BRANDED RULINGS - ILLEGAL PLAYS THAT BLOCK YOUR TOP

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Ruling Quiz Time. Branded. Why your opponent can respond while Branded Lost is face up to your fusion? Why is Ash the best?.. If you don't get a single one of these you'll likely let these illegal plays happen and ruin your topping chances. SHoutouts: gallantron for the Branded Lost breakdown.
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@hunterlandis1656
@hunterlandis1656 2 жыл бұрын
The part about Chimera as CL2 in response to TTT is incorrect. The Natasha ruling that you cited is not applicable here. They are not the same scenario. There are email rulings for TTT and El Shaddoll Construct that say that the person who summons Construct gets the effect. Not the controller. The Natasha ruling is for monsters that are already on the field and are not being triggered by their own movement. There are further rulings with Invoked Augoeides as well that show this.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, could you also provide me a link to a screenshot of the email, i'd like the reference
@babrad
@babrad 8 ай бұрын
​​@@MSTTV1 year later, this was reversed today by addressing directly CL2 IP into SP versus CL1 TTT (take). They further updated the ruling of "Couple of Aces VS Remove Brainwashing" that used to work exactly as the original comment said. TLDR; the current controller (player using TTT) now gets the on summon trigger effect. Tom I hope you address this to give it enough attention because it can be super impactful due to SP's meta relevance. Hopefully we could even get an official response.
@alexlee7668
@alexlee7668 2 жыл бұрын
i like the presentation of this video feels better than watching screenshots of random cards one at a time on a screen
@TheAz0680
@TheAz0680 2 жыл бұрын
Branded lost gives me magical meltdown rulings flashback
@Alex-gw6ie
@Alex-gw6ie 2 жыл бұрын
worst
@AshBash798
@AshBash798 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough I took a judge call that was the Natasha v Chengying ruling verbatim at one of the remote tier 3 events. I officially ruled it as they did so in the ocg, but still suggested to the players to appeal cause of the history of these types of rulings. The head judge came in and overruled it saying the player who summoned the monster would be able to use the effect while citing the masquerena into unicorn v tactics ruling. So yes, please ask a judge or preemptively get the head judge’s insight on this particular ruling!
@luckyilagged2424
@luckyilagged2424 2 жыл бұрын
Im assuming they rruled it the played that summoned unicorn got to trigger the effect not the controller?
@VORTEX___
@VORTEX___ 2 жыл бұрын
that is sad to hear, seems like the same situation and two opposite rulings :(
@koala5232
@koala5232 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to that Masquerena -> Unicorn VS TTT ruling? Thank you in advance.
@AshBash798
@AshBash798 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckyilagged2424 correct
@AshBash798
@AshBash798 2 жыл бұрын
@@koala5232 if you have access to the remote YCS discord it’s under event specific ruling’s. The ip to unicorn ruling has been consistently on there.
@PaladinfffLeeroy
@PaladinfffLeeroy 2 жыл бұрын
The more you learn. I was not aware of the weird "semi" ruling when you take over Chimera mid-chain. Or that the last thing to happen in the previous chain dictates whether Branded Lost/Magical Meltdown is active or not. Good to know in the future when I face those pesky Invoked players that cannot seem to keep their slobber off of my side of the table.
@ShrankTheFirst
@ShrankTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding Chimera, what are the game rules we know that apply? - Cards activate and resolve in the same location. An Effect Veiler discarded from the hand resolves in the hand. A Conquistador banished from the GY resolves in the GY. A Pankratops tributed from the field resolves on the field. Etc. - Cards cannot activate in the middle of a chain resolution. - Cards miss timing with the clause "When... you can...", but "If" clauses activate when possible without missing timing. So, Guardian Chimera says " If this card is Fusion Summoned by a Spell Card or effect: You can draw cards equal to the number of cards used as material from the hand, and if you do, destroy cards your opponent controls equal to the number of cards used as material from the field. " "If" means it won't miss timing. "You" designates the controller of the card when activating the effect. The card text does not specify whose cards were used from the hand and field, just that cards were used as material "from the hand" and "from the field". Chimera could not activate as soon as it was summoned, because Tactics had not resolved yet. The earliest opportunity to activate the effect happens after control of it changes, at which point "You" is designating the current controller, the one who activated the Tactics. Compare to when I Normal Summon Aleister and activate the search effect on summon, and my opponent chains Crackdown. At resolution, he controls my Aleister, but I get the search because the effect was activated on MY side of the field.
@Lgnd_KillrMakoto
@Lgnd_KillrMakoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrankTheFirst That's actually incorrect, it has been decided to be ruled the other way.
@ShrankTheFirst
@ShrankTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lgnd_KillrMakoto Thus, the longstanding tradition of the "because Konami said so" ruling lives on, despite established mechanics indicating otherwise.
@Lgnd_KillrMakoto
@Lgnd_KillrMakoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrankTheFirst wrong, this is not because konami said so, it's been this way going way back. Someone just recently decided to extrapolate a ruling based off of another ruling. Unfortunately that was not the same kind of ruling.
@tiktokexposed898
@tiktokexposed898 Жыл бұрын
@@Lgnd_KillrMakoto how is that incorrect? Chimera effect activates after being taken by tactics
@sepra7262
@sepra7262 2 жыл бұрын
“Hey everybody, this is toombox! And welcome to Duel Academy” If you get most of these questions wrong, you are a slifer slacker.
@TheoJay615
@TheoJay615 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's confusing! Magical Meltdown: > The activation of your cards and effects that include an effect that Fusion Summons a Fusion Monster cannot be negated, also *your opponent's cards and effects cannot activate* when a monster is Fusion Summoned this way Branded Lost: > The activation of your cards and effects that include an effect that Fusion Summons a Fusion Monster cannot be negated, also *your opponent cannot activate cards or effects* when a monster is Fusion Summoned this way.
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that makes a difference, does it?
@zhine354
@zhine354 2 жыл бұрын
@@Boristien405 It doesn't at all xD! It just states that your opponent cannot answer in the Summon Response Window *when* a Fusion monster is Fusion Summoned.
@luckyilagged2424
@luckyilagged2424 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, reading lost feels much better on that slight difference even though it changes nothing
@cshadow20
@cshadow20 2 жыл бұрын
Magical Meltdown and Branded Lost prevents you from negating the Activations of (cards that would perform a fusion summon) and Activations of (effects of cards that would perform a fusion summon). Ash does not negate the activation of the card or activation of the effect, and thus is allowed to stop the Branded fusion or any other fusion card from resolving(except super poly of course).
@michielidema3239
@michielidema3239 2 жыл бұрын
isnt the difference here that your oponents mandatory effects will still be able to trigger with branded lost because it states specifically that your oponent cannot activate versus your oponents cards?
@prettymuchbooks
@prettymuchbooks 2 жыл бұрын
This instructional video is amazing!!! So well done 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@mojo873
@mojo873 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! This is the first one of these where I actually knew all of the rulings correctly!
@oliveascolane1561
@oliveascolane1561 2 жыл бұрын
That brandon skit absolutely killed me. Nice video as always Tombox
@PabloDablo156
@PabloDablo156 2 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this video. I had no idea about the cosmic cyclone interactiom with branded lost question and I guessed on the Chimera and got lucky! Thank you so much for doing these kind of videos. 👍
@TnPGmbH
@TnPGmbH 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get this question. Because I thought the effect of lubellion is a new chain? Because CC already left the field, because it resolved. So basically Branded in Red resolves, then cc goes to the grave and then on a new chain lubellion activates effect when summoned?
@latinoisforeal
@latinoisforeal Жыл бұрын
I still love your videos bro. I remember winning that Fieldcenter card from you a couple years ago. Keep going and keep on pushing ! 😁
@warriorxz1
@warriorxz1 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Good stuff man
@Chupe91
@Chupe91 2 жыл бұрын
This actually helped out a lot, thanks!
@mincereth
@mincereth 2 жыл бұрын
Love these trivia videos. Helps me learn.
@shadowphenix1991
@shadowphenix1991 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video. Thank you!
@tommoex
@tommoex 2 жыл бұрын
The presentation on this was amazing.
@Zef98
@Zef98 2 жыл бұрын
The presentation is amazing thank you 🙏🏿
@edgardoalbo8660
@edgardoalbo8660 2 жыл бұрын
I love this rulling videos. The question No 4 was a surprise
@ratchet9869
@ratchet9869 2 жыл бұрын
While I did know that Lost prevented stuff from chaining after a fusion, I was under the impression the fusion monster's effect would need to be last in the chain if there are multiple chains. This clears that up nicely thanks
@alessandrofranzan6951
@alessandrofranzan6951 2 жыл бұрын
One cool thing is that since mirrorjade has a quick effect, you can actually activate it on summon , preventing the opponent to respond to it under branded lost. All of this because you are activating mirrorjade's effect on summon
@ShrankTheFirst
@ShrankTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
Same interaction as with DPE and Meltdown, which gave rise to a bunch of Destiny Invoked decks a few months back.
@cshadow20
@cshadow20 2 жыл бұрын
This only works if your chaining mirrorjade to a card like Despia tragedy(which most of the time you will) but if u just summon mirrorjade by itself and then say activate mirrorjade it can be responded to. Reason is because the summon window is done as where if u used tragedy for the summon of mirrorjade THAT is during the summon window where u can chain mirrorjade and can’t respond
@ShrankTheFirst
@ShrankTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
@@cshadow20 ... what? Do you understand what the response window is? It includes any quick-effect activated right after the summon of a monster, before the game is in an open state again. Once Mirrojade hits the field, assuming it was a result of a Chain Link 1, all you gotta do is say "In response to the summon of Mirrorjade, I active Mirrojade's effect" and under Branded Lost, your opponent cannot chain anything to that. This is not "Chain Blocking", this is simply using the continuous effect of Branded Lost.
@cshadow20
@cshadow20 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrankTheFirst does mirrorjade effect trigger on summon?
@cshadow20
@cshadow20 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrankTheFirst ask urself that.
@nauticoom
@nauticoom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lessons :) much appreciated
@sunnyilly4444
@sunnyilly4444 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info your video was very informative helpful 👍🏿
@zestyflamingo
@zestyflamingo 2 жыл бұрын
I've been loving this type of content
@icehurricanegaming2978
@icehurricanegaming2978 2 жыл бұрын
I love the set up when explaining
@wiccanjace2540
@wiccanjace2540 2 жыл бұрын
Highkey glad I got all those right. I am so pumped for the Hartford Regional this Saturday!
@magicalibra2049
@magicalibra2049 2 жыл бұрын
Question 4: guardian chimera is an “If” not a “when” so it will activate and resolve its effect but Triple T resolves first and takes control of chimera. Chimera activates it’s effect as a new chain link on the player’s side of the field who took chimera. Therefore allowing the player to reap the benefits of the card.
@jangaman7823
@jangaman7823 2 жыл бұрын
Imo. The effect shouldnt be able to activate at all. Going by banish benten ruling. Not that it leaves the field tho
@Lgnd_KillrMakoto
@Lgnd_KillrMakoto 2 жыл бұрын
It's even a highly controversial ruling on adjudication. Always best to ask the judge for the event.
@zhine354
@zhine354 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lgnd_KillrMakoto Yeah! It is a controversy at the moment. Some judges say that they received an email time ago explaining how the interaction works, but still there's no consensus on whatever it activates on the owner's field or on the new controller's field.
@babrad
@babrad 2 жыл бұрын
@@jangaman7823 But the location (Monster Zone on the FIELD) is still correct, it doesn't matter that it swapped controller. You get a properly fusion summoned Chimera ON THE SUMMON RESPONSE WINDOW, with identifiable materials (no BoM shenanigans) and provided its owner (your opponent) HAS cards on their field and your deck is more than your required draws, you technically check all points of legally activating that effect. On the other hand it makes no sense for your opponent to activate an effect from a card they don't even POSSESS at that point.
@magicalibra2049
@magicalibra2049 2 жыл бұрын
@@babrad correct
@xSacrollyd
@xSacrollyd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom! Overall: 4 / 6 1a. The effect of BF will resolve negated ( o ) 1b. BF will not be negated ( x ) (misread branded lost, damn, i thought its fkn broken) 2. Effect Veiler is only during MP ( o ) 3a. No, you may not react to Lubellion since Branded Lost prevents you from responding to a fusion summon (which in this case the whole chain responds to, sine it was the last thing that happened) ( o ) 3b. Yes, you can respond with Ash and Lance, since the last thing to happen was resolving Cyclone ( o ) 4. The owner of Chimera ( maybe/most likely x )
@cheaterxl243
@cheaterxl243 2 жыл бұрын
That was cool again. Thanks 👍
@domnewman7779
@domnewman7779 2 жыл бұрын
Just had my state championships this past weekend and all of these rulings came up not necessary for me but in the event itself. Luckily I knew all of these interactions before I went into it so I knew all the answers
@leehuntingdon3348
@leehuntingdon3348 Жыл бұрын
i love these videos love you mst keep up the content
@POWERISKING
@POWERISKING 2 жыл бұрын
Like these types of videos very much appreciated
@strikerx-1377
@strikerx-1377 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for info 👍🔥
@yourturn5059
@yourturn5059 2 жыл бұрын
Question 3b was a strange one I had to rewatch it a few times to make sense out of it. So basically always make sure the fusion summon is chain 1 and you'll be safe from interuption! Thanks for the video this was super helpful!👍
@Tarismes
@Tarismes 2 жыл бұрын
I still Dont get it. It is a new chain with lubellion being chain link 1. The cosmic cyclone was another chain. This looks to me like the scenario with questions 3a
@pchau234
@pchau234 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tarismes 1st chain link. The fusion summon happened on CL2 since Branded in Red was used (CL2) in response to Cosmic Cyclone (CL1). Therefore, the summon response window was skipped in this case. Now, the 2nd CL is just a new CL without being associated to any timing.
@KiyoshiKuroi
@KiyoshiKuroi 2 жыл бұрын
Those purple sleeves look SO awesome! Good rulings to know about Branded Lost, because people were even thinking Branded Lost is more oppresive and ban-worthy than Magical Meltdown.
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 2 жыл бұрын
It's basically continuous spell meltdown instead of field spell meltdown
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 2 жыл бұрын
Pending Correction: Guardian Chimera vs TTT. Guardian Chimera is a summon trigger and triggered on the owners side, the summoner of the Guardian Chimera gets to use the trigger no the controller. I am awaiting for someone to post a link to the email reference like Construct to TTT so we can have a more updated precedent otherwise, ask the HJ at the event.
@akaakaakaak5779
@akaakaakaak5779 Жыл бұрын
ye this is why im scared to go to a tournament, I would have no idea about any of this
@teemychow6483
@teemychow6483 11 ай бұрын
I learned a lot of this playing master duel. They have easy to understand rulings and if they get prompted or not. In the Chimera chain, you gain Chimera but none of the effects are on stack anymore because the cards that are used are not the original owner when summon has resolved.
@elBambino714
@elBambino714 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@XGPRO
@XGPRO 2 жыл бұрын
Literally got everything incorrect. Thank you so much for these clarifications!
@PsychoKern
@PsychoKern Жыл бұрын
Bro my head hurts from this. Why can't it be more simple? :/
@ryanterrero951
@ryanterrero951 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@TeamAPS
@TeamAPS 2 жыл бұрын
Really handy!
@squaredravens8004
@squaredravens8004 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance we could get a picture of the cards or just the cards effects somewhere on the screen before you give us the answer? I know what some of the cards do but not exactly how they're worded and I think this would help out those who have never seen/heard of the cards in question.
@thatasianwaiter4559
@thatasianwaiter4559 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile u have them real life players who tries to ignore all of these and play illegally for the win LOL
@cameronwalter5666
@cameronwalter5666 Жыл бұрын
I got Q2 wrong not because I didn't know about Effect Veiler's main phase clause (it's come up a few times in casual play during battle phase) but because I did not know that the phases were not advanced.
@chucklesdeclown8819
@chucklesdeclown8819 Жыл бұрын
This is my thing, if I could just do everything outside of main phase then why is effect veilers even considered a side deck option if the pros can just not announce their phases and get around effect veilers effect. By the very fact he activated opening I would think he advanced the phases without announcing it because if you can so "casually forget" to advance the phases making all effect veilers worthless then that is just stupid. what if you didn't forget and you are doing it on purpose to block effect veiler?
@blinktwice296
@blinktwice296 2 жыл бұрын
“You have 5 seconds to answer the question” *an unskipable 5 second ad plays immediately* Me: Ha! I have 10 seconds now
@ABOUNDTANA
@ABOUNDTANA 2 жыл бұрын
I got all of them except the "call a judge" one 💪
@matteozendri8954
@matteozendri8954 Жыл бұрын
To answer at the 4th question: after TTT resolution chimera don't resolve it's effect (I played this situation many times on Master Duel) and no one draw and destroy cards.
@DigiTism
@DigiTism Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if TTT was a quick play? Even more “What now?!”
@gubigubigubigubi
@gubigubigubigubi 2 жыл бұрын
For question 4 to me it would be the controller gets to use that effect as it didn't activate until its control was switched.
@kylewilliams8644
@kylewilliams8644 2 жыл бұрын
💪💪💪 this is me flexing on you guys XD
@111IronSyde
@111IronSyde 2 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear - now fusion summoning sandwich with branded in red...and attacking directly with it
@TheMatt_SD
@TheMatt_SD 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen people post database entries for the last ruling that contradict the answer you gave. It seems like it's not 100% cleared up, but I think your ruling makes the most sense.
@topsycho4451
@topsycho4451 2 жыл бұрын
There's no reason it should work the way Tom cited, but it's how most judges at higher tier events have been ruling it.
@xDBoomer
@xDBoomer 2 жыл бұрын
For number 4 I thought the effect would just fizzle out because I thought it misses timing but I'm wasn't sure. Like it was summoned but it got stolen and put on your opponents side of the field so the window for activating its effect was shut immediately. Since it was stolen after the summon the effect doesn't trigger properly on either side.
@lordartorias1316
@lordartorias1316 2 жыл бұрын
Question regarding question 3A. Replace Lubellion with Mirrorjade. On summon of Mirrorjade, can you attempt its effect to banish a monster, and the opponent not be allowed to respond due to Branded Lost?
@julveon
@julveon 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the summon is the last to resolve then yes, you can banish without a response.
@VORTEX___
@VORTEX___ 2 жыл бұрын
you are in the Summon response window and you can activate quick effects here. If you activate mirrorjades effect banish effect in the Summon response window, your opponent cannot respond if branded lost applies
@lordartorias1316
@lordartorias1316 2 жыл бұрын
@@VORTEX___ I know you're correct, but I mainly asked because a couple of people at locals won't believe me and think I'm wrong, and refuse to believe anybody unless they are RC-2 judges or higher... pretty ridiculous.
@xSacrollyd
@xSacrollyd 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordartorias1316 Just refer to the fast effect timing chart. There you can clearly see, that after each resolved chain you go through the process of "Does this activate a triggered effect?" No? -> "Turn player can activate fast effect" Pass -> "Opponent can activate fast effect". So if the fusion summon happened at CL1, the quick effect is still responding to the summon. Also, i hope they never have Veilered or Impermed an Accesscode after its ATK gain, since thats the exact same timing ("on resolution") as Mirrorjade in this instance. So if they get that you can respond to ACs resoltuion, then they should also understand that Mirrorjade basically works the same (timing-wise) in this szenario.
@georgegotjokes
@georgegotjokes Жыл бұрын
He just made me more confused than I was before. lol
@WillRennar
@WillRennar 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, with stuff like Branded Lost the last thing _to have resolved_ needs to be a Fusion Summon. 3a: Last thing to resolve was Lubellion's Fusion Summon. Chain lock is ON. 3b: Last thing to resolve was Cosmic Cyclone. Chain lock is OFF.
@jeremiahriley663
@jeremiahriley663 2 жыл бұрын
but wait, by that logic, if i use branded fusion to fusion summon, that is the last thing to resolve on the chain. so my opponent should not be able to ash branded fusion if branded lost is on the board...this is very confusing.
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahriley663 You didn't pay attention to the 2nd question then. And the op comment was wrong as well. In Q 3a, last resolve is Branded in Red, thus enable Lost protection. But in Q 3b, Cosmic Cyclone was last to resolve, thus Lost doesn't protect. Again, Ash negate the Effect, doesn't negates the Activation, that's why Ash can still negate Branded fusion under Lost.
@silentobserver4425
@silentobserver4425 2 жыл бұрын
Oh those purple sleeves are sauce.
@tatiannahazel9031
@tatiannahazel9031 2 жыл бұрын
Branded lost and I quote straight from the card ( the activation of your card and effects that include an effect that fusion summons a fusion monster cannot be negated. Cards activation and effects again and effects that include an effect that fusion summons so what am I missing in your logic ??????????
@Walmartin86
@Walmartin86 2 жыл бұрын
Hey quick question, have you done a video over correctly summoned and and incorrectly summoned monsters? (Ex: trying to reborn a monster sent to grave by dog punishment or similar issue to what I heard happened in ycs charlotte?)
@dragon-id5uj
@dragon-id5uj Жыл бұрын
hey tombox! question here. I went to my first locals in years recently. had destiny hero Plasma on the field among maybe also darklaw. the opp activated branded lost, then summoned albaz and used it's eff. im like "yo, but plasma." "yeah but effects that fusion summon can't be negated." we called the judge, and the judge sided with the branded despia player; i proceeded to mop the floor with them anyway, despite the incorrect ruling. ANYWHO. this was at an actual OTS store. there was only one staff member there, in the judge role. Is there anything we, the playerbase, can do to put judges who rule incorrectly in check? is there some system to report a judge who incorrectly judges? seeing as there was no 'higher judge' than them, what can be done?
@Dabs_cards
@Dabs_cards 2 жыл бұрын
Branded is dope ! … I have a Dino scythe lock 4 negate video
@jonouaknine2205
@jonouaknine2205 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like KZbinr mercy usually but your sleeves are fire bro. Good shit
@yserareborn
@yserareborn 2 жыл бұрын
Tombox: *Incredibly niche ruling question* What is your response? Me, an intellectual: Ask a judge. Tombox: You... pass every one of these videos for the rest of time. Congratulations! Me: ;u;
@WillRennar
@WillRennar 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding Guardian Chimera in Q4: "You" refers to the card's current controller at the moment the effect activates, and "your opponent" refers to the opponent of the player who controls it. Example: I Special Summon Silent Wobby to your field via its effect. Its on-Summon effect activates on your side of the field. _You,_ Wobby's controller, draw the card, and _your opponent,_ i.e. _me,_ gains 2000 LP. During your Main Phase: You can Special Summon this card from your hand to your opponent's side of the field. *When Summoned this way: Draw 1 card, and if you do, your opponent gains 2000 Life Points.* You can only use this effect of "Silent Wobby" once per turn. The hand size limit of this card's controller becomes 3. In the same way, Guardian Chimera's on-Summon effect activates on the bottom player's field, so _they_ get the draw and card-destruction effect because, as Chimera's current controller, the "you" in its effect text refers to them. 3 monsters with different names Must first be Fusion Summoned using only Fusion Materials from your hand and field, with at least 1 monster from each. *If this card is Fusion Summoned by a Spell Card or effect: You can draw cards equal to the number of cards used as material from the hand, and if you do, destroy cards your opponent controls equal to the number of cards used as material from the field.* You can only use this effect of "Guardian Chimera" once per turn. While "Polymerization" is in your GY, your opponent cannot target this card with card effects.
@JuanTau333
@JuanTau333 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Does anyone else think its easier to say “the FIRST thing that occurred was cosmic cyclone”. ??
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
Well a chain doesn't resolve like that. Yes it's Chain Link 1 but it was the last to resolve. If saying First to occurred was Cyclone than that mean Branded in Red is last, that would prompt Lost to protect, but it doesn't.
@williamgonzalez2846
@williamgonzalez2846 2 жыл бұрын
People may like or dislike Master Duel but the duel tracks are 🔥.
@Dylligraphy
@Dylligraphy 2 жыл бұрын
Amen especially the Monarch one
@metroacecards8475
@metroacecards8475 2 жыл бұрын
Ace'd it 🙏🏼🍻
@christianduring2095
@christianduring2095 2 жыл бұрын
nice explanation, one last question, if my opponent has Branded lost and Albion on the field and activates the effect from Albion to fusion summon a Mirrorjade, can i chain effect veiler to negate the effects of Albion?
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
Watch the video again please. Depends, before Albion hit the field, what was the last effect to resolve on the chain? If if it's not a Fusion summon effect that bring out Albion, they can chain Veiler, if it was an effect that bring out Albion, no they can't.
@theroyalaustralian
@theroyalaustralian Ай бұрын
Ash is actually supposed to do nothing as the effects of cards that include Fusion Summon in their effects cannot be negated either according to Branded Lost rulings.
@Dinosaurman34
@Dinosaurman34 2 жыл бұрын
So does Branded Lost only provide protection if the last thing that occurred in a chain was a fusion summon?
@deruneldembal5048
@deruneldembal5048 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@saddesert6599
@saddesert6599 2 жыл бұрын
Great KZbin channel
@Benjamin_w02
@Benjamin_w02 2 жыл бұрын
Does the search effect of branded lost activate in the same chain as lubellion being summoned and activated, and thus can’t be responded to? Or does it trigger in a new chain, me and my friend had this problem yesterday
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 2 жыл бұрын
Branded Lost happens in the same chain
@sentasuS049
@sentasuS049 Жыл бұрын
there is alot here so sorry but do please read through as about half are references! quick question for 1a & 1b, How is Ash Blossom even able to chain to Branded fusion in the first place? nowhere on branded fusion does it's "effect" send cards from the deck to the GY (the reason it's able to be played under Macro Cosmos) and "Ash Blossom" specifically states it can only be activated against cards where the "effect" includes sending from the deck to the GY (in addition to Draw or summon from deck, but those are not relevant here) Branded Fusion: "Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster that mentions "Fallen of Albaz" as material from your Extra Deck, using 2 monsters from your hand, Deck, or field as Fusion Material. You cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck, except Fusion Monsters, the turn you activate this card. You can only activate 1 "Branded Fusion" once per turn." again, nowhere does it include the effect of sending cards from the deck to the GY! if it was part of the effect to directly send to the GY as effect than it would not be able to play under effects like Macro Cosmos as by ruling Macro Cosmos prevents cards from being sent to the GY (from anywhere) by Effect or Game State Action! Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring: "When a card or effect is activated that includes any of these effects (Quick Effect): You can discard this card; negate that effect. ● Add a card from the Deck to the hand. ● Special Summon from the Deck. ● Send a card from the Deck to the GY. You can only use this effect of "Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring" once per turn." literally first part of the effect of "Ash Blossom" states that "Includes any of these Effects" polymerization ruling on Macro Cosmos: Macro Cosmos: You can still activate cards like "Polymerization" or "Power Bond" and Fusion Summon while the effect of "Macro Cosmos" is active and removing from play the Fusion Material Monsters instead of having them sent to the Graveyard. If "Polymerization" is activated while "Macro Cosmos" is active, then the Fusion Material Monsters to be sent to the Graveyard will be removed from play instead, and the Fusion Monster will still be Fusion Summoned from the Extra Deck. Foolish Burial: (going simplistic here) "Send 1 monster from your Deck to the GY." this can bechained by "Ash Blossom" as it's effect states to send directly from the deck to the GY and for the same reason "Macro Cosmos" also prevents/negates it
@MSTTV
@MSTTV Жыл бұрын
Branded fusion is simple. Cards being sent from Deck to GY is a almost like the blanket statement. As long as the deck effect would turn into the action of sending a card from deck to GY on resolution, it counts. Even if macro Cosmos was on the field it wouldn't change that. In a regular game state, if macro was up, and someone tried foolish burial, they would still be able to Ash. Because foolish's effect is to send to GY, although it landed in the GY, the car effect naturally would be sending it to the GY. The card text never changed, only the game state. When cards are used a fusion material, their default is that they are sent to GY as fusion material. That it a thing that happens on resolution. If there is the possibility that are card will end up in the GY on resolution (not on activation), then ash would be applicable.
@kesis7586
@kesis7586 5 ай бұрын
Hey, cool vid but I have a question about example 3b. Does this mean that if Lubellion's effect was a "when" instead of an "if", then it would miss timing to activate it's own on-summon effect?
@galaxy-eyesknight4056
@galaxy-eyesknight4056 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people in the despia group need to see this
@ClassicDura
@ClassicDura 2 жыл бұрын
My Rulling for the Chimera would be that the person in control of it get's to use the effect because there isn't any "Your" hand or field, but it States "The" hand or field.
@Yoshi5621
@Yoshi5621 2 жыл бұрын
So not sure if this was answered but if they have branded lost and they fuse and activate effect can you use effect veiler?
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
No. After they fuse and whatever hit the field, they are in the Fusion Summon"ed" window, of which you can't respond because Lost preventing it.
@Gamma_n5
@Gamma_n5 2 жыл бұрын
I looooove the Octopath OST in the background 🥰
@ericrossier8853
@ericrossier8853 2 жыл бұрын
Is the chimera really going to activate since he s not in the area he was summoned like the benten dd crow
@BinjinTheBackup
@BinjinTheBackup 2 жыл бұрын
The last one is just like a knoghtmare unicorn ruling when stolen
@rkoger5335
@rkoger5335 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Tom ❤️✌️
@federicomessaggi646
@federicomessaggi646 2 жыл бұрын
can i use crossout declaring branded fusion on the activation of my opponent branded fusione while he control branded lost?
@dinormisimus2138
@dinormisimus2138 Жыл бұрын
Yea it says you negate effect, activated eff and effs of cards with same original name, it doesnt say that you negate activation
@pasce2154
@pasce2154 2 жыл бұрын
is it correct that the effect of the fuison summend must be chain 1? because we have the discusion if the Fusionmonster effect is for example chain2 then my opponent can chain to my fusion summoned monster. if branded lost is active
@jeremiahriley663
@jeremiahriley663 2 жыл бұрын
in order for branded lost to protect your fusion summon, the last action that needs to occure in a previous chain needs too be a fusion summon. so on the next chain, your opponent cannot respond too the lubellion on the next chain. because the last action that occured at that moment after branded in red resolves was the fusion summon. therefore your oppoinent cannot respond too any other fusion effects. so in the caseof using branded fusion to summon albion, branded fusion would be your last chance to respond before branded lost protects your fusion effects.
@uncleboby5952
@uncleboby5952 2 жыл бұрын
Does branded lost lock your opponent activating cards or effects if a monster is fusion summoned as long as it's on the field?
@xatuyou8045
@xatuyou8045 2 жыл бұрын
I knew the triple tactics talent ruling from masquerena.
@trig8364
@trig8364 2 жыл бұрын
yeah idk about all that cosmic cyclone stuff, you even said it yourself lubellion is now a new chain.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 2 жыл бұрын
Basically just ask yourself what was the last thing that happened, that is ur timing window to see if u are allowed to respond.
@koala5232
@koala5232 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the last ruling with Triple Tactics Talent, can you please link the Database ruling? For some reason I recall a different precedent where if you TTT and they chain Masquerena to summon Unicorn, they (the player who summoned the Knightmare Unicorn) still get to activate and resolve the effect of Unicorn, and not the new controller.
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 2 жыл бұрын
for DB TRANSLANTED: db.ygorganization.com/qa#23349 OCG: www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=23349&keyword=&tag=-1&request_locale=ja
@MSTTV
@MSTTV 2 жыл бұрын
Like I said in the video: this one is flip floppy. ASk a judge because the HJ is in control. We have a database ruling but TCg sometime be like that.
@koala5232
@koala5232 2 жыл бұрын
@@MSTTV Thank you very much
@arogen01
@arogen01 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question which wasn't on the vid. If branded lost is on the field and you activate lubellion and my opponent activates ghost belle & huanted mansion, is lubellion negated or does it go through?
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
It goes through, they can't even active cards or effect. "also your opponent cannot activate cards or effects when a monster us Fusion Summon this way"
@donnelleraeburn9207
@donnelleraeburn9207 2 жыл бұрын
1:44 i chain gamma summon and synchro with psy frame spell into an psy frame omega to banish from there hand
@chungtak1388
@chungtak1388 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if you activate lubellions effect and the opponent activates their mirrorjade effect to banish it? Will the lubellion still resolve its effect to fuse even if banished? I thought it would because it has no requirement to be on field like shaurig but a friend said on edopro it didnt work so thats the ruling he used against me but i feel like that’s incorrect and something else must of happened to him in the game?..
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
It still work, Lubellion on activation scan field, grave and banished pile to make sure the effect can be resolved. Om resolution, once Lubellion is banished by Mirrorjade, its Lubellion turn to resolve it's effect, reshuffle back like normal.
@RushSteel
@RushSteel 2 жыл бұрын
Amount of people I caught trying to normal summon effect after rite or rite after using normal eff
@raj73ist
@raj73ist 10 ай бұрын
This video name should be things to checkout while playing Darren ryal
@YogiLocz
@YogiLocz Жыл бұрын
If my opponent has Number 41: Bagooska and necrovalley up and I play branded lost then I play branded fusion, does the bagooska stop my albion or Lubellion fusion even though I have branded lost up? Also does necrovalley prevent me from using Albion/ Lubellion fusion effect even if I have branded lost?
@j-soulfilms
@j-soulfilms Жыл бұрын
When I ash blossom the branded fusion. Does the branded fusion needs to send the fusion materials to the gy and then it's negate?
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
No. The send to GY is not a cost, they can't send anything if Ash negate it.
@alexthiessen7454
@alexthiessen7454 5 ай бұрын
Woulda went 4-0 with branded lost in Calgary if I had this video handy. 3rd-4th best card in deck I’ve found after some experience
@HarpieSummers
@HarpieSummers Жыл бұрын
What are some common cards that branded lost stop? Does the wording have to be like “when your opponent activates a card; negate IT”?
@jojomations2596
@jojomations2596 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know you can activate branded opening during the draw phase. THAT sounds illegal
@kennethgardner5495
@kennethgardner5495 2 жыл бұрын
A question on the Branded Opening/Effect Veiler ruling: Branded Opening is a quick play, and can be activated in the draw/standby phase to avoid Veiler? Is that the correct ruling here?
@neocheeseandthesix9013
@neocheeseandthesix9013 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah basically. I go on draw phase to activate opening to discard and special Aluber. Aluber eff activates on the draw phase. Veiler can’t negate because it can only negate during the opponent’s main phase in which it cannot because it’s draw phase.
@ElvisB.
@ElvisB. 2 жыл бұрын
Ya do it in draw almost always to play around effect veiler and droll.
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElvisB. same with if we are on turn 3 or 4 or whatever with Branded in Red to play around a card like TTT who also requires a particular phase.
@warriorofgod2700
@warriorofgod2700 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoopTCG quickplay spells can be played during any phase as long as you can meet the requirements (or if your opponent has passed his turn player priority if it isn't your turn)
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