Bravely Default 2 - Job and Class Combo Guide ~ The MetaGame

[@josea.ruizquinones9262]

The Godspeed Strike was not completely fair as while you did get the baseline for Godspeed Strike you did went ahead and equipped an ability to the magic casters. Thats an advantage you gave them. It wont change the result much, but its an observation I must make. If equipping those abilities to the mages, a more fair comparison would have the Thief equipped with Across and Epic Group Cast so that the ultimate targets are the same. Second, you insisted on not giving Godspeed Strike to a stronger melee job, but tested magic with combinations. PS- Still liked the video

[@OniBlackMage]

TLDR; [GSS is not a very moddable attack unlike many other attacks in the game. With pretty much no unique ways to buff it (that also don't just apply to anyone), the limited nature of GSS makes it already a Control group for a fair experiment. GSS is left behind by other classes' moddable attacks, as shown. In other words, GSS is strong out the gate, but as the game goes on, many classes and attacks get boosted while GSS is left in a mostly vanilla state. GSS is linear while other options are quadratic.] Thank you for watching and I'm glad you brought this up, because it gives me a chance to further explain. I can see your point of comparing an umodded attack to a modded attack and I want to remind you, that is a limitation of GSS, not the experiment, which exposes that. Remember, the point of the comparison is vanilla Godspeed strike to other attacks and what it took other attacks to compare them to the GSS, showing that other minimum setups are very comparable with plenty of room for personal touches. Many classes have natural abilities or attacks that depend on other circumstances, unlike GSS which a pretty simple strong attack. Please understand the nature of a controlled experiment. The vanilla GSS was the Control group and whole point of a Control group is NOT to modify it. The other builds where the Experimental group and you are supposed to tinker with them. That's why it is completely fair. Furthermore GSS is also a safe control group because there really aren't ANY abilities that really change the attack in a unique way. Because: 1) Across the Board+Epic Group-Cast can make it hit the whole group for normal dmg... but everyone else can do the same so that makes it a useless variable 2) GSS can benefit from maxing out PhyAttack/Speed .... but everyone else can also benefit from max stats so that's a useless variable 3) GSS can hit weapon weakness ... everyone else can also target a weapon/element weakness so that's a useless variable (except in Pictomancer/Oracle's case because they specifically have Daub or a specialty that targets weaknesses, so that is their gimmick). If it makes you feel better, I DID originally do a separate experimental group Thief with just Natural Talent to triple its PhyAttack to show a boosted GSS with no gear, and the results were 10k normal 15 crit, so 20k normal, 30k crit dmg ... While other setups still matched or beat, I realized if I buffed the control group, it defeats the purpose of the experiment. (Besides, most ppl are not going to run a Natural Talent Thief, let's be honest). If anything, I didn't want to embarrass GSS more by showing how a Gambler can outdamage even if the Thief was boosted. Note I already accounted for the 4 classes that, just with base stats, can GSS strike harder than a thief. That is why I just mentioned them and did not show them (no point, and no new conclusions to be made from that). If I were showing another another class using thief's GS, then that's not a baseline for consistent stats. This was not a 'Who does GSS best' experiment (because the answer is always beastmaster) this was, 'which attacks can hit, with minimal effort, to regular thief using regular GSS'. You will note most of the experimental setups where just in their native class too, not getting stat buffs, so again, very fair. Finally , GSS is normally a single target attack. Yes, Across the Board makes it group-target, but then I also could have used Across the Board and used the ultimate single-target spells for the mages too and they still would out-damage. The mid-tier spells selected were already group spells without any modification so it's very fair. They just have access to a mechanic [Reflect] that GSS cannot take advantage of, which again, shows the limited nature of GSS. Again, you do NOT alter the control group if you want useful data (not that GSS can really be altered in meaningful ways to begin with). I hope that clear things up. The intent is to show if you want big number dmg. GSS is not the only/best way to go so you can play how you like. 👍

[@josea.ruizquinones9262]

@@OniBlackMage Yeah, thats why I said it fails to change the end results regardless. What I meant is that the disparity is enhanced even further like that and makes it seem much worse than it is. I wont deny the end result though, as its true.

[@OniBlackMage]

@@josea.ruizquinones9262 I gotcha, and I appreciate you opening the conversation because I am sure others had the same question in mind, and it gave us a chance to clear the air of any confusion. GSS is a great move, and I just want to encourage others to experiment beyond that starting point.

[@josea.ruizquinones9262]

@@OniBlackMage Yup, plenty of broken things to try out to be stuck with the basics!

[@lenia272]

@@OniBlackMage you say GSS is less moddable yet compared to every other benchmark it has twice the mods from stats as every other combo (atk + speed vrs just Matk) and by equiping so many extra passives just to get comparable damage you are in fact giving the casters unfair advantage. by time your done with the casters passives your done, no more room to put anything else yet with GSS you still have all passive slots open to buff it and your using pretty endgame legendary only passives so u might as well with GSS also. across the board epic group cast full force works just as well on GSS

[@JMrealgamer]

BD2 may look cute and chibi, but this game is so deep. JRPG’s never fail to amaze me. Much respect to them and you for making this video. I’ll be back.

[@raarasunai4896]

Even better, it’s a rare case of a complete game with no DLC required!

[@Kasaaz]

Berserk + Comeback Kid an interaction I hadn't considered, that's great!

[@keithrobinson2333]

A combo I use is berserker/hellblade for rage and reason with comeback kid using death throes as my main buff and berserker when I’m low on mp or built up a lot of brave points/ this combo usually sweeps everything

[@Ramsey276one]

I knew it was worth checking this vid! XD

[@bisurker]

I know this vid's a little old now, but I think I've made the most broken team setup in the game, which I like to call the Phantom Build. For the build, you need to master Phantom for 3 of your characters to get the "Results Guaranteed" second specialty, Have a: Swordsmaster/Phantom (with double duty) (Attacker) shielmaster/oracle (Defense) Phantom/Beastmaster (Thief/catcher) Phantom/Salvemaker (Support) Next, put: Counter-Savy, Multitask, Indiscriminate Rage, Critical Flow, and Counter on your attacker (Make sure they Dual wield either swords or daggers so they get the double duty specialty) Put Mug, magpie, Indiscriminate Rage, Rob Blind, Beast whisper, on your thief Put Rewarding Results, Attack Item Amp, Healing Item Amp, and Sub-Job Specialty 1 on your support Finally, No Guts No glory, BP limit Up, and Revenge on your Defense (Fill with whatever you want) This build exploits the hell out of "Results Guaranteed" on phantom and allows anything with a percentage chance to happen to happen EVERY TIME for 40 mp. With this setup you to capture whichever monster you want at full health, Team mug every group of enemies (getting two of every rare item as much as possible) Constantly destroy mobs of enemies with your Swordmaster (which will always crit, always have max BP, and always attack several times in a row thanks to solid stance, multitask, and your defender/oracle which guards the whole team and uses elemental supplement on your attacker) and your support can always inflict several status effects (guaranteed to get a free turn each time they do it), guaranteed to always apply status on all enemies, and on top of that then spam elixers on the entire team for FREE with widen area (as long as you have one in your inventory) or multidotes for FREE with compounding Hopefully someone out there enjoys this monsterously broken build as much as I have.

[@davidmaxwell4696]

I love how much synergy there is between all the classes in this game

[@Kasaaz]

It can't be understated how much decoupling attacks / defaults from strict turns has changed the game.

[@Ramsey276one]

The Spirit buff WOW XD

[@shirokatta4051]

Yep that single factor can absolutely jack you over if your enemy has a stupidly high speed stat

[@crowravencorvenrow]

What do you mean?

[@Kasaaz]

@@crowravencorvenrow If you play the first game after playing this one you'll see. You assigned everyone's attacks all at once before the turn started, instead of as the character's turn came.

[@crowravencorvenrow]

@@Kasaaz Got it.

[@dobadobadooo]

My team, which I highly recommend: *Seth:* Shieldmaster/Salve-maker (The party tank who also gave much needed support and gave status conditions to enemies) *Gloria:* White Mage/Spiritmaster (Classic healer/supporter who helped tremendously through most boss fights) *Elvis:* Red Mage/Oracle (The offensive mage, this amazing combo destroyed most bosses with Chainspell Triplaga) *Adelle:* Swordmaster/Vanguard (The damage dealer, so powerful she seriously beat the final boss in a single round)

[@Zerobasssoul]

Now this is the video I've been waiting for, hope u enjoyed bravely 2

[@AkaTrios]

My personal favorite combo is Swordmaster/Shieldmaster using Fluid Stance. While individual hits may not be that big, hitting for 5k 5 times everytime anyone gets attacked while draining opponent's BP was pretty hot~

[@Ramsey276one]

I love that Triple Counter or ULTRA COMBOO! XD

[@kaug5570]

Thank you for all the effort you put into this detailed, well-presented, very helpful video. I've seen so many "tips" videos but this truly gives us a comprehensive breakdown of the most important things to think about when playing the game. Astounding work!!

[@Varizen87]

Great video, and I am SO glad you included the Red Mage statuses. I didn't realize each spell had 2 options, and I was going nuts trying to figure out if Wind was Sleep or Silence. Amusingly, I've only had Fire proc on me once, and it was a group cast that doomed everything.

[@Ramsey276one]

TRIPLE O_o XD

[@darkjoecast]

Yessss I've been waiting for this video since release! :)

[@TripleB2580]

Red Mage with Black Mage sub is amazing, with the right equipment you can max out MP and with Beastmaster MP saver combined with the Master Special you can have an extremely lethal damage output

[@dxjxc91]

Chaining in the final dungeon with obliterate is by far the best grind in the post game. With a single growth egg per character, it is possible to get legendary in a single battle if a few wikis show up (5000-6000 jp on screen which comes out to easily around 20k).

[@Soft-m2m]

Made a mistake and kind of spoiled my excitement by watching this video slowly as I played through the game. If anyone’s reading this who hasn’t already beaten the game, I recommend just making your own builds and not waiting for sub-job 2, even though that seems to unlock most of the interesting builds in the game. If you end up doing ng+ and having fun with sub-job 2, that’s great, but don’t let the anticipation ruin your first playthrough like I did. Edit: to be clear, though, this isn’t to blame or diminish the work of the creator of this awesome video. I just set myself up for disappointment instead of stopping to enjoy stuff like bastion/dragoon with sub-job specialty 1 because I was in a hurry to find out where you get 2.

[@mav807]

Awesome in depth video, super glad to see someone making good content for this game like this

[@shinnemort4271]

1- a tip for Shieldmaster- you can Bodyguard 3x in a row to completely tank ALL (and i mean LITERALLY ALL) damage any of your party takes until your shieldmaster's next turn. this includes Arcanist all hitters (meaning you can only set up 1 ally to absorb the spells), enemy AOE, and random target damage. Protect Ally also works the same, so you can pair Last Resort with it for Crazy high stats, and your other characters take no damage, which can be extremely useful for classes with lower base stats IE. Red Mage or Ranger. 2- also consider Dragoon for Salve maker sub job thanks to 0 cost Soul Crush, being able to remove an enemy's BP 3- Wild Wizardry unlike the dual element all hitters IS affected by Reflect, which can be fun to play around with Results Guaranteed. 4- one thing to be aware of- the stat cap. All stats are capped at 999 including buffs. this means that more often than not, Freelancer in postgame + last resort Actually loses damage compared to other classes due to you probably hitting 999 atk, and the abilities Brute Force and Raw Power follow the same principle, as well as Become the lightning, Wall, Death Throes, Aggravate, etc. The Bard's Buffs are worded to be exempt from this, as they buff damage, not the actual stat. Bun Farming also makes these abilities get massive diminishing returns. 5- speaking of Buns, this kinda imo makes base stats on classes much less useful in postgame since you can just farm buns to make up negative stats on a job, again like Ranger or Red Mage, which is really interesting as sort of a nerf to Freelancer or Beastmaster, as they get less value thanks to the cap and buns. 6- Triple iirc is has the higest damage level, as you can hit over 5, and possibly nearly 10 mill in 4 BP, so it's the best one of the best spells in the game. Disaster, on the other hand, is one of the most reliable spells, as it's the only single target dual-element spell in the game, which means you get more damage out of hitting weaknesses.

[@lcs-steven4461]

Ahh vanguard, hitting maxed damage every hit with cross cut is always perfect

[@sadeknight9112]

I can’t understate just how good Shield master is when you hit endgame. Something you didn’t really mention is that sub-job specialty 2 works for Late Bloomer and Creature Comforts so a Shieldmaster with Freelancer sub-job and specialty 2 turns your bodyguard into an indestructible wall that can take all but the biggest of hits

[@deebee5378]

The fastest way I've found to grind jp: First you'll need to be high level enough to scare monsters at the beach the protagonist washed up on. Ideally, have some aquatic monster bait and the berserker skill to hit all enemies. These monsters will drop bait to replenish it Go to the beach the main character washed up on in the beginning of the game. go all the way to the eastern peninsula, there should be some grass and palm trees. wait until there are 2 slimes spawned. scare the slimes away, trying to get them to hug the coastline to keep them together while you send them west to the opposite side of the beach (towards the wreckage). along the way, scare any other monsters in the same direction, try to keep them together. Do that until you get all the monsters into the corner on the west end of the beach, all mushed together. keep them together and synced up until nightfall, you'll want them facing you at the same time as they turn around (you can do that by stepping back and waiting until most of them turn around, then scare them. you'll eventually get them synced up). use an aquatic monster bait right before they all face you. let them all get hearts above their heads and while they're still close together, initiate the fight and kill everything. Do whatever makes it go faster in terms of skills and equipment This takes a few minutes to set up, and you get about 1400 jp each time depending on how much you maximized the circumstances (monsters seem to show up in bigger groups at night, and using bait to get hearts above as many of their heads as possible will add even more consecutive battles) The set up is tedious, but doing this 4 or 5 times will get a job to lvl 12 in a matter of minutes To do it again, use another kind of bait to clear out the effect, go back to the palm tree area to the east and wait until 2 slimes respawn and repeat. Max out freelancer first to get the jp up skills and equip them. Bonus: Have your fastest character equip the berserker skill and the beastmaster skill that auto-captures defeated monsters. You'll make any lvl 12 beastmaster's stat bonus ridiculously high the more monsters you have captured. I recommend this for killing trash mobs in dungeons on the way to the bosses too. Use mug, rare item, and money bonuses if you want, but they don't really drop much

[@joeyjose727]

I think this is good for the early game, but once you can reliably defeat Mushuu (however you spell it, Mr Savalon Snake), it saves sooo much time I was fine rounding up monsters on the beach until I felt like it wasn’t worth the time

[@anttheknee1372]

@@joeyjose727 where do i find this monster?

[@joeyjose727]

@@anttheknee1372 it’s the one at the beginning of the video, there’s an isolated area on the overworld map you can only reach by going through the savalon waterway, but it’s only worth switching to this method when you can reliably take it out in one turn (all 4 characters attacking, and level 40 seems to be what people say is the time to start grinding there effectively)

[@lenia272]

obliterate in the spot with the highest wiki's and using food is much much faster then both the video and this comment. literally max jobs in 2ish fights lasting about 10ish seconds each

[@jonathangille8643]

I did something like this myself, moment I unlocked Beastmaster I mastered it at the beach while just using the auto combo system to capture monsters. I used beastmaster sub while lvling all job's i had unlocked to 12. Forgot the name of the lower costing Beastmaster skill that will always leave an enemy with 1 hp followed with Capture. Pair it with Mp Cost Saver, Darkest Night? (skill that regens mp at night), and Jp + Jp Up and Up. By the time I finished maxing current jobs to 12 (including Thief/Gambler at the moment) My Beastmasters Main stats are around 9k hp and 650-700 atk/magic attack so on at lvl 20... lol

[@chrishunter9185]

This was such a fantastic video. I learned so many new stuff about this game. Like damn I wish I knew half of this stuff on my first playthrough

[@Kasaaz]

It's wild that Dual Wield + Thrust and Parry is so strong both offensively and defensively together. I'm surprised there are so few 2 slot passive abilities, especially after returning to play some Bravely Second. I like it, because it gives you a lot more options, but it's clear that some abilities are way better than others in the one slot cost range.

[@livem2011]

Add delivery offense and you get a total of 58% damage reduction, is using that combo to make my Ranger a tank

[@Kasaaz]

@@livem2011 Awesome. I need to figure out which attacks count for Defensive Offense to trigger.

[@ThePrestoGuitar]

I knew you would make a video! I was literally addicted to your BD/BS content, so I'm so happy :>

[@MrThibault8888]

I"m so glad you made this video ! I don't watch videos like "tips for BD2" or "Best job combo BD2" because with 100+ hours playing you know all this stuff. But what you did here is exactly what i need, it's thourough and goes way beyond what i can test myself, so thank you !

[@Flareboxx]

Yay!! I'm so glad you made a new video for Bravely Default 2! :) Thank you!

[@ne0space]

I really enjoy seeing all these crazy team builds people can come up with

[@jhon1406]

you are just brilliant dude. i've been using your guides since bd1 + it's a crying shame i never hit sub until today. hope you have a nice weekend :D

[@HiperMario]

this video literally has all the information I needed. Thank you

[@nhaer042]

I've started playing this game and this guide will be very helpful. The Phantom and Salve Maker combo seems like it would be fun to play with.

[@GamblerofFates]

I can’t wait to try some of these class combos! Thanks for the break-down

[@Foxblinde]

I went with redmage/hellblade. Status procs for the blade abilities was fun.

[@BatousaiJ]

Very nice video. I had similar sentiments about the most of the classes until I got to endgame and started farming those overpowered weapons where even more possibilities open up.

[@vinnymac102]

I knew this was coming. 😄 I'm playing the game now but I can't miss your videos

[@TempestDacine]

Thanks for the clear and well researched advice!

[@raarasunai4896]

Off the top of my head, I don’t recall all the pieces of it, but I had a setup with Shieldmaster using Arcanist as a sub-job. There was an effect that increased damage dealt based on the user’s equipment weight, and it allowed Shieldmaster to do double duty of blocking attacks, gaining BP from it, and unleashing that BP in the form of Meteor or Apocalypse

[@moodragonx2]

This is a awesome guide. I've only just started getting into this game and felt a bit overwhelmed as a "amateru" JRPG player.

[@PinkBunnyCorporation]

You saint. This bit only helped me refine my current party set up, but also want to try a few different combos too. I really like controlling the BP flow, so I will see what I can do.

[@sdw4527]

Phantom's Rewarding Results is insanely versatile. You can use it to guarantee inflict Daub with Pictomancer as well. This is one of the ways to make magic at endgame hit insane numbers.

[@Ramsey276one]

I was thinking about a fanfic thing (think DLC villain ) and came up with this: Shadow Asterisk Allows you to change between three Main/Sub Job sets (BP 3) OR Shadow Shuffling (BP 1) that makes a Random Main/Sub/Ability build!

[@salahahmednah2027]

Great video! Just wanted to say that the second to last final dungeon is much faster for grinding jp you can look into it if you want

[@smithanimal]

This video is greatly appreciated. I'm about to put aside my hatred for the character art style and dive into my first bravely default because of my love for quality RPGs.

[@alicematalice]

You get used to it quickly, hope you enjoy!

[@motownmike7509]

What new rpg has the content the oldest ones did? New games are all about action combat and graphics. Give me a game like this with a bunch of classes and 80-100 hours of grind and you got my money.

[@zannyspellslinger4610]

special shout out to bravebearer with bard subjob for breaking the game. the inate one BP gained per turned along with shut up and dance gives you an endless turn of setup

[@CP86164]

3 min in the video and it was already a huge help.Thanks for that👍👍👍

[@Ramsey276one]

I enjoy experimenting , I just came here during Chapter 4 cause I got a bit lost... and rather not waste too much time XD Thanks for the start explanation!

[@KallenScarlet]

Was fun to watch this, even if I have never played either game outside of the demo of the first...man, that was so long ago.

[@sadeknight9112]

My favorite trick that carried me through the end game was a Spirit Master and Shield Master duo. The Shield Master could survive any hit and the Spirit Master can heal and even resurrect from beyond the grave so the domino effect is practically wiped off the map entirely.

[@dxjxc91]

I use freelancer+bravebarer with sub-job BP cost down and sub-job specialty 2 as a BP battery (with good speed and defences) generating 3-4 BP every turn. Across the board+treat is also good HP/MP restoration at max level.

[@theAmazingJunkman]

Swordmaster’s fluid stance with Shieldmaster sub is a very niche build that can stop any enemy dead in its tracks if they only have single-target physical attacks. I made it specifically to counter Edna, since I didn’t have the vanguard class at the time. It worked like a charm

[@flanoflare2059]

I feel like I'm back in math class trying my best to keep up with this parabola level shit 😭😭😭😭

[@shirokatta4051]

Welcome to game math

[@RetroNutcase]

I do like how you go a lot more in depth on the Jobs and synergies they can provide in this: Is there any chance you might re-visit BD and BS with updated guides similar to this one? I feel like you give a lot more detail and ideas in this video compared to the previous games. Case in point, I feel you missed some of Bishop's greatest strengths with certain abilities. Like the classic Epic Group Cast Benediction, which gives you a full party heal for 24 MP versus White Mage's 40 MP Curaga which may not even be a full heal depending on MND stat. Group Cast on Astrologian is another powerful combo, as it effectively gives you things like party wide elemental/status barriers, and slightly stronger buffs than a Performer (At the cost of not having Perform's multi-buffs, admittedly). I really would love to see this kind of detail and build recommendation from this video done again for Bravely Default and Bravely Second, as it'd make for some good ideas on future playthroughs. Even a writeup would be nice if you'd be up to it and didn't want to dedicate a whole video. Long story short: I suck at coming up with good builds: You on the other hand seem to have a knack for it. HALP.

[@OniBlackMage]

Thanks for watching all the guides... I guess comparing this to how I wrote Bravely Second 5 years ago shows some growth. I know going forward, I intended to continue working on my guides, but I cannot promise revisiting the previous Bravely guides (these guides are very exhausting and time consuming, I'm afraid). Tell you what, if Square Enix decides to port the bravely games with a HD version on any platform, then I will cover the new ports with renewed effort. 👍

[@watchersshadow3323]

I was waiting for you your job guides are awesome

[@leogi7]

Hell Yeah I was waiting for this. thank you!

[@seanpatt88]

Almost every I need.Thanks dude.Fantastic job.👍

[@cdleonv2]

Amazing Breakdown, well done :)

[@QueenViolet8]

I knew you would do a awesome job on this as usual 😆 Thanks 😊

[@jaimeXDgo]

My go to for attackers are 2 swordmasters equiped with 2 swords/daggers and ranger as the subjob, so that I get stronger with each attack, then spam the ninefold thing with multitask and those other 2 abilities from the beast master that rises your attack the more you brave in a turn. The result is that I usually end singles bosses in 2 of those. For defence, I have 1 shieldmaster with 2 shields and revenge from the red mage to gain bp by receiving hits. Everyone else in my party is at critical hp so that the shieldmaster takes every hit (even area ones) and oracle as the subjob. With oracle I can give an elemental atribute to the non-magical attacks of an enemy of my choice, and that element is always one my shieldmaster is immune to.

[@ludivineblais8066]

This video is exactly what I was looking for

[@BrandonPaulLee]

So much value in this video!! Thanks!!

[@jamesa.646]

Shieldmaster+White mage Is my favorite, I love taking all the aggro and occasionally healing

[@jossebrodeur6033]

I think Red Mage might be better for that since you can then focus all your effort on getting that defense up, since your healing is at a static amount.

[@jamesa.646]

@@jossebrodeur6033 AOE healing is a must for me, good idea though!

[@davidlopezrodriguez5564]

Such a great video! Thanks for the help!

[@lucidx88]

Thank u for all your work on this video!

[@blkwng]

Great guide, very informative and to the point. I have a really HUGE complaint but its against the DEVS of the game and not you; it triggers me to NO END that the swordmaster class was designed to take advantage of dual wielding yet theyre precisely the class that gives you the passive to use singled handed weapons as two handed. Its baffles me why in the hell they chose to go this route. Yes, I know I can use sub specialty 2, but hey, I would have had 1 more free skill slot if instead of dual wielding it synergized with two handed.

[@iancrawford2496]

I subscribed from this video. Simply amazing.

[@tristandenny7564]

A word of warning with growth eggs: They are badly described. I have tested this in NG+ and I have found that they do not double your EXP, but add the base EXP back on to itself. Therefore if you equip two of them, you will get triple EXP, rather than quadruple as one would expect from the description The same works for Rob Blind; equipping this with two Givampuli (Good luck getting those) gives 4x the stealable items, rather than 8x.

[@LuminousArc92]

for a lot of fights after getting it I used Seth as a shield master with secondary vanguard and sub job bp cost down (or whatever) and revenge so that whenever he took a hit and gained BP I could brave and freely use The Gift of Courage to power up my hunter Adelle for Humanoid Slayer crit shots or give them to healer Gloria

[@leeman27534]

"the reflect trick (rocking since 1990)" fuck yeah, i loved to do this. sadly didn't work in FF6 unless you were already near the damage cap anyway, but in that game i just used fire shields and meltdown to get crazy as shit spell potential - meltdown being that spell that does fire/wind damage to everything on the field, fire shield making that absorb incoming attack rather than damage you - sort of like using float + quake for easy powerful 'hits everything' without having to worry about killing yourself sort of stuff. 9 especially given vivi can get a skill to boost black magic's damage if it's reflected off an ally. and 12 (pre job, though still doable) you could use this to get around the damage cap, sorta, with a black mage - 3 allies reflecting 3 firagas at 9999 damage means it gets 3 hits in for one spell cast. some games this wouldn't work really, like FFX most skills being single target and no 'attack all' easily doable skills for something like this, or FF6 where spells are basically halved if multicast, then the reflections are also halved - so you'd do 4 hits of 1/4th damage and it'd be kinda pointless outside of maybe same with the ff12 way to get around 9999 damage cap.

[@runeblade6596]

Swordmaster paired with phantom can get guaranteed multitasks and auto crit with the two specialties and works super well with solid stance. If you have an oracle on the team to give an elemental buff to their attacks or a pictomancer to set up daub then the auto crits can be highly relevant. You could also pair it with aspir or drain attack so that results guaranteed isn't sucking your mp too much and hp restoration for every hit helps compensate a swordmaster's mediocre defense. You can also use become the lightning for further attack buffs. It's not the best once you get legendary levels for the jobs but it's there well before you get ninefold flurry. Fourfold flurry could do roughly the same damage but you can't pair it with drain attack or indiscriminate rage.

[@Dr_Smash]

I used Swordmaster (main) + Shieldmaster (sub) as a retaliation tank. When you compensate for SWM's lower defenses (such as with a Guardian in each hand while utilizing Dual Wield) it can deal as much damage as it takes. With using SHM's specialty 2, you can use Defender of the People to build up BP (while having Revenge for self) and Fluid Stance w/ Fluid Style punishes enemies and bosses with a counter that actually knocks them down -1 BP when attacking an individual unit that the character is defending. Now I have seen downsides to this as you need to compensate with constant healing and temporary hitpoints to ensure they don't get knocked out too quickly, but having a spiritmaster in party helps with this due to their specialty 2, reraise, and regeneration. Wanna have fun trolling enemies for getting to antsy? Try this combo.

[@Mario497]

Oracle can make every boss after it really easy with elemental suppliment. You can pass an element to the enemy that your are immune to and take 0 damage

[@Ramsey276one]

That’s thinking with Buffs! XD

[@khianidude]

There is one nitpick I have. Weapon proficiency affects Phys/Mag Damage, not ATT, otherwise proficiency would have no effect at 999 ATK. This is easily provable by unequipping and equipping a Lore passive on a 999 ATK character. 999 ATK is a hard cap, so anything affecting ATK is useless if you're bunned up to 999. Bard can buff Phys/Mag Damage which is why it works even on a max attack character.

[@SkyFalllast]

Saved in my Favorite folder thank you for the info. It was starting to get overwhelming for me trying to figure out combo styles and being horrible at math

[@johnnyscifi]

I'm still repping free for all, and berserker fury. I like the chaos!!!

[@celestialkitsune]

You mentioned the miniboss in Savalon but I noticed by that point you were level 87, and at 77 you can just use the Obliterate passive from the final dungeon in Chapter 6 to simple chain battles that way with Queen Wiki-Wikis. I did that and ended up with thousands of JP with ease. Not even counting the "JP up" combined with the "JP up and up" skills from Freelancer. Also, the miniboss right by the Hydrangea Hills entrance (the flower monster, forget the name) is also by an entrance to an area transition. And can be done significantly earlier too, due to having about 1/3 the HP. And no adds to eliminate. Not to mention being easier to go back to Halcyonia through the overworld, rather than trekking back through the Savalon Underground to go restock if needed in Savalon.

[@isaachoo1178]

Nice video bro, thanks

[@joeyjose727]

I used Freelancer’s Body Slam instead of Godspeed Strike mimic on the Snake because the animation is ridiculously quick, idk if there’s anything faster!

[@Ramsey276one]

Question: Which Game has your favorite version of each Asterisk? Me first BD: SalveMaker BS: Summoner BD 2: Swordmaster/Red Mage Swordmaster because you can go from 3-4 Attacks on 1 BP or TRIPLE COUNTER IF HIT ONCE! XD

[@spacedoyster7686]

So, another interesting thing with the Shieldmaster/Vanguard combo is that it allows the character to build up BP by taking hits for the party, then with Sub Job BP saver, it can freely distribute that BP to the rest of the party before Defending the People to build it up again. If you're looking for a pure tank to support the party with, then it's easily my favorite job combo to work with. Thief's Sub Job Specialty 2 is another way to use those BP intensive skills more readily, since it changes their cost to MP instead. I found it especially hilarious to use with Bravebearer's BP Bump to effectively give my entire party 3 BP every time the Thief's turn came up. One final note, if you don't mind adding it into the video somehow, would be to include the descriptions of the jobs' Specialty abilities. I legitimately have no idea what Bastion's is, for example, so being able to pause and refresh my memory would be handy. It's probably in the description of the video. I should have checked that first...

[@neobahumuth6]

The amount of BP manipulation avaible to you is what made me think that counter: any actions +1BP was not as bad as I thought to be and borderline needed so that bosses weren't a cakewalk

[@dragonix8527]

I have this saved for later, as I've already been spoiled on several upcoming jobs I have yet to find (still in chapter 3), and I like the surprise. I do have a question though that I have yet to find an answer for. What exactly does your sub job give you compared to your main job? Is it just their usable skills? It seems like I only gain the sub job's spells/attacks when I equip it. Is that correct?

[@shadenox8164]

Yes. By default you only get the sub job spells and attacks. There are certain class traits and equipable skills that let you gain benefits from your sub job such as their weapon proficiencies, stats or traits though, so later the sub job choices can have a much larger effect.

[@renoshires]

Ok so 1 thing I noticed about your desription of Shieldmaster is that you say 'always use defender of the people' which, while it is a great skill, is not as good as something like triple bodyguard or just leaving the others on low life and procing the "protect ally" speciality. Also for Swordmaster multi hit skills and Solid stance do more harm end game cuz all non story endgame boss' have "counter anything" so they are almost guaranteed to have 3BP every time you use 9 fold slash or quad brave basic attacks.

[@wolfy2246]

My Team because why not Seth: White Mage/Bard. Noble sacrifice (for team wipe clutches which actually saved me once), MP saver, Better then ever, Born entertainer and Solar Powered Gloria: Bastion/ Spiritmaster. (Gloria stuff isn't finished yet) Elvis: Dragoon/Berserker. Full-force, Sky high, Indiscriminate rage, Free for all,) Adelle: Pictomancer/Oracle. (isn't finished either)

[@PrettyGuardian]

You're out here doing the lord's work

[@veiotisligon9140]

Dragoon with the skill spears attack first can make a good jump squad

[@Ramsey276one]

Soul Jump I LOL every time XD

[@Ramsey276one]

When I first saw Triple on screen, I had FF8 flashbacks “WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CAST *THRICE* ?! Never been happier I was wrong XD

[@xxthedesirexx4717]

Ahh yes Return of the King

[@gnabaer]

I found, that getting jp was fastest for me by just getting the orbs from grinding the bosses for the job weapons. The +70% from passivs was enough to get a job from 12 to 15 in one giant jp orb. The go to dps for me was focal blast, mimic x3. It hit for around 30-40k a hit with my "setup" beeing only 100crit (thanks to senseis belts) and 999patk with brute force leaving the weapons to be open to have the ones equipt that have usefull passives (the beastmaster spear + holy blade). But i never did any real testing and just went with what worked early on. Also I tought the mimic description was wrong because it seemed that you could not target anyone other than yourself (or i just understand it wrong)

[@lenia272]

try obliterate with monster food and the strongest wiki's in the game. if your strong enough to decimate the aterisk portals so cleanly then u more then have the level requirement to obliterate your way to up to 2k+ base JP in about 15 seconds. with enough luck on the wiki's u can legendary your job on all 4 chars in a single fight

[@neobahumuth6]

it's worth to point out that growth egg does stack and work with the jp orbs

[@gnabaer]

@@neobahumuth6 the thing with the last job class for me was, that thanks to grinding the job bosses I had more than enough (capped out at 99 after an hour or so) of the jp orbs and had all the jobs maxed out. But against the bosses the last job class seems quit useless. With ~120 hours play time (I left the console on for a few days) the damage was very lacking. I guess if you maxed out either enemys defeated or hours played it would deal more dmg but my first comment was just about the fact, that even without much setup you deal more than enough dmg to easyly beat the game on normal. (I have to admit I do not even know what exacly the difficulty changes enemy wise). The only real "problem" I had was the job boss that refelcts physical dmg. I just had to revive 3 out of 4 party member after the fight and could not "afk" farm it.

[@Kai-uj8tg]

My favourite class is phantom because results guaranteed is just so good 😌😌 with red mage as main, constant spellcasting thanks to nuisance 😌😌 oh and did I mention hellblade death throes??? Wham on the brave accessories and then u can buff urself and end with death throes then go all out. Honestly one turns a lot of bosses with the red mage + phantom and phantom + hellblade main sub respectively

[@hgod]

Thank you so much for this!!

[@jettythesunfish]

My final team setup (that is, upon defeating the final boss) was: Seth: Phanton/Thief Gloria: Spiritmancer/White Mage Elvis: Red Mage/Black Mage Adelle: Swordmaster/Hellblade

[@cerromeceo]

Nice

[@Gooong]

This game series reminds me of Disgaea in spirit. Like the game is too hard and grinding doesn't really help. But you are supposed to learn about the game's jobs and skills and create broken monsters that would destroy any challenge (In Disgaea it was finding loophole in grinding where you would do pretty much get 10 battle's worth of exp in 1).

[@shadenox8164]

10 battles worth of XP in 1 I'd argue is the kind of numbers you'd get in Disgaea when you're still learning how to do it.

[@plagueamer4877]

My experience with the arcanist is thinking it would be bad due to hitting team mates, but trying it out anyways. Followed by being utterly flabbergasted when shield master seth blocked the entire attack for the party and took no damage. After seeing the biggest weakness of the job being nullified it easily became my favorite in the game.

[@Flamerax1]

What do you mean by HP MP converter for the Hell Blade set up you were talking about? I only see Convert MP as a passive I'm also only on Chapter 5 but I've spent the time to grind all my jobs to level 12 so I dont have the level 15 yet for everyone

[@shiny9690]

HP/MP Convertor is, I think, the Level 15 skill for Red Mage. It's an equippable passive skill.

[@Demi-Joker]

At the endgame, Elvis was kind of kinda there. He was a Bard + Pictomancer, but was formerly BM + RM (idk why I used BM + RM instead of RM + BM). Then there's Gloria. Holistic Medicine let's her group-cast Reraise because WM + Spiritmaster is just built different. Adelle is where it starts getting disgusting, though. Adelle was Shieldmaster + Bastion, and I gave her Executioner's Blade (the Swordmaster weapon), so I'm sure you know where this is going. But Seth, though. *H O O B O Y* He's a Bravebearer + Thief wielding Givampalui (the Thief weapon) and Vengeance (the Phantom weapon) that SHAMELESSLY abuses everything. Godspeed Strike being unable to miss, all the while exceeding 9999 more often than not? Check. Giving the entire party a BP at the cost of MP? CHECK. The stats of Shaggy Rogers using his FULL POWER?!............................. *I'VE CREATED A MONSTER* Seth alone is enough incriminating evidence to keep me locked up even after dying, Gloria and Adelle are accomplices, and Elvis is too high on booster buns to even know what's going on. Anyways, I haven't gotten any sleep in the past couple days, so I'm just gonna go.

[@watchersshadow3323]

Hey so a question what would you think of Beastmaster with the sub job of salve-maker..think that would be a good combination?

[@exalt1470]

Counter-savvy with phantom should be considered. This allows the squishier phantom to attack bosses without worry, and when combined with other abilities, this means that the phantom will get bp back if the boss tries to counter.

[@exalt1470]

I've heard that shieldmaster with bard sub-job can actually be fruitful, but I wouldn't know.

[@exalt1470]

Can I have some class leveling recs? For Seth I have Spiritmaster, white mage, and bard maxed I think. For Gloria, Vanguard, Berserker, and Bastion. For Elvis, Black Mage, red mage, pictomancer. For Adelle, freelancer, ranger, phantom. Most have one or two partly leveled.

[@Ramsey276one]

Saw so many video comments on Godspeed Strike Spam And then I fought Bosses that go NOPE in physical. I knew better XD

[@ivannatinkle8196]

Im building adelle as a monk so I can save on weapons and this helped me alot

[@agirlyman]

This game is insane!

[@Fronswath]

Thanks Oni!!

[@owo2350]

just wondering this, can you use mimic with the beastmaster's monster abilities? like you don't waste the monsters because you used mimic

[@OniBlackMage]

Ooo, that is a great idea to try out

[@owo2350]

@@OniBlackMage I was thinking of using a beastmaster/freelancer for big stats and was wondering if mimic worked like that since it does the same with item and money

[@garthmaul3204]

The Vangaurd is such a good secondary class. I'm really surprised it didnt show up much on this list. Sub job bp saver for free ultimatums and bp hand outs