Which Legendary Beast is BEST in Pokemon Gold/Silver?

[@jacobkohr7243]

Gonna be really interesting to see how things go with Lugia and Ho-oh especially since they start with base 100 power stab moves in gen 2.

[@redmist6131]

Yeah that's going to be a fun one but the one I'm waiting to see is swampert in fire red leaf green

[@avatarmufasa3628]

youd think it would be fast, but i suspect theyll have to go to the pokemon center a lot, just to restore powerpoints (they only get 5), they get gust at level 22. Both can learn tm31 maybe theres other accessible tms, but that will be an annoying feature

[@Lost_Chef-RPM]

Lugia especially, Aeroblast is an insane move. Might be a candidate for minimum battles honestly.

[@somegal-89]

My prediction is that most of the game will just melt

[@AyranLP]

Scotts thoughts has done that exact video. Was honestly super interesting

[@jzyyz]

Deleting Bite on Raikou so early feels like a blunder - that's its only coverage option that utilizes its base 115 SpAtk, making it stronger in most cases than Headbutt, and with the same flinch chance. Could have used it for Bruno's Onix, allowing retention of Reflect, and possibly Jasmine's Steelix (even though Steel resists Dark, the phys/special stat difference in both Raikou and Steelix is massive). I suspect it would have saved time on the various Hiker type NPCs not shown in the footage as well.

[@lenlimbo]

I agree. Dark moves being special meant that in the 2nd gen they were still a legit move against many steel types, who tended to have a lot of physical defense, but not so much special. Another blunder is not teaching Return earlier. After 25 level ups or so, plus how many steps he had walked at that point, Return probably would have been stronger than Headbutt, and in any fight that flinches aren't required, the better move.

[@zeemilios9327]

What is this? Legitimate critisim in a KZbin comment without calling the creator a slur? Unheard of.

[@aceclover758]

Maybe he forgot bite was a special move? I forget many times in gen 2 as well I didn’t even realize it till reading this comment

[@ShinyTillDawn]

@@zeemilios9327 Restoring my faith in humanity? Nah: that's impossible!

[@Moneytakerbaby]

He made mistakes at a few points. At the very end of the run, him not healing the PP of Suicune before the fight was literally why he lost. Full HP at Blastoise and he had to reset cause of it, and that probably added 15 minutes of game time.

[@GymLeaderGBP]

AJ stepped up big time on this one. Always spot on editing but this one really takes the cake

[@Ultimaximus]

I love the display with all of their moves

[@tammytheranger7645]

Jrose really let AJ cook.

[@SimplyAJ]

Glad ya liked it! I just wanted to make sure I was able to show all the data in a cohesive manner haha.

[@Altair1243WAR]

Chock it up to whatever, you always have solid timing on jokes, etc... and anytime we're talking about moves/stats, and so on it's really clear where to look for what we need to see Overall really solid skills that you should be proud of. I don't usually see editing so clean

[@SimplyAJ]

@@Altair1243WAR Aha, thanks so much for the kind words!

[@jaynelson7564]

This is why Jrose is top tier. He's giving us 3 videos worth of content in one.

[@spacedoutgaming7532]

if you like this style of video (Pokemon race), I highly recommend you check out "Eggsceptional" - does the runs in firered, great content

[@calebjohnson9740]

He really does the most for us

[@TheJ0kerr]

I'm conflicted tbh

[@is1spang478]

Gym Scott thoughts did a similar video.

[@jharrisbrooks]

I love him. Another great poketuber is Scott’s thoughts. He’s very thorough. He has tons of videos too.

[@youtube-kit9450]

Deffo agree on the hidden power call if you don't manipulate IVs. The disparity in times between good and bad IVs would be big in gen 1, but would be absurd if you had a good pokémon with a 70 BP HP ice to tear through the mid-late game vs. A pokémon with dunno, a 30 BP HP grass or bug getting brick walled by Lance's Dragonite or something.

[@Dragostorm21]

The fact that the BP also changes is genuinely insane. What were they thinking?

[@MishKoz]

​@@Dragostorm21hidden power was always meant to be a funny little gimmick move that was "mysterious" as you'd never know what type/power it'd be. But in practice, it ended up becoming this ubiquitous coverage move for special attackers.

[@ianover6838]

@@Dragostorm21 Probably that people wouldn't go full sweatlord on their games?

[@youtube-kit9450]

Hidden power was supposed to be a gimmicky hihihi move, and outside of competitive, where IVs were a complete nightmare until like, gen 9 anyways, the HP type barely actually matters since nearly always you'll get a either a shit HP type or shit BP, meaning it's niche at best.@@Dragostorm21

[@ThePenisMan]

@@ianover6838 they started out as a trading card company, I’m pretty sure they could predict this fine

[@Eliward789]

I’m respecting the hell out of this because most people would make this 3 separate videos

[@anis6800]

well to be fair he did 3 videos for most other trios such as the legendary birds. Still cool though

[@willardpatterson706]

I think he should divide it up. He could put in the same effort and get the advantage of 3 videos making add revenue.

[@TheMiggler_]

Honestly I’d rather have 3 videos, there is too much going on on the screen for me to follow along 😅 Edit: okay it’s not that bad, still I would like 3 videos, the more jrose content the merrier

[@NecromancyForKids]

He said in the past that he preferred to do them as singular videos so that the videos were shorter, and also so people can easily skip runs they don't want to watch

[@LunarWingCloud]

To be fair Scott's Thoughts also did this as one video very recently

[@chrisr393]

I thoroughly enjoyed this "side by side comparison" style of video. Keep up the great work!

[@paulgrimes818]

I think Suicune did the best overall, but Entei was such a surprise come-back king that it's an honorable mention. Raikou is just let down by it's move-pool, but then again, somehow it got the best time in your play-through. So, they all win in different ways, but Suicune seemed to have the most consistent time of things.

[@python1972]

I think Raikou would be more consistent if Bite wasn't deleted

[@isaacpaz9287]

Raikou straight up is the best of the beasts. Entei is over rated, Suicune has a lousy move pool, but Raikou even w move pool is the most diverse in stats where it counts.

[@Moneytakerbaby]

Yeah Suicune did the best. It would have had the best time for Jrose forgot to use PP before Red, and he had a PERFECT FIGHT going up to Blastoise and had zero PP lmao! So that was the reason for the time loss

[@apostolis.diamantopoulos]

Yeah suicune would have the best time if he had healed which wasted even more time, and he should have taken a couple of type specific tms before making it all the way to Red. Raikou maybe would be even faster though if he didn't unlearn bite so early

[@enitheway]

Yes, I would like to see a similar run with Legendary Birds. Mainly due to how much differently would Moltres perform in Gen 2 compared to Gen 1 from starting move set alone.

[@AzureFlute]

I wasn't expecting a Beasts race challenge from you! This is great!

[@Nightwolfmoviemaker]

Great video. I think rain dance+thunder would make a difference, only takes a turn to set up and then you can spam thunders; big power increase from spark

[@arthurjeannin3357]

Honestly it's not even an "I think" statement at this point, it would be tremendously helpful with Raikou's speed and sp attack!

[@CalamityVirus]

Yeah, that was a surprise he didn't do it, specially since Entei used SD / SB on the first trip.

[@3eve0n]

I believe that would get walled by Venusaur both resisting thunder and replacing rain with sunny day. Would've been interesting to see get tried, at least.

[@jzyyz]

@@3eve0n You'd just use Crunch for Venusaur after the Sunny Day. Raikou will still get one Thunder in first and a resisted STAB Thunder is still 90 power.

[@TheRampantTragedy]

Regarding spinners, although these runs are typically done vanilla with the only modification being a GameShark code to edit the starter, you may want to consider modding the game further. For example, you could change the behavior of optional trainers to remove their "vision" range, causing them to only battle you when you interact with them. Just something to keep in mind if you plan on doing a lot of runs in Gen II and beyond.

[@franslair2199]

I feel like Red's Snorlax in gen 2 is kind of a reverse Brock from gen 1. It's an insane wall for primarily special attackers and if your solo run pokemon can't deal with it it will have a bad time. Unfortunately the solution is generally going to be curse + return.

[@DJFracus]

why I think all the "you should've used HP Dragon or HP Ice" commenters in the Unown video were wrong, he would've gotten hard stuck on Red that way

[@franslair2199]

@@DJFracus overall there's just no good answers. Any special type has big problems with snorlax. Psychic less so, but has big problems with Karen. Rock has a severe Steelix problem. Steel isn't very good. Every single other physical type has an immunity. Unown is just fundamentally not an interesting pokemon, there's no strategy to it, you just check at the start of the run which hidden power is mathematically the best.

[@DJFracus]

@@franslair2199 If HP Psychic's STAB boost is needed to get past Red and nothing else could, then it is in fact the best answer, even if it gets slowed down by Karen.

[@mephisto5729]

​@@DJFracus one unknown with HP psychic... How can you pass Karen and her umbreon, murkrow and houndoom xD Is like in G1 and magikarp, caterpie and other poke with only normal atk vs the exorcist in the lavender tower (same for Agatha)

[@DJFracus]

@@mephisto5729 did you not watch the video bud?

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

I think Entei has to have it since you were feeling out your strategies during that run, and since the time difference is so minor. If you did another Entei run knowing what you learned it would definitely be faster.

[@bruuhhhh]

Minor time difference? The difference was nearly 7 hours! 1:05:38

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

@@bruuhhhh Damn, you're right.

[@shanemiller1182]

@@bruuhhhhAm I missing something? The time difference is 5 minutes

[@bruuhhhh]

@@shanemiller1182 if you go to the time stamp jrose accidentally says minutes instead of hours for raikous time

[@shanemiller1182]

@@bruuhhhh I rewatched that clip like 5 times and somehow missed it every time haha

[@Digital_Goose]

You don't owe us the Count, and I'm glad you've taken the right break from it. But hearing it again this time was a special moment. Appreciate you Jrose 🧛🧛‍♂🧛‍♀

[@johnnynunez1843]

I’m super happy I actually get to watch a Jrose video at around the same time it comes out! I found your channel a few months back and have been watching so many of your videos. Majority of them are from 2-3 years ago though. Love giving you support! Please keep these coming!

[@NiDe500]

Holy shit. A fantastic idea! A Gen 2 solo run with a legendary trio, including Suicune?! Let’s go! Thank you Jrose, been very bored at home waiting for things to thaw out!

[@ProxyExpy]

I love this video! The dynamic of three Pokemon racing is great. I would want to see how Mewtwo does just to get a bearing on how fast we should expect Pokemon to win in Gen 2 vs. Gen 1.

[@youtube-kit9450]

Mewtwo learns the three elemental punches and starts with STAB confusion. Damn, that'd be an absolute fucking massacre. Remember how Abra tore gen 2 a new one once it arrived in Goldenrod. Imagine that with over double the stats and being able to attack from the beginning.

[@lenlimbo]

@@youtube-kit9450 Curious enough, one of the very first obligatory trainers in Ruby and Sapphire walls Mewtwo something fierce. You are forced to rely on Struggle to get past that poochyena. I don't remember if there is a similar trainer in gen 2, though. I think it isn't but...

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@lenlimbo I don't think you even meet a dark type until either a random trainer or a rocket guy in mahogany

[@lenlimbo]

@@youtube-kit9450 Then yeah, Mewtwo ain't getting walled.

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@lenlimbo hahaha no he won't. Gen 2 having the punches as TMs in goldenrod really invites an ass-whooping of colossal dimensions for those that learn them. But also thanks for the chuckle of the mighty god of destruction being walled by a pupperoni lol

[@ChrisMcGiggity]

Was not expecting the count impression 🤣 way to go jrose! Great video as always. was very interesting to watch. I'd also be curious if you would consider doing this in hg/ss with the physical/special split and updated moves to see if, and how much of a difference it would make! Anyway keep up the great work jrose, always look forward to your videos ❤

[@Nerex7]

A 3-in-1 special? Holy moly jrose. You could've released these one by one and it would have probably bothered no one! Amazing.

[@ShinyTillDawn]

He should've as it would have given him more views and money, which are vital for his job.

[@danielbozza]

ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS SO FAR U HAVE MADE !!! From someone who has probably watched all your videos. That was entertaining. And well put together

[@YukeWeiss]

It's super cool to see this style of video given bunching up Pokemon is likely going to be needed. I also can't believe how they shook out. Seeing your rules put through though were very interesting :)

[@c4ar1zard]

I was already subscribed but your Caterpie trio run and now this vid in particular, along with all the other content you put out, have been absolutely top tier. Mad good content

[@jaybagido775]

Hey jrose, love this video format. Transitioning from gen 1 to gen 2 i appreciate the explanation for each type and pokemon; sprinkled in other facts.. Makes the videos digest better and follow along. Very nostalgic for this and all upcoming videos. Happy NYE 🎉

[@smaugthefiredrake7840]

This was a brilliant video, the ongoing comparison really added to the experience. Would def love to see another with the birds!

[@milesrodger3724]

I love not using hidden power. It’s such a boring way to maneuver through the Gen. Great video

[@calamelli209]

Agreed. I know some solo runners like Scott's Thoughts just manipulate for the best IV's and Hidden Power to suit the Pokemon, but I like Jrose's more raw-feeling runs without them. Scott goes for the absolute best-case scenario, Jrose goes for the best realistic run that other players can easily replicate if they want to.

[@teelo12000]

Plot-twist: none of the above because they all just flee on the first turn

[@ShinyTillDawn]

LMFAO

[@jamesmeppler6375]

Not really a plot twist unless you dont know much about pokemon..

[@usuario15965]

Suicuine didnt run,he fought a lot

[@robertholtz769]

I really enjoyed this style compared to individual runs. Obviously this was at least three to four times the effort and time to produce. However, it was well done, fun to watch, and fun to have an immediate comparison of the runs. Well done, as always!

[@eco909]

Imagine being a trainer and being happy with your lvl 6 Bellsprout. Then a new guy who just startedshows up for a battle and pulls out a legendary Pokemon you didn't think even existed

[@FredFuchs77]

I’d just walk straight out of the match and leave my Bellsprout behind.

[@andriypredmyrskyy7791]

I gotta say, there's something hilarious about you saying "maybe I didn't have a berry or something" as the video shows you scrolling past a singular berry, somewhere around the 8:40 mark.

[@KiryuuYoshiya]

my personal bias goes out to raikou. it gets massively shorted in gold and silver because it doesnt learn thunderbolt, leaving you with either spark or thunder, as well as physical moves on its mediocre attack stat for coverage. the fact that it clutched out first at that level is nuts. its also just my favorite out of the three ;) now... birds 🐦

[@meiswaffle101]

A few people mentioned it but him dropping Bite so early also handicapped Raikou, dark is special in Gen 2

[@KiryuuYoshiya]

yeah the dark coverage of bite would have been good to keep until crunch i think, since its bp isnt that bad. hindsight is 20/20 for a reason though

[@mewr11]

For Suicune's fight against Morty, Surf (95 BP STAB = 142.5 effective power) actually does more than Bite (60 BP super-effective = 120 BP) - that probably would have been enough to secure the OHKO on Haunter, though Gengar obviously still poses an issue.

[@jaeusa160]

I'd give it to Entei. It didn't need to significantly change tact in order to close out. The level and time differences are really so minor that I think it would be unfair to give them heavy weight in the comparisons. I think the fact that it could just go in and unga bunga with Return rather than Curse, Rest, Toxic, Protect shenanigans really speaks to it carrying itself the best.

[@YhwachTheAlmighty.]

Return is a physical move I believe so entei benefits from it.

[@InfiniteZamasu]

Yeah my boy Entei just clapped vs Suicune and Raikou needing shenanigan plays

[@SomeGuy-ty7kr]

lmfao, unga bunga

[@sorsrusdavid353]

"unga bunga return" yupp... Entei is the best

[@joshpettis1160]

Bro you are my favorite Pokemon creator bar none. Found you at the end of 2022 when my work days were 10-12 hours and you were doing a video like every day. Really helped me get thru that December

[@Onmur]

Oh, baby, a triple! In the Bugsy fight, Suicune could have used Bite, instead of Water Gun, since it has effectively the same power, and could have flinched Scyther out of Fury Cutter.

[@AnimeFanX11]

was thinking this too, itd be more optimal

[@biginjapan3]

he most likely would have defeated Miltank as well using Bite

[@MrHitStick757]

first of all - incredible editing done here & fantastic commentary. I was able to follow along perfectly even while in meetings & doing laundry. can’t lie, Raikou winning actually shocked me given the terrible level up STAB moves, but given Red has nothing super effective to damage it, I think that’s the difference man. Great video once again bro!

[@YMasterS]

The reason I stopped doing gen 2 solo challenges was that almost all of them bouled down to Return+Curse+Detect+Leftovers. It took the fun out of it. Considered banning curse, but then all I'd be doing is going back at slightly higher levels until a strat worked.

[@aceclover758]

Leftovers isn’t available till Kanto anyway

[@YMasterS]

@@aceclover758 neither is Red...

[@aceclover758]

@@YMasterS Leftovers doesnt make the run boring if it’s only in Kanto, with thr Kanto gym leaders Being garbage

[@YMasterS]

@aceclover758 yes it does, because the climax ends up being identical or nearly identical to the other 80 you've done.

[@arsenicarrow6333]

This competition format is awesome and does a great job of breaking the monotony of seeing one Pokemon go through the game at once. I would absolutely love to see more videos like this in the future.

[@pk5727]

I do like your count impression. Good start to the year for jrose.

[@The_Starkindler]

Oh hell yeah, thank you for dropping a video right when I need something fun to think about! I love how it feels like listening to a sports radio announcer in your videos. It is legitimately exciting!

[@Jabadamazo]

I swear the person who made the back sprites had a vendetta against Pokemon.

[@calamelli209]

Fantastic video as usual! I hope we see more of these versus-style videos from you in the future. Scott's Thoughts has been doing them for a while and they're always fun to watch, but you and your videos have a totally different vibe to them.

[@red-eyessolares1817]

Great way to start off the new year! Honestly, with how close these runs were for Gold and Silver at the end, Raikou probably would still be the one to win since the final strategy against doesn’t need as many levels compared to Suicune or Entei.

[@brandondawson4086]

Go Raikou!! Awesome job JRose11 and AJ here's to another certified banger! Can't wait to see what the Lugia versus Ho-Oh video will look like!

[@burntalive]

The editing on this one was really good! Perfect bouncing between each one to really get a good comparison of each one along the journey. I say suicune is the best of the 3. Even though raikou had the best time it struggled the most because of its movepool for most of the game.

[@nguyenbuihamy4480]

Thank you Jrose. I’m actively growing a third eye to have each eye dedicated to watching one of your legendary beast run

[@ShadyHitchhiker]

Very excited to see the Legendary birds in this format I know you said you gave the rival the advantage pokemon, but I don't think we saw a single rival battle, did we? Silver really letting the Rival Fival name down

[@runeruunkur2778]

The legendary beasts are my absolute favorite trio! Suicune being my favorite(and crystal being my first pokemon game), I'm biased in that suicune did best. For the fact that you went through (most of) the second half of the game w the same move set as if had in the elite four, I'd say it's first place in my heart. Honestly, it was exciting to see just how similar the beasts were. I do think Raikou got a disadvantage without either thunderbolt or something similar to help it along, but he's still a good beast! I love your videos and they're so lovely to watch, thank you for this spectacular 3-in-1 and AJ, as always, did a fantastic job with editing! Can't wait to see if you do ho-oh & lugia!

[@Lyanhyrt]

Great video. I'm team Raikou so I'm happy to see it was ythe fastest and without prior knowledge of how a run should go. I'm rooting for Ho-oh in the next head to head challenge run.

[@derekmarshall3530]

If this was a dog race, we all just won the Trifecta!!! Very well done video as usual, JRose!!! You are by far my favorite pokemon run creator it's been 3years and still on top

[@xard4spl]

OMG it's Jrose! Your videos brighten up my day whenever you release. You are doing great.

[@jasonlaine3403]

huge props for being the first channel i've seen pronounce raikou correctly

[@thegamemanic1911]

Love a Jrose video to kick off the new year!

[@catlinkerswell3696]

Jrose. You're amazing man. A lot of people do pokemon videos. When a video pops up from you I am thinking "well if jrose did it I'd better check it out" You are the best pokemon youtuber man. Your voice is legendary

[@anonymous-mathematician]

I couldn't help myself when he mentioned the inconsistency of his strategy in Cianwood, so here's a little math: Entei was a two-shot with surf from Poliwrath, which was a four hit K.O. with headbutt from Entei, both moves are 100% accurate. There are now two ways to lose this battle: 1. Get no crits in the first three attacks and also less than two flinches 2. Get only one crit in the first two attacks and no flinches. If one gets two crits, Poliwrath has no time to take Entei out, similarly for a crit and a flinch or two flinches. Bulbapedia states that headbutt flinches with a chance of 3/10, crits in gen II occur with a fixed unboosted rate of 17/256. As crits and flinches can occur at the same time to the same effect, we can use to separate binomial distributions to find the probabilities of losing: For case 1: (1-17/256)^3 * [(1-3/10)^3 + 3 * (1-3/10)^2 * 3/10] ~= 64%, and for case 2: 2 * (1-17/256) * 17/256 * (1-3/10)^2 ~= 6%. Therefore the success rate of this strategy is about 30%, which even exceeds the bound of 25% that Jrose set for himself. Even though it looks inconsistent it is not as bad as it seems (if I did my math right) Thank you for reading my nonsense, if you made it to here :)

[@FieldyGK]

Love this! But from what I can see, you haven’t taken into account Poliwrath’s chance to crit as well? So it would be even less likely to get the win, but not by that much.

[@theneedforspeeder9575]

Bruh

[@andyhuggins9966]

This video is epic! We’ll done! I’d love to see more side-by-sides like this for things like future legendaries Maybe even something like “Which generation’s special legendary (mew, celebi, victini…) would do best through Pokémon Fire Red/Leaf Green”

[@nathanrice7352]

A cool idea for a video would be a no items OUTside of battle. So if you want to heal or use an elixer during the elite four, you have to find windows during the battle to do it. Also opens up X items for a run. Showcases a whole different set of strats.

[@youtube-kit9450]

Would it be, though? This means every battle you can just use a bunch of x items to maximize attack, heal and sweep. X items trivialize literally every battle that you don't get one-shot at.

[@TonioQuo7]

Ah my favorite strat of spam items until I win, exceptional

[@nathanrice7352]

@@youtube-kit9450 There's obviously limits to that, which would be interesting. Can you afford enough X items to use them on every battle? If so, what does that do to minimum battles and minimum level challenges? Can X items make up for starting EVERY elite 4 battle with partial health and pp? I don't know the answer to those questions. Hence a good video.

[@nathanrice7352]

@@TonioQuo7 How is doing one video of that worse in your mind than the 80th video of, "Not strong enough, time to grind"? This showcases the limits in a new way.

[@TonioQuo7]

@@nathanrice7352 I never said it was worse? Just sounds like a boring idea, just as a ton of other things could be, item spam is just amongst those boring ideas lol

[@WherenextPK]

I’m so glad you did the post game in this video too, so many people save it for a second video but I love it all in one. Keep up the great work! Thanks for all the entertainment! 🙌🏼👏🏼

[@burgess_and_his_bike]

1.5 hour indoor training ride and I just found what’s going to keep me entertained. The legendary beast himself - JRose

[@SilverStormShadow]

I would have to say Suicune was the best Pokemon in this run. It would have had a massive lead on time if it didn't have to leave Red twice, and it did that while having the lowest attacking stats. This was a great video, 3 videos worth of content in 1 is fantastic. The editing and commentary throughout were really on point here. I would definitely love to see a video like this for the Legendary Birds in the future.

[@marcorossi2854]

Now we need Walking Wake, Gouging Fire and Raging Bolt solo runs😅😅

[@Adamcos123]

I like this style of videos with a more direct comparison between three Pokemon at once. Thanks alot!

[@HyperFocusMarshmallow]

Nice showdown. I say it’s a tie within the margin of error. Some different strengths and weaknesses for each of them. I liked that the end needed some different strategy for each of them. Headbut, return and irontail as a combo doesn’t exactly showcase that they are elemental super dogs.

[@claytonnoyes6002]

Loved this video.... Even if it did go live at 2am! Loved seeing how similar the beasts were in time and level. Looking forward to the next one!

[@EvilApple567]

Great compilation idea, although I'll just skip to the next step of rankings and say Articuno is the worst of all 32:15 Machamp actually has slightly (5 BST) higher Sp Def than Def

[@svensel3756]

I think we should give a bit more credit to Entei, as, as you said, he was the first one you did a run with, so any strategies that made the Raikou and Suicune run so smooth, you basically tried during the Entei run. Also, I find it hilarious that for the optimal build for Raikou you didn't need its special attack and speed, the two things it is known for xD Looking forward to the birbs!

[@michaelsimeone9524]

Raikou's first battle against Chuck wasn't bad luck, he used Mind Reader turn 1.

[@pokerux3380]

I loved this video! Seeing all 3 dogs compared side by side throughout the run made what would have already been a fun video, extra entertaining!

[@lewiscarter5575]

Looks like Jrose has been watching some Scott's Thoughts! 😉 I hope you guys do a collab at some point.

[@Augmentationed]

This was a great one man! Editing is on point.

[@HelloJohnRyan]

I would've been interested to see Suicine square up against the Azalea Town Rival with Razor Leaf, but this is still 10/10. Thanks!

[@DonnybrookCauliflower]

Dude I gotta be real with ya. I've started putting your videos on to fall asleep, then I re watch them after to see the content. Your fans love you bro

[@TristanMCN]

Another great video, Jrose. Love the idea of banning hidden power. It's my least favorite part of any gen2 runs. Especially the suspiciously large number of streamers who say they randomly got HP ice.

[@NickArmanino]

Would love to see the legendary birds done in a similar way! Keep up the great content man!

[@Totalgamer-dl1cu]

Suicune for sure. It had a huge lead at Red. If it didn't have to leave twice the time would have easily been ahead of Raikou.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

That ended up actually being a really good video. It was impressive seeing the three beasties compete, and the strategies JRose had to come up with. Fantastic time. As for the three birds... I don't know if that one would be more interesting. Looking at the birds' move sets, it would definitely take a lot longer: they have their level up sets balanced around being able to level up... so no starting out with Drill Peck for Zapdos or Ice Beam for Articuno; plus their TM list isn't nearly as good as the beasts' lists. Lugia and Ho-oh on the other hand... Negatives: -While not as bad as many Gen 1 runs or an Unown run, only getting one level-up move every 11 levels is definitely a bother. - Your 1 natural move for a while being low PP while with your next one at 22 being a low-power Gust... that's going to make grinding or longer sections (like the Rocket assaults) a huge bother. - Though expected of Legendaries, Slow level up group. That plus the abysmal move learning rate will also make going through longer sections a bore... Positives: - Stats were absolutely phenomenal back then, and still incredibly good today. Nothing's going to pose a threat for a long while. - Recover at 33 is going to be a major boon for longer fights or times you might not have super-effective coverage. Though speaking of which... - Their TM list is probably the best JRose has ever worked with. So many options, they have an answer for every fight, especially post-League. I'd probably bet on Lugia as the winner there due to having access to Water and Ice moves, but I could be surprised.

[@jaygamings6888]

I absolutely want to see how the three legendary birds stack up against each other in gen 2 after seeing how interesting this was.

[@KINGBADASS100]

Great video as always Jrose, & I was so happy to see the return of the Count!

[@Consolous]

And just when I made a rock cover of the theme of "Goldenrod City", Jrose came with this gem of a video to start the year. Gen 2 is one, if not, my favorite region. The nostalgia they give me is out of this world and the Pokemon there were always so cool, especially the legendary. Raikou will forever be my favorite legendary dog but they were all amazing.

[@CozyButcher]

New JRose drops? Well Cozy's taking an hour long break from productivity. Worth it. Thanks for uploading this mi fren! Happy 2024!

[@Timetofeelalive]

Man what were they thinking with that Entei backsprite 😂

[@Kolokasidis]

It looks like an angry Gyarados who didn't manage to evolve entirely from Magikarp

[@roamingnyiad]

A whole video about some of my faves from Gen 2, the Legendary Beasts I once thought were dogs. XD I'm quite the fan of this, since Johto was one of my favorite regions despite its flaws. Still have HGSS as one of my ALL TIME fave Pokemon games. Anyway, cool to see how each Beast worked. Wished you did this in Crystal though I get your reasoning for WHY you didn't do it that way, but it might've given Raikou and Suicune better moves to work with between the Move Tutor AND various other tweaks.

[@alexk9152]

Id have to argue entei did the best. Since you said that entei was the first one you did it didnt have the same benefits of the other 2, which would be foreknowledge of strategies. But the fact it was on par with the other 2 means,imo, it did a better job overall.

[@cthululuu]

It’s like 1:30 AM where I am and I was finally gonna pick a video to fall asleep to but then you posted this and now I want to actually watch instead of use for background noise to sleep to

[@ForeverLaxx]

The times and levels are so even that I think the winner goes to Entei. It didn't really have to completely change tactics to pull out a victory like the other two did. Being forced into Curse on a special attacker and Toxic stall on a Pokemon that otherwise had no real trouble up to that point says more about Entei's ease-of-use as it could just keep doing what it had always been doing.

[@chromasus9983]

Right. Especially the Curse strat is kind of something that any Pokémon could theoretically fall back on, so while that is the benefit of Gen II's wider selection of TMs, it shows Raikou's own poor selection in moves when it has to, at the final step, revert to a sort of "general" strategy like Curse buffing. With Suicune, at least its more defensive stats lends it to naturally having a decent ability to take a stall-lean to its movepool (see also Karen's Umbreon). Would say it goes between Entei and Suicune then.

[@gunnervi]

OTOH, Raikou being the only beast that could really succeed with a curse strat is a legitimate advantage that should be reflected in the rankings -- the only question is if its enough to make up for its difficulties earlier in the game.

[@PenelopeStoneVT]

Your transitions and the continued flow of storytelling were amazing. Keep up the great work!

[@canaldecasta]

Jrose losing to Bruno with both Zapdos and Raikou is poetic.

[@TheFreestylebeast]

Jrose much love my boy! I love your videos. Reminds me of childhood and i just enjoy your crazy one pokemon run challenges lol

[@bradrobertson4995]

Why not try Sleep Talk? In GSC it can call Rest. All of the beasts are pretty tanky, so I feel like RestTalk or even MintRest sets might've helped in some inconsistent fights.

[@Zersetzor]

Somehow seeing you pick up the secret potion for Ampharos reminded me of the first time I played gen2. Before gen2 was released [in Germany], a friend of mine had downloaded ROMs of the games, and gave them to me on a floppy disk for my birthday. I can't even remember what language they were in, probably English. In any case, there was a peculiar magic about playing the game without having anything spoiled, or without even the option of asking anyone for information.

[@otaviocamanho1135]

00:02 " say it with me " BADGE BOOST GLITCH!!!

[@perkypenguin1663]

This was such a cool video! I'm very interested to see the legendary birds race in G/S (then again, I'm always interested in whatever videos you have to offer)

[@burningdragon91]

Waiting for a Marowak solo run. Unique moves might help clear the early game.

[@BattIeBear]

Thank you for the Count impression! I respect you don't do it every video anymore, but I do miss it XD

[@SnepperStepTV]

Thoughts about this type of run: How do the legendary birds fair in Johto and compared with the kanto runs, additionally how do the kanto starters fair in the roles of the johto starters.

[@DaKirbinator]

I love hearing people say lottle, reminds me I'm not alone out here. What a great video full of good doggies. The varied strategies were astounding

[@oruam5667]

Hey Jrose! How’s it going? This video right now is a blessing…

[@subzeroRLclips]

Even thought you dont like doing solo runs in gen 2, its still highly appreciated so thank you Jrose

[@geofff.3343]

Against the Scyther with Suicune, I would have used bite on the flinch chance to break fury cutter's run.

[@benediktwindisch2778]

This trio are my favorite legendaries next to the original Regis. Awesome video as always