Bran is the Night King is a Bad Theory (Here's Why) | ASOIAF & Game of Thrones

In this weeks discussion, we talk about the Evil Bran Theory. Bran is possessed by Bloodraven. Bran is possessed by the Night King. Bran is possessed by both of them?? Basically, Bran is Evil. He was responsible for all the war in Westeros. He made Daenerys Targaryen go mad and then exiled Jon Snow to secure his place as King with no rivals. Is there any truth to this theory??? No. Absolutely not. Evil Bran is just a gritty grimdark ending people think is fitting but its not. Let's discuss why...
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[@pplr1]

Thank you for putting some link out to who you follow. I disagree with some of what you said in this video. Below is a copy of my remark laying out why. It gets a bit long but thank you if you are willing to read through it. Here it is.: I'll have to disagree with this video. Take a close look at season 8. Season 8 is an illogical mess. But "evil Bran theory" makes season 8 less illogical. You focus on arguing Bran is not the Night King but not "evil Bran theory". The argument he manipulated events in order to mentally break season 8 Dany has multiple moments that support it-and Bran does not have to be the Night King to do this. It may add flavor if Bran is the Night King but that was never required. Part of your argument is strawmaning here Bran doesn't need to be the Night King to be evil. He never did. But back to things Bran did do. There is a pattern to them. Whenever Bran acts or manipulates events it makes the burning of King's Landing more likely-never less likely. That pattern lends itself to evil Bran theory. Bran is the 1 pushed Sam to tell Jon his linage when Sam was getting cold feet and wasn't going to. That is Bran taking action. Bran admitted to Jamie that he withholds information as a means to manipulate a situation. So those withholdings count as Bran's manipulations. Bran knows full well that if he mentioned Jamie pushed a Stark kid out of a window then Jamie would likely be executed based on his own actions-something Tyrion wouldn't have much reason to blame Dany for. Bran needs Tyrion to turn on season 8 Dany so rather than saving Jamie's life (which he could have done by supporting Brienne) Bran using Jamie so that his death happens in the most useful way-a way that turns Tyrion against season 8 Dany. Bran has no excuse for not speaking up about Euron's naval ambush near Dragonstone. He already admitted he can see things going on in the present across Westeros, and King's Landing was a place he had reason to keep an eye on. Withholding info on Euron's ships being near Dragonstone means Bran wanted Euron to cause damage-thus that Bran wanted Dany to see another dragon and another friend die. Bran lied to Tyrion about not having wants. Bran used his magic powers to go through centuries of the past to get a better chair design than the 1 Tyrion gave him for free. Bran's actions show he still has wants. So why lie to Tyrion about it? Because this puts Bran himself in a position to mirror what Varys will say about the best leader supposedly not wanting it. Bran needs Tyrion to make a speech favoring Bran at the council meeting in order to become King. This is Bran manipulating Tyrion into supporting him later. BTW lying to Tyrion is an action. Speaking of that council meeting. Bran pushed Sam to tell Jon his linage earlier. That is pushing for Jon's linage to be known. So Bran has no excuse for not bringing up Jon's linage at the council meeting when who should be king is discussed. That Bran is silent about it and doesn't even prompt Sam to talk about in again is Bran withholding information again. Arguably that reveals Bran was merely using Jon's linage as a way to cause problems for both Jon and Dany.. and keeping it hidden once it had served its purpose. Speaking of Jon's linage it was Bran who partly revealed Jon's linage to Sansafinger and Arya. Most people don't have a choice about what their linage is. Who their biological parents are is generally a set thing. For Bran to say to Jon that he has a choice about this reveals part of Jon's secret and puts Jon in a position where both his Stark sisters (proclaimed by Arya herself) could easily push him to add details. Jon telling his secret linage to Sansafinger results in more stress between Jon and season 8 Dany as well as Varys getting killed. That is subtle action by Bran, not doing nothing. Bran doesn't defend himself during the battle with the Night King. Instead he prompts Theon Greyjoy to get himself killed when Bran could have easily said nothing or something else to get Theon to hold back a few seconds so Arya could save them both. Thus Bran's actions were part of getting Theon killed. Theon was respectful of Dany and a friend of Sansa's (or Sansafinger). Had Theon lived he may have served as a bridge builder between them thus preventing Sansafinger's actions and making the burning of King's Landing less likely. Bran manipulating others people to their deaths is taking action. There are probably a few details I forgot about at the time of writing this. But the point remains. If one looks at Bran's actions and manipulations a pattern emerges. Bran's actions and manipulations always and only contribute to increasing the odds King's Landing will burn and Bran will become king. Never decreasing those odds. Since Bran told Tyrion "Why do you think I came all this way?" That very strongly indicates Bran planned to become King before he left to come to King's Landing for that meeting. He planned to become King. The only question becomes how early was Bran making plans to be become king and manipulating events to make it happen? The answer seems to be throughout season 8-based on Bran's actions. I think it is possible the show writers (D and D) are so inept they did not even realize they were putting evidence in season 8 that implicates Bran is a manipulative mass murderer. But they did. So even someone wants to take season 8 seriously the evidence is there. An alternative, of course, is not to take season 8 seriously. I recommend that. FYI There is good reason to think D and D broke from GRRM's story. Before they ran out of books they were already doing things that were different from the books. Book Euron and book Tyrion are flat out different characters from show Euron and show Tyrion. GRRM himself has already acknowledged this. With GRRM having left the show years ago and D and D being willing to break from the books even before they ran out of books there is little reason to think they would be unwilling to change things from what GRRM told them even if he told them his actual plans. Strong evidence has come to light that the earlier plans for season 8 itself had wildfire-not 1 dragon without a rest break after it had essentially won 2 battles on its own-be the reason much of King's Landing was wrecked. D and D changed this after season 8 had started being made. This is a major change. So if D and D were willing to make changes to their own plans that were both major and late into things then there is good reason to expect they would make changes from whatever GRRM told them years ago. GRRM may plan on making Bran king if he ever finishes the books. But odds are he will have Bran do something that is important and other people see it as worthwhile. That is not what D and D did. So there is very good reason to expect GRRM's story to be different. And GRRM himself may have book Daenerys die in a way that is heroic or redemptive-perhaps sacrificing herself to help Jon deal with frozen undead. Speaking of the frozen undead-or "Others" as the books refer to the White Walkers-they were early on in the 1st episode of GoT. Perhaps GRRM planned to make them very important from that. So important that the issues relating to them are bigger than and to be resolved after the situation with Cersei in King's Landing is. To sum things up. There are plenty of pieces of evidence in season 8 to argue Bran is manipulating things-including Bran taking action (so it cannot be accurately claimed he is neutral or doing nothing in regards to this). D and D were very willing to make changes to things-so their decisions should not be hidden behind GRRM. And "evil Bran theory" makes season 8 less illogical-not good but less illogical (even if D and D put the evidence for it in season on accident). So if one wants to ignore "evil Bran theory" it is easy to do-just ignore season 8. Season 8 is so detached from and contradicted by GoT seasons 1-7 (for example season 2 clearly said, via Davos, and showed, via events, that bells do not mean surrender in King's Landing) that it arguably should not be considered part of the same story. Thanks again if you read through it.

[@KevinPendragon]

I appreciate this thoughtful comment. I did read through it entirely. Something you said pretty much goes along with a major point I made in this video. Here's your quoted comment: *"And "evil Bran theory" makes season 8 less illogical-not good but less illogical (even if D and D put the evidence for it in season on accident)."* Evil Bran was never the intention. I talked about this when I mentioned the Sherlock Show theory that Hbomberguy talked about in his deep dive of the series. Fans invented it due to their dissatisfaction with that show's ending. They cherrypicked evidence to make a conclusion much more acceptable to them. But they were wrong in that. Likewise, any evidence you see for Evil Bran is an accident, not what the creators wanted you to see. There's nothing at the end of GOT that suggests there's some unresolved major antagonist like an Evil King ruling over a tortured land. We see that plants are already growing in the lands north of the Wall. That tells us that the ultimate evil - those cold creatures called the Others - have been successfully defeated. Winter came and now it's gone. Is there ultimate peace in the realm? No. Because that's not very realistic. Bran's council has problems but they are not problems that come from Bran. They come from people like Bronn and even Tyrion. Bronn being made a highlord is ridiculous but even Martin himself has said he never expected Bronn to continue so long as a character in the novels. Bronn was just a seed he planted that kept growing and he kept using him. D&D are not as talented as Martin but they tried to continue this growth down what they thought was a logical conclusion but it's just not believable. There's just nothing substantial that indicates Bran is Evil. If anything, Bran seems to be moving along the course of events he has no control over. This makes sense as the books tells us that when people try to advert prophecy (and Bran is full of prophecy), that is always a tricky beast. Bran was/is just going along with the flow but the show failed to establish that in the best way. The line "I can't be lord of anything" was supposed to be foreshadowing Bran can't be a lord, but he can be King. But whoever wrote it, failed to remember the King of Westeros is also Lord of the Seven Kingdoms. Bran not doing anything during the Long Night 2.0 is because they couldn't conceive of anything meaningful for him to do. An Evil Bran or a Bad King Bran was not what the show was leading us to. We're supposed to believe Bran makes for the best ruler at the time because of his vast knowledge of history but the show simply did not do a great job of establishing that. I think one good moment of Bran using his brain is when he contributes to Littlefinger's execution. There was supposed to be a scene where Sansa goes to Bran to ask him for help but it was deleted.

[@pplr1]

@@KevinPendragon Thank you for reading through my post and calling it thoughtful. This failing "We're supposed to believe Bran makes for the best ruler at the time because of his vast knowledge of history but the show simply did not do a great job of establishing that" both opens the door to evil Bran theory and also shows a profound failing on the shows part. I think I already went over much of the evil Bran bit before so I don't need to revisit withholding knowledge for malicious reasons. But to the broader issue off history.. I can understand that knowing history should make people a better ruler. I can support that though. However with Bran at best it that knowledge is useless because he never tries to make use of it in any positive way. Not only that but he isn't even useful for the sake of knowledge itself since there are know scenes of him explaining to scribes how various little known events or lost technologies work and thus serving to preserve knowledge so someone else can at least act on what Bran knows. Bran becomes something of a waste of space and I think we can agree on that. Thank you for pointing out what you did about Bronn. Many have noticed he shouldn't be getting anything like the benefits the Bronn we saw at the end of season 8 did. That GRRM wasn't planning to do much with him further is telling in itself. We agree that "evil Bran theory" was very possibly not what D and D intended. Do you agree that it makes some parts of season 8 less illogical? I'm not asking you to agree with the theory in any way, just access how it works with parts of season 8 independent of D and D's intentions. Thank you again for your response and have a good day.

[@drparadox7833]

There was theory that Bran WAS Night's King like he jumped into past and got stuck in Night's King's body and theory that Bran while time sliping comunicated with Aerys in duskandale which made him go mad and that is why as he died he screamed "burn them all!" Meaning white walkers.

[@alanpennie8013]

Time - travelling Bran as an unwitting (eventually witting) alterer of history was an intriguing idea the show didn't ultimately do much with. Maybe fan fic will do more.

[@drparadox7833]

@@alanpennie8013 Som Fanfiction is FAR better than later seasons of the show.

[@sylvielaufeydottir2812]

As far as the show I’m with you 100% on this. For the books however there is a possibility Bran is sus. Reading thru the Varymyr prologue of ADWD, I take particular interest in the three Skinchanger Abominations Varymyr establishes. Then reading through the Bran chapters and having two out of three of those abominations occur pretty clearly. Plus there is a creepy thought Bran has as Hodor that makes me worry about him committing the third. Not to mention the way he describes Hodor ‘cowering in a corner’ when he takes his body is absolutely heartbreaking.

[@KevinPendragon]

It is very suspicious Bloodraven doesn't teach or scold Bran about skinchanging other people. He has yet to tell Bran what he did was a terrible violation of another person's body and mind. I'm hoping he will but I fear he will not. Bloodraven violated people's rights when he was alive which is why he was sent to the Wall in the first place.

[@skepticinall]

I'm with you on this. The show failed in so many ways I agree. But in the books he is incredibly sus as you put it.

[@burtan2000]

@@skepticinallAt this point, the show has no bearing. It provides a few possible hints at what may come. But the future is not set it's ever changing I'm over 35 so i'm not entirely clear on the vernacular of youth and the meaning of sus in this context I thought it meant sucks; it's bad, disappointing; lame ass shit; not cool, bro. Is he "bad"? We had a good man as president once. A really good man. Highly ethical. He was not a good POTUS. Lincoln was a good man. But he was also a great man. He could delve into the muck and punch an enemy in the guts or in the balls when no one was looking. He sought to be the lesser evil. That is our great destiny. We are the lesser of evils. Kill a thousand innocents to save a million people. We know Jamie is good or at least has done good. Perhaps the best single act we've seen in the entire story so far and in perfect GRRM fashion, he's vilified for it. It is a vile act. A treasonous, traitorous, heroic act. Ned - who's father and brother had recently been killed by this tyrant - considers it a horrible act. It's so black and white to him. Ned is my favorite character. "he sucks he's stupid he gets himself killed and thrusts the entire nation into a bloody civil war when he should've just allowed three innocent kids (well, two innocent and one little shit) be executed. But he didn't. Bran - in that position - goes all Dr Strabge and views the long term consequences of each choice, and then slits their throats without hesitation when he sees that eliminating the bastards is best. He sells his soul to bring peace and prosperity to Westeros. Not unlike Oppenheimer It's like the legend that FDR knew about the japanese attack. He knew and did NOTHING. He did nothing bc he needed us - the world needed us - to unify. He needed that sleeping giant to wake up and grow wroth. Was it the right move? Idk. Commissioner Gordon considers it and says it's too big. But it's not too big for big brained bran the broken. Brab knows! That's why Bran becomes the Night king. To stop dragons. He becomes Bloodraven to stop the NK. He becomes the boar to kill the king. He becomes the wolf that kills the stag. He's the raven and the crow and Bran the builder. He only ever becomes a few people, all of them are First Men.

[@nanhunter87]

​@@skepticinallthe show failed Bran in so many ways. One of many failed characters unfortunately (looking at you Dark Tyrion). Since Bran is a POV character, it's easy to b give him the benefit of the doubt, as we can see his very own perceived intentions re. his atrocities. Given his power, his arc could go anywhere. I lean towards him being the one that started the song of Ice and Fire, through some meddling, and this is just one of his attempts to put it right. Season imbalance, the doom, the others. He needs to bring balance to the elements, but can only influence the population of Planetos, not control them. After thousands of attempts, we are watching the time line that brings it to a close. Puts the world back in balance, but at some absolutely tragic cost. That's what I think anyway

[@thebovineavenger]

BRAN DID NOT START as the heir. That was ROB.

[@KevinPendragon]

Damn you're right

[@zacmccollum7144]

I came to the comments to say that as soon as he said it lol, then I saw your comment

[@randominternetguyoffical]

Just got to the end thank you for the shout out as well!

[@MasterMote]

Thanks for the shout out at the end..one of these days I'm gonna convince u to watch my stuff😅

[@randominternetguyoffical]

yeah shaun! good shout out

[@kidgforce1]

Great that Bran´s mind warging leaves no visible traces to prove it

[@staytuned2L337]

Legit content consumption 👍🏼

[@SupportGamin2024]

THIS THEORY IS BETTER THAN season 8 as a whole so nah it's not a bad theory at all 😂

[@djmannik]

Shout out to Shaun hbomb and contra

[@KevinPendragon]

They are inspirations

[@whaddup691]

It would be a time traveling bran. So the bran now would go back in time and puppeteer everyone

[@olofacosta3192]

Glad to see you post again. I would ask what is your thoughts in what Euron's plan is and what he will do in book 6?

[@KevinPendragon]

Euron drinking shade of the evening has given him visions of prophecies and future events that are exciting and world changing but they do not necessarily concern him. He will try to insert himself into these events thinking he will gain status and power but it will not be as he expects and he will likely get himself killed. Thank you for the kind comment

[@olofacosta3192]

@@KevinPendragon yeah man I love your content. Ever since your "life and lies of varys" I knew you were legit Personally I think you could almost do a similar video with Euron. The hints that he was in Qarth during a clash of kings,his seeming connection with Jaqen H'ghar, the dragon egg and doom of valyria and as you said the visions. I personally think Euron was a greenseer who saw the apocalypse. He brought this information and teamed up with the house of black and white who may or may not be interested in bringing the apocalypse. He then travels to Qarth where he has a glass candle (under the name of urrathon night-walker) and captures the warlocks,their shade and their dragon horn. After that he sets his eyes upon oldtown where he alongside the faceless man se know as pate are planning to blow up the citadel with the dragon egg. Remember that summerhall and the doom seems to have happened partly due to dragon eggs exploding. After that I think it's possible that he blows the horn of winter although I don't know if he survives this or not. But yeah that's just my two piece lol. Sorry for the long comment

[@ProtectBlackWomenExposeBlackMe]

I really do enjoy Phoenix Ashes (I think this KZbin name) content.

[@Cheattoe]

Quins ideas is a great channel! Lucifer means light bringer is also a good channel, his empire of the dawn theory is great brain food

[@KevinPendragon]

Yes Quinn is great

[@amberroy7521]

I have such a hard time picturing Bran on the iron throne at the end of the books. On the small council or hand of the king, sure. But him becoming the king? I would love to read how GRRM gets him there. As far as Bran being evil, I also have a hard time believing that. Some of the fan theories out there are wild. Fun to think about, but ultimately not going to happen

[@KevinPendragon]

I agree with you and I don't believe he will be evil in the books because Mel says he was and she's... well, she's Mel I can see him becoming king. Bran will gain all this knowledge from the weirwooodnet. People will look at him and see a child but he will have eons of ancient history to draw from. The lives of hundreds of other rulers will be his experience. "A thousand eyes, a hundred skins, wisdom deep as the roots of ancient trees."

[@amberroy7521]

@@KevinPendragon do you think Tyrion will be his hand, like in the show? I don't think it will happen based on book Tyrion being so different from the show, but who knows

[@alanpennie8013]

​@@KevinPendragon My guess is that he'll rule from The Isle of Faces, like Arthur ruling from Avalon, with the political capital and court being at Harrenhal. Perhaps KL will remain a ruin.

[@kadymiddleton6699]

Yes I’m still mad about season 8 but I have come to accept it as just another fan theory that I don’t like (kind of like this one) but I do find it more enjoyable to watch now that I don’t hold it as absolute truth. I think a lot of the fan theories out there are interesting even if I don’t think it’s how the story will end. I think everyone has had to much time to think about how the story will end and it’s given us a lot of theories that aren’t worth looking into to much but some are fun and I like most more than the show

[@KevinPendragon]

Only books are the absolute truth and hopefully we get them all (pls george)

[@kristenstoumann8345]

But is it trully Bran, I mean do he not say he is no longer Bran, I think perhaps the 3ec/3er is the true enemy just that he bodyswapped with Bran

[@KevinPendragon]

Bran is not truly Bran anymore. He is the Three Eyed Raven. He is still Bran but the power has changed him. The Three Eyed Crow in the books could possibly be a bad person. Old Nan says all crows are liars and Old Nan is right about a lot. So we will have to wait and see in the future. But I don't think the Three Eyed Raven was the true enemy on the show because it didn't happen. And there was no hint in the final episode that was the case. King Bran is just King Bran doing King Bran stuff. There's no suggestion there is something more to him. Also: The Three Eyed Raven never did anything bad we can confirm. It's all speculation and theory. He died tragically because of a mistake Bran made.

[@siscahormansyah]

what about Glidus?

[@KevinPendragon]

The Fake Theories video is absolutely hilarious

[@siscahormansyah]

@@KevinPendragon they are, and his review is the best 🤣

[@ayiza8511]

Night king no Bloodraven yes. He is young and king now after Bran he just jumps to the next king and btw Bean was a second son Robb was the heir

[@jorgemolina8011]

Well, to be honest, nobody knows what The Others truly want.

[@10bunks12]

Will Bran be king in the books. Yes likely. However how we got there in the show was a lazy mess. Events happened just because. All Characters lost their story arcs and became meaningless. So even if Bran was the Knight king. Why did the show end on such a happy note. Tyrion telling his little joke, smiles around the table. RR more than likely gave D&D the bullet points for the story’s ending and the characters arcs. They looked at it and said this will take way to long. We would need 3-4 more seasons. And we got a super mashed condensed down version of what the ending should have been. The only real way to fix this. Is bite the bullet and remake season 8. And add a 9 or even 10 if need be. They will never do any of that , we fans know. But the recons in HOD, and whatever other shows they may put out that will also try to retcon and make season 8 / GOT make sense and come off better. Falls flat it’s all meh. Have to fix the original story / show

[@jefferson39]

pog pendragon theory, hottest intro in the game.

[@KevinPendragon]

many thanks

[@alexmars1511]

Evil in the sense children lack of remorse for the suffering of others

[@KevinPendragon]

Book Bran has remorse for Lady Hornwood and others. But he is still a child and children can be selfish and lack understanding of certain concepts, I agree

[@chables74]

Algormancy!

[@ayiza8511]

Yea no HotD is not mod at all it’s amazing

[@timothytzovolos153]

I would listen to you talk about your sub feed for a whole video

[@KevinPendragon]

There are a few other channels I left out for the sake of brevity

[@emmyland3162]

I just have no desire to see Bran on the iron throne. Is that really where his arc is leading him? His storyline? It seems so convenient and lazy. He also wanted to be a Knight. I think GRRMs play on words might also apply to ‘Nights Watch’ ergo, ‘Knights Watch.’ I guess if you do some word maths, Bran = Knight, Knight = Night, Night’s King = Knight’s King, therefore Bran = King. Stranger things and links have happened in this universe but ultimately I think Bran belongs elsewhere. I do like the idea of Dani as wargbait, especially if she burns KL, and is either driven to it or possessed and not her true actions. The ultimate betrayal would be warging into Drogon and using him to kill Dany. At the end of S8 Bran ‘looks’ for him but not sure if that means anything without book-proof. Also, if Jon is a warg and also a Targ, could he not warg into a dragon? Yikes.

[@BeteBlanc]

Do you know what "Yggdrasill" actually literally translates to? I'm a lot more flexible on what I think the term "Night King" means, but I agree. I roll my eyes every time I see an Evil Bran theory. One thing I do what to say regarding how you framed the NightKing. Are you familiar with theories suggesting random characters also fit? Like Jinglebell. I ask because the one character I don't see suggested is the Night's King. Granted we believe the Others want to kill all life. Maybe, but is it actually true? Do the others fit the profile of the Stallion that mounts the world profile? Would the leader of the Others technically be uniting all peoples in his Khalasar? Would it make sense for the Others to have their own version of the Stallion prophecy? Does the Century of Blood not sound like something similar to the Long Night? A hundred years of complete destruction that destroyed everything. I'm not suggesting the Dothraki prophecy is for the Others. I'm just suggesting we consider the Others might have their own. That their part in the story are more nuanced than simply being a generic "life hater" zombie plot point.

[@KevinPendragon]

I think the complexity in the Others comes from their creation. The complexity rests with the Children of the Forest and why they created them. The Others are just a weaponized winter, an elemental force.

[@alanpennie8013]

Do I believe it? Yes and no. I don't think "god emperor" Bran is evil exactly but he believes he has to save humanity from its evil impulses and that will mean he has to rule them tyrannically for an indefinite period. I think this is GRRM's ending and the show's, it's just that the ending of the show was so rushed its meaning was obscured. Of course the show also pushed an entirely different idea of Bran's significance too, and that was that because of his unrivalled access to the weirwood net he was the custodian of humanity's collective memory, the Watsonian keeper of lore. I don't think the two ideas are incompatible, in fact they dovetail quite well.

[@AerianDawn]

Later seasons are such obvious trash, I won't belabor this point. Given that, "evil Bran" theory is not an attempt to find a hidden meaning in that pile -- it's absent anyway -- it is to offer an alternative that allows one to make some sense of all the mess. The result is still garbage, but even that is more coherent and compelling than the source material. Seriously analyzing this theory is pointless because it's not a serious theory to begin with, it's a stop-gap, a jest, a hack to contrast how uninspired the writing really was. This was a waste of time.

[@KevinPendragon]

This was a waste of time, yes

[@alanpennie8013]

I don't think so. If we accept that what we saw was (more or less) GRRM's ending, and probably the nearest thing to a canonical ending we'll get, we still need to work out what it means because the show didn't tell us.

[@TheBrett1890]

Wooo breadtube hahaha

[@pplr1]

I'll have to disagree with this video. Take a close look at season 8. Season 8 is an illogical mess. But "evil Bran theory" makes season 8 less illogical. You focus on arguing Bran is not the Night King but not "evil Bran theory". The argument he manipulated events in order to mentally break season 8 Dany has multiple moments that support it-and Bran does not have to be the Night King to do this. It may add flavor if Bran is the Night King but that was never required. Part of your argument is strawmaning here Bran doesn't need to be the Night King to be evil. He never did. But back to things Bran did do. There is a pattern to them. Whenever Bran acts or manipulates events it makes the burning of King's Landing more likely-never less likely. That pattern lends itself to evil Bran theory. Bran is the 1 pushed Sam to tell Jon his linage when Sam was getting cold feet and wasn't going to. That is Bran taking action. Bran admitted to Jamie that he withholds information as a means to manipulate a situation. So those withholdings count as Bran's manipulations. Bran knows full well that if he mentioned Jamie pushed a Stark kid out of a window then Jamie would likely be executed based on his own actions-something Tyrion wouldn't have much reason to blame Dany for. Bran needs Tyrion to turn on season 8 Dany so rather than saving Jamie's life (which he could have done by supporting Brienne) Bran using Jamie so that his death happens in the most useful way-a way that turns Tyrion against season 8 Dany. Bran has no excuse for not speaking up about Euron's naval ambush near Dragonstone. He already admitted he can see things going on in the present across Westeros, and King's Landing was a place he had reason to keep an eye on. Withholding info on Euron's ships being near Dragonstone means Bran wanted Euron to cause damage-thus that Bran wanted Dany to see another dragon and another friend die. Bran lied to Tyrion about not having wants. Bran used his magic powers to go through centuries of the past to get a better chair design than the 1 Tyrion gave him for free. Bran's actions show he still has wants. So why lie to Tyrion about it? Because this puts Bran himself in a position to mirror what Varys will say about the best leader supposedly not wanting it. Bran needs Tyrion to make a speech favoring Bran at the council meeting in order to become King. This is Bran manipulating Tyrion into supporting him later. BTW lying to Tyrion is an action. Speaking of that council meeting. Bran pushed Sam to tell Jon his linage earlier. That is pushing for Jon's linage to be known. So Bran has no excuse for not bringing up Jon's linage at the council meeting when who should be king is discussed. That Bran is silent about it and doesn't even prompt Sam to talk about in again is Bran withholding information again. Arguably that reveals Bran was merely using Jon's linage as a way to cause problems for both Jon and Dany.. and keeping it hidden once it had served its purpose. Speaking of Jon's linage it was Bran who partly revealed Jon's linage to Sansafinger and Arya. Most people don't have a choice about what their linage is. Who their biological parents are is generally a set thing. For Bran to say to Jon that he has a choice about this reveals part of Jon's secret and puts Jon in a position where both his Stark sisters (proclaimed by Arya herself) could easily push him to add details. Jon telling his secret linage to Sansafinger results in more stress between Jon and season 8 Dany as well as Varys getting killed. That is subtle action by Bran, not doing nothing. Bran doesn't defend himself during the battle with the Night King. Instead he prompts Theon Greyjoy to get himself killed when Bran could have easily said nothing or something else to get Theon to hold back a few seconds so Arya could save them both. Thus Bran's actions were part of getting Theon killed. Theon was respectful of Dany and a friend of Sansa's (or Sansafinger). Had Theon lived he may have served as a bridge builder between them thus preventing Sansafinger's actions and making the burning of King's Landing less likely. Bran manipulating others people to their deaths is taking action. There are probably a few details I forgot about at the time of writing this. But the point remains. If one looks at Bran's actions and manipulations a pattern emerges. Bran's actions and manipulations always and only contribute to increasing the odds King's Landing will burn and Bran will become king. Never decreasing those odds. Since Bran told Tyrion "Why do you think I came all this way?" That very strongly indicates Bran planned to become King before he left to come to King's Landing for that meeting. He planned to become King. The only question becomes how early was Bran making plans to be become king and manipulating events to make it happen? The answer seems to be throughout season 8-based on Bran's actions. I think it is possible the show writers (D and D) are so inept they did not even realize they were putting evidence in season 8 that implicates Bran is a manipulative mass murderer. But they did. So even someone wants to take season 8 seriously the evidence is there. An alternative, of course, is not to take season 8 seriously. I recommend that. FYI There is good reason to think D and D broke from GRRM's story. Before they ran out of books they were already doing things that were different from the books. Book Euron and book Tyrion are flat out different characters from show Euron and show Tyrion. GRRM himself has already acknowledged this. With GRRM having left the show years ago and D and D being willing to break from the books even before they ran out of books there is little reason to think they would be unwilling to change things from what GRRM told them even if he told them his actual plans. Strong evidence has come to light that the earlier plans for season 8 itself had wildfire-not 1 dragon without a rest break after it had essentially won 2 battles on its own-be the reason much of King's Landing was wrecked. D and D changed this after season 8 had started being made. This is a major change. So if D and D were willing to make changes to their own plans that were both major and late into things then there is good reason to expect they would make changes from whatever GRRM told them years ago. GRRM may plan on making Bran king if he ever finishes the books. But odds are he will have Bran do something that is important and other people see it as worthwhile. That is not what D and D did. So there is very good reason to expect GRRM's story to be different. And GRRM himself may have book Daenerys die in a way that is heroic or redemptive-perhaps sacrificing herself to help Jon deal with frozen undead. Speaking of the frozen undead-or "Others" as the books refer to the White Walkers-they were early on in the 1st episode of GoT. Perhaps GRRM planned to make them very important from that. So important that the issues relating to them are bigger than and to be resolved after the situation with Cersei in King's Landing is. To sum things up. There are plenty of pieces of evidence in season 8 to argue Bran is manipulating things-including Bran taking action (so it cannot be accurately claimed he is neutral or doing nothing in regards to this). D and D were very willing to make changes to things-so their decisions should not be hidden behind GRRM. And "evil Bran theory" makes season 8 less illogical-not good but less illogical (even if D and D put the evidence for it in season on accident). So if one wants to ignore "evil Bran theory" it is easy to do-just ignore season 8. Season 8 is so detached from and contradicted by GoT seasons 1-7 (for example season 2 clearly said, via Davos, and showed, via events, that bells do not mean surrender in King's Landing) that it arguably should not be considered part of the same story.

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Jesus Christ

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@@KevinPendragon Thank you for reading through it is you did. Also just swear. I believe it is more religiously respectful.

[@leontiatey]

no discussion to be had with you. the whole channel is now just tryna combat dany greatness! every theory is so she can not prosper. so odd

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This video is about a Bran theory

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I hope bran is not the king in the books