@@brainiac75
@daringd3lta574
@daringd3lta574 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the smartphone compared to a real gaussmeter! That would be awesome!
@Eneicia2011
@Eneicia2011 Жыл бұрын
Right???
@jennalove6755
@jennalove6755 Жыл бұрын
uhh technically they have one in them because of the digital compass
@daringd3lta574
@daringd3lta574 Жыл бұрын
@@jennalove6755 Yes
@Ryan_Smyth
@Ryan_Smyth Жыл бұрын
LOL! I was just thinking that! I have a 5% Gauss meter (the price difference for a 1% Gauss meter just isn't justifiable for hobbyists like me - they're crazy expensive) so I may just give it a shot & try. And God knows I have enough magnets! I spend way too much money on them. :D
@sashabagdasarow497
@sashabagdasarow497 Жыл бұрын
@@Ryan_Smyth have you tried it?
@Yossus
@Yossus Жыл бұрын
In my Physics lessons, I occasionally use the phyphox app, which lets you capture the raw output of all the phone's sensors. It's quite amazing how accurate they can be, and definitely enough for schoolwork! I've had good experiences with the magnet sensors as well.
@ziginox
@ziginox Жыл бұрын
+1 for phyphox!
@TheSwaroopB
@TheSwaroopB Жыл бұрын
phyphox FTW!
@CrooningRevival365
@CrooningRevival365 Жыл бұрын
I always pull out that app when I’m in a tall elevator:p
@Cyberfly100
@Cyberfly100 Жыл бұрын
+1 for phyphox! Check how the pressure changes by just moving the phone a few meters up or down. Or use the pressure sensor on an airplane to detect when the toilet is flushed. The accelerometer or noise spectrum analyzer can tell you the frequency of vibrations in your 3d printer. Great app.
@dvdcd
@dvdcd Жыл бұрын
As a live audio engineer, having a spectrum analysis and SPL on your phone if you don't have anything else has seriously saved my butt a couple of times
@TheSwaroopB
@TheSwaroopB Жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant video!! Thanks for comparing. For anyone looking for the apps used in the video: Lux Light Meter Photometer Pro Decibel X - Pro Sound Meter (Can't share Play Store links since the comments get auto-deleted)
@ashyouknow7420
@ashyouknow7420 Жыл бұрын
Thank you bro!! I was really searching for a comment like this. I literally searched "app" in the finder of the browser lol
@neilg322
@neilg322 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting, i have wondered about the sensitivity of smartphone sound apps, especially as a sound level meter and where they max out, at concerts etc. A magnetic flux test would be good to see too.
@CnCDune
@CnCDune Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see older phone models in similar tests if possible, not just current gen ones.
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
Will consider it. I have access to an S10+ and iPhone 7 too.
@CamcorderHomeVideos
@CamcorderHomeVideos Жыл бұрын
@@brainiac75 Do you prefer iPhone, Samsung, or Pixel?
@rebane2001
@rebane2001 Жыл бұрын
And a modern but very cheap phone would also be fun to throw into the test
@TeslaLiam
@TeslaLiam Жыл бұрын
@@brainiac75 Yes, very good idea. I don't think a test with 10 years old phones would matter. Most people have there phone no longer than 2-4 years.
@TeslaLiam
@TeslaLiam Жыл бұрын
@@rebane2001 Absolutely!
@theirisheditor
@theirisheditor Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the sound meters tested at different volume levels. The main issue I found testing different Apps is they vary a lot above around 90dB. Generally the only time I open a sound meter App is when I'm at a loud venue, etc.
@mindtraveller100
@mindtraveller100 Жыл бұрын
@@scorpioassmodeusgtx1811 Nothing beats a dedicated microphone.
@snowdaysrule
@snowdaysrule Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this one. I've been using the sensor capabilities of my smartphone lately and was wondering just how meaningful the output was.
@JoshuaPlays99
@JoshuaPlays99 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved testing the sensors in my phone and have wondered how accurate they really are. This video was great to see and I would definitely like to see a video on the magnetic sensor
@Guardian_Arias
@Guardian_Arias Жыл бұрын
The suite of sensor on some smartphones are absolutely amazing. I used to use the barometer on my old Galaxy S5 to help me troubleshoot Aircraft Cabin pressurization issues since the phone would often have a greater degree of accuracy than some older pure analog and pneumatic based pressurization systems.
@kartikahlawat413
@kartikahlawat413 Жыл бұрын
Yes I do wonder how good is the magnetometer on a cell phone and can only expect a detailed vedio from you............btw love watching your vedios ❤
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
Thanks - will need to find the limits of that sensor ;) More to come in 2023!
@CamcorderHomeVideos
@CamcorderHomeVideos Жыл бұрын
@@brainiac75 Yay!
@user-zv2gr3tu1l
@user-zv2gr3tu1l Жыл бұрын
@@brainiac75 excited
@CoherentPhoton
@CoherentPhoton Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison video. I wonder if it would be possible to "calibrate" some of these functions? If a smartphone app had an option for calibration and you had access to a high quality instrument to use as a calibration standard, that would be awesome! Please make a video for the magnetometer :)
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 Жыл бұрын
I do know that the pressure meter in a Samsung Galaxy is surprisingly sensitive, and the sensor menu is awesome. It can measure altitude changes of less than one meter based on atmospheric pressure, for instance, less than one pascal.
@usy-
@usy- Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Although I do believe you could have mentioned that the readings you obtained are accurate but only for your specific smartphone model (and maybe even unit!) and app used, as there can be great variance between smartphones and even the app used for the SPL reading, for example my phone shows about 10dB below my SPL meter at 1khz using the same app and same weighting, and as well as this the frequency response of the phones microphone is likely not flat, and therefore it wont measure all of the frequencies accurately. Oh and also, if you do want to perform this test on more phones, I have heard that the NIOSH app for iPhones is relatively "accurate", and ive checked my iphone 6s plus against my SPL meter and it was within a few decibels.
@Rararawr
@Rararawr Жыл бұрын
The phone was closer than I expected. I have the same app on my phone to play around with. Going to an incredibly loud concert tomorrow so it'll be fun to see roughly how loud it really is
@simonmikkelsen
@simonmikkelsen Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the app?
@Rararawr
@Rararawr Жыл бұрын
@@simonmikkelsen DecibelX
@guffyscotland9605
@guffyscotland9605 Жыл бұрын
You would not believe it but I was literally thinking about this a few hours ago! I got new headphones and know they're good to 106db (but obviously my ears aren't) and questioned if my phone would even be accurate enough to read that high reliably. Fantastic time to drop this video! EDIT: Just finished the video! I am absolutely astounded by the results, I cannot believe that the *very* multi-purpose smartphone held some level of competency in metering. Obviously I wouldn't trust my hearing or headphones with it, but the fact the range is so broad and remarkably accurate does give me confidence in knowing that I was actually being rather "scientific" in my methods where I relied on a specific Hz (tuning belts on a 3D printer) to get correct tension. This is a really valuable video!
@ronsku57
@ronsku57 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic!
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! I am still surprised by the end result...
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
Indeed! I had read about the accuracy of the light sensors in phones before when researching indoor gardening light measurements, and the tests I saw agreed with these results, for most uses the phone is just fine (with white light). I also learned how the proximity sensor worked!
@SQ-619
@SQ-619 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty lazy when I comes to writing comments, but wow, this really shocked me. A dedicated multimeter was actually beaten - in some categories - by a smartphone! Truly incredible. Great job my guy, I really learned a lot from you!
@mindtraveller100
@mindtraveller100 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing "dedicated" about a multimeter measuring light or sound...
@Redstoner
@Redstoner Жыл бұрын
Try the Photone app which uses the camera and a piece of paper to diffuse the light coming in
@chstoney
@chstoney Жыл бұрын
I was working in a laboratory with sound-measuring equipment (SQuadriga 4) and I did a comparison of one of these sound-measuring apps back then too. And I was really surprised by how close the measurements of the phone were to it.
@michel_dutch
@michel_dutch Жыл бұрын
Of course we would like a video that checks out its magnetic capabilities, would be awesome! Also, I'm curious if your chemical element collection has grown so that you could make another attraction/repelling video? Really liked that series too. Best wishes for 2023!
@vjay4297
@vjay4297 Жыл бұрын
Multimeter is calibrated for use in handheld position, and directing the microphone to speaker may have boosted the response as it may be designed/calibrated to sound coming from top side.
@audiogek
@audiogek Жыл бұрын
Not surprised, I expected the smartphone to do as good as the dedicated meters, within 1% at least. Because smartphones are basically everywhere, that means also in the hands of people with calibrated tools. And over the years a lot of apps got calibrated with those dedicated meters for a lot of phones.
@JGnLAU8OAWF6
@JGnLAU8OAWF6 Жыл бұрын
Most sensors are digital and probably factory calibrated to some extent.
@mindtraveller100
@mindtraveller100 Жыл бұрын
But any smartphone lacks a dedicated high quality microphone, and that means they´re useless measuring really loud volumes. 80 dB, or maybe 90, they can do. Above that, no...
@audiogek
@audiogek Жыл бұрын
@@mindtraveller100 True! Apps use to tell you that, but now that most apps are created for advertising money I'm guessing they don't do that anymore 😏
@mindtraveller100
@mindtraveller100 Жыл бұрын
@@audiogek I tried 5 or 6 apps before, all of them only measuring up to around 80 dB. Recently i bought a cheap, and i really mean cheap, spl measuring tool. It reached 118 dB when i placed it a few inches from my studio speakers. And the price? 12 euros (around 12 dollars). Downside, only measures dBA not dBC, so no bass measuring. But for the price, i can´t complain, better than any app...
@GQuack
@GQuack Жыл бұрын
Let's see if the smartphone truly is *the* ultimate portable digital multitool that can do so much more and see if that magnetic sensor really is good. If it's good enough for the built-in compass app, it could be useful for amateur work. Keep it up, Brian! And here's to a much brighter 2023!
@barrupa
@barrupa Жыл бұрын
From a quick google search, the TMD4912 light/proximity sensor manufactured by AMS seems to be an infrared based sensor and it's primary function is indeed to be a proximity sensor. It just so happens to be an optical light sensor specialized in sensing infrared light. Interesting to see the sensor choice by Samsung now knowing that it is indeed made to be used for both purposes.
@fgbhrl4907
@fgbhrl4907 Жыл бұрын
You can get cellphones / tablets that have RGB-IR light meters in them -- I've worked on designing some of them. They are calibrated at the factory with light sources (at least, the products I worked on). The use of an RGB light sensor was to change display color temperature -- eg, it would be cool blue under flourescent lights, and warm under incandescent.
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench Жыл бұрын
Smart phone apps though have the big downside of having to rely on whatever sensors the manufacturer decided to put into the device. So it could vary a lot. However, I am not the slightest bit surprised over the spectrum being fairly spot on. The frequency references a phone has access to is fairly decent. Very few quartz oscillators are worse than 0.01% absolute accuracy. However, having access to time things from this oscillator isn't always available, but the audio chip itself will deliver its samples using that oscillator as its own reference. So one can be very certain that if the ADC provides 44800 samples/second that it will be fairly accurate. But exact audio amplitude will depend on a lot of things. Both the manufacturing tolerances of the microphone, amplifier, and ADC. So it could vary a lot. Especially since absolute amplitude isn't particularly important in audio applications regardless. (as long as it is nice and linear it doesn't matter if it has a different amount of amplification.) So I am surprised about the amplitude accuracy. But perhaps they factory calibrate this, otherwise I would expect a 2-10% accuracy there alone, perhaps your phone is just above average. The magnetic sensor part could be interesting to look at. But regardless. I personally prefer using dedicated measurement tools. Both because they are often more adapted to the job, but also because they can be more trusted. (especially as far as traceable calibration goes.)
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie Жыл бұрын
Now I want a 50w RGB. And I’m not surprised by audio meter in the phone. I played with the capability after using a guitar app, it really is impressive and accurate. I’ve also found aircraft interiors to limit sound to safe levels
@ashyouknow7420
@ashyouknow7420 Жыл бұрын
interesting. It's like seeing the world from a new perspective, isn't it?
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck Жыл бұрын
6:30 even if the pun was not intended, I laughed 🤣
@Dukefazon
@Dukefazon Жыл бұрын
I regularly watch a guy who repairs all kinds of old computery stuff, sometimes CRT monitors and TVs and he uses an app to determine if the CRT is working by looking at a spectrum analizer on his phone. If the TV/monitor doesn't show a picture but the main circuit is working, he can see a peak in the monitor's/TV's operational frequency on his app, very interesting stuff.
@atonduke7612
@atonduke7612 Жыл бұрын
I'm quite surprised with how well the phone did. I'd definitely like to see you test the magnetic sensor and other sensors (compass, gyroscope, g-sensor, ...) on your smartphone.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science Жыл бұрын
The main issue with the smartphones is that you never really know if your model is as good as another with any particular app. You'd have to test it against a reference meter for everything before you can trust it at all. Of course cheap dedicated tools can also have their issues. For example I have a lux meter that gives me pretty high readings when I shine some 400nm light on it - because the plastic in front of the sensor fluoresces and changes the color.
@l.mcmanus3983
@l.mcmanus3983 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Neat to see the smart phone do that well for light. And that makes sense that is might purposefully be extra sensitive to infrared.
@ecodev15
@ecodev15 Жыл бұрын
yes make the gaussmeter phone video ive always been surprised with the sensors in phones! samsungs older phones used to have heart rate monitors built in (mine does)
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter Жыл бұрын
One thing to say, usually the expensive ones are accurate and don't drift much, and when they drift, some offer a life-time warranty for calibration.
@kithpendragon
@kithpendragon Жыл бұрын
I use "Physics Toolbox Sensor Suite Pro" to access my phone's sensors. There's a free version that I upgraded from because I liked the app so much. Both versions include access to the camera and microphones, proximity sensor and light meter, accelerometer and gravitometer, and the magnetic sensor. I'd love to see all the phone's sensors put against dedicated devices!
@mhdm
@mhdm Жыл бұрын
For anyone else wondering how to get to the "service menu" at 2:22 that one is specific to most S* samsung phones. It can be access by typing in *#0*# in the dialer (no need to actually press call, no need for a separate app).
@andrewmetasov
@andrewmetasov Жыл бұрын
Idk about other phones, but Samsung's microphones are just amazing, range and accuracy is awesome
@chassy7072
@chassy7072 Жыл бұрын
The amount of respect i have for your work for simply putting safety warnings in your videos is ridiculous. Good work friend
@HuskyMan77
@HuskyMan77 Жыл бұрын
2:33 That's pretty interesting, on my phone (which is a Galaxy S8) it has both the light sensor and the proximity sensor separately. I also wonder if the light sensor being under the screen in the Galaxy S21+ affects the light readings a little bit, on my S8 it's on the top bezel.
@DunOpondo
@DunOpondo 9 ай бұрын
Such tests are the reason I like Samsung flagship phones, portability and accuracy of sensors. Great video 👍🏿
@NLind
@NLind Жыл бұрын
Now watch the downloads for Decibel X and Photometer Pro skyrocket, great publicity for those apps! But I would also like to see a comparison for the magnetic sensor.
@asteria1065
@asteria1065 Жыл бұрын
Truee!!!
@Kaamszz
@Kaamszz Жыл бұрын
Big yes for the magnetic test with the smartphone !!!!!
@hughbrackett343
@hughbrackett343 Жыл бұрын
I took a family member for an MRI. I entertained myself the entire time I was waiting by exploring the field of the 5T magnet, that was about 20' away in another room, with my smartphone. I've tried some 'metal detector' apps and found them not useful. Magnetometers are used for underground locating but they are arranged in such a way as to cancel the ambient magnetic field thus detecting tiny anomalies. The phone of course is designed to measure the ambient magnetic field.
@DustyTheDog
@DustyTheDog Жыл бұрын
9:03 I can hear something happening here. It's very high pitched, but it's there. This is the reason I hated being around any CRT screens.
@DEtchells
@DEtchells Жыл бұрын
Good video! Yes, I’d definitely like to see how good the magnetic field sensor is! (It’s probably only good for very low gauss levels though, as it’s only there to act as a compass :-/)
@asilva781
@asilva781 Жыл бұрын
The a and c weightin I remember measures with mores sensitivity frequencies from 500Hz to 5000Hz. May be this is why you have very different measurements with extreme frequencies.
@nefariousyawn
@nefariousyawn Жыл бұрын
This is probably valuable information for people that like to build their own lights for aquariums, terrariums, indoor plant growth, etc. Lights marketed for any of these specific applications tend to be more expensive.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
Measurements for those applications cannot be made in Lux. That's because Lumens and Lux are weighted measurements that only apply to human vision.
@rexthewild
@rexthewild Жыл бұрын
To be honest… it makes sense that “ a free app from the phone” does such a good job, at least as a sound meter, since the phone has some good microphones that needs to make us sound as good as we can when speaking trough them, so an app just take the raw info from the mic and give it to us on a slick UI, what surprise me is that the proccessors on the phones can tell the frequencies of the sounds that are playing
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Жыл бұрын
Smart phones really are getting smart. Great video 2x👍
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they sure are getting expensive too. But maybe I understand the price a little better after making this video. They are packed with sensors of decent quality :) Thanks for the early watch!
@JoshuaNicoll
@JoshuaNicoll Жыл бұрын
Yes there should be an IR LED near the lux sensor as that's how the proximity sensor works, by reading how much reflected IR there, at least that's how it should work. There are other kinds but that's the IR lux meter one, common on smart phones.
@kmemz
@kmemz Жыл бұрын
Magnetometers have been used in phones for gyroscope corrections, to limited success. I'm not holding too much hope that the magnetometer coild make an accurate reading, if it can't accurately be used to correct a gyro.
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 Жыл бұрын
Sensors in phones work rather well, but the software can be very hit or miss.
@graealex
@graealex Жыл бұрын
@@vgamesx1 Depends on what your scale for reference is. Smart phones will usually use the smallest available sensors, which are usually the last-gen stuff, but it doesn't mean that's the stuff with the lowest noise necessarily.
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
I would be surprised too if the magnetic sensors are precise - especially when there are three of them. But hey, the phone surprised me for this video so worth a try ;) Thanks for watching!
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 Жыл бұрын
@@graealex Noise isn't a big deal, you just do the same as what anything else does, like a DMM, take a few thousand or so samples and give an average every second.
@graealex
@graealex Жыл бұрын
@@vgamesx1 Noise is by far the biggest problem for acceleration and gyro sensors. Without noise, you could easily implement an INS. What you are describing is just a very simple low-pass filter.
@MrNoobed
@MrNoobed 8 ай бұрын
I have a lot of success using my phone camera to look down fiber optic bulkheads to quickly verify which fiber is receiving light from the field. Its so nice because its always at hand and nost everything these days is back to back capable ethernet sfps
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ Жыл бұрын
Audio perception is very fascinating. At the threshold of hearing the distance the eardrum moves about 1 picometer, 100 times smaller than a hydrogen atom. Which opens the question, are quantum effects involved in hearing?
@eutare123
@eutare123 Жыл бұрын
Yes please test the magnetic sensor ,also try to see if you can use a smartphone as a metal detector . I know you can find wires and pipes in walls but curios how it compares to the real deal
@neutronenstern.
@neutronenstern. Жыл бұрын
Smartphone Sensors are pretty Ovetpowered for its usage. Eg. The Acellerometer is probably the most overpowered one. If you install phyphox, you can monitore it pretty good. And if you lay it onto a table, turn on 3s starting time, for you to not change the scaling by touching it, you can clearly see on the screen, when someone walks by, or if you tap gently in a fair distance to the phone on the table, with your pinky finger. It can detect a lot.
@glbernini0
@glbernini0 Жыл бұрын
Which SPL app was used on the phone? Make & model of phone as well, we shouldn't assume all phones & apps are equally good, THANKS!
@tommiller1315
@tommiller1315 Жыл бұрын
At the start, I was thinking there is another meter to add to my collection. (Anyway, I couldn't find it for sale here in the UK). Your results have put me off getting one anyway - thank you👍
@advarkmerrygoround1425
@advarkmerrygoround1425 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoying your videos. However I must point out a blindingly obvious error with your measurements of dB's. Distance from the source is a key to measurement, as the inverse square law is key to dB measurement. Standard dB specifications are measured at 1 meter. For comparative testing, one needs to have consistent distance measurements as the inverse square law makes a huge difference when measuring sound waves as opposed to light waves. The speed of sound and the speed of light are vastly different and therefore the effect of distance from the source is as huge. Certain crustacea can immobilize their prey with a shock wave of over 140dB at 1mm, but if you measure the sound from 1meter it would only register as a fraction of that (my maths is not up to calculating the difference, but it will be vastly different). Sorry, but I had to post this. Love your site Sir. :-))
@pennyether8433
@pennyether8433 Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the decibel meter smartphone app?
@cherokee131
@cherokee131 4 ай бұрын
Decibel X
@haajee1
@haajee1 Жыл бұрын
The sensors on a high end smartphone like a Galaxy S21+ is also by far better than a cheap smartphone i think. And use Phyphox! From the university of Aachen.
@davpro1792
@davpro1792 Жыл бұрын
Yes make a video about the Magnet sensor of your smartphone. Would be a very... interesting video!
@WilburJaywright
@WilburJaywright Жыл бұрын
Midway, I want to say, kudos for giving excellent music credits. Thanks!
@MateoPlavec
@MateoPlavec Жыл бұрын
2:47 "Not bad for a sensor meant only for adjusting the screen's brightness" This statement is only semi-accurate. On modern phones with edge-to-edge screens (especially Samsung) the luxmeter is also used for proximity detection (eg. turning off the screen when on a call and the phone is close to the ear). This is a recent change, probably because there is no room for a proper IR proximity sensor in the thin bezel. Edit: spoke too soon, you clarify later in the video.
@andyafk
@andyafk Жыл бұрын
from \my understanding, luminosity of lux were calculated by distance of the light and the front camera of the phone might be focus closer (focal length) to the light source then the light meter that you were using
@tommiller1315
@tommiller1315 Жыл бұрын
I have a cheap dB meter that gives a 35dBA reading in low noise. You confirmed it may be working within a reasonable tolerance - thank you 🙂 The noise level outside my home has an ear piercing level of 103.5 dBA from time to time from the neighbouring military aircraft. I'm going to make a complaint, as the acceptable industrial level is 85 dBA for workers! 😱
@adnanmlivo5885
@adnanmlivo5885 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that apps where way off. I guess not. Great video as always!
@The77Game
@The77Game Жыл бұрын
11:36 the point about "the right phone model" is what i would like to see tested. Do phones generally do well or is it just the more expensive ones or certain brands? And also is it only accurate up to a certain point? This could be very useful information as i have seen people use a phone app to see if they are in an environment where they should use hearing protection. If they see this and assume a phone can measure that but it can't, people could be putting their hearing at risk.
@Uberhood
@Uberhood Жыл бұрын
Hi Brianiac75. How did you find the light sensor service menu? I can't find it on my samsung service menu, only accelerometer and megnetometer for example. Thanks.
@wtfgoogledoyouthinkthisisa924
@wtfgoogledoyouthinkthisisa924 Жыл бұрын
If you want to mease dB you want your membrane of your microphone being orthogonal to the direction the soundwave is traveling. Because if you have a rigid surface the wave will be reflected an the (rigid) surface and you get 6dB more. Basically what this means is that you can get 6dB more pressure depending how you place your measuring device. I think your danish so this is what you should look up if u want to learn more: opbygning af tryk
@ejmikk
@ejmikk Жыл бұрын
First of all, I am a professional sound engineer and AV technician, we have tested a lot of smartphones for spl measurement for fun at work over the years. The dBA weighting is supposed to cut off frequencies above 10khz, the smartphone is very possibly erroneously including them in the calculation. That frequency spectrum of the music being played on the display of the smartphone also clearly shows the mic is way too sensitive to high frequencies, that is not how music looks like on a decent measurement mic. Even if a smartphone mic happens to be fairly accurate at 1khz at the time of recording the video, I can guarantee it is not accurate throughout the whole frequency spectrum. This is possibly because the smartphone mic is designed for speech, not for linear frequency response. You also tested a single model of a smartphone, however the accuracy of smartphone mics for measurement purposes varies HUGELY, they are often 10-20db off of each other. Also, even professional measurement mics go "off spec" fairly quickly due to heat and humidity changes and they need to be calibrated several times a year, the calibrator also needs to be calibrated for the results to be accurate, none of this is of course done to a smartphone and the results you get on a smartphone do not stay reliable even only for a 1khz tone. Smartphones are essentially useless for spl measurement purposes.
@ronsku57
@ronsku57 Жыл бұрын
Yes please make a video for the magnetic sensor on the phone!
@NebulonRanger
@NebulonRanger 5 ай бұрын
Modern phones actually have decent miniature recording gear inside--there were many instances of voice actors recording on their phones during peak COVID.
@whitehorsept
@whitehorsept Жыл бұрын
Yes please! Would be interesting to test the other smartphone sensors!
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton Жыл бұрын
Just a little bit of know-how. Incandescent light sources, including halogen bulbs have output related to the square of the voltage. On the other hand, their lifetime DROPS proportional to the CUBE of the voltage. These are ages old rules from my memory, but supposedly still valid. However, they do not apply to LEDs.
@blithegd8
@blithegd8 Жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, merry Christmas and a happy new year~ :) I really like your videos! thanks for making them
@brainiac75
@brainiac75 Жыл бұрын
Hi tjop. Same to you - hoping for a great 2023!
@blithegd8
@blithegd8 Жыл бұрын
@@brainiac75 Thanks bro :)
@UtkarshAmitabhSrivastava
@UtkarshAmitabhSrivastava Жыл бұрын
Now I want a comparison between different smartphones.
@YTshashmeera
@YTshashmeera Жыл бұрын
Yes! I'd love to see a video covering the magnetic sensor
@addusernamehere
@addusernamehere 2 ай бұрын
Great scientific breakdown & comparative analysis. Thank you!!!
@handle924
@handle924 Жыл бұрын
which app did you use in the video? curious how well smartphones are at measuring low-frequency noise
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo Жыл бұрын
I use my phone to detect strong magnetic fields/Flux at times. Very useful if you're trying to locate something in some piping. Now if only there's an ultrasonic or vibrational transducer attachments for these phones.
@raihanlazuardi6632
@raihanlazuardi6632 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Please make a video about the magnetic sensor.
@CTcuber4K
@CTcuber4K Жыл бұрын
I used the decibelX app at an airshow for a eurofighter typhoon, it gave a max reading of only around 110 decibels while the actual volume was definitely in the 130-140db range. I would think phones start to struggle when the sound gets really loud, but I can't confirm that as I only have that single test.
@christiangonzalez6945
@christiangonzalez6945 Жыл бұрын
Considering that 110 decibels it's permanent damage zone at least its doing their job...
@plrodgers
@plrodgers 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, this is quite interesting. Do add more discussion and videos on other sensors available in cellular phones.
@pmate95
@pmate95 Жыл бұрын
I think the result depends on the phone too. I mean, cheaper phones could have worse results. I think it's worth to try different smartphones, and comparing them. Although it's very suprising, that these sensors in your phone are so accurate. Thank you for the video, it was very interesting!
@systemdrive7970
@systemdrive7970 Жыл бұрын
Again, another amazing video. I really love these side by side comparison videos. Love your videos!
@clown134
@clown134 10 ай бұрын
the smartphone apps are entirely dependant on how high quality the sensors in your particular phone are there are quite a few very good apps on the fdroid market that are open source and expose readings from the hardware sensors on your phone for all kinds of uses
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
These big companies aren't going to like you haha. Great video and very informative. This is really handy to know. Thanks for sharing
@graealex
@graealex Жыл бұрын
Halogen lamps emitting UVC? Seems highly unlikely. Filters are usually there to reflect some of the IR.
@AnalogWolf
@AnalogWolf Жыл бұрын
Very well done, technically sound and you also do a great job breaking it down into terms that are easy to understand.
@sittingstill3578
@sittingstill3578 Жыл бұрын
Please do the gauss sensor. I found this video very useful.
@HighVoltageMadness
@HighVoltageMadness Жыл бұрын
Not all phones have accurate dB sound meter. My phone seems to be capped at like 85dB and the reading is very inaccurate. It only works well on certain models of cellphones. I have tested the lux meter, magnetic sensor, barometer, gyro, and accelerometer on my phone and they were pretty good though.
@johnniewalker39
@johnniewalker39 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Didn't see that coming (no pun intended) 😄 And yes, please do a vid on the phone magnetic sensor readings. Happy New Year!
@MrTurbo_
@MrTurbo_ Жыл бұрын
The thing with the db meter apps is that popular phones often get their own calibration profile making them fairly accurate, while less popular phones are often waaaaaay of, making them completely useless, also dedicated db meters often do way better at very loud sounds like 110+ db because the phone mic will clip
@MrHQQX
@MrHQQX Жыл бұрын
I'd love if you made a video about turning a LUX meter into PAR meter. There were some projects online, and I'd be great help for hobbyists, since PAR meters are expensive af.
@zombieregime
@zombieregime Жыл бұрын
I use am audio spectrum analyzer app called Spectroid that can sample at up to 96000hz on the device Im currently using, which boils down to 0 to 48khz audio range. I have no idea how accurate it is, but when using the high sample rate it can clearly pick up a pocket drone I have with a 40khz ultrasonic ground sensor. Phone MEMS microphones are always going to be more sensitive to higher frequencies purely by virtue of being tiny, regardless of what the audio compression circuits do for packing whatever audio it detects into a phone call...
@mrwojna
@mrwojna 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS Жыл бұрын
Wow! I'd been curious about the sound level readings from apps for a long time. Pretty impressive! With that phone and app combo, anyways.
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