What’s funny is AI is one of the few old heads that does nothing but complement the newer generation of NBA players
@nevohyams3 ай бұрын
that's how we gotta be when we witness new generations emerge. can't be stuck in the past and resent younger people
@simple456793 ай бұрын
AI got nothing but respect for the new guys. Catch AI talk about luka
@robbiedontmiss3 ай бұрын
@@simple45679 he even said Kyrie has the best handles he's ever seen
@bones31423 ай бұрын
@@robbiedontmiss I’ve never heard him talk down on these current players. I’ve heard him call MJ, Bron, and Kobe the goat. Seems like an awesome guy
@nigodemoscarfo31493 ай бұрын
He also thinks he can average 40 today
@stayfly683 ай бұрын
Lol they thought that we done with the 90’s shit wasn’t going to catch up to them 😂😂😂
@YEGGS_13 ай бұрын
Late 90s is basically like most of the 2000s, most players who hit their peak in the 2000s played partially in the 90s, AI, Timmy D, Shaq, Kobe, KG, Ray Allen etc all played in the Mid-Late 90s.
@michaelmayers36223 ай бұрын
90s are done grown man talking
@HarshanSandhu-c4r3 ай бұрын
the logical conclusion to this that we all deserve is WE DONE WITH THE 10'S and start talking about how steph and lebron couldnt do it in 2024😂😂
@stayfly683 ай бұрын
@@HarshanSandhu-c4r lmfao
@bibinmohanan31173 ай бұрын
@@michaelmayers3622 People talking about 90s are more grown than you lil man
@tthadream20213 ай бұрын
McCants talks so much about “who’s in your era?” When he barely had an era to claim
@ld13303 ай бұрын
As petty and dramatic as mccants is sometimes dude has more right to speak on this than 99.9 of the population. He played 3 seasons in the nba and was an incredible college/highscool player. I do think he has a lot of bullshit takes but Gil’s arena is entertainment first
@marcusht73523 ай бұрын
@@ld1330nba players can be fucking stupid, just because they played in the league doesn’t make them more qualified to make takes than anyone else
@Geraldamya3 ай бұрын
@@ld1330he dont have the right to speak about nba basketball at all ESPECIALLY when it comes to 2010 era players tf😂nd he has no era u cant have a era nd only played 5 seasons nd only had 2 seasons of 75+ games😂dude is ass nd no better than anyone outside the nba nd most the shii he say is literally incorrect which is y 99% of the time hes on the show hes the butt of the joke
@unclemurdaa3 ай бұрын
Mcants such a clown he got cut after 3 years cuz he was horrible dudes best szn was 08 right before he got cut where he averaged 9/1/1 a game and shot 39% from the field he was never good enough to be a athlete cuz hes too unserious
@antant9083 ай бұрын
No funny
@stayfly683 ай бұрын
2000’s aren’t that far removed from the 90’s 😂😂😂
@joeyjackson50753 ай бұрын
Both would get smoked by todays pistons
@von16263 ай бұрын
@@joeyjackson5075nahhh
@von16263 ай бұрын
@@joeyjackson5075pistons are bad bad.I can name a few teams from the 2000s that’s bussing they ass.NOW THE 90’s you may be right 😂
@ownlanedavo11673 ай бұрын
The 90s not too far from the 80s😳😂
@gullzr54103 ай бұрын
80s not too far from the 70s
@alexsmith35983 ай бұрын
I don't get how AI became a 40 point quintouple double shooting 400% from the field and 9,000% from 3 with a 99% free throw to keep it humble and realistic.
@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan86403 ай бұрын
Lol Right…
@aaronsanders41223 ай бұрын
“Aura”
@Kuroganemk23 ай бұрын
yeah his FG was 42%, people talking that he would magicaly start shooting 60% against guards that are faster now. People also forget that he averaged like 42 minutes per game where most people go for 36, if you scale down his minutes, his points go down lol
@official_ny_kings76743 ай бұрын
@@Kuroganemk2add context he was guarded by the entire opposing team
@Fearseblack3 ай бұрын
@@official_ny_kings7674 bro people didnt watch AI, they just got by stats. I hate this era
@javenwilliams98753 ай бұрын
Gil really said Steph wasn't fast, I think Dellavedova would beg to differ. 😂
@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan86403 ай бұрын
Cus Delly almost died lol
@datbo1jay13 ай бұрын
The best defenders at the guard position would be to differ 😂
@limitedbom22063 ай бұрын
Having to keep up with someone, and having to fight through a ton of screens are two completely different things. Steph isn’t slow, but anyone is hard to catch when they come off like 3 screens.
@TrojanBOY903 ай бұрын
No way yall think Steph is as fast as AI lol wtf
@datbo1jay13 ай бұрын
@@limitedbom2206 idk that’s js called playing off ball, something half the superstars in the league get to gassed to do, if it was as simple as you try to make it then everyone would do it and ppl would stop it but curry js is fast and has crazy stamina to run up and down past those screens consistently every game
@ChrisJoestarr3 ай бұрын
The AI conversation is so weird cuz if u dont say hes Michael Jordan on steroid and he would average 40 today u get cooked like when did he became the goat?
@silversoulken3 ай бұрын
As a younger guy that grew up on old hoops, oldheads are VERY protective of a lot of all time caliber players who didn’t achieve too much compared to their peers. I see it a lot with T-Mac, and I fw him
@malikjackson68663 ай бұрын
It’s alot of old heads favorite player and they over hype his talent due to the overall effect he had on the league. Face of the league level stardom but never the results.
@CMXR3 ай бұрын
niggas saw him do one crossover on mike and got crowned into conversations he shouldn’t be in
@jaridatkinson49073 ай бұрын
AI is so overrated it's crazy
@gordobeenballin98263 ай бұрын
@@silversoulkenman I grew up as the biggest AI fan and he not even in my personal top 10 now and I’m 28 they just being dumb biased lol
@ns4lsb4553 ай бұрын
Bj was on the right side but he can’t debate
@r.lr.l3 ай бұрын
Yeah AI really shouldn't be in convos with Steph he's probably closer to Jalen Brunson or Kyrie
@tregordon213 ай бұрын
And mccants can? 🤣
@psychedelicvault69513 ай бұрын
@@r.lr.l Allen Iverson was drafted in the 90s and has 4 scoring titles but you comparing Jalen Brunson to him? You trippin.
@Keezeey3 ай бұрын
@@psychedelicvault6951yeah Jalen Brunson is an absurd comparison 😂😂😂 but I will say he’s not better than Steph for sure and Kyrie is definitely his closest comparison
@psychedelicvault69513 ай бұрын
@@Keezeey These bums were born in like 2003 to 2005 and think they basketball gurus but they just say braindead stuff like a bunch of bots. 😂😂😂
@teal29133 ай бұрын
When Curry missed the playoffs in 2021 he had a 37-26 record in the games he played. When he missed the playoffs this year the warriors went 46-36. Hes also 36 this year what was AI doing at 36. Teams in the East were making the playoffs with a .500 record in that era. The missing the playoffs argument is pathetic.
@milesaheadpodcast3 ай бұрын
Not to mention in 2020 he broke his hand. His injuries in 2021 which the went 2-7 without which cost him a higher seed and it was the first time the play-in was implemented. They was the 8th seed.
@yahiaali40593 ай бұрын
@@milesaheadpodcastthe only offensive help he had that year was consistent help was wiggins giving them 20 a game.
@BlackSheep7033 ай бұрын
Not to mention he has to contend with the 2nd or 3rd best player playing the fool (Draymond, and yes its debatable whether he's the third or fourth best).
@BC21beats3 ай бұрын
Sub 500
@DreDaDon163 ай бұрын
Curry got put in a straight jacket by a MF who lost his spot in the Lakers rotation Vanderbilt had his ass on Timeout for 6 games
@robbiedontmiss3 ай бұрын
So by their argument, is AI better than Magic Johnson because AI averaged more points and took a worse team to the finals? Is AI better than Michael Jordan because MJ had hall of famers on his team? This argument is so mickey
@itsmeflacko16183 ай бұрын
Ur making a false equivalency
@hachiuram3 ай бұрын
@@itsmeflacko1618that allen iverson team in the west at literally any point in time is losing in the first round
@itsmeflacko16183 ай бұрын
@@hachiuram agreed but we're talking about his Philly team
@isaakfrmla3 ай бұрын
@@hachiuramlol they probably wouldn’t even make the playoffs😂
@eleonarcrimson8583 ай бұрын
A false equivalency to what@@itsmeflacko1618
@DaLockedOne3 ай бұрын
I’m even mad for Brandon cuz Gil and Shad be yapping too mf much
@mikemars78883 ай бұрын
Loved how he skipped over klay being 47% from 3 avg 16 a game to try n make a point that klay wasn't help in 2013 😂😂😂
@davidrobinson19293 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@eghoseisiramen18923 ай бұрын
As a second player? Rlly Brutha? 16 points a game???
@MasteRgamer-mk5bp3 ай бұрын
@@eghoseisiramen1892 he was the third option
@laduaggrey88243 ай бұрын
@@eghoseisiramen1892bro in 2013 cp3 and Chris’s bosh were avg 16 ppg it wasn’t like it is today that was more than ight back then
@simple456793 ай бұрын
You need more help in a tough conference, simple as that. Compare 2013 OKC and Spurs to 2001 Nets and Pacers.
@malikjackson68663 ай бұрын
Old heads always bring up philly AI and the lack of help in 01 but NEVER mention Denver or the second half of AIs career.
@bebehillz3 ай бұрын
detroit allen iverson vs 2022 steph curry who wins 😭😭😭😭
@justanobody03 ай бұрын
AI spent 10 years in Philly from 21 to 31, if AI's best years were in Philly why wouldn't they mention Philly Allen Iverson
@bebehillz3 ай бұрын
because the new heads are so used to people jumping around from team to team by like year 5 that when they look back and see that ai was on philly from age 21 to age 31 before going to denver and retiring at 34... is that really "second half" for reference kyrie RIGHT NOW is age 31... can you imagine if kyrie stayed in cleveland all the way up to TODAY???
@yunqinjay98033 ай бұрын
@@justanobody0it’s not them bringing up Philly it’s them not bringing up his Denver years
@sa92453 ай бұрын
AI got bounced in the first round in his two seasons with Denver (age 31 and 32). Billups made the ECF both those seasons (age 30 and 31). They get traded. Denver with Billups made the WCF (age 32) and AI didn't finish his season under questionable circumstances.
@RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu3 ай бұрын
I grew up watching ball in that 2000s era. The fact that AI could get his team to the finals proves the East was ass.
@jaridatkinson49073 ай бұрын
Bucks got robbed anyways 76ers shouldn't have even been in the finals
@jayremi7553 ай бұрын
The east has always been ass. It was ass also when LeBron went to 9 straight finals or whatever it was. At least AI's team wasn't stacked in comparison to the rest of the east like Lebron.
@randyscavage3 ай бұрын
@@jayremi755 Damn, if only those other teams had Dellavadova and Mozgov, so stacked
@jayremi7553 ай бұрын
@@randyscavage oh congratulations, you named some rotation pieces. How bout you start at the top dumbass? Dwade, Bosh, Kyrie, K Love.
@jayremi7553 ай бұрын
@@randyscavage you just named two rotation guys lol. How bout you stop coping and start at the top? Dwade, Bosh, Kyrie, K Love etc.
@evanmcclure62123 ай бұрын
As soon as they said Steph Curry doesn't get triple and quadruple teamed, I couldn't take anything else they are saying about AI seriously
@seanbaby10603 ай бұрын
Ong I’ve seen that man get tripled team multiple time😭
@parkyawhip2233 ай бұрын
All curry do is run around screens bro
@evanmcclure62123 ай бұрын
@@parkyawhip223 1. If you think that you need to open your eyelids when you watch him play. 2. Even if that was true, he even gets doubled and tripled OFF SCREENS. People like KEVIN DURANT were dunking WIDE OPEN just because Curry got DOUBLED off of a screen.
@legenddaryl5372 ай бұрын
@@evanmcclure6212 how can you argue against a hater.. @parkyawhip dont even watch curry games.. he too salty the dude might die from kidney failure
@evanmcclure62122 ай бұрын
@legenddaryl537 Some people just can't see the blatantly obvious until someone spells it out for them. Everyone learns differently 😂
@Asap7503 ай бұрын
The 2001 sixers had the dpoy, roty, mvp and coty. They weren't as bad as they were made
@justanobody03 ай бұрын
I didn't think they were a bad team, Shaq was a monster for Dikembe, and Todd MacCollough to deal with tho they were a defensive team I actually didn't watch the 04 Finals, because Larry Brown was the coach of the 76ers in 01, and with the Pistons being another Larry Brown coached defensive team and the Lakers were touted all season long, as a more star laden version of the Lakers with Karl Malone and Gary Payton added to the roster I genuinely believed the Pistons couldn't win
@cameronmcmaster3 ай бұрын
They had Theo Ratliff who probably would have gotten dpoty if he didnt get injured They were mainly predicated on defense 5th in defensive rating
@jaridatkinson49073 ай бұрын
They were pretty much all defense
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
They weren't. People just don't respect defense. That had a hall of fame coach, an mvp, a 6th man, and Def player in the same year. Why wouldn't they make the finals? 🙄
@lenfer16073 ай бұрын
Aaron Mckie wasnt that good though. But AI carried the offense and the rest of the team was goated on defense.
@patrick05Morgan3 ай бұрын
We need to stop acting like the warriors’ dynasty and championship success wasn’t predicated on the unique dominance of Steph. You can’t complain about Steph’s help, when he’s the reason the team works at all.
@Thedeso182 ай бұрын
For some reason Steph is knocked for having good teammates like every other great in NBA 💀
@HennyEditz_3 ай бұрын
Why r we penalizing Curry?? He's just using what was given to him. AI used what was given to him, Curry was just put into the more fortunate situation, even then. If we're talking abt individual play WHY are we bringing up the team around em?? It's just makes no sense to me.
@robbiedontmiss3 ай бұрын
And they keep saying, "if you take off Klay and Draymond, he's not making it that far", but if you take off Mutumbo ( the guy who made an all NBA team the very next year at 35),Theo Ratliff (an all star that year) and Aaron Mickey(sixth man of the year that year ), AI is not making the finals either.
@dereklouther93723 ай бұрын
@@robbiedontmissSteph curry is starting to enter Bron levels of slander and penalizing lol
@drzcrazd3 ай бұрын
even then the warriors were not doing werent doing anything until steph got drafted and they got a superstar and a leader.
@Kuroganemk23 ай бұрын
@@robbiedontmiss If you take off Pippen Jordan not winning even 1 lol Yeah, this makes no sense.
@fordanaeuxx3 ай бұрын
@@robbiedontmissthe year klay was out and he missed 8 games, they still were the 8th seed had there not been a play in tournament. He had them 4th or 3rd that year before his injury in Houston. Thats how good he was. His team was him oubre wiggins (pre 2022) draymond looney bazemore jta brad Wanamaker James wiseman Eric paschall. 4 players aren’t in the nba rn and there were no all stars on that team. Took that team to 3rd place in the west before injury.
@goatbrook90653 ай бұрын
Both sides were saying dumb shit
@alexsmith35983 ай бұрын
Typical Gil Arena. They just say dumb shit 24/7.
@SagaTheFunniest3 ай бұрын
Brandon Jennings told no lies
@MrJackoboyd3 ай бұрын
I had to stop watching cause if that just straight yaps
@TrojanBOY903 ай бұрын
@@SagaTheFunniestlol so the 2000s was trash ?! Tim Duncan; KG; (I’m not even bringing up the Lakers) Paul Pierce were trash…. Tim Duncan was so trash he kept Bron from winning lol
@thewriter87623 ай бұрын
@@TrojanBOY90but for Mccants to be slobbing on the 2000s as if the 2010s isn’t the most skilled era is nuts. He brought up “these are legends” as if KD, Russ, Harden, etc… aren’t gonna get in. I grew up in the 2000s but no one is saying Vince or T Mac was better than Harden and somehow Harden made it farther than them in the playoffs. BJ made a point of weak east and he’s right. The teams you’re going against is dog water. Even though it’s tough, it’s not gonna mean you’ll win against the best team. Lebron went through that in 2018. Back then, the floor was lower for players. That’s why when you look at era’s like the 90s and the 00s, you say these random ass names and it seems bad. And Gil said take away one of them and they are trash. They won a chip with a Klay coming off injury, a Dray that was far removed from his greatness, and players that were role players they drafted in the last two years or castaways.
@BaithNa3 ай бұрын
Jennings is right though, the east was incredibly weak the year Iverson made it to the finals, thats why he never got to another finals with better players around him. That Sixers team wouldn't make it out of the first round if they were in the west during the 2010's. Steph also changed the geometry of basketball on every level from high school to the pros. That's only been done by Wilt so Steph is definitely top 10 and he has the accolades to back it up.
@puncho87993 ай бұрын
So can we say the same thing about all the times that LeBron made it to the finals? 🤔
@vaudou_3 ай бұрын
Not only was the East weak but the NBA manipulated the series against the Bucks to get Ai to the finals in the first place. They thought it would be better for ratings to have Ai there instead of Ray Allen even though Milwaukee was the better team.
@nvs66073 ай бұрын
@@puncho8799when someone does it 8 years in a row that’s not even an excuse anymore . . And I think that 2018 team LeBron took there disproves it too
@HoodedAlchemy3 ай бұрын
I went through the East in the 2000s last night it was so bad I think people forget in 2008 The Warriors won 48 games and missed the playoffs while AI and the Pistons won 38 and made it in the East
@PepeAgain10253 ай бұрын
Yeah I totally agree Steph has changed the game to what it currently is now you see people run small ball lineups in order to create pace and shoot transition threes that's all because of Steph's play style and having to keep up with the warriors when they were on hot streak shooting. They were comparing Steph to Trae Young or Dame but none of those guys have impacted with the same style as much as what Steph has sure Damian Lillard has the range but he hasn't done it over consistent period of years nor was he the one that changed the game. Credit to Jennings for standing on business, we're not going to act like AI doesn't deserve respect because he totally does but he was not quintuple doubles like Gil was suggesting.
@jasonhernandez1283 ай бұрын
BJ talking real reckless as if he wouldn't have been Ty Lue getting stepped over by AI. That playoff run alone he had 14 30+ point games. 6 40+ point games and 2 50 balls. Still balled out against the only 2 good players according to him Kobe/Shaq
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
Maybe, but let's not act like he wouldn't have given Iverson the same business.
@parkyawhip2233 ай бұрын
@@younglove3362cap Jennings not fuccin wit a.i
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
@parkyawhip223 Cap on your cap. AI not touching Jennings. Goes both ways.
@jasonhernandez1283 ай бұрын
@younglove3362 there are a few current players that I can't deny could but BJ? Never lol
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
@jasonhernandez128 Jennings was no slouch. He sounds crazy 🤪 when he talks (though it's mostly confidence) but you act like AI was an outstanding defender. BJ is crossing up AI and scoring on him at the other basketball 🏀. Iverson might do it more, but AI ain't containing BJ, not alone at least.
@JayyBanks3 ай бұрын
People romanticize these older stars way too much. AI wasn’t nearly as good as Curry, I’m sorry.
@puncho87993 ай бұрын
Or could it be this era is being prisoner of the moment
@Equilyzr3 ай бұрын
@@puncho8799Curry > AI
@VikCain3 ай бұрын
AI was way cool. Curry is better at basketball.
@puncho87993 ай бұрын
@@Equilyzr AI > Curry
@Equilyzr3 ай бұрын
@@puncho8799 wrong
@jmad013 ай бұрын
Why is it nobody talks about the fact that AI COULDN'T play with other scorers that's why Philly had to surround him with players who didn't ask for shots.
@tdmidas2893 ай бұрын
This is a false narrative Philly was just cheap. Ai passed the ball just as good.
@Augrills3 ай бұрын
@@tdmidas289 6.2 assists a game for his career
@Blannibal3113 ай бұрын
NBA debates are literal hell. When someone tells me an opinion at this point, no matter how absurd it is....I just nod along.
@justunreal_3 ай бұрын
They really powerscaling nba players 😭
@D1_hater-63 ай бұрын
It's becoming anitok at this point 💀
@vincentflannigan27273 ай бұрын
Early 00s had the ugliest offense even worse than 90s
@BC21beats3 ай бұрын
Pure ball hogging iso bullshit or slow post ups. Growing up playing in this era was the worst because every coach wanted the big kid to be the next Shaq or Tim Duncan and there was always at least one kid who thought he was kobe and would take contested fades
@psychedelicvault69513 ай бұрын
We done with you bozos diminishing eras that built the NBA to what it is today. Y'all love weaker defense, flopping, and deckstacking in this era though.
@BC21beats3 ай бұрын
@@psychedelicvault6951 Tired of you idiots diminishing newer players. Acting like people are getting worse at the game than better smh. Idolizing terrible eras while tearing down the evolution on the game.
@vincentflannigan27273 ай бұрын
@@psychedelicvault6951 You really gonna tell me the early 00s offense was good?
@crablord79343 ай бұрын
@@psychedelicvault6951the real bozos are the ones who think 00s wasn't the era with the most self sabotaging philosophy on offense (excluding a few teams)
@ASal-co2gv3 ай бұрын
McCants just be talking too much for somebody not even averaging above 10 points most of his career and not even playing for a whole decade 💀
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
He made it to the NBA. More bragging rights for him to talk than any of us.
@sidneygarcia75263 ай бұрын
U acting like BJ got any room to talk 😂😂😂
@jahkrmusic3 ай бұрын
@@sidneygarcia7526 He does. At least in Milwaukee he does. He was a BIG culture shift for us back then. We lost Ray Allen, then Michael Redd, so we missed having a scoring guard and Brandon gave us hope. He was like our Jeremy Lin. Don't let this new Bucks success that Giannis built fool you, we had some dark times too. We needed any momentum we could get back then.
@sidneygarcia75263 ай бұрын
@@jahkrmusic nah facts I know about the Ray Allen Glenn Robinson era as well as the Michael Redd era. But let’s be honest BJ was a kinda of a disappointment in Milwaukee bro. Yeah he had some highlight reel moments but bro was an inefficient scoring guard that couldn’t guard nobody on Defense but it was cool too see him n Monta play for two years tho
@jahkrmusic3 ай бұрын
@@sidneygarcia7526 you right man. We definitely were disappointed. People felt he was too cocky too fast. It was just so hard to get stars back then. Dame really the first forreal😂
@thesuperpimpplaya13 ай бұрын
Gil played Curry 3 total times lol
@SpaceJawn3 ай бұрын
WE DONE WITH THE 2000s💀
@Kuroganemk23 ай бұрын
What I've noticed is that NBA players are biased when it comes to other players that are good at 1 v 1 like Iverson, Kobe, Melo but not necessarily ones that work well in a 5v5 setting lol
@simple456793 ай бұрын
It's pretty stupid because Steph is a great isolation player. He was cooking that celtics defense getting to any spot he wanted
@Kuroganemk23 ай бұрын
@@simple45679 Think it's the same reason they make fun of lebron saying things that he has no bag, cos he isn't a good iso player and needs to work of his team. I guess that's how it goes, you only get respect if you are good at 1v1. That's why EU players are kind of cooking USA players. EU guys learn teamwork first while US try to be a one man show
@simple456793 ай бұрын
@@Kuroganemk2 LeBron is great in isolation (using his size and athleticism) , just not in the way the "hoopers" want it (using handles and flashy moves). USA is too complacent in international play, the NBA has teams that use ball movement playstyle but they rather brute force with talent
@filmgeschichte.3 ай бұрын
We done wit the 2010s is gonna be next week watch it come up
@PDXKing993 ай бұрын
This is why I can’t stand NBA discourse, they literally hate every era it doesn’t matter which era they talk about it’s just annoying to watch
@TriedYan3 ай бұрын
I’ve seen Steph get triple teamed with KD on the court what are we really talking about
@Realest1ne3 ай бұрын
This is a preview of what the discourse is going to sound like in 10 years. And then the same thing is going to happen to the 2010’s in 20 years. And so on. When I’m an old man and the kids of those days are shitting on the 2020’s, I’m gonna be laughing my ass off.
@kidflashiv3 ай бұрын
So Gil is saying because AI had a worse team and got guarded a specific way and steph never got guarded that particular way, AI is better?
@MrSlashblade3 ай бұрын
“Who was his teammates” Melo, JR, Camby, Kenyon.
@justanobody03 ай бұрын
Man Gil really missed the opportunity to have KMart there to have his perspective
@Augrills3 ай бұрын
AI was cooked by the time he made it to Denver. And Philly built the team he wanted, 4 dudes to defend and rebound the ball for him. AI was a baller but sacrificed team success for individual accolades
@MrSlashblade3 ай бұрын
@@Augrills he avg his career high before he got to Denver and there was no noticeable injuries.
@BYE_BYE6-o2b3 ай бұрын
DIkembe Mutombo, Aaron Mcgee, Eric Snow, George Lynch. Theo Ratliff. Sit down.
@MrSlashblade3 ай бұрын
@@BYE_BYE6-o2b nobody in the east had that
@Nightmare-we8vm3 ай бұрын
RJ and Channing Fry had a great discussion on the 17 Warriors Vs the 04 Pistons and they perfectly explained what the evlovution of the game is. Allen Iverson would have to change his game significantly because a small guard that can't shoot over ball screens and can't function in complex PNR actions is gonna have a tough time. Sounds like Russ to me. You can pull up for mid range shots and fill the lane but you can't force the defense to rotate.
@Realest1ne3 ай бұрын
Gotta love these hypothetical arguments that are impossible to prove on either side.
@kyletucker38113 ай бұрын
I mean I can easily prove both. Steph probably wouldn't drag that specific team to the finals because it was built around an athletic phenom who needs the ball all the time. But the Warriors aren't winning a championship either because AI can't shoot like Steph. Without his unique effect on the floor and spacing, they aren't nearly as good.
@Realest1ne3 ай бұрын
@@kyletucker3811 The only way you can prove anything regarding this is if you have a Time Machine. Creating a reality in your mind isn’t proof.
@dmore4543 ай бұрын
What people today lack to realize about that 2001 76ers team is that it wasn't a bunch of scrubs and Mutumbo bscking up AI if you're not some casual who only looks at basic box scores. It was loaded with defensefirst glue guys and quality role players who've been lost to time because they didn't make an all-star game (and every era has a ton of these lost-to-time glue guys/role players). Raja Bell wasn't some scrub nobody, he was a really good role player that was valued by a lot of GMs and was sought after to bolster good teams in his prime. Same goes for guys like Snow, McKie, Geiger, Hill, etc. Yeah, their PPG were pretty low, but that didn't make them bums in a pre-analytics, pre-pro spacing rule changes era where you could get away with a bunch of defense first role players with zero scoring gravity because teams didn't really know how to exploit it yet, nor could they exploit it to the extent future teams would have without the widening of the paint, changing to the defensive 3-second paint violation, dropping handchecking, etc. The Going to Work Pistons went to 6 straight ECFs, 2 back to back Finals and won a chip with a team that didn't have a single elite scorer (hell, they had maybe 3 guys who were above average or better scorers) by loading up on defense (and they were coached to that ring by the same defense oriented coach who coached the 76ers in 2001). Yes, Iverson carried that team on offense. A lot. And he deserves a lot of credit for it. But everyone acting like he carried the team as a whole on his back when his teammates collectively carried him just as much if not more on defense as he carried them on offense is just showing they either don't know ball, they're too young to have watched that era, or they weren't paying attention back then.
@puncho87993 ай бұрын
All this shows is whatever era you’re in you’re gonna think is the best era 🤷🏽♂️
@cookiemonster643 ай бұрын
Duh lol 🙄
@puncho87993 ай бұрын
@@cookiemonster64 So all this we done with the 90s was just this era hating “got it” 👍🏽
@hachiuram3 ай бұрын
@@puncho8799this only applies to 2000s and above we still done with the 90s 😂😂
@puncho87993 ай бұрын
@@hachiuram Keep showing your biases only a youngster would say we done with the 90s because they were not around during that time
@isaakfrmla3 ай бұрын
@@hachiuramtypical brain dead anime nerd
@ZayGore3 ай бұрын
Brandon talks alot of shh for somone who shot like 37% for his career. Bro was Devante Graham of the early 2010s
@jaxsynwinkler58593 ай бұрын
So does Rashad and gil
@dakotathomas21393 ай бұрын
20 yrs from now it'll be "WE DONE WITH THE 2020S" they was just PODCASTERS (plumbers&accountants)
@dwaynestroud88603 ай бұрын
Never💯
@jayvon2213 ай бұрын
And they will be right if the avg mf something like wemby😂
@Friendguystarcraft2 ай бұрын
Nah all these arguments are bullshit, the previous gen is always almost as good as the current gen, especially the top players. Randy Johnson pitches just as fast as the top dogs today. Steph and Bron are at the same level as Giannis and Jokic, Kobe and Shaq are right near Lebron and Steph’s level, Jordan was just as good as Kobe and Shaq, Bird was just barely behind Jordan, Kareem was just as good as Bird, Wilt was right there with Kareem. The biggest difference between eras isn’t individual ability, it’s how teams are constructed and how they operate their offensive and defensive schemes, how players prepare their bodies, and the bag players have. The shotmaking was similar, the passing was similar, the athleticism was similar from the top guys, etc.
@quintonetienne20502 ай бұрын
They always bring up that one year in phila but bro played 14 years in the league, while in his prime he play multiple season with Melo and didn’t even make it out the first round.
@tay93453 ай бұрын
Saying ai is trash is not real hoop talk.. what’s going on
@emiliovgc5072 ай бұрын
Compared to the mf he was compared with? Absolutely. Yes, AI is garbage compared to Curry and even Kyrie. AI himself said that Kyrie is absolutely better than him in handles and getting past defenders.
@HusaidanHarris2 ай бұрын
@@emiliovgc507AI can carry a team and is overall the better player. Kyrie had a Celtics roster where he was the number one option, and did nothing.
@emiliovgc5072 ай бұрын
@@HusaidanHarris how many rings does AI have?
@leroyrodgers60893 ай бұрын
When Klay was injured, Steph had an MVP caliber season that was completely ignored.
@TsunwoDere3 ай бұрын
So we just gonna ignore with that Warriors team with KD Curry was doubled more than KD. Curry was crazy on and OFF the ball. You had to guard Curry as a team
@TrojanBOY903 ай бұрын
Lmao B Solz face when they said “who did he do it against” 😂😂😂
@MrSoa0073 ай бұрын
Curry CLEARS!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE
@tdmidas2893 ай бұрын
Delusion
@MrSoa0073 ай бұрын
@@tdmidas289😂😂😂😂 to think AI is better I definitely agree
@MrSoa0073 ай бұрын
@@tdmidas289😂😂😂😂 to think AI is better I definitely agree
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
Curry shoots and passes better. AI does everything else better.
Them boys don’t even understand what gills arguing is actually in Jennings favor. They let a guy under 6ft BY HIMSELF run through the whole east lmao it literally goes both ways. that’s not even close to the east now where those top 4-5 east teams got like 3 stars each and that’s still known as a weak conference
@cody953 ай бұрын
I love AI but he is definitely overrated 😂
@cookiemonster643 ай бұрын
Now Allen Iverson is overrated you yapping
@Equilyzr3 ай бұрын
@@cookiemonster64he’s right
@XanielMarino3 ай бұрын
@@cookiemonster64he is if they think he’s as good or in the same tier as Steph Curry. He’s an all time great but he’s nowhere near one of the Top 25 players to ever play and Curry is firmly in that category
@ecoblitz36553 ай бұрын
@@cookiemonster64they comparing this man to Steph… he’s overrated
@psychedelicvault69513 ай бұрын
Your opinion doesn't matter you 304 ass weirdos can't diminish Allen Iverson's influence and legacy he didn't stack the deck to win and he has just as many scoring titles as Kevin Durant a player 11 inches taller than him.
@thesuperpimpplaya13 ай бұрын
AI had the DPOY and 6th man with COTY btw. That year.
@3CityJay3 ай бұрын
To be fair, Curry had the DPOY and COTY too
@thesuperpimpplaya13 ай бұрын
@@3CityJay Not in the same year though
@Coldskin13 ай бұрын
Curry had a super team
@greyklopstock71553 ай бұрын
Allen Iverson had chris Webber, Iggy, Kyle korver, rookie Lou Will, and natt barnes in 06, and bro won less than 40 games. And him and Chris both played over 70 games, and iggy played all 82. Even when he had good teammates, he often did more harm than good
@erv.76633 ай бұрын
This gotta be the next Career swap Idea for Solz and Sage! Steph And AI!
@MrJokerfrog3 ай бұрын
I just hate how they talking about removing kaly and dreymond but forget how stacked west was at the time. Like no shit Steph not taking them to the finals when going against Okc, Rockets, clippers, portland. AI played against realtive competition to get to the finals and so did steph.
@nikoadventures3 ай бұрын
Isn’t it AI fault for not willing to change his play style thus players didn’t wanna play with him?
@legenddaryl5373 ай бұрын
having weak teammates isnt equal to having your teammates getting injured.. yes AI did have weaker teammates but they still the same teammates who he was practicing with and making plays with the whole season.. compare that to having one of your best passer in draymond getting injured dude nobody in that lineup can mimic the way he plays thats why the whole team becomes alot weaker when somebody gets injured especially when that player has one of the most important roles..
@tnsxpm3 ай бұрын
He said "power scaling the NBA" 😭
@justasimplemanworkinghiswa15693 ай бұрын
Like its anime
@M0STD0P3SOCIETY3 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure even AI thinks Kyrie is better than he once was
@justasimplemanworkinghiswa15693 ай бұрын
AI is actually real humble
@QuanfrmPZ43 ай бұрын
Steph’s career 3pt% is higher then AI fg% 😐
@parkergotkicks74273 ай бұрын
arguing that your era wasn’t weak while talking about how there were teams with only 1 scorer is crazy 😭 that AI team could never exist td cause everyone can score
@its-dg29873 ай бұрын
I genuinely cannot listen to Rashad McCannts talk for more than 3 minutes. He either gets in his feelings or just dk what the fuck he’s talking about 😭
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
Same. People say he's entertaining on the show. I personally think he ruins it.
@timothymiller44753 ай бұрын
But you can listen to gil?
@markadams93353 ай бұрын
The whole show is unbearable 90% of the time especially if Kenyon Martin on.
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
@timothymiller4475 I can, he makes the most sense most of the time.
@ivorizak18512 ай бұрын
Gil is a perfect example of just because you played in the league doesn’t mean you know sht about basketball
@michaelrodriguez70323 ай бұрын
Bro steph got 4 rings lol
@CWZimba16 күн бұрын
That sound board sound always gets me😂
@dameshiesty19933 ай бұрын
Ngl Brandon usually say some dumb shit. But he cooking with this take idgaf
@simple456793 ай бұрын
Everyone cooks when debating against mccants and gil lmao
@kingjojo8012 ай бұрын
The shortened season was so special yet so slept on
@cxshcam1603 ай бұрын
Gill thinks ai scored 100 ppg or something
@quintonetienne20502 ай бұрын
I literally just went back and looked at the 2001 nba playoff and all the roster, every team that year had one player who was an offense force, everybody else was defensive guys. Vince Carter, Baron Davis, Ray Allen and Allen Iverson were the final four in the east and Allen Iverson had the best defensive team out of all of them. People don’t talk about the lack of offense until they played the lakers. Dude averaged 32.9 on 11/30 shooting. I love A.I. but people tend to over due how great that run was
@EndManMANn3 ай бұрын
We done wit the 2000’s (I was born in 02)
@psychedelicvault69513 ай бұрын
You were born in an era you don't know much about because you were in elementary school by the time the 2010s ended. It doesn't matter what you think. You losers hate on star players drafted in the 90s but they were the ones kicking Lebum's ass in the 2000s and 2011. 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂 I mention Lebron because that's who most of you 2000s babies glaze when you try to diminish older players' legacies.
@alekivaz3 ай бұрын
That nuggets team was destroyed by George Karl. The entire team vouches for that.
@justasimplemanworkinghiswa15693 ай бұрын
George karl is a basketball terroist
@milesaheadpodcast3 ай бұрын
AI is the most overrated basketball player in NBA history. Nostalgia never dies with him. He had 1 run. He was a 6ft guard with a MJ complex and by choice decided not to practice or go to the weight room.
@eprjct3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say he's overrated. It's these clowns that make him overrated. They have to make him overrated so they can feel better about their mediocrity during their time in the NBA.
@cookiemonster643 ай бұрын
You yapping go to sleep
@justanobody03 ай бұрын
wow, you're talking about practice? not a game... not a game... not a game I can't believe y'all talking about practice
@christianshaw24503 ай бұрын
This is the era we in where a dude like yourself think there knowledge of the game is more than guys that played and hall of famers. Im going to listen to a dude that makes videos about basketball and get 10 views or the multiple hall of fame basetball players that have spoke about AI. Kobe himself said he wished AI wasnt 6'6''
@milesaheadpodcast3 ай бұрын
@@justanobody0 Nah he said in an interview recently that he didn’t went to practice.
@breezenem2 ай бұрын
as a sixers fan that “with no rings” hurt but it was needed 😂😂😂 gil was yappin
@EndManMANn3 ай бұрын
Tim Duncan sorry ass ran up 4 rings in that era 😂Kobe and Shaq solo duoed that whole era man when u really think about it that era was top heavy asf
@manev74833 ай бұрын
you can say the same thing about lebron era running through the east
@psychedelicvault69513 ай бұрын
Lebron didn't win anything in the 2000s and Tim Duncan is his father. You won't call the 2010s top heavy though when Lebron starting deckstacking then KD and Steph Curry followed. Now lames like you are tryna to diminish homegrown dynasties like the Spurs and Lakers but y'all glaze this era though. The 2000s are so weak according to you, but the Spurs and Mavericks beat Lebron's superteams without a superteam. 🤡😂🤣🤣🤣😂 The Spurs beat the 3 time defending champion Lakers in 2003 I don't see anyone in your era beating a team with a 3 peat. 😂😂🤣🤣
@beholdson71323 ай бұрын
All due respect to AI he was great for his era but having to seriously argue whether a 6’1 volume shooter on 42/31/78 splits would do what Steph did for the warriors who’s success and offense depends on Steph’s shooting is insane.
@joserc62953 ай бұрын
Thomson on the last GSW championship was not THE THOMPSON that was setting records before his major injuries. Curry was the Offense of that team.
@whosyaghaddy53823 ай бұрын
Brandon standing on business with his take here too no cap
@RobJarrell633 ай бұрын
Yea, people love standing on bs
@tucklydavis90642 ай бұрын
@@RobJarrell63you think AI better than Steph?
@RobJarrell632 ай бұрын
@tucklydavis9064 I think steph is better because he's flexible, he's a better shooter, and he has a better IQ but as much as a like him he's not carrying a team but he makes that team work Ai is more like lebron on that he needs to ball on his hands. Him carrying the mixers is like lebron carrying the cavs to the finals. Great defensive team with one truly elite scorer
@trayskii_73503 ай бұрын
Ngl I didn’t know bout that 2013 year….basically 40 minutes a game shooting 8 threes a game on 45% efficiency is wild 😭
@castanzofranzman20133 ай бұрын
Honestly why do we care what Gil thinks
@Lootroq3 ай бұрын
It's fair to mention that players didn't have as long of a career as they do today because of the hard physical play so when AI left Philly, he wasn't the same player plus melo was super young and a black hole similar to AI to be honest though lol
@itsmeflacko16183 ай бұрын
Lets be real steph isn't a generational TALENT just a generational PLAYER. A generational talent is wemby, but if he never wins or has a bill Walton injury type career he'll never be a generational player
@silversoulken3 ай бұрын
Facts
@PepeAgain10253 ай бұрын
That's still generational tho, dude changed the game to what it is today whether people disagree or not. Steph had teams reconstructing line-ups to combat his 3s. Just like Shaq did it with his physicalness, Curry did it with range and shooting.
@rxzesereniti97503 ай бұрын
Curry has the talent to shoot the lights out. No one besides Klay comes close. He’s a generational talent and player.
@randyscavage3 ай бұрын
Is shooting not a talent?
@Blackcat-yx4ii3 ай бұрын
What?😂
@magicalvisions47042 ай бұрын
Carrying a team doesn’t makes u a better player is a crazy ass statement
@Lokoclutch983 ай бұрын
Steph and gilbert played each other 3 time. Once in 2009 and the other 2 was in 2011. He didnt even play against all star steph, let alone prime steph
@dotfoefive59973 ай бұрын
“Klay would’ve averaged 30 cause nobody gave 2 shits about him, we’re watching A.I”🤔 so why didn’t Kyle korver average 20 in 2005 when he played with A.I ?? These dudes just say anything and expect us to eat it up 🤦🏾♂️
@parkyawhip2233 ай бұрын
Korver not klay Thompson
@brenden84782 ай бұрын
I dont think they are saying that steph doesnt deserve his praise. They are saying coming at ai for lack of championships is not a fair argument when if he had the same amount of help he would probably have multiple championships
@purerage78123 ай бұрын
Man they were on THEIR KNEES for AI in this debate
@pgbrual14532 ай бұрын
We done with the 2010s 😂
@SuperSaiyanRome4 күн бұрын
Steph Curry had a better career, but AI was the better all around player doing it at 6’0. Bro got MVP, multiple scoring titles and steals leader 3x, in a league that had Tim Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, KG, TMac, Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, Gilbert Arenas etc. Got All-NBA first in 05 when Bron, Wade, Melo, Bosh were coming up in the league. The disrespect they give to the older generation is crazy
@drakevick16463 ай бұрын
Fuck it, we done with the 2010’s 😂
@Just1n1sK1ng3 ай бұрын
That sixers squad had The MVP of the league 6th man of the year Defensive player of the year And coach of the year
@apimpnamedslickback44323 ай бұрын
Just cause you have a sports channel doesn’t mean you know anything about ball
@jaxsynwinkler58593 ай бұрын
Facts 🔥🔥🔥 get gil outta here 💯💯💯💯
@jamesgarcia7433 ай бұрын
How do you look up the stats and still get them wrong?
@younglove33623 ай бұрын
They're laughing at Jennings being labeled 🏷 the next AI like it's a bad thing. 🤨
@leothelion25933 ай бұрын
Crazy thing is he’s saying those guys couldn’t score but that team was built around A.I’s deficiencies. Defense. Most of those guys could defend. A.I handled the offense
@derekmiller63652 ай бұрын
Saying all 5 guys aren’t guarding Steph totally ignores the defense the rest of the NBA actually plays on him. It also ignores the fact that for the past few years getting offensive production from the rest of the starting 5 has been like pulling teeth. The help typically comes from the bench. The starting 5 have their moments but they are far and few between.
@camarhaynes73522 ай бұрын
They use that logic to support their players but knock Bron for losing Finals with the Cavs?💀💀
@malik19936192 ай бұрын
I never knew Rashad played only 3 years 😭😭 the way he’s talking in every debate I thought he played 20 years and went head to head with kobe
@Zaee.Capone2 ай бұрын
yk what’s crazyy it’s the fact rashad talking like brandon era is trash,did they forget lebron james has 4 rings & is the all time scoring leader den steph has 4 rings & is the all time 3pt leader
@giod.84763 ай бұрын
How does BJ say that era was trash and proceed to mention Kobe and shaq lmao
@jaxsynwinkler58593 ай бұрын
He's saying the only good players was Shaq and Kobe which is a bad take but whatever.
@boobÿ_music2 ай бұрын
So when he brings up the players Steph had around him it lowkey helps Brandon’s point that the players got better as the years went on because now everyone damn near has two if not three stars on their team back in the early 2000’s nd 90’s it was rare to have two and if they did their role players where guys you could find at a YMCA now days
@qt_playboi32663 ай бұрын
Love how he brought up Allen iverosns team in bringing up 2018 lebron team both had same results
@xxac3zn8zxx873 ай бұрын
As a Bucks fan the downfall of brandon has been tough too watch, I thought we would only have to deal with him getting cooked on the court but now he getting cooked off it as well😂