Brazil's Video Game Gray Markets

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@italloalexsander
@italloalexsander 7 жыл бұрын
We do love videogames here in Brazil. The PS2 piracy reached a level so absurd that i would go to a street market to buy vegetables and someone with a small cart would be selling bootleg movies and ps2 games right at the side of where you would pick up some tomatoes. You could buy like three games for 5 reais(at that time, this was about 2.5 USD) IIRC. Some things have changed tho. Steam adopting Brazil currency and selling games cheaper to match the lower income of the average citizen was awesome and made me switch to pc gaming. Unfortunately the PSN is still way behind on that. The average price they expect you to pay for a game at launch is 250 Reais(77 USD), and that's not really an option for most people. Sorry in advance for butchering the english language. Language which i've learned only because i played a lot of resident evil with a dictionary at my side.
@GuntherSchmidl
@GuntherSchmidl 7 жыл бұрын
In my experience, the only people apologizing for butchering a non-native language are the ones who speak/write it better than many natives :) This also applies to you.
@italloalexsander
@italloalexsander 7 жыл бұрын
thanks duder
@RazielBR
@RazielBR 7 жыл бұрын
And in some places you still can find weird ass pirate copies of PS2 games. Oh the "Bomba Patches" for PES...
@KCzz15
@KCzz15 7 жыл бұрын
My only experience with Brazilians amounts to "the ruiners of MMOs", it's nice to see another side of that.
@unthinkabilities
@unthinkabilities 7 жыл бұрын
Your english is really good! keep rocking :)
@msab4883
@msab4883 7 жыл бұрын
Same in many parts of Asia and Middle east, piracy is what drive the consoles sales, and Nintendo always who leaves the market first
@msab4883
@msab4883 7 жыл бұрын
Watch Me Play Games wii In many places was the 2nd most popular Nintendo system since NES (same with DS) for how easy to pirate,the thing is Nintendo leave the market if it doesn’t provide enough sale,while Sony,MS even Sega chase the %10-20 of consumers who buy legit games
@SomalieDXB
@SomalieDXB 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true! Growing up in Dubai in the 80s and 90s kinda got me nostalgic when they were talking about the piracy and the game console sales. I remember a time when my local game stores would warn us about raids as well. Didn't know the gaming industry in Brazil was very similar to the Middle East in the 80s and 90s.
@blinks486
@blinks486 6 жыл бұрын
The Middle Eastern gaming market in the 80s and 90s relied heavily on piracy. My dad told me he used to play a NES Clone that had a lot of games pre loaded into them lol.
@tyffani9931
@tyffani9931 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of Brazilian people learnt English from playing pirated video games and using a Portuguese-English dictionary to understand it.
@iracidondas6908
@iracidondas6908 7 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian i can say that 90% of the comments start witn " as a Brazilian"
@hpfred
@hpfred 7 жыл бұрын
As a brazillian, this video is gold! Is just amazing watching the outside point of view of the brazillian video game's market.
@luccaskammer
@luccaskammer 7 жыл бұрын
Right? You never notice how insane it is ultill you get an outsider's perspective
@andremalerba5281
@andremalerba5281 7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you! We are used with all this crazyness because it is the way it is since we were born
@imdannymartins
@imdannymartins 7 жыл бұрын
tvps2blogspotcom I just got an Xbox X. In Brazil is 4k Reais. What a Scam!!!!!
@andremalerba5281
@andremalerba5281 7 жыл бұрын
MiamiACR Hey look we got a neonazi over here!
@sumimaind
@sumimaind 4 жыл бұрын
btw, FINALLY a documentary about Brazil that shows more than just Carnaval and favela! Brazil is a huge country with so many interesting topics to dive into...
@ABlackPatriot
@ABlackPatriot 7 жыл бұрын
I would much rather call Pac Man "Eat Eat". 😂 that's a great name.
@iNeeos
@iNeeos 7 жыл бұрын
Chapolin was a popular TV Show in Brasil? Who knew. Also, this scene can also be experienced in Peru, polvos azules.
@Fiaspo
@Fiaspo 6 жыл бұрын
One cool curiosity to tell, is that TecToy got the license for the Street Fighter game, and she herself developed a Street Fighter 2 for the Master System on her own. Something totally official!
@henriquebg89
@henriquebg89 6 жыл бұрын
In a 8-bit console with a very impressive fidelity that even impressed Capcom's producer. =)
@TheCudlitz
@TheCudlitz 6 жыл бұрын
She?
@raymodg.8039
@raymodg.8039 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yea
@jonhcena3809
@jonhcena3809 6 жыл бұрын
Fiaspo oi fiaspo
@nagatouzumaki9652
@nagatouzumaki9652 6 жыл бұрын
she????
@EposVox
@EposVox 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad there's preservationists working on that stuff. Genesis ports as late as 2009?!
@SlayerProRR
@SlayerProRR 4 жыл бұрын
9:54 cultura mexicana en Brazil
@Troupiall
@Troupiall 7 жыл бұрын
i wish someone would do something like this for Venezuela :o is impossible to even get a game here.
@viiinicius17
@viiinicius17 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Jair Bolsonaro is coming. Just wait my friend, one day this communist shit will be defeated, and you will have freedom. This guy will be like the Donald Trump of South America.
@MrRaymos23
@MrRaymos23 7 жыл бұрын
What game you need I’ll Send it to you homie
@Troupiall
@Troupiall 7 жыл бұрын
haha thanks for the offer but i actually met some friends in final fantasy XIV back when i could play it and they have been helping me a lot they even sent me a nintendo switch recently which is crazy! i never ask them anything because i feel terrible asking for games but when they send them they won't let me say no lol
@MrRaymos23
@MrRaymos23 7 жыл бұрын
ivaneiroX hey no problem . Strong believer everyone should be able to escape the harsh reality of life every now and then thru gaming . Also to be able to play some of these awesome ass games out now a days ! Lol
@Troupiall
@Troupiall 7 жыл бұрын
Games have been big for me in these times of crisis they help so much my latest experience was Mario Odyssey and i had such a huge smile while playing through the whole game! sounds dumb but it was so amazing lol
@marinothird
@marinothird 7 жыл бұрын
Video games... Proving to be the best english teacher that a brazilian boy can have. Hue hue hue hue
@gabrielreisdeoliveira6830
@gabrielreisdeoliveira6830 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Loved this piece of documentary: 2 things i would like to add: First: You guys have to understand that a video-game costing 2000~4000 R$ and just convert this to the US$ currency isn't too accurate. Because you are not paying 500$ dollars on a 400$ dollar imported console. It sounds fair if was like that, right? I'm not an economist but to put it simply, the minimum monthly wage in Brasil is R$972,00 to this date. This is EXTREMELY expensive, much more than it looks. In a country like here with all this social discrepancy, this is a hobby that many people can't simple afford it. Just to put in perspective, 2000 is like 4 months of grocery for a 4 family people or 4 months of rent in a suburb apartment in the city i live (Belo Horizonte-MG). With games on launch going for R$279,00, this is a quarter of a minimum wage sallary. Second: As long as the gray market goes, Brazilians have the fame for their resourcefulness, right? Here we had the "Locadoras" or roughly translating the rental places. In the 90's and 00's it was to expensive to buy the cartridges and you didn't had as many options as you have today, like buy, sell or trade used games. So Film rentals would also offer a long range of games to rent. But what makes this really interesting was that the people who used to rent games also put video-games for rent on their stores. So you could go to this store where they would have a bunch of video-games hooked on tvs and you could pay to play games there paying by the hour. This was as comon as arcades in Brasil. You should talk to @izzynobre, a brazillian vlogger who is erradicated in canada and a huge oldscholl games nerd. He has awesome histories about the locadoras, and can provide some cool insight. This doc is awesome, but sadly is hard to even scratch the surface of this subject here, due the so many nuances. Video-games are so expensive here due to our high import taxes, and in a point in our history, the government put video-games in the same category as slot-machines, so they could be classified as gambling machines and be taxed in 70% in their value, if i'm not mistaken. I"m looking forward to the next episode! (sorry bout the grammar, learned to speak english with the video-games!)
@lucasgomes6096
@lucasgomes6096 7 жыл бұрын
1:29 I'd like to correct this part. The PS4 for 4000 reais was imported by Sony, not produced. When it was actually produced in Brazil the price was dropped to 2.600 reais (Source: www.techtudo.com.br/noticias/noticia/2015/09/saiba-o-que-muda-apos-fabricacao-do-playstation-4-no-brasil.html)
@lucianosantos7575
@lucianosantos7575 7 жыл бұрын
yes! and to corret the santa efigênia price part. in stanta efigênia cost around 1.200
@scialla2
@scialla2 7 жыл бұрын
Nowadays you can get a ps4 PRO for around 1600 to 1800
@CaioPBD
@CaioPBD 7 жыл бұрын
When the ps4 came out in 2013 i found one for 1400 reais on Uruguaiana (rio de janeiro).
@StupidFlyish
@StupidFlyish 7 жыл бұрын
Patético vcs três falando inglês aí onde compraram mais barato o console.
@iShionSinX
@iShionSinX 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and Sony Brazil used the shelf price for it, they were using the retail $500 as base for their price calculation, we had to pay full USA price PLUS Sony Brazil cut on it plus taxes, it was absurd.
@CandisClassicGameShrine
@CandisClassicGameShrine 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard stories of how gaming was in Brazil from my father. It's really cool to see things he would tell me about put into a video. Brazil and gaming has been such a fascinating topic to me since my father is from São Paulo and we're a big gaming family.
@VOXELOFICIAL
@VOXELOFICIAL 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome job
@lucasferes3519
@lucasferes3519 7 жыл бұрын
TecMundo Games o/
@elyzandrooliveirakruger6032
@elyzandrooliveirakruger6032 7 жыл бұрын
Realmente incrível.
@thalisK999
@thalisK999 7 жыл бұрын
Que tecmundo games o que, aqui eh baixaki jogos kkkk
@elyzandrooliveirakruger6032
@elyzandrooliveirakruger6032 7 жыл бұрын
Saudades: ''E se inscreve pra fazer parte da resistência BJ.''
@KromerOficial
@KromerOficial 7 жыл бұрын
Passa a Gamertag
@marc.silden
@marc.silden 7 жыл бұрын
15:23 In Brazil we have this important expressions, like "eita carái".
@powerhcm8
@powerhcm8 7 жыл бұрын
That can be adapted to Holy shit.
@Dargnoisdead
@Dargnoisdead 7 жыл бұрын
Brasileiro é foda kkjkkkjjk
@Shield_OW
@Shield_OW 7 жыл бұрын
eu sou ouvi agora, lol
@murilospineli2241
@murilospineli2241 7 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAAHHA huebr
@luismunoz-lq7bz
@luismunoz-lq7bz 7 жыл бұрын
Close to spanish, "esta carajo"
@raulgarrucho3962
@raulgarrucho3962 7 жыл бұрын
Drew's reaction to the popularity of the Xbox 360 because of the piracy is kinda funny (as a brazilian), this is so normal here, have a "jailbreakble" console can make you way ahead against your competitor in hardware sales (but, obviously kill majory of software sales, in the same time, can make a already big game so popular that also can potentially grow sales a bit, works like a marketing "full game demo" for your friend our friends group, what is crazy). Nice Work Drew and some love for the Jogabilidade Crew
@ljelman6321
@ljelman6321 7 жыл бұрын
People and companies will never understand that piracy helps them in the long run. 99% of the people that pirate ,wouldn't buy those games anyway, or can't afford to buy them!
@BihagDave
@BihagDave 7 жыл бұрын
Same here in India. I have had friends who refused to buy a PS3, just because it couldn't be jail broken at the time.
@mvShooting
@mvShooting 7 жыл бұрын
In Chile is more or less the same. When the Wii could be "jailbroken," its sales skyrocketed. The same with the 3DS currently.
@cooliofoolio
@cooliofoolio 7 жыл бұрын
That's why I bought a Wii. Most Wii games aren't that good.
@osamaroum
@osamaroum 7 жыл бұрын
same in my country algeria.
@mrdaym
@mrdaym 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck I love passionate people talking about things they're passionate about.
@ooof5281
@ooof5281 6 жыл бұрын
Man this was cool! Kind of reminds me of Mexico. All these older systems in certain parts are thriving to this day!
@SUP-BITCHES
@SUP-BITCHES 6 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Rodarte ikr that's what i thoght when i saw this video
@NowOnAFM
@NowOnAFM 7 жыл бұрын
Brazil’s current market is very similar to how Saudi Arabia’s game market was from the 90s until the mid 2000s. Piracy drove hardware sales here and pirated grey shops were everywhere. Official electronic game sales were 100% based on US imports and it was an expensive hobby. Not as expensive as Brazil though. After the PS3 started and lead an official release and distribution in Saudi, the landscape changed. Prices went down for games and hardware. Microsoft and Nintendo followed suite. Government started shutting down grey shops which sold pirated games.
@LordLOC
@LordLOC 7 жыл бұрын
This was a terrific start to the series Drew. Can't wait for more :)
@SiegmundCG
@SiegmundCG 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn't even notice this was Drew's channel when I clicked on this. Nice!
@LucasOliveira-uw7gv
@LucasOliveira-uw7gv 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Brazil has a huge number of passionate players, and our history on this industry is a large, rich source of documentation like you guys did.Thank you for that approach and keep up the good work!
@mandyruu
@mandyruu 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks! As a Brazilian working in a gaming company abroad I'm eager to show this to everyone. It's really spot on and brings back so many memories! :)
@cybercop3108
@cybercop3108 7 жыл бұрын
Amanda Lira wow that's so cool. What did you study in college to get into gaming industry?
@diazcastro7331
@diazcastro7331 6 жыл бұрын
Amanda i program java mobile games with libgdx frameworks tell me is it easy to get a game programming job in company such as pandora ?
@Duranggobr
@Duranggobr 7 жыл бұрын
Great Doc ! It is important to mention that in the 80's and 90's besides the consoles, Brazil had a huge connection with Arcades ! They were absolutelly everywhere to play :D !
@ikemadi6265
@ikemadi6265 7 жыл бұрын
Diogo Braga Olha o Durango comentando! Hahahahahaha Abracos do Erva!
@dimitribarnett8638
@dimitribarnett8638 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated channel proper journalism.
@WritingOnGames
@WritingOnGames 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Drew. Utterly fascinating.
@SSAngelusx7
@SSAngelusx7 7 жыл бұрын
This Video made me cry. It proves that video games are life and no matter what the situation hey will strive.
@cyberbird2014
@cyberbird2014 7 жыл бұрын
Brazil isn't that level of shitness.
@LucasCunhaRocha
@LucasCunhaRocha 6 жыл бұрын
Venezuela is and still have a thriving video game market pretty close to what you see in this video.
@maurodriguesxr
@maurodriguesxr 6 жыл бұрын
We're not that poor. We're middle class
@ThePoark
@ThePoark 7 жыл бұрын
For me, this is the first video that captures the promise of how Cloth Map was pitched. I was starting to run a bit cold on the idea after Ukraine since it didn't quite have that direct video game culture tie-in I was expecting, but this look at Brazil is very exciting. Very much looking forward to seeing more. Great work!
@raymodg.8039
@raymodg.8039 6 жыл бұрын
thePoark ikr
@Wladislav
@Wladislav 7 жыл бұрын
Insane at how much these restrictions have impacted Brazil's video game playing populace.
@kiaayo
@kiaayo 7 жыл бұрын
Luchadeer seems to be popular in Brazil.
@cyberbird2014
@cyberbird2014 7 жыл бұрын
i don't even know what that is
@cyberbird2014
@cyberbird2014 7 жыл бұрын
so it isn't any mascot
@Thingdeux
@Thingdeux 7 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic peek into how our neighbors to the South enjoy the same hobby. Great video all around and that Guitar Hero Genesis is a thing of beauty!
@ggiento
@ggiento 7 жыл бұрын
Drew, seriously, this was awesome to watch, as a Brazilian and as a fan of yours. I'm so excited for the next videos, can't wait!
@Macho_Fantastico
@Macho_Fantastico 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, I remember hearing about how expensive the PS4 was when it launched in Brazil due to weird import issues. Crazy stuff! Those Brazilian only consoles are something I've never seen. This was super cool, great to see a side of gaming we don't often get to see.
@retrogamesejogosatuais
@retrogamesejogosatuais 7 жыл бұрын
Sim jogar video game aqui no Brasil é extremamente caro. Console da nova geração é coisa de rico para muitas famílias. O "nosso" governo brasileiro põe e abusa dos impostos em tecnologia aqui em nosso país. Eu moro em São Paulo e sim recorremos ao mercado cinza para poder jogar.
@ChuckyGamerOficial
@ChuckyGamerOficial 7 жыл бұрын
Retro Gaming LongPlay Graças ao mercado cinza posso ter um xbox one, nintendo wii u e nintendo switch, se fosse pelos meios oficiais estava fodido kkk
@kristianmoreira3852
@kristianmoreira3852 7 жыл бұрын
Cara vc.ainda joga ps2 ?
@powerhcm8
@powerhcm8 7 жыл бұрын
PC Master Race e Steam mandaram lembranças. Sim o Pc é caro mas eu não uso só pra jogos.
@jamaisnunca
@jamaisnunca 7 жыл бұрын
triste nos estados unidos e na europa o mercado cinza é simplesmente chamado de mercado de livre comércio, e aqui é como se fosse um monstro para o governo.
@imdannymartins
@imdannymartins 7 жыл бұрын
Retro Gaming LongPlay Tudo muito caro. Minha esposa me deu um Xbox1 X no Brasil. Vai ser 4 mil reais. E um absurdo!!!!
@robadc
@robadc 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact for everyone. South Africa is also very much like this. A lot less developed though.
@31rafa
@31rafa 7 жыл бұрын
Cadê o polystation??
@nebularobo8148
@nebularobo8148 7 жыл бұрын
Dude AWESOME job! It's really interesting seeing my country from the viewpoint of an outsider, it makes me more aware of how different things are here compared to other places, even when I thought I was already aware of that. Awesome seeing you guys talking to people from sites I visit every day! Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see more content (and how things are over other coutries!)
@pedromoreira6720
@pedromoreira6720 7 жыл бұрын
We have the GTA 6 for PS2!
@bs_blackscout
@bs_blackscout 7 жыл бұрын
You've done an amazing job at documenting the bizarre gaming scene of Brazil. Awesome! :D
@horokeusensei
@horokeusensei 7 жыл бұрын
At 14:30, this Lanzetta guy said that those mobile ports for this white Genesis would work on cartridges, which isn't true. This console is a SOC (system on a chip), which runs a genesis emulator on a slightly better hardware and that's what make those phone games work on it. The only actual Genesis part of those is the external case.
@SvetCookie
@SvetCookie 7 жыл бұрын
Came here to comment just that, this is accurate.
@SvetCookie
@SvetCookie 7 жыл бұрын
Inveja de você ter conhecido o Drew, Gus! Queria estar lá!
@n_3719
@n_3719 7 жыл бұрын
well who knows could be running on a cheap FPGA w/ a 68k softcore
@horokeusensei
@horokeusensei 7 жыл бұрын
Those are pretty much the same as the TecToys ones, except the ones made in china have cheaper parts and are unlicensed. Its a funny thing cause those clones are ALSO sold in brazil. Now that the new mega drive made some kind of success, some big stores are selling clones with generic names like "16 bit console" for half of the price that TecToy sells its own version. Of the course the video quality is barebones, and they doesn't have features like custom menu and sd card support.
@raymodg.8039
@raymodg.8039 6 жыл бұрын
I care
@latinsizer
@latinsizer 7 жыл бұрын
YO I LOVE THIS! After Brazil maybe you can do a series on Korea and Taiwan, they also had a very unique gaming history that wasn't parallel with what was going on with Japan and North America at the time.
@HandlebarOrionX
@HandlebarOrionX 7 жыл бұрын
It's kinda like the gaming market in South Korea. I know the Super Famicom/Super Nintendo was licensed through Hyundai and the MSX computer was remodeled as the Daewoo Zemmix line. Which are way cooler looking MSX computers. Also jeeesus that Smash Mouth conversion XD
@raymodg.8039
@raymodg.8039 6 жыл бұрын
Orion Ake ikr
@Henrikim
@Henrikim 7 жыл бұрын
Jogabilidade + Cloth Map =
@tekknking
@tekknking 7 жыл бұрын
one of the most interesting documentary videos ive watched.
@Foggen
@Foggen 7 жыл бұрын
Sao Paulo has great graffiti.
@edpereira7488
@edpereira7488 7 жыл бұрын
Some of the best in the country... look up 'Beco do Batman' for a proper sample ;)
@RicardoTondati
@RicardoTondati 7 жыл бұрын
True
@theviniso
@theviniso 7 жыл бұрын
You should take a look at Curitiba.
@Dr.SemNome
@Dr.SemNome 7 жыл бұрын
The Sao Paulo mayor have just painted all of them with a grey ulgly color...
@blipboigilgamesh7865
@blipboigilgamesh7865 7 жыл бұрын
Foggen so sad the mayor just replaced them with Bland gray walls. Here in Belém the closest we have to that grafitti consists mostly of ugly scribles in the streets
@pedromssobrinho
@pedromssobrinho 7 жыл бұрын
This was great, can't wait for more of your footage here. Awesome work.
@willxDzx1
@willxDzx1 7 жыл бұрын
Um salve para a equipe Jogabilidade! Muito bom!
@SiegmundCG
@SiegmundCG 7 жыл бұрын
Quem são esses caras?
@RodrigoMinoru
@RodrigoMinoru 7 жыл бұрын
O melhor podcast brasileiro, desde os tempos do Now Loading. Eles tem podcast de notícias da indústria e lançamentos(Vértice), de destrinchar um tema ou jogo(Dash) e muitos outros, e também vários outros no youtube.
@aquelesousa
@aquelesousa 7 жыл бұрын
O Melhor podcast de videogames Brasileiro.
@reivaxlucio
@reivaxlucio 7 жыл бұрын
Intense Opinionated Alt Chick o segundo melhor podcast do Brasil. Depois do overloadr
@jamessmith84240
@jamessmith84240 7 жыл бұрын
I feel so lucky to live where I do and have access to quality computer parts. I just got a HTC Vive last week and now I feel even more appreciative of it.
@BiancaChella
@BiancaChella 7 жыл бұрын
Teria sido legal se aos 12:50 eles aprofundassem um pouco mais a história do Telegame que é mega interessante. Foi disponibilizado pela Embracom pro Atari 2600. Você fazia uma assinatura e comprava um pacote que vinha com cartucho, modem e uma lista bem extensa com detalhes de vários jogos. Era só ligar o cartucho e o telefone no modem, ligar pra Telegame e informar pro atendente o numero código do jogo que você queria e através do modem dava pra configurar a opção de REC, em questão de alguns minutos o jogo já fica disponível pra jogar. Aqui o pacote: 2.bp.blogspot.com/_SOQuqJA2OKI/SUD3sL_DoJI/AAAAAAAAAhE/WWLgMurw1cQ/s320/Telegame_by_Embracom_4.jpg E aqui a lista: meujoystick.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/tele2.jpg?w=768
@MatheusPratta
@MatheusPratta 7 жыл бұрын
Steam, ou mais especificamente, EA Access, lá nos 80's :)
@NinjaDormente
@NinjaDormente 6 жыл бұрын
Brasileiro é de outro mundo. A gente inventou a mídia digital.
@Morfeucomvoce
@Morfeucomvoce 5 жыл бұрын
Impressionante.
@BetItAllOnBlack
@BetItAllOnBlack 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing content Drew, you gotta be the first to bring this reality to light in such a clear format, as a Brazillian I am amazed by how good your research work was!
@murtafilipe
@murtafilipe 7 жыл бұрын
Então, se acham um absurdo o preço de um videogame no Brasil, imaginem outros eletrônicos menos populares para um público mais específico... No meu caso, que trabalho com ilustração digital, o ideal seria eu usar uma mesa digitalizadora para fazer meu trabalho, uma Cintiq 27HD da Wacom, que no USA custa U$ 2,500.00 aqui no Brasil ela é vendida por R$ 28,000.00 isso mesmo, você não leu errado 28 mil reais, o preço de um carro aqui no Brasil... Enquanto eu não posso comprar ou financiar nem um equipamento pra trabalho... Imagina se posso comprar um console de última geração... O máximo que posso fazer é ter um ótimo PC pra trabalho e também aproveitar pra jogar nele. Enquanto junto uma grana pra tentar investir no meu trabalho e poder comprar uma Cintiq.
@amandadaniela
@amandadaniela 7 жыл бұрын
Eu tava precisando dessa mesma mesa digitalizadora que você, e fui na inocência olhar os preços.... vei, eu quase caí da cadeira, é o preço de um rim!!
@castronator29
@castronator29 7 жыл бұрын
Tudo se pode arrumar companheiro. Eu moro na Espanha e muito felizmente te conseguiria uma kkkkk
@stoutlager6325
@stoutlager6325 7 жыл бұрын
Complex indeed. I had no idea about all the various strategies taken to bring in/produce playable games in an economy unfriendly to them.
@danbatalha
@danbatalha 7 жыл бұрын
There are some mistakes in the videos. When Andre from Jogabilidade says we have a Master System clone, he's wrong. We have a original licensed Master System produced by a brazilian company called TecToy. They were 100% licensed by Sega. And Gus Lanzeta said Dactar from Milmar was a licensed console, he's wrong too. And he's wrong when he says about the multigame cartridge, they were 100% bootleg stuff. Dactar was one of many Atari clones produced here (Dactar, Supergame, Dismac, and others). The first and only company that was authorized to produce Atari 2600 and distribute cartridges in Brazil was Polyvox. Just like TecToy with Master System, Polyvox produced Atari here and the console looked just like the american ones, but with the company's brand instead of Sega or Atari.
@TakeOverBG67
@TakeOverBG67 7 жыл бұрын
Danilo Batalha Mas aquele era o clone do master system, além do original, existiam clones como aquele.
@danbatalha
@danbatalha 7 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo Leoni eu nunca vi, e olha que já vi muita coisa. Se encontrar algum me mostra, caso contrário não acredito. Aquele da imagem até onde eu era um Master System 3 como muitos outros.
@archville82_99
@archville82_99 7 жыл бұрын
Presta atenção que vc vai ver que não tá escrito Master System no console, aquele é um clone do licenciado da TecToy. Abraço!
@danbatalha
@danbatalha 7 жыл бұрын
Clayton Poitevin No Master System 3, o escrito com o nome do console fica na tampa de slot de cartucho, que no caso do exibido no vídeo onde estava exposto na loja, se encontrava aberto pois tinha um cartucho inserido no console. Jogs no Google "Master Sustém 3" que você vai ver a imagem dele com a tampa do slot de cartucho fechada. Tenho 3 deste em casa, sei bem como é um. No mais, como eu já havia dito, o desafio continua: Me mostre um Master System clone BR não licenciado que eu acredito.
@ivanbuitrago6386
@ivanbuitrago6386 7 жыл бұрын
Danilo Batalha , pois e, tambem notei essas informacoes erradas, e so assistir o video do canal zero quatro midia sobre os consoles nos anos 80 que saberia sobre a historia como aconteceu de fato, tudo narrado por quem participou daquele mercado naquela epoca.
@EposVox
@EposVox 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Loved this.
@pwnmasteh
@pwnmasteh 7 жыл бұрын
Ok the last 25 seconds had me cracking up.
@VOXELOFICIAL
@VOXELOFICIAL 7 жыл бұрын
that was so brazilian it hurts
@wolfgangamadeus232
@wolfgangamadeus232 7 жыл бұрын
is that titanic song
@Tone1337s
@Tone1337s 7 жыл бұрын
E. Milis My heart will go on
@DeathBringer769
@DeathBringer769 7 жыл бұрын
The off-beat Titanic song, lmao...
@MrDannNamesake
@MrDannNamesake 7 жыл бұрын
You can hear someone saying. "Brazil is sinking!" in a reference to Titanic
@ClothMap
@ClothMap 7 жыл бұрын
For a deeper look at the history of games in Brazil, Red Bull's "Parallels" series by Pedro Falcão (in the white shirt at 15:16) is fantastic! www.redbull.com/int-en/the-history-of-video-games-in-brazil
@luizpaulo45
@luizpaulo45 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, is really difficult to me to find this link to show to english talking people, is a really well done series too.
@sharifhossen2078
@sharifhossen2078 7 жыл бұрын
May I be your friend
@gabrielreisdeoliveira6830
@gabrielreisdeoliveira6830 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Loved this piece of documentary: 2 things i would like to add: First: You guys have to understand that a video-game costing 2000~4000 R$ and just convert this to the US$ currency isn't too accurate. Because you are not paying 500$ dollars on a 400$ dollar imported console. It sounds fair if was like that, right? I'm not an economist but to put it simply, the minimum monthly wage in Brasil is R$972,00 to this date. This is EXTREMELY expensive, much more than it looks. In a country like here with all this social discrepancy, this is a hobby that many people can't simple afford it. Just to put in perspective, 2000 is like 4 months of grocery for a 4 family people or 4 months of rent in a suburb apartment in the city i live (Belo Horizonte-MG). With games on launch going for R$279,00, this is a quarter of a minimum wage sallary. Second: As long as the gray market goes, Brazilians have the fame for their resourcefulness, right? Here we had the "Locadoras" or roughly translating the rental places. In the 90's and 00's it was to expensive to buy the cartridges and you didn't had as many options as you have today, like buy, sell or trade used games. So Film rentals would also offer a long range of games to rent. But what makes this really interesting was that the people who used to rent games also put video-games for rent on their stores. So you could go to this store where they would have a bunch of video-games hooked on tvs and you could pay to play games there paying by the hour. This was as comon as arcades in Brasil. You should talk to @izzynobre, a brazillian vlogger who is erradicated in canada and a huge oldscholl games nerd. He has awesome histories about the locadoras, and can provide some cool insight. This doc is awesome, but sadly is hard to even scratch the surface of this subject here, due the so many nuances. Video-games are so expensive here due to our high import taxes, and in a point in our history, the government put video-games in the same category as slot-machines, so they could be classified as gambling machines and be taxed in 70% in their value, if i'm not mistaken. I"m looking forward to the next episode! (sorry bout the grammar, learned to speak english with the video-games!)
@AllyssonRoberth
@AllyssonRoberth 7 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and I started my history with games playing the Atary and never stoped. I was aware at the time that things here were a little different from abroad, but when I see this today and from the perspective of an outsider it is amazing to say the least. Excellent vídeo! I loved it!
@BRMidas
@BRMidas 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job! But as you said, you didn't scratch the surface. Starting with the PS1 the black game market really began, and 99% of the games sold were pirated.
@travisj1907
@travisj1907 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a feature on playing those crazy down-converted games. SNES Guitar Hero is mindblowing.
@mikebart70
@mikebart70 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making and sharing this video! I'm from Brasil and I had no idea of all those cool information because i never lived in São Paulo. Still missing those days back in the 80's, when we used to rent Master System and Nintendo games.
@scp049c2
@scp049c2 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 50% Brazillian but I never lived there, this sh*t is hella interesting
@TheFinalMapler
@TheFinalMapler 6 жыл бұрын
My whole family is from Brazil, and I remember living there for short amounts of time as a kid and wondering why all things related to games where so expensive or just damn near impossible to find. This is so enlightening and informative +1 sub from me!!! saúde!!!
@iLadiir
@iLadiir 7 жыл бұрын
Gente como o Gus soa mais amigável em inglês né?
@Iuripiotrowskidarosa
@Iuripiotrowskidarosa 7 жыл бұрын
Ele tem canal?
@CureOptimismForHumanity
@CureOptimismForHumanity 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment section I've read on KZbin, especially considering this video has 400,000 views and is about video games. Lot of interesting input and respectful discussions that are fun to read.
@ryanhall1215
@ryanhall1215 7 жыл бұрын
Those 18 minutes flew by. Very interesting video.
@eareboucas
@eareboucas 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming over to Brazil to produce such an entertaining and informative video, Drew! Cheers!
@NecroDetonadosBR
@NecroDetonadosBR 7 жыл бұрын
My option for gaming in BRazil is Steam. Steam is the only possible place where you feel like paying a fair price for games, not even mentioning the Steam Sales. And even this popular running online market wants to be taxed by socialist forces where people deny, but is present and strong. The ridiculously inflated state is one big point of why Nintendo officialy left Brazil's market, they were paying huge taxes, not selling much, because a single portable cartridge would be R$200,00-299,00, aprox U$60,00, which pretty much is one forth of Brazil's minimum wage... Brazilian taxes are fucked up.
@AlyphRat
@AlyphRat 7 жыл бұрын
Uh oh, you said "Socialist Forces". Now people will be saying: "It wasn't Socialist Influence!"
@romulorodrigues2433
@romulorodrigues2433 7 жыл бұрын
exatamente
@ocozinheiro
@ocozinheiro 7 жыл бұрын
Steam + PC
@iannzinn
@iannzinn 7 жыл бұрын
A reportagem é sobre jogos antigos, GÊNIO
@romulorodrigues2433
@romulorodrigues2433 7 жыл бұрын
Value is not created from labor, it's created by people's interest / need of a product / service.
@leoaucar
@leoaucar 7 жыл бұрын
From Brazil, loved this video. It both portrays very well the reality of our video game market, but also is masterfully done a as short doc.
@karlfrentz
@karlfrentz 7 жыл бұрын
Drew this was the best video yet. Keep it up duder!
@StaterDrums
@StaterDrums 7 жыл бұрын
This was delightful! Thanks Drew!
@ihatecalamares
@ihatecalamares 7 жыл бұрын
@3:05 he just described the core gaming scene in most of the 3rd world countries. Piracy still drives hardware sales to this day.
@PauloCezar85
@PauloCezar85 7 жыл бұрын
Great job! This remind me when I was young. I used to have a Phantom System, a copy of NES.
@maman89
@maman89 4 жыл бұрын
Brazilian sure love their KOF. This is a great video BTW. Things are similar here in SEA.
@Yomachaser
@Yomachaser 7 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of the best videos I've seen on youtube. Seriously good production guys!
@bulletbelt97
@bulletbelt97 7 жыл бұрын
please come to Brazil
@MrRoccoMarchegiano
@MrRoccoMarchegiano 7 жыл бұрын
The best videos, I mean the very best videos, are the ones that catch you by surprise. This was one of those for me. Excellent work bud.
@Nonexistanthuman
@Nonexistanthuman 7 жыл бұрын
i subbed just cause of this video, one of my friends is from brazil. Hes known one of my other friends for about 10 years and he never used a microphone. It was only like 2/3 months ago he FINALLY USED a mic. We had theories he was a lil kid thinking it was cool to have north american buddies, we thought it was one of my friends gf's from another country that they been talking forever to each other. BUT NOPE his explanation was " I dont wanna look like Michael Jackson " LOL i was ded after If it wasnt for my buddy EEE i would have never watched this. I like to learn about Brazilian culture cause of him now
@Fupicat
@Fupicat 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Brazilian hobbyist game developer and I loved this video so much! It was on point about everything! Definitely subscribing.
@FourStoryGamer
@FourStoryGamer 7 жыл бұрын
Easily the best video yet.
@Croot_Music
@Croot_Music 7 жыл бұрын
I remember going to Brazil when I was younger and being amazed by how expensive video game consoles were. They were seriously like three times the price or more of a regular console
@MarioBigode
@MarioBigode 7 жыл бұрын
*Corél! Olha o Corééééél!!!*
@murtafilipe
@murtafilipe 7 жыл бұрын
Coréllll 0:58
@FelipeOliveira34910
@FelipeOliveira34910 7 жыл бұрын
quase me mijei aqui. Lembre dos malucos em frente ao edifício central na rio branco
@CaioPBD
@CaioPBD 7 жыл бұрын
Felipe Oliveira esses caras estão lá até hoje kkkkk possuem desde photoshop 100% atualizado até filmes adultos
@gabronson
@gabronson 7 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@lDEFACT0l
@lDEFACT0l 7 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the type of video game content I want to see. Love to see how video games have impacted the world in different ways and places.
@Syntax.error.
@Syntax.error. 7 жыл бұрын
This has a huge vice feeling. I wonder how long before you are bought by Amazon or similar :)
@subparSamaritan
@subparSamaritan 7 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work!! I've always wanted to know about the Brazilian games' market; this was an excellent primer. Cloth Map is absolutely killing it!
@ladambell
@ladambell 7 жыл бұрын
12:09 What's up, you Cool Baby?
@Roxfox
@Roxfox 7 жыл бұрын
Whoa
@bulletbelt97
@bulletbelt97 7 жыл бұрын
i’m confused. I get that you’re referencing MBMBAM but what does that have to do with the video?
@starlrd3543
@starlrd3543 7 жыл бұрын
the ingenuity to do the things the people do here makes my day when i see it
@DiegoT
@DiegoT 7 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the Jogabilidade fans!
@the_spkr
@the_spkr 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video guys, great job! So much nostalgia for a brazilian dude in his thirties :) Found the video randomly through reddit, now you got my sub.
@CakeMusume
@CakeMusume 7 жыл бұрын
Jogabilidade fan here, just subscribed :)
@thevenin26
@thevenin26 7 жыл бұрын
I did not want this video to end. So interesting to see how it compares to the games I had in the U.S.
@cilonrs
@cilonrs 7 жыл бұрын
SNES mini was released on Brazil at like U$ 300, because Brazil, of course
@zaferckrk1445
@zaferckrk1445 7 жыл бұрын
Same in Turkey
@CastlevaniaDXC
@CastlevaniaDXC 6 жыл бұрын
What the hell? I bought like 3 and they are cheap over here
@TheZenytram
@TheZenytram 6 жыл бұрын
C de Cilêncio this is called Brazil Factor, the same that put ps4 to 1200$ in its launch
@cilonrs
@cilonrs 6 жыл бұрын
Today, 02/03/18, average price of SNES Mini on Brazil is 310.40 US
@phil_matic
@phil_matic 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I come back to watch this video at least once a month. I can't get enough of it.
@Subiromba
@Subiromba 7 жыл бұрын
I feel the need to point two things: when at 4:15 he says "Turbo Game around here, NES clone that runs only the smaller japanese cartridge", he's wrong. The CCE Turbo Game was one of the few NES clones able to run both cartridges, the japanese and the american, without the need of an adapter. It had both the slots at the top. And at 6:03, when he talks about the Dactar, he didn't mention the same Atari 2600 model made in the US was licensed and made in Brazil by a company named Polyvox, and it was WAY more successful than the Dactar. You can see it in the box right at 12:40.
@riihpeter
@riihpeter 7 жыл бұрын
Essa versão que ele mostrou era a primeira versão do Turbo Game, a segunda versão (que foi a que eu tive) já tinha os 2 slots e saiu depois.
@Subiromba
@Subiromba 7 жыл бұрын
Não, o clone de NES CCE que só aceitava cartucho japones era o VG-8000, que tinha o logo vermelho e se chama TOP GAME. Essa versão que ele está mostrando é o VG-9000T, a última que saiu. Você pode ver o "Double System" do lado do logo e a ranhura da tampinha que deslizava sobre os slots. Na verdade foram produzidos muito pouco do VG-8000, a maioria absoluta dos turbo games era o VG-9000 e o VG-9000T, e ambos eram dual slot.
@LucasCunhaRocha
@LucasCunhaRocha 6 жыл бұрын
Eu tinha um desses e lembro que aceitava diferentes cartuchos.
@campanhaxvpb
@campanhaxvpb 7 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and i loved the video at all, our game market is so complex but in the same time is unic, is so great to see that people over the world are interessing on. Keep up the good work Guys!!
@paolol.110
@paolol.110 4 жыл бұрын
The games that Gus mentioned on the Mega Drive 4 are direct ports of EA's mobile games, not demakes for the Mega Drive/Genesis. I assume that the Mega Drive 4 is an ARM-based system-on-a-chip console. Basically, the Mega Drive games are done by an emulator (a proprietary Mega Drive emulator by TecToy, which it has sound/graphics anomalies), while the TMSS boot message, system loading screens, games list, ports of EA's (Java) mobile games, and the Guitar Idol game are directly executed by the ARM processor. The version of Need For Speed ProStreet that he mentioned is based on the Java 3D version. The Genesis is impossible to do this, but if it's a 32X games, it would work, but sacrifices have to made (less texture mapping and polygons).
@Kyle-fy9kt
@Kyle-fy9kt 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video, Drew. Can't wait to see the rest of the Brazil pieces.
@TheGunmanChannel
@TheGunmanChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@andreikeda
@andreikeda 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a big-time​ gamer born and raised in São Paulo and I really enjoyed​ this video, awesome stuff.
@Samst0n
@Samst0n 7 жыл бұрын
That bootleg all star was great
@LucasCech
@LucasCech 7 жыл бұрын
One more brazilian fan here, amazing video man, its funny seeing surprise reactions to shit that was natural for the market here.
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