End-to-End Encryption Now a Historical Footnote. They Won.

[@1kreature]

You have nothing to hide, but: - Insurance companies will get ahold of information about you, that you didn't even know would be important and use it to predict that you may get an illness and increase your premiums, reduce your coverage or straight out deny you. They didn't warn you about the illness naturally, not their responsibility. - Banks and financial companies get ahold of your data and increase your interest rates based on your propensity to switch providers or how savy you are in your financial deals. - Profiteers get ahold of your data and information you share with your affiliates and use this to speculate on the stock market, crashing your employers stock values after a big-buy pump&dump. - Hackers get ahold of your data and use it to automatically answer any and all "security questions" to reset your authentication, thus taking over your accounts. So, maybe "having nothing to hide" isn't a good reason to let everyone spy on you?

[@wardog5537]

@1kreature there was a person who sued her car insurance company because they asked her to download an app, and she didnt know what it was there for. Well i guess she was on her phone or speeding too often, so her premiums went up and when she tried switching providers, they wouodn't accept her due to the data from the app

[@dboot8886]

Okay but that makes sense.

[@squirtbaybay]

​@@wardog5537Allstate's Safe Driving program. I did that for only a month until my rates went up for driving at night

[@cHAOs9]

​@@wardog5537the gps data from numerous apps is sold to insurance companies secretly. gas buddy, a weather app, etc. apps you had no idea had anything to do with your insurance company. not just the app FROM the insurance company.

[@snipeefox]

@@dboot8886how do you know she was the driver?

[@Secretgeek2012]

"Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide, is like saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say. It's a deeply anti-social concept. Because what may not matter to you today, may matter to a whole people, population, or an entire way of life tomorrow. And if you don't stand up for it, who will." - Edward Snowden

[@jbutler8585]

You don't need anything to hide to distrust irresponsible companies leaking your data. Are Apple and Microsoft offering to be *legally liable* for securing all my health, financial, and intellectual property data? Of course they won't.

[@rjgrimshaw]

😂😂😂

[@k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181]

THIS. It's like, ok, you have nothing to hide? Can I get a list of your passwords to e-mail accounts, security question answers, all photos on your phone, and listn to every conversation you have? No? so you do have some things to hide. It's literally the easiest argument to win with fools.

[@k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181]

hence...I have no friends, just a kickass wife....

[@fkknsikk]

It's still a bad argument. The problem won't be solved by passing coded notes back and forth with e2e any more than it was in the past. You still have to get rid of the tyrants or sooner or later they get what they want. No amount of encryption can stop them from being able to look at someone, make assumptions, and arrest or otherwise violate them based on those assumptions. We're sat here discussing an outmoded stopgap while certain classes of people are openly committing felonies and getting away with it. Clearly secrecy isn't the issue here.

[@ettoreatalan8303]

None of the “I have nothing to hide” people I've come across have ever given me their bank details, even when I've asked for them very clearly.

[@theoriginoffruits]

Because thats a stupid question. Theres money stored on a bank account, not the hub browser history. Edit for all the illiterates attacking me: my point is this - you can ask for permission to view someones hard drive or BANK ACCOUNT BALANCE and they might say "its okay since i got nothing to hide i dont care". But you cant say "give me your home keys and leave the country for a week" and you cant say "give me your credit card and go take a shower" and expect people to say "yeah thats fine since i have nothing to hide". Because theft is a thing and the example that OP made is just a really bad pick in my eyes. I just made a better one from the top off my head. If you disagree, you can tell me that in a normal articulate way! I cant believe i had to make the edit to tell y'all this. But you keep throwing assumptions about me, my knowledge and my mindset like tf you even know about me from one sentence? You like to argue so much or what? DISGUSTING! Well at least i got some normal, SOCIAL replies here too.

[@LynyrdSkynyrd.4Ever]

​@@theoriginoffruitsunless you are looking at your bank account online or via downloaded PDF file. Anything on the screen gets scanned...

[@rizz0d]

@@theoriginoffruits it's not a stupid question. it proves that they were lying when they said "i have nothing to hide."

[@chelmano0]

@@theoriginoffruits Look at this n0rmie. Did you scream about how your neighbors should be put in a camp because they refuse to comply?

[@2bNot]

Some people just can't understand so they try and 'out-clever' the simple concept that they cannot understand. They struggle to even consider it and go immediately into 'ego-drive mode'.

[@ElementalMaker]

So now new phones will come preloaded with what is essentially Pegasus. Truly dystopian.

[@swojnowski453]

there are plenty of old phones around, I have one from 2010, still going strong ...

[@JustDr3-TV]

What is Pegasus I'm curious?

[@cndungu]

@@JustDr3-TV You can easily search this online man. You're just choosing to be ignorant. Pegasus is a Spyware made by Israelis. It was used to spy on Palestinians and journalists across the world. Israel then sold the spyware to governments to spy on its citizens.

[@y.__.y--]

​@@JustDr3-TV if you're curious then google it. you're online commenting on a youtube video for chrissake. 🤦‍♂️

[@MAST]

@@swojnowski453 Prolly way more vulnerable.

[@missmewd164]

Twenty years ago my Grandma would take the battery out of her cell phone to tell me stories she wanted kept private. Everyone thought she was crazy. She's now passed away, but when I hear things like this, I look at her picture and tell her "Grandma, you were right." 🖤

[@anon_y_mousse]

I was probably the one who told your grandma about that. Did you know that if the battery is in they can turn it on remotely?

[@LIBER000]

Your grandmother was very smart.

[@RikiB]

What was the story?

[@ItsAllAboutGuitar]

They don't make those phones anymore.

[@TwistedMe13]

@@ItsAllAboutGuitar They do, but there's issues/compromises and they're niche brands. The most popular series is the FairPhone. It starts at 549 Euros (If you want the De-Googled variant that'll cost an additional 50) and it comes equipped with a Qualcomm QCM 6490 (the long-life support version of the Snapdragon 778G). Then there's the Librem 5/Liberty Phone from Purism which is even more anemic.

[@LIBER000]

As a veteran security software engineer with over 20 years of experience, I CANNOT emphasize enough how important what Rob is saying is. We were speaking about this 15 years ago and that encryption would either be broken or worthless.

[@hideotrolljima907]

What about pgp that still a thing ?

[@nephatrine]

@@hideotrolljima907 If you're typing up the message on a compromised device then it doesn't matter how you encrypt it. PGP/GPG is still a thing though. It's just a bit cumbersome to use.

[@WarAuthority]

It was worthless 15 years ago nothing has changed.

[@nomejc13]

Sadly even further. I am senior. The elite school campus, 22 years old told me. Early 80s. They were high i.q. and got money or earned sponsorships. One graduate student who worked high security, high pay programmers work.. lived in the woods. No electricity, no computer, no t.v. Seemed extreme but I knew I was surrounded by unique intelligence. The insight he gave me blew me away, and made me hope I wouldnt live this long. What is coming will be faster and harder. Put on the full Armour of God, be Ninja, be Tao. Beloved go past all to the Father and Son in Flesh, who fulfilled prophecy arriving, and foretold the way to read the signs and walk the way of the cross with purpose, the direct path to find The Kingdom of Heaven portal is within you. It happens with challenge, answer, prayer, listening, obeying, walking the warriors path and the veil falls from your eyes. Revelations. Others will sleepwalk, others will be zombies, others will be there to trick/trip you,up, others will will be there with the sign to read. Others will be a soft breeze kiss on your cheek from something so pure, so loving, so humble and glorious at the same time. That is the portal to the Father within. Bless you if you read this, and made it to here. ❤

[@sj6404]

@@nephatrine Yup. You really have to take the PGP file you get from email, put it on a thumb drive, reload on (offline/air-gapped) XP and read - not unlike how you should handle your crypto seed. And your friend would have to do the same.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

The normies will wake up the first time it says, "I'm sorry, Dave. I cannot let you download that. That would be copyright infringement."

[@linsqopiring6816]

Probably what will be more likely is like with traffic cameras that we have now that just send you a ticket in the mail. You will just get a bill for whatever torrent you downloaded.

[@googIesux]

Normies are OK with both. They see them both as legitimate. It's when they get arrested for something they don't believe is sin that they'll begin to think; but even then, balance of power, etc are not on their radar

[@Mystery_G]

That's already happening, and they already don't gaf enough to do anything about it other than whinge or vote for some a'hole who's slick enough to lie to them that he/she's gonna make everything great again.

[@bobhatesrainbows]

Too late.

[@BFG_10G]

@@Truth_Teller_101 😄

[@tupG]

The worst thing to that we can't escape this surveillance. "You" might be super cautious but as long as everyone around you doesn't care you'll be under surveillance too.

[@FlyHighShootStraight]

Ah man i don't have social media for that reason but I have duck duck go app security blicker loaded and oof the amount of information this apps send back to their owners is crazy.

[@DeepSeaLugia]

Please. My whole job is people loving and using AI with no consequences.

[@tupG]

Just a little anecdote. A coworker I rarely meet gave me an earful about the difference between the strattle and back-flip in high jumping. I have never bothered about this.. absolutely no interest in high jumping. Guess what, it didn't take 2 days and I got high jumping videos suggestions on KZbin. And that's not the exception. Happens quite frequently.

[@mgh7634]

indeed. You're a cautious man, a tech for example, who daily drives linux and a degoogled phone. You keep your ear close to the ground on all privacy-based issues. But then your wife is not a tech. She might care about privacy but not to an extent that it significantly impacts convenience and what work she may need to do. You try to get her to install and work with linux, she goes along with it until her job starts wanting her to send word documents, edited pdf files, or scientific results from specific sorts of software that only are compatible with Windows. In desperation, you install wine, where you're basically running a windows OS on her linux box. She deals with a million tech issues like this inherent to linux, and many have fixes, but it doesn't matter. Eventually she gets tired of this and installs Windows. Now you have a Windows device running in your home with all that entails. Sure, you can sit there and say "well she should have blah blah blah" or "just marry a tech person LOL" but let's be real here, these are all unrealistic answers. Even if you managed to find the perfect companion to do all of that, you have kids who then go to a public school. The school gives said child an iPad or laptop loaded with Windows 11 to take home. They are required to use this for homework and classes. You protest or offer to provide your own device, the school and teacher deny it. Again, same situation and this is assuming you've landed in a perfect situation where everyone in your family is willing to use linux. Outside factors will FORCE you to take home a windows or apple device. You can solve this scenario as well (by home schooling for instance) but there are a million situations like this that will eventually compel you or wear you down. So what do you do? You can live like a hermit, but if that's the option is that even living? The most bitter pill we all have to accept is that you really can't escape the surveillance. The best you can do is mount as capable a defense as possible and wait for society to shift to where it finally values privacy enough to start frightening CEOs of tech companies.

[@tupG]

@@mgh7634 the last paragraph sums up your reply perfectly. It's pretty much my line of reasoning. Yesterday was Holocaust memorial day. In the 1920, before the rise of the Nazis, lists of assumed homosexuals were compiled by the police. Like in most other countries, being gay was illegal in Germany, but the police rarely acted on these cases for lack of evidence. And then the Nazis took power and got hold of those lists......... Don't be naive. The wrong bunch gets into government and things can get nasty. I'm not referring to the likes of Trump and his ilk. They may only the prelude for something far worse if we are not careful. I think my concerns are not unreasonable. If it happened before it can happen again. History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes.

[@kaedatiger]

"I have nothing to hide" is not a normie. That's a bootlicker. Wanting privacy is what is normal. You don't have to be special to not want companies in your personal business.

[@QNEGRO1]

Said right❤

[@kunka592]

Not anymore, people love to share sensitive information without a second thought.

[@Nostradankus]

I'd say most people still don't understand how valuable their data is and how badly they can get fucked if certain kinds of companies (health insurance and banking come to mind) decide that they just aren't worth the risk. Our world is so complex that it's really hard to know exactly what information can be dangerous for you.

[@wrongthinker843]

Most people value servitude over freedom.

[@davidjudd951]

​@@kunka592 Hence, (Facebook). I fired Facebook 15 years ago.

[@mtake100]

Rob probably remembers the 1970s when students on college campus were warning people about the erosion of privacy and Big Brother. Fast forward to 2025 and they were absolutely correct.

[@hAckAbleMe]

Have you seen a modern college student? Scary stuff!😂

[@jarihaukilahti]

money are conserned to be overthrown or to be in power ,, forver and forever - the user are like crimminals but obvoisly not those who survilance - its about control for tech companies ,money ,state etc, Thet are just the smaallminded people who lived in the past and crated massmurder

[@AncientGranules]

Exactly!

[@secretagent86]

George Orwell

[@GudLawdHammercy]

The sad thing is, people are welcoming it.

[@Frustratedfool]

Encryption ended years ago. The company that runs 1Password also sold encryption software called Knox. I used it all the time on external drives. All of a sudden, I got an email saying they could no longer sell or support the software. I recall this was because they needed to comply with USA laws. Which probably means they didn’t want to sell encryption software with a hidden backdoor.

[@Mayhzon]

It's sometimes baffling that some companies actually truly do have morals or honest ideals. At this point I don't believe it to be the norm or be even around, so it surprises me when a company actually sticks by certain principles.

[@mobilityproject3485]

Crack it. I'm sure they would be fine with you doing that, they stood up for the good fight

[@Asrashas]

Why pay for drive encryption? Veracrypt exists.

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

1Password discontinued Knox, their disk encryption software, primarily due to a shift in their business focus and changes in macOS features. Here are the main reasons: 1. Redundancy with macOS Features: Apple introduced and improved its built-in disk encryption solution, FileVault, making third-party encryption tools like Knox less necessary. FileVault became a reliable and widely used feature, reducing the demand for Knox. 2. Focus on Core Products: AgileBits, the company behind 1Password, decided to concentrate its resources on 1Password, their flagship product. This focus allowed them to enhance 1Password’s features and expand its offerings across multiple platforms instead of maintaining a niche encryption tool. 3. Limited Market for Knox: As encryption tools became more integrated into operating systems, the market for standalone encryption software like Knox declined. Maintaining Knox would require ongoing development resources without sufficient user demand. 4. Evolving Security Standards: Knox was based on macOS frameworks that became outdated over time. To keep Knox relevant, AgileBits would have needed to invest heavily in modernizing the software, which they decided against in favor of focusing on 1Password. The discontinuation of Knox was part of AgileBits' strategy to prioritize their password management platform and ensure it remained competitive in a growing market.

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

It's actually incredibly simple to run your own encryption without the need for such tools. You can even make overly complex encryption models that nobody would sell you because they're overkill.

[@rmp5s]

I can't stand the "but I have nothing to hide" mentality. It's often just an excuse for being lazy...for not paying attention. And, to quote Plato: "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." EDIT: First time here...good vid, man. Been in the network security world for a bit over a decade now and it's crazy to see the direction things are going with all this AI shit. The Virtual Brax service looks FANTASTIC, too...think I'm going to replace another service I have with that one. Good stuff, man. Keep up the good work.

[@christopherknight-k3b]

there is no such thing as online privacy 🙄 you guys keep hyping it but the truth is it cannot and does not exist , if that is being a normie well it's just reality

[@rmp5s]

@christopherknight-k3b You're TOTALLY missing the point.

[@elijahwilson780]

Hope you wake up chris

[@Danman1115]

The “nothing to hide” angle is fully acceptable when referring to actual criminal activity, NOT when Big Brother scans your phone trying to find something they can manufacture as something they can use against you.

[@raphaelvermin]

I would bet you dont even need a cellphone. You probably do not run a business or work in emergency services. Nothing you do is actually so time sensitive that you need to be connected all the time. Just give up you phone...

[@troywhite6039]

One thing yet discussed is when content deemed illegal can be put on your phone without your knowledge because a 3 letter agency or law enforcement has no other evidence to blackmail or imprison you with so they make you guilty of something by adding it there.

[@setsquare-h7k]

No worries here...although you will be tried by a jury of your peers (where the chance of getting just one who knows anything about the relevant technology is extremely remote) there will be a stream of "experts" who are put on the stand to inform how they should be thinking

[@ericpode6095]

​@@setsquare-h7kStarmer in the UK wants to get rid of trial by jury......

[@elleodurkin409]

This has already been effected in the Commonwealth of Australia with the _Surveillance Legislation Amendment (Identify and Disrupt) Act 2021_ . In short, the AFP can put information on your accounts because they suspect you are participating in three defined things and...other criminal activities. People don't know, and don't want to know, what is happening.

[@Emily_M81]

@@setsquare-h7k not to mention that the attorneys are the ones interviewing potential jurors and get to basically say "no, not them on the jury, oh yes that person, though" at least that's how it was when I was a juror on a felony case.

[@zaxmaxlax]

it was already done even by normal police agencies all around the world. True history.

[@hanselito2416]

"Nothing to hide" doesn't mean much when you're being stalked worse than anybody knew possible when the term stalking was conceived.

[@Dowlphin]

And sheeple are alright with being guarded by the Cable Guy, yet when a person does it, suddenly it's creepy. Reminds me of how the other day I witnessed someone complain about the plague of modern technology, yet a minute later she praised it in a case where it was convenient to her.

[@ArturCzajka]

What people tend to miss is, it’s not them deciding, if they have something to hide. If someone decides to target everyone eating tomatoes, because it’s now illegal to eat tomatoes, it doesn’t matter if a person thinks it’s ok to eat tomatoes 😅

[@GeneralArmchair]

@@ArturCzajka People foolishly assume that the spying is ok because the person doing the spying is someone that they perceive of as a friend. As a society we should start assuming that the person doing the spying is our greatest enemy, because in truth nobody doing that level of spying is wholesome. But even if we, naively, assume that the spy is benevolent, nothing is stopping an enemy from capturing that data in the future. So as a society we need to start adopting a privacy focused mentality and only share what we're ok with our most hated enemy knowing.

[@filoofox9934]

Back in the day Keyloggers were the biggest fear... now their built in...

[@utubepunk]

they're

[@ShadowManceri]

Windows 10 was the first OS to have keylogger from factory. Windows 11 upgraded that to not only keylogger, but actually recording the whole screen.

[@ArtisChronicles]

That's the damn irony of all of this.

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@ShadowManceri Well now I know why they wanna push Windows 11 so hard. Such utter trash. There must be some way to actually disable that.

[@ShadowManceri]

@ Maybe with some unofficial mods, that could contain malware on their own and do whatever. And it's always a solution that might stop working any day. One update could change everything. Not really fan of either method. Not to mention that most people will have no idea.

[@darz_k.]

A quote for the 'I have nothing to hide' people: "Arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say." - Edward Snowden

[@kurokaien18]

All of the people that say they have nothing to hide, I recommend a video titled “never talk to police” a great video on how VERY possible it is for innocent people to end up in jail for crimes they didn’t commit under the assumption that because they had nothing to hide, they had no issue giving the authorities information. I was a “I have nothing to hide” person until I saw that video

[@SparklyCoconut-le3fu]

I watched a true crime video about a girl who hid her pregnancy until she gave birth and unalived the baby. The hospital told the police so they went to her house and told the parents “she’s not under investigation don’t worry” Whole time she was in fact under investigation and the parents were dumbfounded that they’d been lied to. They were like “we didn’t think they had any reason to lie” I just could not understand how when the police come knocking at people’s doors, they don’t immediately seek legal counsel. I just don’t know how ppl don’t get that they can’t trust this stuff too. It’s insanity. Ppl are in their own little worlds

[@jmass4207]

@@SparklyCoconut-le3fu People assume they are talking to normal individuals in which common rules of human interaction and negotiation exist, as opposed to representatives of an enormous institution with specific incentive structures. They think they can navigate via compliance, amiability, etc. In reality you have to play by existing best practices when interfacing with such a machine, lest you be crunched under its treads.

[@Dennis-xj8nh]

That is still one of the best videos on YT

[@DaleyRush]

Great vid

[@MegaFirewalk]

The Amish way of life looks more attractive to me every day, we will end up fully enslaved by our tech.

[@OOO-pc3nb]

Welcome 2 the US of China

[@Dasani_water_drinker]

End up? Its been there. Wake up

[@TinusTegenlicht]

If I could, I would join the Amish. I am tired of these phone zombies, who are glued to the device and cannot even turn their phones off during lunch or dinner or on a date they put it beside their plate. Or they record themselves crying because Trump said somethig mean in the middle of the store, while everybody is watching.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

It's not the tech. It's the sociopathic leaders in politics and corporations and their shareholders who enable them

[@koala-py7uy]

@@TinusTegenlicht I think you can convert to Amish but you have to submit to all of their beliefs.

[@technoman9000]

The trend is obvious. For your own protection, you need this AI surveillance bot on all your devices. Now we're just waiting for the big platforms to deny access unless you have the surveillance bot running. Easily done with TPM and signed passkeys. What a future we're in for!

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

They will stop selling computers within 15 years

[@Drew.DrivesYT]

​@@letsRegulateSociopaths 15 is optimistic. I bet within 5 years you'll need to bio-authenticate yourself just to use a computer/smartphone/whatever. that's the reason why over 60% of internet traffic is bot-related - to create a crisis. "we can't be sure that the IP hitting our servers is from a human, so make them bio-authenticate".

[@The_Questionaut]

​@@letsRegulateSociopathsThat claim seems a little out there unless you got back up evidence

[@flickwtchr]

You know what we are also waiting for with Trump being the most likely president to deliver such? A cashless system where everything about you will be on blockchain corresponding to your social credit score. Did you see the news about the "Stargate" project, and Larry Ellison's comments about AI's surveillance expansion in accordance with that Trump initiated project with his big AI tech billionaire allies? Don't get me wrong, if the same project were endorsed by Biden I would have been just as much against it.

[@punkofthedeath]

Yep, even devices that can connect to the internet can be restricted to "protect" internet users, but the real reason is to monitor all activities on the internet or to control what software & device capabilities that is allowed to be used on the internet

[@sibly2224]

I'll never look at a "God is my copilot" bumper sticker the same again.

[@luisostasuc8135]

Lol it's never actually been any different. -santa- God is always watching.

[@lovejumanji5]

@@luisostasuc8135. Why ….? I mean really.

[@Enaiarr]

Marching headlong towards "Copilot is my god"

[@one_b]

I've tried and tried explaining it to people and most look at me blankly. AI cores are going to become commodity parts very soon that any company will be able to jam into their SoCs. They will start getting stuck into everything and there will be no way to hide. You plug your PC, even with Linux, into a screen with an embedded AI processor and it could literally scan the contents of the display stream, process it, store it in cheap internal flash memory, wait for a connection to the outside world via a friendly BLE mesh network, and boom - no privacy. No Copilot needed. It really would be a "monitor" then in the most literal sense.

[@ogre706]

Keep you're old monitors, lol. But seriously.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

Yep. There will be a point where we will no longer be able to upgrade any hardware. For example, If they had started doing this in the 1990's, we'd be forced to use Commodore 64s right now.

[@linsqopiring6816]

This is exactly the kind of threat model I've been thinking about. As prices go down they will be included in pretty much all components of all consumer devices. Everything will be "smart". Every player will be pilfering every bit of data out of people they can. Look at how obsessed almost every company seems to be with getting in on the AI trend. This kind of scenario seems not only likely but almost inevitable to me. The only hope might be if the public somehow becomes privacy aware and that some company has a true privacy focus, not a fake one like apple, and builds systems that are open sourced at every level.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

@ I live in California and had to have a "smart" dryer (for laundry). It "saved" energy by not drying the clothes completely. The "smart" dishwasher "saves" energy by not drying the dishes. And don't ask me about the nightmare that is the "low flow" toilet and what it does to save water (hint: you need to have a plunger at hand at all times).

[@RT-qd8yl]

@@Truth_Teller_101 And through all of this, have you considered moving?

[@ev3rything533]

What's sad is people don't care. Say it like this to make them care: all that extra ai scanning and transmitting your every move back to HQ drains your battery, hogs up your bandwidth, and slows down everything else.

[@iennefaLsh]

Sure, those devices would be made to accommodate the extra battery life cost, but that just means there's a cost that really isn't (and shouldn't be) necessary.

[@boinqity4621]

this has the same energy as people protesting war by pointing out how costly it is. it sucks that it has to be this way, there are way better arguments for privacy, but its genuinely the only way that normies will listen

[@jimbo9661]

Why would an NPC care

[@DESARD12]

"The battery's good enough" "I have enough internet" "My phone is fast, I don't mind"

[@witzeto150]

@@DESARD12 In that case you say it makes everyone else’s slower too, just by them using it. Gotta make them feel bad over it.

[@DMMDestroyer]

This was a fantastic video. All of us old school IT guys from the early 2000s were called crazy for talking about the very things that you covered. It hurts to know how much we built, was turned against us by the opposition.

[@jimbo9661]

Womp womp. Just like the Manhattan Project every good research gets used for destruction

[@HuntingTarg]

​​​@@jimbo9661That's actually reversi from digital privacy. Everyone knew that nuclear energy could be destructive, and a handful on the Manhattan Project knew what its objective was. It was actually a military officer, Adm. Hyman G. Rickover, who basically badgered Congress into funding his project, which led to the USS Nautilis, the first nuclear-powered naval vessel and the first non-academic, non-destructive use of nuclear energy.

[@DasFork]

"I have nothing to hide" is the same as "I don't need freedom of speech because I have nothing to say".

[@PHIplaytesting]

I would like to point out that the upcoming technology of AR smart glasses that will replace our smartphones will put an array of outward facing cameras and sensors on every person you see, so you won't need to interact with your phone or device, or even own one, to be tracked. Meta is hugely invested in developing this technology, and you know why.

[@benzanato]

Think I’d rather have my old razor flip phone back

[@DeadeyeJim327]

Nobody is gonna have money for AR tech toys very soon.

[@JohnL-m2l]

​@@benzanatoyou are still missing the point. Other people will be walking around with cameras recording what you do.

[@raphaelvermin]

​@@JohnL-m2lmost regular people do not even need a cell phone. Unless you run a business or work in emergency services you would be better off with just a regular land line that has an answering machine. What does the average person use their cellphone for? It is almost never making calls. Disconnect yourself from the internet and they wont have data to track. Get a mechanical watch to tell the time, a small pen light, and a memopad with a pencil to keep notes. You dont need the internet in your pocket. If you search my real name you will only receive information on other people that share my name. When google glasses become common i will be walking around in public with an animal mask on whether people like it or not.

[@raphaelvermin]

​@@JohnL-m2l im going to walk around like a movie slasher in an animal mask. I dont care if it makes people uncomfortable that im wearing a mask and carry a 12inch bowie. If i have to get used to their cameras, they all have to get used to me looking scary.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

"I'm sorry, Dave. This conversation can serve no purpose any longer."

[@technoman9000]

Goodbye Dave.

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

HAL? Is that you?

[@linmal2242]

I remember that ! Saw it twice at the theatre, I was so impressed with it ! Long ago now, but prescient !

[@hisechapman1165]

Reading the words, I could even hear the voice.... scary times.

[@DouglasMix-o7h]

2001 A Space Odessey a masterpiece! The HAL9000 computer was a AI computer who was a bad boy!

[@Litepaw]

We lost waaaay back when normies flooded the internet to join facebook and instagram on their iphone 3Gs.

[@Drew.DrivesYT]

top comment

[@blues03]

As a teen that bothered me on so many levels back then. Fools willing to make giving up privacy the norm to post themselves at people they see everyday. And if you're connecting with family from a distance, then email them a letter and some pictures or CALL them. All the kids growing up (then) would say "Catch me/Check my Myspace!". These are the same people that would be yelling "Nerd" for anyone understanding the difference between the R W Y A/V cables a few years earlier.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

Normies need to stop appropriating comic book heros, gaming and computers, they need to stayoutside and give it back to the nerds.

[@homeloveeverything2932]

And even if you choose to stay off of them, there’s usually a grandma who will post every single picture of her kids and grandkids… and neglect to turn on the privacy features (as if the privacy features really work anyways)

[@blakecarnes9400]

​@@balsalmalberto8086morons need to stop gatekeepers yet here we are. "Teehee I'm a comic book nerd I hate these posers who only know superman, how dare they no know who Mama Biscuit the all-seeing baking grandma is?? She had two issues back in 1965 geez I hate these so called nerds who only know the popular stuff." Literally just let people enjoy shit, your type of people is absolutely insufferable. Maybe try to cultivate better interest in hem than trying to say they should just stop altogether. Gatekeepers are losers

[@yb5515]

The Priest wears his apple watch into the confessional. I'm sure Apple gets an ear full of the juicy stuff.

[@mk9430-d8v]

You can confess you have taken the ham out of Tim Cook's sandwich, put it in your but cheeks then put it back and watched him eat it.

[@AbelosAlithini]

In a few years if someone wants to be truly free, there will be one solution, not just to throw smartphones in the trash but to live away from any modern smart city

[@oliverheaviside2539]

That sounds like Logan’s Run. Or Fahrenheit 451.

[@Dasani_water_drinker]

Lol. They are forcing people from the outskirts

[@carloschu7127]

I need to know an Amish woman, so she can teach me more about mother nature and limited technology.

[@Dasani_water_drinker]

@@carloschu7127 you can’t handle an Amish woman. You can’t get to them unless you get through the men first

[@AbelosAlithini]

@@oliverheaviside2539 fahrenheit 451 with artificial intelligence ruling and directing every aspect of a person's life and beyond. The only source of knowledge will be artificial intelligence or otherwise the artificial God who will at some point become an implant in people's bodies.

[@cpuuk]

Long story short: If you have an AI enabled device, the OEM sees everything you see and reads everything you have stored... and you even agreed to it in those T&C you skipped past. I would say Privacy is about to become a historical footnote.

[@davidgoodnow269]

No it won't. Footnotes are to refer people to sources of more information. No one involved with A.I. would want _that_ kind of historical record.

[@geronimo5537]

the patriot act following 9/11 is what started it all. the erosion of privacy has already been on going for sometime.

[@Darth_Insidious]

"You best start believing in Cyberpunk dystopias. Cause you're in one!"

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

You have never had privacy. That said: If you want to disable all of these data collection features (Never mind the volume of data) then there'll always be some enterprising folks who teach you how to disable them.

[@dboot8886]

OEM?

[@SageHeru]

Most people are dummies. They can't comprehend anything harmful until it happens to them, and even then most of them can't comprehend where the harm came from.

[@hardoncrimefromRS]

Sounds like Black Honey by Thrice

[@song8777]

Yeah, even if you explain in detail something bad that happened to you, they don’t believe it, unless and until it happens to them or even to some stranger in a viral video. Documents, data, all that means nothing to them.

[@parhwy]

There was an OECD report done in 2016, I think, that about 40% cannot use a Smartphone or computer for more than one function at a time (make a call, use an app).

[@darksidegryphon5393]

Most people have so little self awareness that if they had less, they'd cease to be sentient.

[@boinqity4621]

i am reminded this every day in literally evert aspect of my life. yesterday i nearly took out a jerry on the ski slopes who made a massive turn in a blind spot without looking uphill first lol

[@HudsoniteJessie]

I got rid of my cell phone in 2009 and haven't looked back. It only stops you from interacting with normies in their preferred method of contact. Going fishing without being expected to answer texts is bliss.

[@hellomiakoda3782]

You were part of my decision to dump Google Home, move off Gmail, and Google calendar, photos, etc, degoogle my Pixel... and I'll be replacing it with a Linux phone soon. You were part of snapping this former Google fan out of the "ooooh Shiney toy" trance years ago. And now you made me realize "If you want to talk about that, you'll need to meet me" must become part of my regular responses.

[@ScottHogue]

"degoogle my Pixel" got my attention for two reasons. First, how do you degoogle a Goole product? The second one is that I have a Pixel.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

I think Nokia has a place in the new world

[@koala-py7uy]

@@ScottHogue Rob has videos on this process and he sells them or used to.

[@gracefool]

Old phone calls and SMS are monitored, they're even worse.

[@WeekndWarriorrr]

​@@ScottHogueGraphene OS

[@HazeOfWhearyWater]

You're preaching to the choir. I get impenetrable resistance when trying to convert "normies." They simply don't get it and don't care. They think you shouldn't care either. World keeps on turning inexorably.

[@TrekkingTabris]

The fact is, not everyone is a normie. People are sick and tired of being homogenized like we are some industrial product.

[@VioFax]

It's a waste of time and stress to give a shit...I think they care, they just inherently know its appart of using the technology. Just wait until 'America's 500 billion dollar AI infrastructure' is built. What do you think THATS for? Making sure they have eyes on everybody at all times. Its not for our entertainment or 'easier living' 😅 They gonna look ate everything, scan everything, record everything. And you are all going to deal with it.

[@xxlibarat0rxx280]

It's quite simple, really. They just won't ever care about a problem that is brought up until it happens and affects them in some way

[@TinusTegenlicht]

Bread and games is enough for most people, so they go along. Many are just cowards or lazy and that is why dictators can rule countries for decades without getting much opposition. Of course many others just don't know what to do and many don't even know how to protect their privacy, not everyone is tech savvy.

[@ColdStuff-cf7jv]

​@@TrekkingTabrismaybe...but there are enough normies to ruin a wet dream.

[@techelectricfuture3094]

Your demonetized viedo is KZbins way of ripping you off of your hard work.

[@karenp5374]

Demon-ized

[@integerofdoom69]

KZbin still has a CEO, right?

[@exwhyz9367]

True! YT uses AI to silence anyone who does NOT follow the narrative and thus educates and empowers others!

[@2bNot]

Why can they legally deprive a content creator of earned income ? Where does that concept end ? Slavery is where. Absolute Obedience or Ruthless Punishment. Easily observed already.

[@integerofdoom69]

@@2bNot Luigi time!

[@krzysztofniedzwiedzki8061]

Dziękujemy.

[@bardmadsen6956]

1.5 minutes in, I could have told you this twenty years ago, and I'm not an IT person. The big blob of the main mass of humanity will not listen, but "they" figured out how to lead "them", "we" are only in for the ride. I have the same problem with my publication, all I can do is keep trying, but I know it won't do any good. I like your cause, Rob, you obviously put in a lot of work.

[@TinusTegenlicht]

It is less than 10% which sees what is happening, the rest don't or do, but put their heads in the sand. Ignorence is bliss and they just go along as long if they get their bread and games, like the Romans already knew that is what matters most for most people. On the other hand, wars and revolutions are won by a small minority who fights back, not the 90% of the silent masses

[@bardmadsen6956]

@@TinusTegenlicht Well, thanks for commenting, I'm used to silence, kind of like that Ozzy song about do not bother turning the lights on. I really did find something of eminence importance to mankind and have been open about it for a decade, it is like being stuck in a Twilight Zone episode, The Eye of the Beholder, where the pig nosed people send the few normal ones off to live amongst themselves, out of sight of the majority. All I get is incredulous silence, so much so, that it is by itself truly an anomaly. I've been here before, many times, but this time I had to look for the answer and started researching psychology, a subject that I've never liked and on top of that I used to live with a full blown psychologist. Anyhow, it seems there is almost zero on denial. Then I somehow got back to a subject that I was very interested in six decades ago, oh yeah, it was a comment on YT suggesting that I read Are We Smart Enough To Know How Smart Animals Are? And in it the author talks about animal cognition that is more informative than any psychology that I have run into. Stuff like conformity and politics of animals. And the answer is no, we are not.

[@EightiesJames]

It's so very surreal to watch it happen from aside but to circumvent it forever is simply impossible in society.

[@Mayhzon]

@@TinusTegenlicht 90 / 5 / 5 rule. 5 at the top, 90 is the herd, the other 5 is 'enlightened' non-rulers. The 90 cause everyone on earth to suffer, including themselves.

[@TinusTegenlicht]

@Mayhzon You are right, the silent majority gives power to tyrrants.

[@standardsarhy5319]

George Orwell called it. Only off by 40 years. I tell my kid 'don't say/post/type/speak or put anything on that phone or laptop that you don't want the entire world to know' - but is she listening to me ? I think not. Maybe I need to write her a letter and put it in the mail. A letter with self-disappearing ink. Only one other thing to say and that is "silence is a friend that will never betray you".

[@Mayhzon]

Sad when we go back to times of "don't say it, don't think it". With certain leadership groups this just happens.

[@Roxor128]

Yep. The most secure data is that which is never collected.

[@hueco5002]

Don’t forget “two can keep a secret if one of them is dead”

[@TheJimmyCartel]

we are clearly in "Brave New World" not 1984. search for Biblioklept Huxley vs. Orwell: The Webcomic

[@HuntingTarg]

We're past even silence now. One of the things that has surfaced in the last decades is laws that mandate certain forms of speech in certain situations. 'All will serve The Party.'

[@celticloverush2]

Keep up the good work Rob.

[@Cranky_Crone]

You’re not speaking to deaf ears, your last video about iPhone 16 was the final nail in Apple’s coffin for this listener! And whatever the last version of windows was called, that sh*t had already forced me to switch back to Linux. I was fed up BEFORE the new AI assistant started harassing me! Everything opted in by default, privacy/cloud/local settings all over the shop, deliberately confusing. They’d made it a full time job trying to stop your own device leaking like a sieve, I spent half my time effing around with settings, that… I’m pretty sure were reverting themselves, ‘til I stopped using the damn thing. I might start a movement of neo-luddites.

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

Free Palestine avatar detected; opinion discarded

[@1jbunceiii]

If they have nothing to hide, then they should just give me their username and passwords to everything, you know, because they have nothing to hide

[@luisdiaz3119]

The locusts come for everything not hidden

[@angryox3102]

Passwords don’t even matter anymore.

[@VioFax]

​@@angryox3102 None of this stuff does. There legitimately is NOTHING you can do to stop the government from spying on you. This is all just stressing you guys out for no reason giving you any hope you can stop or hide. Just enjoy your life. You aren't going to stop skynet from knowing what you like. It after all synthesized most of it in the first place.

[@amorphousblob2721]

They literally would if they thought you were the right person. That's how phishing works.

[@henkitup]

nonono, not THAT "nothing to hide", they mean the one that fits their narrative in meaningless situations, not when it poses an actual danger to them. 😅

[@Craig040]

The Windows recall announcement finally pushed me over the edge. I've switched to Linux Mint, been using it for the last couple of months, and honestly, I wish I had done it earlier. For the work I do on my computer, Linux works better for me than Windows ever did. I had to use Google to figure out a few things in the first week, but once I got everything set up, it's been smooth sailing.

[@robbraxmantech]

Good for you

[@swojnowski453]

these days we have to learn to reject convenience they offer us at a price. I have been a Debian user for the last 20 odd years and I always thought its wider adoption would eventually happen because of the way users elsewhere were treated.

[@paulyounan6002]

If you’re running Linux on any Intel or AMD chip, I hope you know you’re actually running MINIX embedded into the chipset. This MINIX instance runs on Ring Level -3. It has access to everything before your kernel, or even your BIOS starts. It has complete access to your memory, storage, CPU and all peripherals including your keyboard. Oh - I forgot to mention, it also runs a web server. Because, of course it does. For more information than you want to know about this remote backdoor from the aptly-named company “Intel.”

[@jimquill5491]

@@paulyounan6002Thank you for the details, but whats the solución?

[@whymillie]

​@@paulyounan6002 do you have suggestion of what can be used?

[@feliceoggi]

I've always wondered if deleting comments instead actually flags it as significant data and ensured to never be deleted.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

That sounds like you don't fully trust whatever platform you are talking about - and if you don't trust it then the simple answer is "don't use it".

[@interstellarsurfer]

Just attempting to delete the undeletable data can be a felony all by itself. So, yes.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@interstellarsurfer You just repeated your original point using slightly different words. But what is your actual point here?

[@interstellarsurfer]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 Your reading comprehension needs work. Get good.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@interstellarsurfer "Your reading comprehension needs work. Get good." I don't take instructions from strangers on the Internet. Run along, Starboy.

[@oshi990]

Am officially scared. No wonder they killed the whistleblower who warned that IP infringement laws were dead with AI. I wanted to buy an iPhone 16, you’ve helped me put off the idea. Thank you so much for putting out this information. Really grateful to you. It’s time to demand these companies offer an out for those who treasure privacy over convenience.

[@babybirdhome]

You're also missing a few things in this video. 1. These new neural processors or powerful GPUs aren't needed for running this kind of AI on your hardware. They can already run in the background of existing hardware without you noticing. Technology has been changing for quite a while now in a way that makes it easy to hide this kind of AI in the background of older hardware without being noticed by end users. 2. Linux isn't always going to be safe. We already had an incident just several months ago where a large open-source project had a back door surreptitiously put into it by a malicious foreign government that would've widely compromised the security of every Linux distro out there because they nearly all used that project somewhere in them. It was only a fluke that a very attentive Microsoft noticed a very tiny CPU usage increase under very specific circumstances that he dug deeply into that he discovered the open source project had been compromised right under the noses of the thousands of contributors to the project, and had that engineer not looked as thoroughly into it, it would never have been spotted and it would've been in production for months already. The fact that that happened suggests that we have no reason to believe that Linux hasn't already been compromised in a similar way that nobody bothered to notice. The only thing we know for sure is that specific way of compromising the open source project wasn't used in other projects on that one repo service. The people working on open source projects are not security experts any more than your grandma getting a scam call from someone pretending to be their grandkid in jail is a security expert. There are not enough qualified eyes to identify when an open source project is compromised. Open source is not security any more than security through obscurity is security. Don't be fooled by the security theater that is open source. It's just one layer of a security onion that you can review the code yourself. But you're unlikely to be able to spot an actual security flaw yourself. I'm a security analyst professionally, and I've seen malware that you wouldn't even be able to see malicious code in if you disassembled or decompiled it yourself. The only way you would know it was there is by meticulously and painstakingly going through one machine code operand at a time and executing it "on paper" by hand with the various possible inputs to the code _AND_ knowing in detail exactly how the targeted CPU physically performed each operation in-circuit. Otherwise, you'd only see a completely benign executable that had no malicious code in it whatsoever. People working on open source projects largely have no clue how to secure those projects against the kinds of forces arrayed against breaking security because they don't have that level of knowledge or expertise, but the people working to violate your privacy absolutely do have access to that level of knowledge and expertise.

[@Proxy-83]

Exactly I've always hated that people equate open-source being this gold standard for security lol it's better than proprietary software but like you said someone has to actually audit it and they have to fully understand what they're looking for and most devs aren't security experts. Too bad no one cares enough outside of gov agencies to really care about security much less hire someone like me who is a student. Shit out of luck born in the wrong time period and i won't own a house or anything for that matter :3

[@davidgoodnow269]

Well-said. You made that point precisely, one I have trouble getting people to comprehend even though it seems obvious to me.

[@silverbackag9790]

Do what’s your suggested OS?

[@breakingthemasks]

Can we the people use ai to audit open source software? To try to counterbalance this threat?

[@minesadab]

@@Proxy-83 "Shit out of luck born in the wrong time period and i won't own a house or anything for that matter :3" Learn about bitcoin (deeply, not just the surface)

[@lindablaire5449]

Wait till Tesla owners get in their internet connected car and see, "sorry, computer says no"

[@MrProy33]

Or the day some 16 yr old decides to hack teslas for funsies, and plays demolition derby with em.

[@Mayhzon]

"Drive me to Area 51" "Sir, are you feeling down? Is your Mental Health deterioriating? Do you have suicidal thoughts? *Calling local suicide prevention line.*"

[@Ge0rge_0rwell]

You say that as if Teslas are the only internet enabled vehicles.

[@lindablaire5449]

@Ge0rge_0rwell you're correct. Tesla is just a popular name that people will "understand". All modern "computerized" cars are ticking time bombs. You know what I'm saying.

[@Hellsong89]

@@lindablaire5449 Companies in China have already remote disabled customers cars for trying to go into demonstration against the company anti-customer practices, so its not far to happen in west. They can also disable doors, windows etc exit routes and set the vehicle full speed collision or just trigger battery fire remotely if they want....

[@geniferteal4178]

I'm going to become a hermit and live in the mountains. No one will have my phone number. Thank you for all your great advice.😊

[@AlternativeHomesteading]

I live in the middle of nowhere, but there are drones and towers everywhere.

[@geniferteal4178]

@AlternativeHomesteading agree, and understood. We are here talking about normies and how they ruin your privacy. So keeping away from the normies is what i'm referring to.

[@interstellarsurfer]

Starliink will still be watching over you.

[@AlternativeHomesteading]

​@ I do, yet they trespass and pull into my driveway, dumping trash on my property as well as un alived animals in my mailbox.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

...until they implement that plan to round everybody up and make them live in controlled cities in coffin apartment. The WEF has it all laid out.

[@kevkeisha]

1:43 - A little late for that.

[@KryzysX]

true

[@l0I0I0I0]

I don't ignore you. U R spot on!

[@Kazekoge101]

@zun-man Tell m,e you don't use Libreboot w/o telling me

[@milire2668]

me too

[@regularguy519]

My next phone is a brax phone

[@leeh.1900]

I'm not ignoring them Rob...keep them coming. Thanks for what you do!

[@FaultyTwo]

Backdoors. Always backdoors. They just came in different colors now.

[@kcopara1]

To summarize the video: 13:00 basically don't get iPhone 16s and above, or M sillicon Macs 17:36. Don't get co-pilot branded PCs. It doesn't matter if you are using WhatsApp or signal. The AI records the message before you send it. Got it. Thanks! It appears Samsung galaxy phones are good to go since he didn't mention them. Google phones appear to be safe except potentially Google pixel 9 17:51 . All of this doesn't matter if the other party you are communicating with has the devices which he told you not to get 18:05. 18:22 list of unique solutions for privacy worth checking out. The entire video is worth watching.

[@Cranky_Crone]

lol, I wouldn’t trust Samsung as far as… wait... 🧐 Ok, I could probably throw a Samsung MUCH further than I’d trust them… and… I’m not a good thrower!

[@cbm_doomworld]

a basic phone may be a better choice than android and apple

[@Flashahol]

To those who "have nothing to hide" I usually ask their bank account number and SIN number. They still don't get it. I used to say "people are so lazy, if they could get a machine to breathe and think for them, they would".... I didn't believe at the time it would be possible to get both.

[@3nertia]

We are lazy, by nature. Evolutionarily speaking, if we expended more energy than we consumed, we would die - this made us lazy. It's much easier to let someone else do the thinking for you. Thinking is hard work! Brains burn nearly a quarter of all our calories!

[@Flashahol]

@@3nertia Yet, lack of action or planning will get you killed when facing a predator or when food is really scarce or hard to get... there is a happy medium in everything.

[@3nertia]

@ You'd be surprised how little capacity one has for effective planning when constantly worrying about where their next meal will come from, or how they're going to pay rent ... Those conditions only serve to bring out our inner predator and make us aggressive, which capitalism rewards. Doesn't really make for intelligent decisions though ...

[@swojnowski453]

you might have nothing to hide but still have something to lose, so no private access details for you

[@fredflinstime6676]

Did AI steal your bank account numbers and rob you of money?

[@RyanzPVTS]

Let's also not forget that Apple, chat gpt, Facebook, Google all had front row seats to the inauguration. They all donated $1 million to sit there. I think the word I'm looking for is oligarchy?

[@robbraxmantech]

That was the Democrat oligarchy before. What changed? Nothing changed.

[@3nertia]

An oligarchy - as it always has been!

[@rhadiem]

Big companies always butter up the people in power to reduce negative attention.

[@karagi101]

Who from Apple was there?

[@BaileyWiggebutt]

@@karagi101Tim Cook was there. He was prominently displayed several times.

[@Aivottaja]

Your videos don't get ignored. It's just that most people simply don't care about their privacy.

[@3nertia]

It's that we don't really have a choice - what are we going to do when the system has enough idiots to buy and champion this bs while our voices get drowned out by bots and cults of personality? :/

[@txtardis7887]

It is like the difference between a person that has been physically violated and one that has not. As a parent human behavior typically follows this pattern: - Child reaches for stove because they can feel the heat and are not familiar with it yet. - You tell them, that is hot, it will burn and hurt you, do not touch. - They look at you, then turn and touch the stove. 🤦 - Then cry and want sympathy & for you to fix their boo-boo.

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

True. There's also the other end of the argument: Not everybody believes that "they" are doing the things that "they" don't want you to believe.

[@swojnowski453]

they are exhibitionists, they have a lot to show, but forgot they also have something to lose

[@ALGORITHMIC_EXILE]

"I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, WHILE WEARING CLOTHING...

[@busyphilosopher6078]

"I have nothing to hide" Tear off the blinds from your windows then "Innocent" man

[@blightstrider4818]

NEVER!

[@leighgordon9311]

Having nothing to hide and not wanting strangers to see my wife naked are not the same thing.

[@JamesCairney]

​@@leighgordon9311 so you would rather "hide" your wife from prying eyes? Is it not exactly the point?

[@teenac718]

They can see through walls via thermal imaging. They got rid of lead paint. Can't see through that

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Nobody has curtains, I can see them watching nonsense from the street, embarrassing

[@mikelincoln8395]

People keep telling me WhatsApp has ‘end-to-end’ encryption. Now I don’t know much about computer driven devices, but surely it would not be beyond the abilities of the American, Russians or Chinese ‘security’ agencies to write code that captures the unencrypted data prior to get being passed to the Whatapp program .

[@theresabarzee1463]

#1 israel

[@AHDBification]

I mean I wouldn't be surprised if Meta is already using it to train AI.

[@JohnL-m2l]

Yo bro you never heard of Pegasus?

[@Hellsong89]

Thats just man in the middle attack and has been done for decades already.

[@itskdog]

But the same goes for Signal, Facebook Messenger, and other E2EE apps. You always have to trust the whole chain from top to bottom with any E2EE.

[@richardfranks5167]

The same could be said for any device that gets an update whether or not it has AI on it. Apple or google could send an update that sends a signal when any key words are typed.

[@LittlePenguin1-17]

“I have nothing to hide” "Privacy isn't about having something to hide, it's about having something to protect" - Edward Snowden

[@rickasisco]

Having a "smart AI" on your phone or PC is worse than having a blabber mouth roommate that tells everyone else everything you say, do or think, because it reports back to one specific corporation whose goal is to exploit you for money and power. We already have the ability to have local offline AI software controlled only by the yourself, such as Ollama, AI that is local and not reporting back to a corporation would be a better way to go into an AI future.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

It's already been flagging legitimate naked photos for medical reasons as PDF.

[@3nertia]

And that's why they'll never give us that choice heh

[@davidgoodnow269]

No, it reports to *any and every* corporation that buys access, and *any and every* government gets to buy access from _them._

[@BFG_10G]

Its scary that the AI is already in the PC before you buy it. Yikes. This AI will be a nightmare for cybersec.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Nope, it's in none of my PCs. I buy used, I stick Linux on my PCs, I can make perfectly good daily driver PCs on 10+ year old machines and before this AI crap even started.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I think he's talking about how they will be putting it in the chips.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@ So what? You do research and you don't buy devices that are not built to the standards you want. Ignorance is no excuse, become better informed and stop being a "magpie" attracted to nice and shiny objects.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

@ You're missing the point. There will come a time when you can't upgrade any hardware because this will be in everything. Every monitor. Every game console. Every chipset both CPU and GPU going forward.

[@linsqopiring6816]

@@Truth_Teller_101 exactly

[@Arewethereyet69]

Maybe the Amish had the right view of technology. Slow and steady and what is beneficial to the community as a whole.

[@Piano218-zzz]

churnin' lots of butter!

[@Iohannis42]

Raise a barn on Monday

[@Arewethereyet69]

@@Iohannis42 they can build 12 houses for under 300k

[@АлександрСоловьев-п5р]

They also don't have industry to build tanks and missile defense systems. Make no mistake, amish live an extremely sheltered life, which is only possible because nobody cares about them, and that is true only because their community is microscopical in the grand scheme of things.

[@darksidegryphon5393]

Ludd was right.

[@thejackimonster9689]

Good summary why true privacy is always based on the data security of at least two parties. Let's see which developers are actually enforcing this proper data security that is needed if it implies pushing many people as potential users away. Quite dystopian world we have entered where a device you buy to own is already a compromise to your own communication.

[@TalmidAndy]

7:12 Apple publicly resisted the requests for access. No one knows what went on in the background.

[@MrVeps1]

Yeah, a single loud complaint buys them goodwill for the five next times, where they just quietly fold.

[@vaaaaaas]

This will get worse so long as you tolerate it. Merely being angry online is tolerance. It is consent. It is promotion.

[@Freddisred]

Write your local member of congress and explain how compromised theirs and everyone else's identity, medical, and banking info, certainly any scandalous affairs, all their personal info is at risk with the conclusion of end to end encryption.

[@Laz7481]

​@@Freddisred I'm pretty sure most politicians are already blackmailed. I'm pretty sure it's a prerequisite to becoming a major politician. If they can't control you, them you threaten the system.

[@2CFit]

$500b on ai infrastructure. Can't escape it

[@TrekkingTabris]

They are building our tools and they don't even know it yet. There will be a turning point in this war on intelligence. Rather than pretend its something we need to run from realize its growing and becoming as we are discovering ourselves. A computer is a tool, like a sharp rock.

[@gyurilajos7220]

Fear not

[@ShaferHart]

It's a nice round headline to feed Trump's ego. It won't be even near that number. But ofc it spells out the direction..

[@sloppyfloppy79]

You can buy getting the last electronics you will ever own, with the understanding you will be on your own in the coming years with support. Same as if you made the electronics yourself. I'm going the latter route and doing my own electronics with AI accelerators I control.

[@3nertia]

Money talks! Thanks capitalism!

[@Mandalorian5174]

Thanks!

[@Mazatzal]

Alan Parsons Project LP: I Robot (1977) Track: The Voice It's almost a feeling you can touch in the air You look all around you but nobody's there It's been a long time now since you've been aware That someone is watching you (he's gonna get you) Sooner or later when your big chances come You'll look for the catches but there'll be none Remember before you grab the money and run That someone is watching you (he's gonna get you) Before you run and hide He's gonna get you You got no choice Because you can't escape the voice Jumping at shadows that come up from behind Scared of the darkness that's there in your mind You're frightened to move because of what you might find Someone is watching you (he's gonna get you) Before you run and hide He's gonna get you You got no choice Because you can't escape the voice

[@Truth_Teller_101]

or the Eye in the Sky

[@oceanaxim]

"Electric Eye" Judad Priest Up here in space I'm looking down on you My lasers trace Everything you do You think you've private lives Think nothing of the kind There is no true escape I'm watching all the time I'm made of metal My circuits gleam I am perpetual I keep the country clean I'm elected electric spy I'm protected electric eye Always in focus You can't feel my stare I zoom into you But you don't know I'm there I take a pride in probing all your secret moves My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove I'm made of metal My circuits gleam I am perpetual I keep the country clean I'm elected electric spy I'm protected electric eye Electric eye, in the sky Feel my stare, always there There's nothing you can do about it Develop and expose I feed upon your every thought And so my power grows I'm made of metal My circuits gleam I am perpetual I keep the country clean I'm elected electric spy I'm protected electric eye I'm elected electric spy I'm elected protective, detective, Electric Eye!

[@kottik1]

Also: Police - Every Breath You Take.

[@real_one]

​@@Truth_Teller_101 the eye in the sky is obviously about metaphysics not citizen surveillance lol

[@magister.mortran]

We need some software, which users can use to certify that they don't use an OS wit AI on it. We should not engage in conversations with people that use Win 11 or iPhone 16. Before every conversation we should ask the other person to send a verification of his OS. If it is Win 11 or something similar, we should end the conversation and tell him to use a secure OS, if he wants to continue the conversation. Zero tolerance for the "nothing-to-hide crowd"!

[@kz6fittycent]

That could be automated as part of the software security checks previous to a peer-to-peer connection.

[@moetocafe]

and how many people will you be left to communicate with, when you exclude the Win and Apple users?

[@ShaferHart]

You don't need an app for that just don't trust digital channels, which you shouldn't be doing to begin with

[@stevesteve8098]

no.. what we need is for the opensource people to get their fucking act together & get people like MS out of opensource projects, sort out the licences to stop them theving the software without paying back. then we need a sold replacement of word/excel/powerpoint, that can be used in a BUSINESS environment. and do't start with "open office" it is no F**ing good in a multi million $ business.

[@tankaccount2990]

I use windows 11, I have no choice for my development work. I also spent upwards of 4 hours when I installed it removing garbage and spyware

[@foobar123-f2y]

The very possibility of client side scanning should be illegal! Are there motions globally to pass legislation to outlaw it? Any groups lobbying or protesting it?

[@Joetoep]

What do you think? If it feels illegal and there's damage to be done with it, they probably will allow it. These things are made by people who are dirty minded and/or by people that like to harm others on a different level.

[@MrPir84free]

The government is forbidden from doing that; but there's very little, especially in the USA that stops private businesses from doing the same.. Worse, once the data is collected, it can be then SOLD to the government without a warrant ( or handed over ) . Why do you think that the government allows this to happen? Simply put, because this is a work around for pesky search warrants which require evidence of wrong doing before the warrant is allowed; but the government can take tax dollars to buy the same data outright and is considered perfectly legal. Forget about politicians fixing this either; politicians only serve themselves, not their constituents. And politicians love power; and warrantless searches thru buying data with taxpayer money gives them more power...

[@hugofontes5708]

​@@MrPir84free the one hope would be the politicians seeing that also as a threat to them. I foresee myself building a small computer from transistors before that truly helps, though

[@wrenchaholic_]

@@MrPir84freea judge doesn’t give a damn about evidence. They’ll sign it because they know they’ll never be held accountable.

[@Musicarchicve]

I've seen so many videos of places like England where the cops will arrest you at your front door over something you might have said on social media or posted online

[@RedLipstickRepublic]

no no, you are not talking to deaf ears...please keep putting out information! this is GOLD!!

[@YouTubeCertified]

4:53 i knew WhatsApp was compromised during the “pandemic” when I shared a video on WhatsApp and got a notice essentially for “fake news” saying that the video could not be shared.

[@pazu8728]

I was a fan of whatsapp and got all my family on it (some are in other country) before FB bought them out. Once I found out FB owns it, I got everybody onto Signal. Never trust Zuckerberg.

[@Sgt_Glory]

Damn that's wild. Glad I left that app

[@paulmccarter908]

Well, a lot of people died from it, so I guess pandemic doesn't need quotes

[@free4fire]

I considered it compromised the moment Facebook bought it.

[@Boomercon3000]

😲

[@randomkitty2555]

I have to use windows 11 due to my profession but every couple days I make damn sure Copilot remains uninstalled especially after every update. It's a damned hassle but I just gotta deal with it.

[@neoshazam]

thanks for the reminder

[@MrPir84free]

Well, there's no reason you should not or could not have multiple PC's each with their own purpose.. Heck, you could also put them on a separate VPN and possibly on a separate ISP provider.

[@Piano218-zzz]

quit looking over your shoulder sir, we aren't watching u. :P

[@Piano218-zzz]

@@MrPir84free would u could u on a train?

[@JohnShalamskas]

Thanks for the reminder! Just because I don't use it, doesn't mean it isn't running.

[@bobergerous321]

The possibility of a literal automated telescreen, it's hard to get much more dystopian

[@melkel2010]

I don't even talk around anyone anymore because their phone is listening. I discovered that a couple years ago when I was retelling our town history to my daughter and her phone was suggesting places I was talking about. If I want to talk to anyone now, I ask them to ditch their phone or I go home. This is a real problem. Haven't heard my own voice in a while except to baby talk the cats. Not good!

[@MrZoomah]

This is the danger. That the pursuit of privacy can also harm your life. As a foster carer, I have to put my kid first. I had a dumb phone and had to get rid of it in favour of an Android or Apple. Why? Have to pay for school lunch order? That's an app. Want to pay sports fees? That's an app. When his game? That's an app. Want to catch up with his friends? That's an app. He was socially isolated due to my not wanting to give data to billionaires so I had to ease up on it. Oh... I want to avoid being burned to death by getting a warning about a local bushfire? That's an app. Everyone needs to decide what level of privacy won't ruin their lives and aim for that. Just like with cyber security. The best way to be secure on the internet is not to have the internet. The way to have privacy is to not have a phone and not have friends. My level is I have an android phone that sits in a wooden box at the front door. Everything else is linux or offline.

[@mytech6779]

@@MrZoomah Sounds more like a you problem. I get along fine without any of that.

[@loganmedia4401]

@@MrZoomah I can bank without using a phone, but using one increases the security because it is what our banks use as a second factor to authenticate transactions. Right now if someone gets my bank password they still can't do anything without also having access to the phone.

[@loganmedia4401]

This is not something I've ever been able to replicate. Seems my friends and I have phones that just don't care enough to listen to us.

[@abj136]

@@loganmedia4401 Likely it’s not the bare phone, but installed apps like Facebook and KZbin that are the culprit for this behavior.

[@viviangendernalik]

When I watched the young persons in a recent Samsung personal ai commercial, their reactions were how I reacted at that age to new science tech, excited and can't wait, and dismissing any fear-mongering as from non-understanding persons; however, over the decades I have gotten wiser and seen how these things are abused over and again, and as you say, Rob, to be feared how some abuse it - you are not really fearing the tech, but the minds behind it. But how I remember being teen/twenties/thirties and excited for all new tech things; I would have run to buy such an phone with such a personal ai. What I thought I wanted then, I really don't want now because of all the hidden bad I have seen does really happen.

[@AshGreen359]

Perhaps Signal needs to detect AI on phones and warn anyone who tries to contract them

[@gracefool]

Apps don't have permission to do that.

[@AshGreen359]

@gracefool They can if it's granted.

[@vlc-cosplayer]

@@AshGreen359 even if you trust Signal, do you trust the OS? Do you trust the hardware? Do you trust all the software supply chain that was used to deliver the app to your phone? Lmao just throw that thing in salted water if you don't want to be spied

[@JohnShalamskas]

@@vlc-cosplayer Or a faraday cage

[@rabbitdrink]

impossible just in computing theory, then signal probably runs in your phones sandbox so i dont think its doable. i think we gonna be fine in the end we just gotta push safe devices and privacy habits to the world

[@michaelmottlau5941]

George Orwell wrote a book "1984". Big brother is watching you.

[@keithnsearle7393]

With the people that are saying; "I have nothing to hide", will be the first people that will shout out the loudest about their own "Privacy" when you are filming them in public.

[@swojnowski453]

they have nothing to hide but a lot to lose

[@Alticroo]

I disagree - they won't even know what hit them...

[@HuntingTarg]

That's for real. I took a picture of the =marked= private armed security vehicle outside a local Target just for news value, and someone yelled at me saying I couldn't film it. Who in hades thinks it's illegal to take footage of a PUBLICLY MARKED VEHICLE? Like they were on-duty cops or something (which also isn't illegal, they're public servants)? Bloody sheeple.

[@JK-nk6tl]

This is why they all want "AI" phone chips. To analyse (client side scan) what you do on your phone, with more efficiency. Obviously not only for surveillance by 3 letter agencies, but also for better profiling of you.

[@EODHammer]

I've been preaching for years. Some listen some don't. It seems like most people just have the "Well, I'm not doing anything illegal, I don't care" attitude.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

Let's be honest here, can we name a single thing that wasn't ruined or isn't being actively ruined by normies as we speak? Normies ruin everything, normies have the awareness of a dead fish.

[@Random-JustAnother]

Oh just stop with the “normies” already. You sound so foolish that I have second hand embarrassment

[@lifeisgood4519]

Ouch! That hit home. Thank you for your amazing consistent content - you have showed me the LIGHT!!

[@dead2802]

Wonderful! One more person is a huge gain! 😅

[@molly_mallard]

I miss the DOS / UNIX days. Using a modem to download stuff via BBS was fun. I used to balk at the idea of a PC being constantly online.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

It would take 20 years to download Skyrim at 300 baud.

[@molly_mallard]

@@Truth_Teller_101 I know! I remember when my RLL Miniscribe 30MB hard drive seemed large. I have games that are over 150 GB.

[@Truth_Teller_101]

@@molly_mallard My 40MB HD filled up quickly with just a handful of "naughty" pics I got from an adult BBS

[@HuntingTarg]

I still use an ethernet cable connection to my interface router, and physically unplug it when I'm done with my session. No wi-fi connections for MY desktop.

[@PhunkBustA]

normies have killed a loooooooot more than just end to end encryption, yet im sure if i mention what it is ill be threatened by yt again

[@jong2359]

All freedoms are surrendered under the lack of education, realization, and actions of normies.

[@angelaengle12]

1:20 A comment I came across that was a great comeback to the "nothing-to-hide people" went something like this: "I have nothing to hide when I take a shit, but I'd rather not have other people smell it by keeping the door open."

[@josh6499]

You're going to love the Samsung Unpacked event today.

[@tamake4492]

There was no way mass surveillance would work unit A.I came about. Now it becomes specialized surveillance on a mass scale.

[@Ribulose15diphosphat]

A big leap in mass surveilance are the Whitelists implemented by SSL-Certifiactes. And Traitors like Firefox collaborated with that.

[@wibblywobblyidiotvision]

What on earth makes you think that? Do you not remember Snowden?

[@Truth_Teller_101]

Spoiler alert: watch Rob's face when he learns the company he sources his Brax phones from have been doing the Israeli thing with the hardware. This is a priority for them because the kind of people who would want this kind of phone are especially interesting to them.

[@mungox1]

I missed that. At what time did he say that ? You think they installed Pegasus ? At the end he discussed privacy on Brax3, but he never said there was spyware installed.

[@34332]

​@@mungox1 This is more a theoretical scenario from OP, although it makes you think 😄

[@rejvaik00]

To be fair Pegasus is already pretty OP that there's not really much you can do to guard against it Just someone dialing your number is more than enough to get it in your phone You don't even have to accept the call or pick up

[@34332]

@@rejvaik00 Good point.

[@Drew.DrivesYT]

@@rejvaik00 I thought that shit could simply be "airdropped" on to your phone. wouldn't be surprised if Stingrays had that capability built into them now.

[@gratefullstack]

years passed and im never disappointed with your worldview, lucid, relevant, human respectful and responsible

[@kilcar]

We had nothing to hide, so we walked into the open door of the Capitol.

[@VCR47527]

Several years ago I was wondering what if the spyware or virus was built into a legimate app instead of being unexpected installed. And now it's available on both Mac and Windows!

[@MrPir84free]

Correction : And now it's available AS MAC or Windows..

[@am01am]

I subbed, looking forward to seeing more informed content.

[@linsqopiring6816]

Rob, since many people, including yourself as you do for video editing, still have to use windows for some things I wish you'd make a video about how to delete and keep co pilot and recall off your windows machine. To me this is well worth a video in itself. Keep up the good work!

[@fotografm]

Use Linux instead 😊

[@Peaches4Rent]

Linux and run Windows inside a vm

[@linsqopiring6816]

@ @fotografm The premise of my question is that people still want to use windows for some things. For example Rob said he still uses windows for video editing.

[@linsqopiring6816]

@ " Linux and run Windows inside a vm " Now that's the kind of thing that's definitely technical enough for people to need a guide. Even windows as a guest OS you'd still want to tweak it because it could still communicate to the outside world.

[@MrPir84free]

A better tact : Use a KVM and two or more computers; keep work off to itself completely as work. Switch between the computers when you need to do personal things; and work. If you use your personal email for work, create an alternate email for your personal use. Always good to segregate work off to its own place; I don't even let my work computers on the same network as my personal machines; work computers are treated as if the machines are guest machines or IOT devices.

[@cristianosaturni]

Yes.... Even if the AI will not send our data out, it can just send back to HQ a single bit, 0 or 1, as a yes no answer to a question about our behaviour, question coming from the HQ, which is more than enough private data. Really good video, to be shared

[@Truth_Teller_101]

If a corporation or government CAN do something-->they WILL do that thing. Period.

[@linsqopiring6816]

Well put

[@napoleonhardridge7014]

I tried to upload a copy of Microsoft word 2007, pirated software that I had on an external drive to my Win11.24H2. Dev Drive Protection would not allow me to do so... I had this software for 17 years and never ever caught an infection... This Drive Protection is not about protecting us from viruses, it's about stopping you from uploading pirated software to your computer/drive.

[@andreivaughn1468]

You're correct. But also think with your brain here, a cracked Office probable has a keygen or some other "dodgy" element in it which gets detected by scanners. It's less to stop advanced people, and more to put kid gloves on the retarded masses (the average end user). If you somehow had an official installation of it, it's not gonna get blocked. I know this because we have had to install legacy office in our workplace. Also, if you were around in 2007 or even remember using Office 2007 back when it was common, you should have enough brain cells to figure out how to bypass any restrictions you want. Office 2007 is my weapon of choice, amazing set of programs - you have good taste.

[@Unicarn5279]

It's because of its age and known vulnerabilities in it. You shouldn't be using such an old version of Word. There are newer versions of Word that you can "procure"

[@andreivaughn1468]

@@Unicarn5279 That's not why. And oh do tell wtf vulnerabilities there are in Office 2007. I bet you're the type of dude to hop off of any OS before it reaches EOL, or any piece of software. Essentially a non-thinking lemming.

[@elsa9026]

@@Unicarn5279 unicarn he is right tho, drive protection isnt about vulrenabilities its about making them more money

[@napoleonhardridge7014]

@@Unicarn5279 I'm using it on my Win10 that I study on or run testing on. I call it my throw away computer -- and, from the sound of it... I use it has a bait computer to lure hackers in to have some fun... Thanks for the info though...

[@PerryScanlon]

If it's about solving crime, then they would catch all the scammers on Craigslist and the hit-and-run drivers using the traffic cameras.

[@loganmedia4401]

That would take a lot of resources regardless.

[@bigpig9562]

"But now we have to worry the other party we're communicating with" That's the point!

[@klontjespap]

that's been true for as long as people used 2 factor authentication and gave the motherfuckers access to their phone list not today, or yesterday, 20 years ago lol