Ontario nurses are now leaving Canada to work in U.S. hospitals

[@ernieyick5318]

I left Alberta in 1995 as a Rn as a traveling nurse and finally settled in the San Francisco area as a RN working in icu/er. Wages so much better here, also patient ratios here. No shift work either. You work either straight days or nights. Wages start out at 45-95 a hour us dollars . Get your TN visa to work in usa. Alot of md's are down here in the states from Canada also. Why is this, it is all about the money and benefits no brainer.

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

How about the Social life in USA much better than Canada,

[@harjapsinghkahlon1660]

So u just keep extending ur tn visa ?

[@Baaliwood]

It's called public vs private Healthcare.... Canadians are morons that think our Healthcare system is great because it's free.

[@joshfrench5858]

So the brass tax is they don’t care about level of care for people they just want more money. And why do you think there is a better patient ratio?

[@pankajjoshi2032]

Anything for LPNs? Thank you.

[@michellequinsey710]

This is exactly what is happening. I am an ICU nurse now for 11 years. I am seeing new nurses leaving within a year. This is why recruitment is not the solution, retention is the solution.

[@worldphenomena8312]

I am from Malaysia, those private hospitals in Malaysia are doing a very smart job in maintaining the nurses manpower. They provide sponsorship to Diploma or Degree students who study nursing, coming with a 5-10 years of bonding period which is crazy long. Those passionate students who wish to study nursing choose to take the sponsorship because it covers all your tuition fee and giving you an amount of living expenses per months for your 3 or 4 years course. Normally the Diploma students have a 5 years bonding while Degree students have a 8 years bonding. But the problem comes when they realize what is it to work in as a hospital settings especially private hospital,which the patients and the management expect the nurses to give their top-notch service. When a nurse receive a complain from patients or patients family, nurses are the only want to be blamed because patients in private hospital are treated more like customers than patients. That's why there are nurses feel themselves underappreciated, feeling like a high class servant to the patients and hospital rather than a professional nurse who went through all qualified education to be a nurse. Nurses in my country and I can said in many other Asia Countries are overworked and underpaid. Many choose to go overseas once their bonding ends, because even the staffing problems are also exists in other countries like US, Australia, Saudi Arabia , Canada, Singapore and New Zealand, at least they can earn more due to currency exchange. Nurse shortages is now a big problem to modern society, medical system need a reform. No one will willing to work a noble job but don't get the wage and Respect you deserve. As a conclusion, most nurses nowadays who choose to stay in medical field are BURNING OUT. People with gumption who want work life balance will eventually quit if the problems are deteriorating.

[@joshfrench5858]

Why did they become a nurse in the first place then? They knew what the job required. They knew what the pay was before they started. And I work in a hospital and there is a fair amount of cell phone/socialization that has nothing to do with work all the time. I’ve never worked in a job where the first hour of work is reserved for talking about kids, vacation, schedule and eating and checking text messages and tik tok.

[@worldphenomena8312]

@@joshfrench5858 The reasons most of the students in nursing course choose to become a nurse is because they think being a nurse can help those in need. But after getting into the workforce, there are just too much too bear with . Overworked to the core , no time for themselves and family at all and the extreme stress dealing with life every day. The most important question is , should overworked among the nurses continued to be considered as a norm. And if nurses come out to strike for the better workload and pay that they deserve, should they be ready to be demoralized by some ppl from the society, asking them why they choose nursing if they don't accept the problems they face. I respect your opinion and you said that you are working in a hospital too. Then I assume you are not saying this due to the stereotype you gain from news. If the nurses in the hospital you worked at is acting like what you said, do you think the nurses worldwide also are that " lucky" to have time to act like that? Do you think the nurses shortages are just exaggerated? And do you think the nurses strike are just a show from the nurses for them to get better pay which is not match with their profession? Is overworked and underpaid really just an excuse from the many nurses? Lastly, are you commenting based on your own discrimination towards the nurses you met at your hospital?

[@sgm4545]

@@joshfrench5858we dont all know. People told me that we make 40 per hr. But when i started i was at 22. It take 12 yr to get to 40. Its really sad that you have to wait that long to be able to buy a house for exemple. Dont forget how hard it is to become a nurse. Its a lot of studies and a hard liscence to get. You can start a class with 200 mates. At the end of the program. There is 30 left and 15 actually pass the exam. Just to end up being paid 22$ per hour. Do not forget that when you are dying it’s a nurse that is by your side. I was going to leave quebec for ontario but it look like the problem is the same.

[@CD_RN_Independent_Voter]

@@joshfrench5858What is your role in the hospital? I sense a small-minded anti-nurse bias.

[@Bayer228]

There will be shortage of Nurses wherever you go..It all goes down to how well the management treat their nurses!

[@navheer4916]

I’m also leaving to the states and so are many of my nurse friends. Canada has failed us

[@mssimone7147]

I agree. I have a bachelors and I can't believe how hard it is to find a decent job because I have less than three years of RN work. I was a PN for 10 years. It's unreal how much money it is to even get a education here and there are very little opportunities.

[@Helfirehydratrans]

If my parents can afford to move to America, they probably would do it because my mom might lose her job as a nurse and lose her 25 years of seniority And forced to start back at the bottom at a different hospital That is one of the reasons why nurses and doctors are leaving because they have literally no employment protection rights They can fire you for a little reason, and only give you six weeks of severance And if you start working on a different hospital, all those years you’ve spent up building a reputation mean nothing

[@TheOverThinker92]

there are also travel nursing opportunities within Canada. You go to different provinces/cities every 4-5 months depending on the contract. Some specialty nurses make $90 an hour!! not only the pay is higher but you don't pay rent. Sometimes you'll get a nice condo for the entire duration of the contract and don't pay for rent.

[@AnnoyedAtEverything]

RN here and I am leaving this year too. My unit is already severely short staffed and I feel bad but I have my own family to take care of too. I’m sorry Toronto.

[@Helfirehydratrans]

My mom’s unit is short staffed. They recently just said that they are closing inpatient beds. Emergency room is rarely open. And my mom learned that she might lose her job and 25 years of seniority just because the medical industry is not have enough money to go around so they have to fire nurses that get paid too much Because they’ve been working there for too long The whole plan that I’ve been seen in the medical industry is fire nurses that have been there for years and have gotten multiple pay raises so you can hire fresh out of med school students that you can pay less and you can tell them what to do without them, rocking the boat Because we all know fresh out of med school people are too afraid to lose their job then to rock the boat they’re not going to stand up against management when they’re trying to screw them over by giving them over worked or reducing their overtime pay because that’s one thing they tried to do is they tried to reduce my mom’s overtime pay and because she knew what they were doing. She called them out and stop them. Everybody else didn’t if she wasn’t in that union meeting. They probably would’ve lost their right to overtime pay. They were probably would’ve lost a significant number of overtime But for some reason, doctors are still paid out The Y zoo. Meanwhile, nurses are literally struggling to provide for their families with two incomes. It’s crazy we’re living in a world where nursing is considered expendable

[@chanisebailey2790]

Did you work at sick kids or Mount sini 😮

[@gailegormley5744]

30 years ago nurses were leaving Toronto and going to the U.S.

[@scholarlyanalyst7700]

What's your point, exactly? I think I know what your point is. I just want to hear you say in your own words?

[@AndreaWhy-ky3zj]

Yes and doctors, brain drain to the States is nothing new except this seems worse.

[@azekairi1]

Lots more coming. We left Toronto for San Francisco. Easier to be an RN in the US than Canada, pay is good and full time position.

[@ChrisAnokwuru]

I'm a medical doctor I live in Chicago

[@adudeczka]

Lots of nurses are also migrating within Canada - moving to provinces that pay better. The east coast and QC have some of the lowest nursing wages. AB and the territories pay a lot more and offer northern allowances if you live in certain zones.

[@ivannightly1919]

about 15yrs ago all the nurses I knew left one by one to Florida due to the horrible schedule shifting and over work just due to bad management according to them they love Florida and the life style very sad

[@nursesida]

Welcome to the U.S- travel nurses are making bank right now. We get our asses kicked, but at least we are being compensated.

[@joshfrench5858]

So it’s not about the care provided it’s just about the money then. I

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Laura , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Elizabeth , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@pankajjoshi2032]

Anything for LPN's. Thank you.

[@ChrisAnokwuru]

I was in United States 2 months ago

[@michellequinsey710]

We didn't even get the "5000 bonus". It was taxed and everyone on my unit only got about 1100-1400.

[@NurseMoneyGrowWealth]

If you qualified for the full retention bonus $5000 split into 2 payments of $2500- payment 1 was $1810.50 (June) and payment 2 (Sept) was $2046.45 after taxes .

[@accountforwastingtime]

It's taxed in the U.S. too and not always as good as advertised. You also often have to stay for a certain amount of time to get it- and the jobs paying high bonuses are often the worst. There's a reason bonuses are that high and they're so desperate for people.

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Michelle Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@michellequinsey710]

@@morissalan3397 Thank you! I hope you are as well :)

[@morissalan3397]

@@michellequinsey710 Yes thanks for asking, Where are you from if you wouldn’t mind me asking

[@ceeedwards8453]

The US is short on nurses and teachers..it'll only get worse...service careers are not valued.

[@dumdumbrown4225]

It’s the same in Australia and the Uk, I think. Australia’s parliamentary ministers give various Australian Government departments instructions to purposely throttle visa processing plus various regulatory agencies have stupidly biased examiners and examination processes. My girlfriend speaks excellent English, is a highly qualified ICU registered nurse(RN), holds permanent residency in Australia and has 16 years of experience at internationally renowned hospitals in two other countries - many of her colleagues back there were Aussies, Brits and Americans. The RPAH in Sydney and Monash hospital in Melbourne were amongst the hospitals already chasing her to join them while she was preparing for her AHPRA registration - they loved her and valued her experience. To complete her RN registration here, she’s taken the AHPRA’s Au$4000 OSCE exam twice in the last 10 months and twice those swine failed her - it’s not sensible, and there is no logical explanation for their evaluation - unacceptable. Fortunately for us, she is licensed to work in the UK & the US, and I already hold PR (green card) in the USA. We leave for the US in 3 months. For context I’m Aussie, I have a stable career and comfortably earn over Au$100,000. But why stay in Australia when I can comfortably earn the same in USD while paying less taxes plus the USA gladly accepts her experience and qualifications? We’re not the only skilled couple leaving Australia - and there is a reason over 1 million Aussies prefer to live and earn overseas …sad, but true

[@ABSG7]

If Canadian nurses are coming to the US for better work, Canada must be hell

[@vallane2763]

Ya right everything in Canada is he'll Bec of trudope

[@jakearsenta2144]

It is.

[@menguardingtheirownwallets6791]

Canada is Hell. 6 nurses working 18 hour shifts in the ICU, which normally has a staff of 28 nurses working there. Patients wait 30 hours in Emergency before anyone is available to see them.

[@accountforwastingtime]

@@menguardingtheirownwallets679170% of low-urgent wait times in Canada have patients leaving within 4 hours, with an average max length of 8 hours. But sure, come to America where you will either 1) still wait that long and pay thousands out of pocket even with insurance or 2) the average person won't ever go to the ER in the first place because they can't afford it, even if their health is on the line. And you still have a huge, huge shortage of nurses on staff. Why do you think they offer the bonuses? Then figure in the exchange difference for your pay, higher cost of health care, likely higher rent just to live in an average ole American suburb with shitty schools...it's not what people assume it is. There's a reason America has such a nursing shortage & so many Americans are trying to leave the country.

[@Helfirehydratrans]

Yeah, not to mention that Doug Ford is basically destroying any nursing seniority whatsoever and trying to get rid of all the good nurses so we can replace them with fresh out of med school that get paid less Because my mom is possibly going to lose her job at the hospital she works at and have to work somewhere else and lose 25 years of seniority She spent 25 years of her life working at that hospital and they decided instead of letting her keep her seniority and sending her to a different hospital. They’re going to just fire her and force her to find work somewhere else And start from the bottom And she only get five months notice with six weeks pay One week of pay for every year she worked there with a maximum of six weeks If it was actually not a Maximo six weeks, she would have 25 weeks of paid severance But because they decided six weeks is more than enough apparently They just decides 25 years of seniority means nothing

[@claudiaeyre2461]

How true; the comment about the importance of retention of professional staff nurses. Plus pay nurses what their physical/ scientific/ pharmacological/ highly technical monitoring skills and counselling distressed people skills - are truly worth. And have mentorship oriented senior nurses on the Unit, to work with the influx of our important new nurses! And do not throw new staff including new grads into the fire, when they start! Plus all Nurses, all nurses should work front line versus bloating the ranks with more and more Administrators. Seeing the tragedy unfold with our system being destroyed makes one exceptionally sad, angry, and shocked all at once! Still , we get up, put or clothes and shoes on and go to work. I must be an old nurse, trained under a different model of vocational Nursing.

[@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391]

Nurses get paid double (just and/new to the field). To triple and then some for an experienced nurse in the United States.

[@branmuffin79]

Been doing that for years. Nothing new

[@Anne.411]

She is quitting her low paying nursing job to get a high paying one. Alrighty then

[@7auros]

anyone would and should do the same, we deserve better

[@kimpeter7934]

For liberal Americans who thinks Canadian health care is so great. Lots of Canadian nurses left Canada to work in the US.

[@2magma.command]

It's not that Canada's health care is so great it's that AT LEAST canadians get healthcare. The USA along with third world countries such as South Africa and syria do not get universal healthcare. And this nurse is not leaving for love of the USA..canada is a much safer country to live in. She is simply doing what illegal immigrants do ..want more money.

[@kimpeter7934]

@@2magma.command I know plenty of white Canadian nurse working in the USA. The US doesn’t have universal health but hospital aren’t turning away sick people. You must be a Trudoe fanboy.

[@2magma.command]

@@kimpeter7934 the purpose of healthcare is not just hospital admission it is also to keep someone from going bankrupt. You must be a trump cult member.

[@2magma.command]

@@dudebros6122 The USA healthcare system is not only expensive its NOT THAT GREAT either. Yet "AT LEAST" Canada AND MEXICO get UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE. It's typical of right wingers to confuse the matter with LONG WINDED responses, I was expecting someone like you to respond.

[@scholarlyanalyst7700]

@@kimpeter7934 Most of what Hoop said is, in fact, correct! All Canadian citizens are covered. And Canada is a MUCH safer place to live! You DO realize there are American healthcare professionals (including doctors!) who move to Canada, as well. Correct?

[@ChrisAnokwuru]

We need like 15 people in our hospital to issue licence

[@medinahusen9089]

The USA need to establish more nursing schools especially California where there is shortage but the schooling system is too comparative

[@cynthiagonzalez658]

Comparative??!!

[@954dreamer1]

There are not enough instructors to make that happen. Nursing education doesn’t pay much and requires a doctorate and endless writing about nursing theories. You can make more as a staff nurse

[@canamforlife2275]

So getting your moneys worth and have hope to own your own life and not be taxed to death like scamcanada our family is planning on leaving asap to usa just to pay 25% less taxes get our life back

[@accountforwastingtime]

Have fun finding out the federal tax brackets aren't much different for many incomes, what you "saved" you will spend on $$$$ health care, and states often have taxes too, some higher than the provinces. Any savings you bring from Canada will be worth "less" in USD with the exchange rate, and you'll pay out the ass in rent just to live in an average ole US suburb with shitty schools.

[@DividendFiend]

@ViolinChick Or any western value country for that matter, same problem different location.

[@joshfrench5858]

Bye 👋

[@donnahill2178]

Is she working for an Agency? Travel agency nurses get paid more.

[@FrankBoakyeYiadom-nf4qd]

How do I join

[@sarahchan5604]

I have a relative who worked as a RN in Texas full time, she was promised medical insurance for her by that employment (hospital), though she never used it as she was young and no accident, after she worked for one plus year,by the time she was thinking to leave and go to Ontario,the human resource called her, said ,'since you did not fill in the application form of medical insurance properly,we had not bought any medical insurance for you yet, please fill in the form now.'

[@tabernathy0428]

That doesn't even make sense. Insurance premiums come out of your paycheck every 2 weeks. You would see the deduction. Up until 2019 it was mandatory to have medical insurance or there was a huge penalty. Trump repealed the mandate in 2019. Why do Canadians come to the internet and make up ridiculous stories?

[@danielromanov8166]

Wow what luck that she didn’t get sick while working in Texas. How’s the pay in Texas and quality of life of nurse?

[@tabernathy0428]

@@danielromanov8166 She made that story up. It was illegal to not carry insurance up until just 2019. There was a huge penalty for not having insurance. When you file taxes they can see if the insurance premiums came out of your paycheck or not. Nobody accidentally goes without insurance especially when they can see the deductions from their paycheck.

[@thepassionfruitdiariessuzi6978]

Nurses have been leaving Ontario since the 90s. There’s never full time opportunities and pay scale is ridiculous

[@kristah7223]

How about receive international nursing students with 50% discounted tuition fees for around 3-5 years and let them pay back the rest once they become a nurse in Canada, but they must work in Canada at least 10 years.

[@Helfirehydratrans]

Maybe it’s because a lot of them are being fired because of budget cut reasons, and they lose their years a seniority My mom might lose her 25 years of seniority and have to work in a different hospital because of how things are going and how is the hospital she works at has been managed. She’s always been working at short staffed. Emergency room is rarely open because they don’t have the staff to handle it. And the government is trying to fire good nurses just to pay them less and give them less than Yardy, so you can keep them out of union meetings Because my mom has been working for 25 years at the same hospital, she goes to union meeting. She has power and say, but if she goes to a different hospital she starting at the bottom in those 25 years she spent mean nothing that is why doctors or nurses are going to America because Our entire healthcare industry is being steam rolled

[@nm-cj9rb]

I'm sure it's frustrating for health care providers but it's even more hard for the patients, so many peoplw in emergency rooms wait upwards of 10-12 hours some that have multiple fractures, pelvis broken , wrist broken to even get basic medical attention. This system is collapsing, no where in the world does this happen apart from Canada , at that point what use is the free healthcare if you cannot even access it or struggle to get it. You have to literally beg a doctor to refer you , so much self advocating, until you can finally see a specialist then referral takes months and months by then disease or illness progresses.

[@disa7965]

Smart decision Emily !

[@AvageeEspinosa]

Same my cousin told me US has better compensation compared to Canada interns of medical professionals they are compensated.

[@julieorourke9897]

Just gave up my RN licence, nurses in Ontario making less over the years with cost of living, nurses have no leverage as nurses can’t go on strike like teachers. So taken for granted. On my last shift I had a 20minute break in my 8h shift. Wasn’t even recognized that it was my last shift after 38yrs. Did get a $150 gift card after all those years of service.

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Julie , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@mssimone7147]

You are valued ❤ I am sorry that you felt underappreciated. I will say the seeds you planted over the years will be rewarded. It'll just be beyond what you expected ❤

[@lightbringer851]

My co worker left to IOWA last month everyone else thinking of earning US dollars

[@don-cw1yz]

Just maybe it has something to do with money? Some Ontario nurses have not received a raise for 10 years. All the civil service money goes to raises for the teachers. The nurses and people working with autistic and mentally challenged people are underpaid. Frankly, the teachers are overpaid and got used to the former Ontario Liberal Party giving them anything they wanted. Ever notice the nurses and those working with the mentally challenged and old folks home workers don't go on strike but the teachers in Ontario are always on strike?

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Teachers have had wages frozen too, for years and they typically have 30% of students with various special needs from behaviour issues to autism spectrum, to ADHD and on and on. It is not easy and many new teachers leave.

[@don-cw1yz]

@@OceanFrontVilla3 Not in Ontario they are always on strike. Then they get more money. I understand it would be a challenging issue with autistic kids in a classroom.

[@phoebewang4199]

IRCC welcomes refugees but not for our International nurses so we plan to leave Canada. All the application process took long long long period until you loose your currently status. There are no way to communicate with RICC.

[@cynthiagonzalez658]

Don't worry!! Lots of Philippine nurses available!!!

[@vallane2763]

Savage

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Cynthia , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@MAC9949]

Who will then be overworked and will choose to either go to the US too or back to the Phillipines

[@MAC9949]

@@patrick-ip4yf Canada is not the US. In Canada, you get paid well then things like rent, groceries and phone bills ensure you remain with nothing. That is why local nurses are leaving.

[@AndreaWhy-ky3zj]

If nurses are leaving bc of being short staff the solution is more nursing schools.

[@KostaMitrovic-rr8wk]

Sister sister, you haven't seen the Serbian system, you would cry and beg for help to get you out of there...

[@Free4Ever-grace]

Oh good, alot of our nurses here in the U.S. are quitting too. There's a huge shortage of nurses here that's why they're getting paid $50 to $75/hr so then the hospitals can keep the nurses and pass that extra money being paid out on to the patients bills to make up for it!!

[@nm-cj9rb]

Honestly how slow the system ppl by that I mean patients can literally die. In that case it's little comfort it's free. The lines up are insane, doctors office walk-ins so often if even you at 11am they will tell you they are booked for whole day! The backlog is insane. Go to hospital wait times are over 12 hours, even for multiple fractures. It is absolutely insane. No we're in a developed country would you see this.

[@nm-cj9rb]

Ps I am speaking from my own experience, after months of pain I'm finally going to see a general surgeon, referral process took months, and that too after months of self advocating, then having to leave multiple voicemails at there office so I can get a date to see him. Even there receptionist was too busy to pick the phone.This is absolutely ridiculous. No where in the world do you have to chase this much to get an appointment . I would have much rather paid the hundreds of dollars and at least have some peace of mind and see a doctor right away. Then be in pain for months and months not even knowing what is causing it and being worried all the time. This system is broken.

[@adelaideo7417]

Oh my god, I worked with that girl!

[@64Magician64]

Did no one see this coming when they were firing and laying off unvaccinated nurses? Those nurses were begging to keep their jobs. It's like the government was trying to make things worse.

[@tomackwilliams991]

It obviously was and what else makes you think about covid? It was gain of function they let this virus out and monkey pox on purpose. What the purpose not totally sure 🤔

[@joshfrench5858]

No one was fired.

[@64Magician64]

@@joshfrench5858 Are you 100% sure about that? Then why do I know some people who were fired? Were they lying to me?

[@64Magician64]

@@joshfrench5858 Plus fired wasn't my main point. You want to argue about laid off or fired? This is your issue Josh? Either way the nurse doesn't have any money coming in to pay the bills and is under stress to figure something out.

[@joshfrench5858]

@@64Magician64 because they are lying. Check the nurses union. If you refused the vaccine you have a education thing you had to sit through about vaccines. If they still refused they signed a waiver saying they don’t get any benefits if they get Covid ie payed leave. Like I said check the nurses union.

[@immigrations23]

The news is very good

[@Blueweek1]

i blame trudeau

[@angela32615]

Not Trudeau, blame Ford!!

[@Blueweek1]

@@angela32615 its happening in all provinces. truduea is the one in charge

[@angela32615]

Ford has a lot of power in Ontario, he can influence policy and laws in healthcare, but he doesn't. Look what Ford is doing with CUPE, making it illegal to strike and violating our basic freedom of rights. He has more power than you think and I'm sure healthcare is not his priority. Hiring more nurses is NOT the answer. That's a temporary solution to a permanent problem. The issue isn't recruitment it's retention. Nurses are quitting because they are overworked and understaffed. They purposely are not staffing enough nurses in a given unit at a time...this is understaffing the unit, shiftwork and scheduling need a complete overhaul, not because there are not enough nurses to work. Nurses are burned out....policies need to change period. Conditions in Ontario hospitals are under Ford's jurisdiction.

[@Blueweek1]

@@angela32615 the public health care system is collapsing. there's no more money to give. the federal government is wrecking our economy. don't be surprised if we get private health care

[@angela32615]

@@Blueweek1 Laws governing education and hospitals are within the domain of the Provincial government NOT the Federal. For Ontario, it's Ford that has the power to make the necessary changes to laws and policies. If you need help understanding this, look up the responsibilities of the Provincial and Federal government and you will see. While I do agree that Trudeau hasn't always spent money wisely, neither really has Ford. It's the same anywhere, they do what suits their own personal gain. It's sad really. And yes to answer your question I'm well aware of talks about privatizing both healthcare and education.

[@sosa5880]

3:50

[@ChrisAnokwuru]

How ar you doing

[@sandeepshresthasir]

They both look identical

[@MimsicalRenegade]

With Socialist Healthcare, You Get What You Pay For.

[@Free4Ever-grace]

With a Capitalist healthcare system that $50 to $75/hr paid out to the nurses gets past on in the form of the patients bill. It's NOT ALWAYS YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I've seen nurses not worth $15/hr but because there's a nurse shortage hospital's will hire anyone.

[@MimsicalRenegade]

@@Free4Ever-grace Move To China , I Hear It Is A Socialist Utopia Built On Community.

[@Free4Ever-grace]

@@MimsicalRenegade You telling me to leave the U.S. and go to China is a form of communism. Communist all think alike and don't like anyone who believes differently than they do.

[@MimsicalRenegade]

@@Free4Ever-grace Why Does A Yankee Care About Ontario Health Care? You People Are All Alike , You Love Giving Opinions On Things You Don't Understand.

[@MimsicalRenegade]

@@Free4Ever-grace Epique Faire Un Bide Au Revoir

[@Helfirehydratrans]

The reason why a lot of nurses are leaving is because the government is focussing on getting rid of old nurses so they can have new nurses that don’t shake the boat because they’re tired of the nurses that are currently working, speaking up and demanding fair pay Because as far as I know, my mom has demanded fair pay and she hasn’t got it. She might lose her job and lose 25 years of seniority simply because the hospital is closing and if she works at a different hospital she has to start at the beginning she spent 25 years building up seniority to have power in union meetings, and now that powers been taken away from her because she won’t be allowed to have opinions anymore. She won’t be able to go in the union meetings and call them out when they try to pull the wool over there eyes and screw them over. Because this is one thing that really pisses me off, that is probably why the medical industry keeps losing money administration. People in the medical industry get paid five times more than the average nurse somebody who didn’t go to college getting paid more than somebody who did go to college? Somebody who doesn’t save lives gets paid more than somebody who does Administration in the hospital get paid more than a nurse and they have a lot more job security

[@12v71detroit]

revenge of the nurses that experienced no jab no job now we have a huge shortage of nurses

[@sharklee3248]

DOUG FORD.... ARE YOU GOING TO WORK IN THE HOSPITAL NOW? OR YOU QUIT TOO....🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨🤨😐😐😐🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@Helfirehydratrans]

My mom would leave if she could afford to because your current job is threatening to basically will not threatening they are going to. It’s just a matter of time that they’re going to be reducing staff and even though my mom has been there for 25 years, there might be a good chance that she’s gonna get fired not the administration people that have been being paid more than her, and been working there for less time Not the union rep that basically the entire job is to try to take away pay from nurses because every time a union meeting happens, the nurses are defending their overtime pay Because basically almost every single union meeting, they’re trying to get rid of their union pay and their overtime pay And now they’re getting rid of nurses that have too much power Because my mom is one of the last few people with over 25 years of seniority The only people who have been working there just as long as her are the doctors Chief seen a lot of her colleagues retire or lose their job because they didn’t have high-level seniority in your But now, my mom with a high-level seniority but she’s basically number 2 in the seniority for the nurses and she’s possibly going to lose her job and loser seniority and have to start at the bottom. Those 25 years mean nothing

[@Helfirehydratrans]

Maybe the reason why nurses are leaving Canada is because when they get fired because of budget cuts, they lose their seniority when hospitals closed when the nurses start over at a different hospital, they lose their seniority imagine spending 25 years of your life just for someone to come along and say you know, white start at the bottom again Because that’s exactly what’s gonna be happening to my mom. She spent 25 years building up seniority where she actually has say in union meeting she goes to union meetings and calls out there unfair union practises when they try to pull the wool over their eyes. I think the reason why they’re doing it is because I don’t want someone who knows what they’re doing and union meetings. They want a bunch of idiot, fresh out of med school nurses that are too afraid to shake the boat.

[@Helfirehydratrans]

Maybe the reason why you’re losing nurses it because nurses with 25 years of seniority are forced to work somewhere else and lose their seniority Because I’m pretty sure my parents could afford it they would probably move to America But right now they can’t afford it

[@cnn8420]

Are these the nurses who were let go because of the vaccine mandates?

[@ti3658]

No 🙄

[@cnn8420]

@@ti3658 yes

[@joshfrench5858]

@@cnn8420 no one was fired over vaccines. Check with the nurses union.

[@yousefgebremichael2879]

Not because of me right now

[@ames2610]

Why does everything she say sound like a question???

[@Helfirehydratrans]

Maybe the reason why nurses are leaving Canada’s because you don’t respect their seniority. My mom has 25 years of seniority and she could lose that. Because you’ll be forced to work in a different hospital Because of administrations, poor, budgeting But administration isn’t struggling they have loads of money. They have so much money that they can basically go out for dinner at a fancy restaurant three times a week. Meanwhile, my mom can only go maybe once a year. Because she can’t afford $500 food bill every week But administration workers Ken and they also have the benefit of writing off they’re expensive meal as a business expense because all they need to do is talk about the business and talk about things during the meal and suddenly that thousand dollar meal for eight people is paid for by the government If my mom went to a fancy restaurant with her coworkers, and they talked about work, she would not be able to write it off

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

How many unvaxxed are at home because the hospitals won't allow them to work?

[@24reyeser]

Us jobs for americans. If we dont have enough nurses, then we should train us citizens not allow canadians to take our jobs.

[@AmanSS890]

Could you blame them 😅

[@aaronjoseph7239]

Rn sucks in ontario

[@kimsedgwick8119]

Oh course. Money, money, money..

[@teamshuki7407]

Haha you work for money thats all 😝

[@Coffee240]

Like she just jump to the shortage in USA. 🤣🤣🤣 wait a few months she'll be crying USA is no better

[@nursesida]

Just waaaaaay better paid.

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

I think Canadian Nurses ought to stay in Canada rather than run into America. Canada is a peaceful nation.Crime in America will make your life a hellhole for them. If all Canadian Nurses leave Canada,you will take care of the Canadian patients out there,

[@Jay_490]

@@jamesbedukodjograham5508 nobody. They either pay better & treat nurses better or they won’t have any simple as that

[@accountforwastingtime]

@@nursesida not everywhere. Plenty of places in the US pay way less than Canada and the places that pay way more often have a way higher cost of living and state income tax. People have serious misconceptions about how much more the US pays.

[@opieutt9038]

Good! The U.S. needs to send all of our nurses to Canada, maybe they'll learn manners.

[@cynthiagonzalez658]

No way. They will teach canucks to cuss.

[@jennyvone]

Like coming to the US is going to be any better 😂

[@laujack24]

they literally makes double, with the tax break and increase in earning with less work load

[@elizabethhurtado2829]

🕯

[@patriciaschuster1371]

From frying pan into the fire.

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Patricia , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Angela , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@evolanomrac9531]

Sabi ko nmn sa inyo hindi maganda Jan sa Canada ginagamit Lang kau ng government jan

[@LutangLutang]

Madami nga naguguyo. Looking back, pinangarap ko din makapunta diyan dati. Kaloka tlga kung natuloy aq dyan at nagkasakit ako. Baka dyan pa aq namatay.

[@elizabethhurtado2829]

🗽

[@samsamiii509]

im next

[@elizabethhurtado2829]

🇺🇸🇨🇦🍁

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Cindy , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@morissalan3397]

Well said Cindy , Hope you’re are having a wonderful day so far?

[@jakejimstone5029]

It's nice to know that when the going gets tough, the nurses leave. The world of IT is much more of a burn out job and there is no union.

[@ti3658]

Lol IT is much more of a sit on your ass job. Does anyone assault you at your cushy IT job? No. Happens all the time as a nurse. Get a clue.

[@64Magician64]

Jake you don't know what you're talking about. Who are you to judge other people?

[@jakejimstone5029]

@@64Magician64 Nurses are like everyone else. You don't think others are not burnt out? They can't raise a 'stink' about it like the nurses. At least nurses have an option - get educated in Canada and leave your country to take care of others in another land all because Canada (like everyone else in the world) is going through a health crisis and we are struggling (like the rest of the world). You don't leave - you fight to make it right and not leave it in tatters. It's your country!!!

[@64Magician64]

@@jakejimstone5029 Hey I hear you. I'm not leaving but again it's not my job to judge others for their decision. We are all human doing the best we can.

[@7auros]

@@jakejimstone5029 I didn't sign up to fix the country. I can't help it if our protests and cries for help fall on deaf ears. We're not even legally allowed to strike! The provincial government has made sure that everyone in healthcare and education are stuck and they use emotional manipulation (like yourself) to push people to stay in jobs that are too stressful and can't even pay the bills. To that I say NO, I'm putting myself first for once. It's my job to take care of patients, but it is absolutely not my job to fix the system. We've tried over and over again, and enough is enough. I'm out.

[@carmenlajoie2719]

Which country implemented the best Pandemic Playbook? Trained and hired 450K+Nurses-Doctors-Engineers... CGTN The Point-Hub-Heat, Einar Tangan-Martin Jacques-Lijinjing-Tian Wei. Reporterfy Media-Cyrus Janssen

[@J.R.Graham]

Great true story,book titled-"Cowboy Mafia" 🌿🪴...,