Brandon Sanderson Lecture 4: Character Creation Examples Part 2 (6/6)

[@PoweredFire]

Name Gender, age 2 Passions Secret, past, and relationships Personality, quirks, and traits Goals and motivations

[@1104088]

I wish i had a Brandon on my shoulder watching me write and correcting me when i get it wrong.

[@redear9366]

6 - year old who can read minds - Anya from Spy X Family. 17 - year old necromancer who tried to resurrect their parent and failed - Edward Elric, Fullmetal Alchemist.

[@ixuvia]

Can't wait to see this stuff continued. Thank you so much for posting, it's the most entertaining learning I've done for a good long while.

[@Beansareamagicalfruit]

He sounds so annoyed with some of these lol!

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

3:00 Pretty good girl!! Still raw cause we need to know what kind of world is and people in it but okay start. Like westeros and Succession War, fight for a throne but almost totally different story.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

3:24 I actually like this, they laugh about the motivation but they are wrong, reminds me Power from csm "why am i running so desesperately? Why do i feel this pain in my chest? Because of a cat?! What a stupid reason" the smallest things might mean the world to us. she could be tomboyish, muscular and dirty because of her job which pushes girls and guys away, so almost no friends and lovers and feeling out of place while also loving beauty and feminity but feeling all wrong which torns her inside. Think Brienne of Tarth. Her true passion could be art and beauty, living and bringing joy to life but her job is a harbinger of death. "Swords are tools made to kill" - Musashi, "this job of killing... there's nothing honorable about it" - Guts. The dichotomy of weapons for self protection and destruction. But weapons possess great beauty too, you would see this passion for beauty in the things she makes, it would be the most beautiful equipment of the city. She could even get into a plot of creating weapons for royalty maybe even under threat. Her dream for beauty and love could be something she cares while she's stuck in situations out of her control, like that scene of your character creating door lockers. The final scene could be her FINALLY doing some runway modeling, and even getting married, it wouldnt be the end but a delayed beginning.

[@improvementTime10.3.17]

4:10 he often will nap out his chars like this but he would go deeper = Secret passion then unique questions for each ques @4:50 ============ 4:50 going deeper = create other chars in their lives that creates friction with them Or Things in setting that create friction Or Political/Faction to create friction or unusual political/religious philosophy that doesn tmeld well with any of th eother passions = creating conflict @6:00 (racist against alien species) or what personality type are we looking for? ============ 6:38 want a mix of different chars Don’t want everyone to be everything Same with powers and abilities weakness and strengths so they all have different roles they can play ============= 9:13 studying deviant psychological behavior/ personality complexes could help give another layer of variety to work with 9:47 next step have each of these char walk through same scene and notice different things, describe it differently 11:30 show us all of this through what they notice, think and say, without ever info dumping us on their passions, show it through what I said before “A ward against necromancy on that door…I’ll have to find a back entrance somewhere” Now we know she’s a necromancer

[@ReesJB]

I think 2:50 might have just been the origin of Eshonai's story in Words of Radiance.

[@melrakan]

It's funny because it sounds exactly like Nami's dream. Nami is a character from the popular manga One Piece, and her dream is to map the whole world.

[@improvementTime10.3.17]

5:22 personality archteype

[@AerisNotAerith]

Thank you so much for uploading these!!!

[@GITTSDK]

Am I the only one watching this going "Holy mother of all piranhas, I want to read a book about a 17-year-old necromancer whose zombie father lives in the basement!"

[@mksartinjr]

Yes.

[@mercury0x0]

Don't worry, I'm writing it right now. Thanks to these lectures.

[@scotnommensen9576]

Is there a place where I can find a list and description of all the personality archetype?

[@tamanousJP]

This is so helpful for my books. Cheers!

[@davejacob5208]

damnit, that really would be a great first sentence + conflict. and the third character also sounds really great.

[@ProxyFilter]

The 6 year old walks past the 52 year old guy in the street and says "WTF, a Trash man, Zen-master, String Theorist?"

[@mksartinjr]

8yrs later = 33k watched this.. 420 likes?! C'mon. Everyone just listening to this playlist on loop lol.

[@heavymetalgaming7145]

I wonder how Brandon feels about reading other books at around the same time he is writing one. Is that just something you would stay away from as a writer? Or is it something that might actually help you in your creative process?

[@onyxianz8132]

+HeavyMetal I do this at the moment but I only do so that I can expand my vocabulary. I think, in writing, inspiration shouldn't come from books.

[@detectiveMM]

HeavyMetal he definitely reads while writing books. Writing a book can take up to a year or more so he's not gonna go that long without reading anything

[@nickanthony4979]

12 years later and the Bechdel ruined entertainment lol.

[@hax0r117]

@chris pacheco Really? Where did that some from? O_O

[@improvementTime10.3.17]

u2 9:22

[@christiepowell3647]

Has anyone written up a book on these? Because I would love to read the third one, with the sibling stealing the sword. I notice he didn't name them. Do names ever come up in these lectures? Because those are kind of important.

[@ZaxololRiyodin]

I'm pretty sure he just made that story up for the class.

[@eeMJaii]

Haha the 6 year old is a loose outline of danny torrence ;)

[@melrakan]

2:50 I see someone read a lot of One Piece and liked Nami ;)

[@Aldermeeer]

One thing I would add to the Bechdel test is that the women have to be of different age groups, so you don't end up with it being all "sororities" and "quilting bees".

[@ContSpellGud]

The one minority... Sazed!

[@KagendaK]

Cyborg from Teen Titans/Justice League...

[@MitchIverson]

Write it... :)

[@SeverinR1]

17 yr old necromancer with zombie father playing crochet in the basement.

[@kovi567]

-,-" Alien racist? C'mon, that word is self-debunking...or how you call it. Racist is hatred against an exact race. "Aliens" are a different species. Use specist, or some other word ffs.

[@krisross8818]

Brandon is too smart to be a Morman. If you want good fantasy writing look no further than the book of Morman.

[@MichaelWoody3]

+Kris Ross That's fairly rude. Not to mention not really logical. Religion has no bearing on one's intelligence.

[@ticklemaster6257]

Really it does, the book of Mormon is a fucking joke. I have never heard of a more ridiculous idea in my entire life.

[@levitatingoctahedron922]

I unironically think the book of mormon is one of the greatest pieces of science fiction ever conceived, and not in a bad way whatsoever.

[@MoonshineSazerac]

Kiki Ross of course it does. How can you claim to be a) an intelligent, rational human being and b) someone who believes any of the crap presented in the Book of Mormon? With gold plates in a back garden, god living on a different planet, and jews building boats to sail to the states, or literally every other thing in that crock of shit? Religion needs belief and faith to function, and faith is the denial of facts and observation to reinforce the belief.

[@levitatingoctahedron922]

who cares. are you seriously angry because people believe stuff? chances are you hold unfalsifiable beliefs as well, be it moral realism or logical positivism, etc. like 99.99% of people on the planet.

[@OldmansCC]

For whatever reason he wanted to point out and avoid stereotyping the females, but he piled stereotypes on the older guy?

[@davejacob5208]

the stereotype of the older guy is one of many options for older guys, so not necessarily a stereotype. while, as he explained, women are almost all the time in the romance-part of the story, as long as they aren´t too young or too old. and he mentioned it because, as he explained, it is a well known problem.

[@UCUCUC27]

dont be an sjw brandon! ffs i wonder why a woman would talk to or about a member of sex that comprises 50% of the population!

[@thorodinson6649]

You didn’t get it