Brawl Theory | Spirits of the CCTV (Feat.

[@M1CHA3L_YT]

Great video as always, SZT never misses. Also, thanks again for the collab, I had a lot of fun! :D

[@ThatJellyMan]

Yo it's the goat

[@thegreatbeanofbabylonia8295]

darryl solo all in lore

[@abdullah-00777]

You can clear the sleep and spliting concept by the game "Shades" by Nikki. It also shows how shadow who is the main character of this game fights in his sleep.

[@Kyumifun]

4:23 here on KZbin i've once stumbled upon a comment in a community posy which went: "Magic, by definition, is the unknown, the lack of knowledge/perspective. Truly, the recognition of ones existencial limits, takes the magic out of it. The more you learn the more you understand how much you don't know, yet the magic seems so much more distance because of it. We have to be going" To which some other user replied with a continuation on that thesis: "Magic is just a force that, without a proper understanding how the forces behind it work, wields an effect on our shared reality, even if we fail to grasp it. But when magic gets studied AND becomes a guaranteed resulte that you can replicate it becomes technology." Uh yeah, it was so deep i had to screenshot it hence why i'm quoting it so perfectly well.... Anyway, yeah, reading it kinda completly flipped my perspective on magic. So yeah, magic is just advanced technology and you could argue it's near the same as sci-fi which is glorified magic.

[@Kyumifun]

And yes this comment doesn't contribute much to the Starr Park lore itself but i just wanted to share this (kinda soul crushing :/ ) realisation. As always, your theories are amazing Turnip, keep it up

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Keeping it philosophical! (love to see it)

[@johannulloa5991]

And remember that's just a theory. . . A GAME THEORY

[@artsgui]

Maybe the loop isn't just a day long, maybe it's the destiny of Starr park to explode with the fireworks and the green grass, the command of it realised it and restarts from the beginning upgrading the park each time

[@BeaUwU02]

That makes sense if we consider that the main theme of the park allways changes, like to Wild West to Aquapark and then a Circus. Of course these themes could be separated for "regions" of the park but i think its a good guess.

[@OMGoobero]

Bro was holding that fart in for 20 years

[@flooshlikescheese9944]

7:23 ITS CONFIRMED LOLA IS A STAND USER !!

[@Kyumifun]

Even the funny letters that sometimes appear in action scenes are purple/pink-ish just like Lola's Ego

[@flooshlikescheese9944]

@@Kyumifun do you mean the menacing aura?

[@flooshlikescheese9944]

@@Kyumifun ゴ ゴ ゴ

[@marekostrowski769]

So its,, Brawl Stars: into the Brawli-verse''. The green gas leak is a CANON EVENT.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Hey, the multiverse has been canon since the very beginning XD

[@tropicalhighs]

another banger theory!!! keep it up yall love watching stuff im too lazy to theorize myself

[@flamingfireBS]

love seeing this colab, we need more of them!

[@Denjibean]

Collab

[@Negreb25]

Turnip is literally the best theorist out there

[@Denjibean]

I would say matpat is 1 and turnip 2

[@Thanks..]

Ngl i dont have a clue whats going on anymore

[@LARADEKA]

Another Brawl Theory, avenging Kairos... Convergence? Singularity? Not magic but advanced science? The lore caliber makes me want to dive deeper. Time to draw Colette doing a Pepe Silvia meme...

[@mbenes11]

These people, wondering if the investor video is canon Me, who realizes the entry screen for the security camera says "time anomaly"

[@SubZeroTurnip]

;)

[@tty69420]

You deserve more subs

[@SJJ_TheShadow]

True

[@JaKe_7856]

what i think is that officer rik is actually Rico who also kinda uk became mad due to gems

[@GreatTrollger]

Brock had called onto CCTV to say that gumball machine (Rico) came alive due to gems and took away vending machine (reference to Brawlentine animation)

[@JaKe_7856]

@@GreatTrollger oh thanks to tell

[@jp_nona]

the black hole theory makes so much more sense when he said the thing about drifting through space millions of lightyears from another sentient being. also, the radio points out that you extend your hands to all the stars that never existed, which basically means starr park is inside a singularity that has experienced the end of the universe

[@faustitapalomino4535]

I don't know, but I believe that Starr Park is still working, with that kit animation the visitors appear, and everything seems to be normal

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Yet, that's the only instance of it... even after this, we're back to skeletons (probably not real guests) in the swamp of love, hands in the circus animation, and robots in Startoon Studios. I hate to say "time anomaly is the answer" because it's just so lazy, but the way the park's timeline has been laid out recently is all over the place-- and not in a good way

[@GreatTrollger]

@@SubZeroTurnip I think that those people are people turned artificial by Starr Park, since they are incapable of moving, unlike the brawlers, but still give Kit items to scratch as autograph, as if they can be switched between real and artificial at will of Starr Park. Guess it confirms Michael's theory about Starr Park turning people artificial (segment of "Starr Park's EVIL Plan" theory)

[@Ocram0]

I like how we both got a time loop theory! (Mine is on reddit, ghost station third member theory) Maybe it’s actually canon that a time loop happened somewhere in starr park 🤔

[@konstantinroberts9113]

Let me clarify something. One of the effects of gems is that they can separate your soul from your body, and then your soul goes to the sky, through space, through a black hole, into another dimension, and then into a brawler. But some brawlers already have a soul like Colette, "teen spirit" and Lola, with her ego, does that mean that they have two souls?

[@SubZeroTurnip]

It's not that they have two souls, it's that the soul is separated from the "skin" (that's the true name in several WKBRL ads, but it really just means the body). Lola doesn't have a soul when she's using her ego, it's just outside her body. The only real exception to this is Tara, since she can have up to 4 shades. But considering her star power was made before the lore, we can chalk it up to putting gameplay over storytelling

[@konstantinroberts9113]

​@@SubZeroTurnip I just want to understand why only two Brawlers (Colette and Lola) have separated souls, cuz 8-bit killed his own soul (unplugged it) and Gene's soul is trapped in his teapot. And Tara I think that it is her shadow clones not her souls, cuz they don't copy every move.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

@@konstantinroberts9113 Gene's soul is "split" between his teapot and self, that tweet from Paul was pretty old, and I just used it to show that it was tweaked a bit to fit the new lore. As for 8-bit, he could theoretically be splitting as well, but that's the only explanation I personally can think of

[@FRENCHIE_REVIEWS]

Now that we have mutations what you can get from radiation things make more sense

[@5325.]

I think cctv is the timeline star park wants you to believe but the other stuff is really, which is why sometimes the characters would glitch because they are meant to look fake.

[@arkalley2284]

What if Rik found out too much, and they turned him into spike, and in the screen with byron creating poisons there is a sticker note with a human plus cactus equals ?

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Spike comes alive before Rik writes his last log entry, so they exist at the same time-- Rik even mentions him separately

[@creation_abilities]

People in Starr Park use limited types of resources, and at the same time extremely powerful resources. These include: 1.purple matter (gem, ether, and liquid created by Rosa), 2.green matter (soully gas, radiation bodies stored in boxes and gems) 3.energy drinks used by urban residents(Max, Surge, Meg and others)

[@nathanalbanese1472]

What I don’t understand is why last time it was love action and this time it’s animated, with the brawlers. Aren’t brawlers based on real people from Starr Park? Is it possible that this time it took place inside a simulation? I dunno, just a couple ideas

[@SubZeroTurnip]

This was pretty much the subject of the theory before this (the Dead and Alive one), where everything that happens in the real world also happens in the simulation/animated world because they're *parallel* universes, meaning the same events are happening I also used to think that brawlers were based on real people, but it looks like it's kind of the opposite, where real people are turned into brawlers (also covered it in that same theory)

[@nathanalbanese1472]

@@SubZeroTurnip oooh thank you!

[@yeshrunprakashminz]

Notification gang, W video 🗣️

[@vanya25_n]

Present 😼

[@Fnbeasty69]

LESSS GO Subzero back with the fire content🔥🔥🔥

[@harrisblastaar5081]

For the love of god S.O.S. doesn’t mean “save our souls”, at least not officially. Those letters are used cuz the letters S and O in morse code are easy to sign and remember. But if this is intentional by Supercell I’am willing to except the misconception for lore’s sake.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

It's the colloquial meaning, and even if you want to throw it out completely (again it's still valid to be interpreted that way), the "keep your [bright] soul" is meant to be taken literally, since I'm not aware of another way *that* could be interpreted. Which means that ultimately, it doesn't invalidate the theory

[@nonchalantdreadhead24]

God is a proper noun

[@Sodaboy0]

stand user..

[@Denjibean]

Cause in the star toon trailer collete does a jojo reference

[@tony8edits629]

I really like this theory but maybe instead of being like parallel universe, maybe it's potrayed different, like Dani said with "the big pieces might not leave/stay forever", in my opinion, what he tries to say is that some stuff that was relevant back then like when the gift shop season came out might not be a big piece now so they decided to change it up a little bit and while it may retcon stuff, you need to have some logical thinking if you really think Starr Park would show it's true self in an inverstor video, they may cover some things up and those things that happened in the investor video, happened differently in actuallity

[@SubZeroTurnip]

From a lore perspective the Investor Video was released by SPUDE, and is meant as a plea for help showing the dangers going on in this universe. If they were covering stuff up, why wouldn't they censor half the video where people get maimed, become orphans, and have their secrets leaked to the world? I think you're right in that they're retconning stuff, but it makes it difficult when we don't know which parts are. And to be frank, I don't think they even know to a certain extent. It's a video I plan on making eventually, but the bottomline is that the CCTV just doesn't mesh well with old lore

[@tony8edits629]

@@SubZeroTurnip alright watching foward to that video!

[@ebh2763]

Since the Investor video was unlisted I don't think it's canon anymore. Also a lot of brawlers descriptions contradict the Investor Video

[@SubZeroTurnip]

In the Time to Explain podcast Dani has stated two times that it's "still a part of the story"

[@itsspecial261]

7:50 If you dont know tara in hindi literally mean stars ✨

[@Romashka_Sov]

Wait, i just realized Lola has her own Jojo stand 🤯

[@venividivicilgd]

Spikes old description said that he is the only survivor of the cactus people... maybe he summoned them. But that wouldn't keep up with the CCTV creation story of spike... Conclusion: Starr Park is cursed

[@Captn-Meow]

what if rik will be the 3rd brawler of r-t's trio

[@Deathy75]

17:52 would be cool if they put his brain in the machine Also can someone tell me if colt touched the gems at any point throughout the whole cctv event? Maybe the first trailer would explain some things

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Absolutely, I wonder, would that count as death? And no, I don't think directly, but in Poco's case he was only in close proximity. Though, it's implied hypercharges are made through gems (see the ones hidden everywhere in their intro animation), so do what you will with that information

[@Deathy75]

@SubZeroTurnip if I had a dollar for every time someone said that to me I'd have 2 dollars wich isn't much but it's weird that it happened twice XD

[@mite3959]

Now we need some names for these universes!

[@maniikas]

It's always a good day when subzero makes a video

[@Unknown10168]

Another good brawl stars lore episode ❤

[@Wottfit]

Hey SZT! I am making a full starr park map on Minecraft, based on the investor vídeo one and with my own áreas that werent showed like inside of mortis mortuary or the candyland, so i Will finish in a few weeks and i Hope you make a react when i finish It!

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Definitely! Hope to see it soon

[@Wottfit]

@@SubZeroTurnip omg thank you

[@nunosanchez7115]

Maybe Rik is Grom after all because after Mandy's scene he says that he set them straight but as those kids being Nita & Leon they may gave him a bad time by running or bullying him and he started hating kids.

[@דודמסלאוי]

I love how ma1ch3l looks in the video

[@maceowatson9958]

Don't you all realize the lost souls and minds are ours. All of us addicted to this game.

[@user-kw9zo6qo6d]

Stand user?

[@Harlow2neese]

Hey turnip nice video

[@IHATECYAN.]

7:24 "physical manifestation of her spirit" naaah that gotta be a jojo reference

[@lllflow]

okay what if rik turns up as the 3rd starr hub member held hostage by r-t and the twins.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

That would genuinely be hilarious

[@JapaneseBread6940]

STOP YAPPING.. THIS IS JUST NORMAL! THERES NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT! 😃

[@Redpandak-]

🤐

[@sehnyu1652]

Why was there no mention of the Spike smoke being Morse code for " ENĐ "?

[@SubZeroTurnip]

It's a really cool detail, but it just wasn't related to the theory at all

[@elerondxyloscient8851]

​@@SubZeroTurnip ah alright, but nice vid btw. Keep it up

[@parfait911]

‏‪8:27‬‏ I think it's possible because Gems and Dark elixir are similar

[@thegreatbeanofbabylonia8295]

fun fact: darryl is most powerful

[@greenninja4561]

Underrated and unstoppable duo 😎

[@otheryang]

Strange that when it was talking about 10:10 it was 10:10 am? 😅

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Right, the fires didn't happen on 10/10 this time, but instead happened at 10:10

[@GreatTrollger]

Hey Subzero, when is new part of Lore Breakdown and about what it is?

[@SubZeroTurnip]

It'll be trying to organize the events of Starr Park, and go into a bit more detail on what happened to it As for when it's coming out, life's been a little bit more busy lately, so I can't tell you exactly, but definitely after the next one I release

[@GreatTrollger]

btw, what do you think about my ultimate brawl stars iceberg (search "Ultimate Brawl Stars Iceberg" and click first link)@@SubZeroTurnip

[@GreatTrollger]

Hey Subz, I think that I have realized the origins of Starr Park, I have theory simply named "Theory about the origins of Starr Park" posted onto r/brawlstarslore@@SubZeroTurnip

[@EndyMiTson]

YEEEAHHH! LETS GOOP! A NEW THEORY!!!

[@Jakub_french1234]

If spike is secretly god i will be somewhat mad

[@hanuush-g1t]

I REALIZED IT! WE ARE THE SOULS! THE MINDS IN THE GAME ITSELF, WE ARE THE MINDS THAT POSSES THE BRAWLERS AND ARE IN THE BS UNIVERSE WHILE WE PLAY, IT'S ALL US! OUR UNIVERSE AND THE UNIVERSE OF THE GAME ITSELF ARE CONNECTED, THROUGH THE SOULS, THROUGH US!

[@gunrajsingh3831]

Great lore related video ❤🎉

[@phytoanimat3s]

Wait a minute. Is Rik..Gale? Idk just me.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

The first entry shows a security guard chasing after Leon and Nita, with the log entry for that day saying Rik ran after some "juvenile delinquents," which in my opinion means that the security guard was Rik. And considering Rik looks nothing like Gale, and has a different name, AND mentions Gale separately in another log of his, means it's probably unlikely

[@phytoanimat3s]

@@SubZeroTurnip Oh wait, sorry. If Gale was 'presumbly' present during WKBRL then it wont make sense for Rik and Gale to be the same person. However, this person seems to not like children to a certain extent. Idk maybe also just me.

[@nj_53451]

I luv ur vids bro

[@MtFooji]

Never disappoints, like the video 😊

[@konstantinroberts9113]

So, Gene isn't actually Genie, but a guy who got his powers from gems? Are his powers (to grant wishes) trapped in his teapot?

[@SubZeroTurnip]

I don't want to say anything too concrete because we don't entirely know, but I would say he's a genie in the same way Griff is a Cash Register

[@SlenderzinhaForever]

um... good point dude. but i think R-T is Rik. and my reasons are: that gem that started to grow in the room could simply fell into Rik's body like an apple who fell from a tree. and about R-T being an ally... gems do some brainwashing. it was clear Bull was pretty chill and not completely agressive before he touched the gems. and that could have happened in Rik, but instead of making him agressive, made him become an ally of starr park. and the gems can mutate the animals. and there is no evidence it can't do the same to humans. and i believe the amount of radiation in the room made the gem's effect stronger when Rik touched them. yea, feel free to disagree, because that is an opinion after all.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Hey, feel free to disagree, I've been wrong before ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, who knows if we'll ever get confirmation

[@austinchoong7146]

whats the 8:58-8:59 glitch in the subtitles?

[@SubZeroTurnip]

I just paste the script into the auto-sync feature of KZbin, and that part was cut out from the final video. It's not really important, it was just saying that Kairos Tim is made up of multiple "parts" through his voice actor, the person under the deepfake, and the "skin" he's wearing

[@evebvebeve]

I have a question, what is the gameplay in Brawl Stars itself? gameplay in Brawl Stars, e.g. knockout, are these brawlers fighting each other in starpark or what? I have a theory that this organization moved brawlers to the game so that they wouldn't do any more damage and this explains the gameplay in Brawl Stars, but I don't know

[@SubZeroTurnip]

If you want my opinion, Brawlers don't have control over their actions. According to old lore we're controlling them when fighting in game, and it would literally just be us fighting for the fun of it, but the CCTV makes things different, and some stuff could be retconned... And some gamemodes do have direct references (like heist and gemgrab) which encourage the target of Starr Park's brainwashing to collect gems by any means necessary, probably as fuel for hypercharges, powerpoints, and energy. So who knows, lol

[@evebvebeve]

so what? After destroying the Starpark, the brawlers are controlled by players and fight each other? or maybe the gameplay from the game is not canonical to Starpark@@SubZeroTurnip

[@SubZeroTurnip]

@@evebvebeve That's the current theory, but old lore doesn't mesh well with the new lore. Because it feels like they're giving the characters, well... character. Before hand, the idea was that all animations and promotional material were the result of the gameplay in the simulation. Maybe even scripted to show the "happy" and "innocent" side of Brawl Stars. But the CCTV is allegedly the "true origin" of Starr Park, and here we see the characters, that were supposed to be fake constructs as actual people. According to the Investor Video and WKBRL, People become Brawlers. According to the CCTV, Brawlers are based off of people

[@fj7140]

They probably retconed stuff.

[@SubZeroTurnip]

Probably. (wish they'd say something about it)

[@fj7140]

I'm gonna go on a rant in here lol. I think whatever CCTV was trying to do is a complete failure, it ruins starr park as a force in the brawl universe. Before it used to be this evil park, now it feels like that they are just ignorant and they just allowed the accidents to happen. I guess the devs wanted to remove some of the darker aspects of the story because brawl stars is a children's game, but like c'mon. Children deserve better.. sometimes. Also the new descriptions of the brawlers, they are horrible, most of them. I think Gus and Belle were the brawlers that got hit the hardest (I'd say Willow too cuz I remember from the NTTE podcast they said that she's pretty much a serial killer and now she's just.. nothing)

[@SubZeroTurnip]

@@fj7140 I agree with you on a lot of points about the CCTV, and I do eventually want to talk about everything that could have been done better. They've added vague allusions to Starr Corp's involvement (see the Top Secret files on Rik's desk) but other than that, it feels empty... As for the descriptions, I don't hate them as much. Just because the description doesn't talk about it, doesn't mean all that lore about her is gone/retconned. Gus's lore was one of the more interesting ones since he was implied to have been hit by a train, but since there's "no death" and all that, it no longer seems to be the case

[@user-jc9kd4zi4n]

SubZero, I'm curious how you got the song "Another World" if they have a contract with Supercell. 🧐 I don't understand it, it's a VERY strange situation. (Did you pay them money? 💰) Because I also tried to get this song back in JUNE 2023, but they said that they had a contract and they could not break it. I'm confused..

[@SubZeroTurnip]

I don't have or own the song in any way, the song just wasn't available anywhere else so New Math provided the music and notation (sheet music) for the community. I don't know who you reached out to, but Dani came out in Time to Explain and outright said their contract ended (they lost the rights to it) in September, I think I quote it in this video actually

[@STARR-PARK]

please do not believe any of this content! It is only for entertainment, non of this is true. Everything ï§ normal.

[@flooshlikescheese9944]

Yo, you remember me?

[@johannulloa5991]

Yes I missed you

[@lolly_lollipop]

I just beat you in basketball bro

[@SubZeroTurnip]

To be fair I hate basketbrawl (And tsk tsk, bming like a typical edgar)

[@lolly_lollipop]

it was my friends who asked me To play i hate edgar

[@StephanAXXMusic]

Do you listen to Hardstyle? @SubZeroProject