Breaking down Jen Soto's police interview with Dr. Gary Brucato - The Interview Room

[@TheInterviewRoom]

There has been much conversation about journal entries. Q-Who is Jen's perpetrator, and would she report the person to the Social Security Office to collect disability benefits but change her mind?

[@Nothemomma904]

I suspect the father he paid for that condo in cash she is the only child he financially supports plus the strained relationship with Yolanda

[@Beckaboo3397]

@@TheInterviewRoom in my opinion that’s Maddies Journal . Her “illness “ could be that she either has or her mother has led her to believe that she has ADHD that’s why she mentions concentration. The fact that this journal was sitting out in plain sight gives me the idea that SS could’ve come across it and it could be one of the reasons poor Maddie was eliminated. Or even if SS didn’t see it Maddie’s right at that age that many start working out that what’s going on isn’t right. As a victim of abuse myself and being almost exactly the same age range when my abuse started and stopped I knew that it stopped because my perpetrator knew that I was realising how wrong it was. So like the coward he is he didn’t want to get caught . The thing that I am always down on myself about is not going to police and telling them. I told my parents but I think my dad would’ve been able to handle knowing that’s what happened so he chose to think that I must’ve been confused. But he (my perpetrator) then went on to have a relationship with a woman who had young girls that were pretty much the same age I was when it started and it kills me to think that it’s most likely happened to them as well. I’m just waiting and if it comes up with them or anyone else, I’ll be there to back them up in court. The older I get as well the more victims I’m starting to sort of find out about even before me. But all the same age range and stopped around all the same time. These demented ,evil beings are very good at knowing when to stop to keep themselves out of trouble.

[@Lily-ld7fn]

The bottom line says "that resemble my perpetrator"

[@robinlaing9560]

?

[@Edgeley]

Actually I’m wrong about the journal entry being from SS - seems like Jenn Soto trying to get more SS $$ so she can sleep more

[@Lily-ld7fn]

Gary is so very interesting. I enjoy listening to all of his thoughts, and I like for him to continue speaking until he has completely finished his chain of thoughts to their end. His words are pearls of wisdom and every one is important to hear.

[@user-ttilrr]

So true

[@susanngeorgia2024]

Yes!!!! 😉

[@GG7-cz8qw]

Dr. Brucato thank you for your insight - I've been following this case on a number of channels and you blew my mind, particularly with the discussion about prior offenses and legitimization of the offender by working at Disney. I knew the choice of employment wasn't coincidental, but you put the pieces together elegantly.

[@sharonneilson827]

I Love doctor Brucato😊 He's so awesome

[@TalLeGal]

Agreed

[@dyersonfire3792]

Can not wait to hear Gary’s take on stephans parent’s interview for me it was the most telling!!

[@maribelru2011]

Imagine a world where an abuser has more people protecting him than the child who died! The parents, Jenn, roommates, victims family. Etc.

[@surfer10ish]

Interesting show. Love when Dr. Gary is a guest.

[@caitlynmullins1608]

@@surfer10ish same. He’s a thoughtful gem who brings both humanity and insight about devious behavior and situations.

[@Pauline-v3h]

So glad to hear dr.bucatos measured approach and educated response . Some podcasts bordered on being offensive in their rage accidentally saying things that weren't appropriate. Thanks to Dr.bucato giving and reminding people glimpse of wisdom

[@summawriters106]

Spot on comment.

[@tracieday8661]

Jenn worrying about Sterns getting a lawyer after the photos seals the deal for me. She is a monster as well.

[@MissSassy79]

@@tracieday8661 there's no getting passed that hey!

[@francescabourne1611]

I'm really impressed with the police in this case, they have been on it from the beginning. I think if there is a case against Jen they will ensure it concrete before they charge her

[@904daniela]

A teenager taking too long in the shower, talking back, wanting to live somewhere else and going through puberty, is NOT a reason to medicate them!!!

[@LWalks64]

💯

[@thecozyconstellation]

that's a pretty normal, well-behaved teenager lol

[@prissypacheco2860]

@@904daniela everything has changed since I was a kid. This adhd and spectrum stuff and medicating a child is all new.. doctors get a percentage of the prescriptions, so you know they have to love diagnosing children with adhd.

[@ginnyanntonick]

YES

[@Mullaudek]

@@904daniela also if you think about the way they all described her sleeping- jerking, kicking, etc. She was traumatized! Not one person picked up on ONE symptom. But there were so many- how did they all miss it? And what is the link between misdiagnosed autism and trauma??!

[@madisonbaxter9906]

I’m so impressed by the officer conducting the interview. You’re right, he really is a pro!

[@eh1702]

His car-line comment! He was very restrained. She didn’t catch that at all.

[@LisaBenson-s3f]

Very happy to see Dr. G and Chris handle this. Difficult subject.

[@MandaJeanne]

Maybe dont have guests on the show if you're just going to interrupt 🙄 we actually want to hear what he has to say .... not just what you have to say.

[@denise8791]

This one has been on my mind since the beginning. Maddie didnt stand a chance. Ill never forget about her. She deserved so much more. Shes safe now. 😢 Thanks for this insight. ❤Rest in peace, Madeline. I would be interested to hear what you think about the Mr. & Mrs. Sterns interview.

[@SherylLovesAmerica]

Same here. And now I keep obsessing about all the other children out there who are going through the same thing and nothing is being done. Somehow this stuff needs to be taught to kids early on…that they need to tell as many people as they can. It burns me up so bad that he got away with it for so long and makes me so sad that she was never able to tell anyone she could trust to help her. 😢

[@cherylschumaker1366]

​@SherylLovesAmerica hard to believe it isnt being taught at a young age starting at home....than you also have people dropping babies and young toddlers off that cant even talk yet , and the parents hand off their child , to complete starngers ...scary

[@lisasmith7066]

@@denise8791 🙏❤️🕊️

[@Angiehagman]

@@SherylLovesAmerica the sexualization of children has got to stop. They are trying to normalize it, and it cannot be permitted to go on.

[@DonnaBrubaker]

The thing about Jen is that in the police interview she says she told Maddie and Stephan to sleep upstairs, but she says it so casually as if she really believes sending a 13 year old girl to bed with an adult male is no big deal. That alone seems very strange because doesnt seem at all worried about the authorities knowing this.

[@shelbyhunkler9259]

But boy is she worried about her kid getting assaulted in any kind of sleepover situation (as per her later interview six weeks after the body was found.)

[@alana-zl2fz]

@@DonnaBrubaker It may seem strange but she admits to knowing what abuse is.

[@TeresaMaddox-j7g]

I enjoy Gary Brucato he has sooo much knowledge on the sick minds of these individuals. Love his book❤

[@H.Michele]

I’ve watched several commentaries on these videos and this was, by far, the most enlightening. Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@user-qi4ff5in9z]

Thank you so much for NOT showing the explicit photos.Maddie deserves to maintain a sliver of dignity.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

@@user-qi4ff5in9z Any such photo should absolutely NOT be out!

[@loveandgutstv]

I was abused as a kid, and all I can think about is looking at that staircase, and all the times that Maddie had to walk herself up the stairs into the bedroom with that man and the level of anxiety and stress and fear and sickness that she must’ve felt knowing she had no choice.

[@drgaryb13]

Heartbreaking.

[@jamieberzett9655]

Poor Baby Girl✨🤍✨🕊️I KNOW HER CASE WILL CHANGE LAWS AND HOLD ACCOUNTABLE THESE DEMONS

[@eh1702]

And knowing that her mom had obligingly recited her lines about “needing good sleep downstairs”. This was to let that poor little girl know that she had nobody to turn to. It was to put a pretence of normality on it.

[@TalLeGal]

@@drgaryb13 In addition to your vast knowledge of criminal minds, I deeply appreciate your empathy for victims.

[@MissSassy79]

@@loveandgutstv I feel you! I always got 'get up them fucking stairs!' the wait was worse than the beating.

[@mmmrhinogirl5963]

Did NONE of the "roommates" EVER noticed any of these horrifying "sleeping arrangements"? They could have reported it!!!!

[@luv2luv720]

One of them talked to Jen about it. Jen said Stephan would never do that 🙄 That's from roommates audio interview.

[@kelb1880]

@@luv2luv720 I didn't hear that one! It is hard to go against the person providing the roof over one's head. Especially if it was the roommate with a son.

[@LisaD007]

Chris and Gary. You are doing such good things for others in this world. Thank you both for educating us, but most importantly, thank you for being such caring and compassionate people. ♥️♥️

[@TalLeGal]

Dr. Gary is on point w/everything he says.

[@drgaryb13]

Thank you. We know what we are talking about.

[@TalLeGal]

@@drgaryb13 Yes, you do :)

[@lockness1980]

Dr. Gary I absoutely respect your approach and work! I think your delivery and analysis is filled with empathy, along with psychology. Thank you for having him on. I will subscribe going forward. WE need more voices like this on youtube!

[@drgaryb13]

Welcome from Chris, Karen and me!

[@MauiGirl]

Welcome to the channel

[@lildoveable]

You have one of the most interesting, intelligent and learned doctors on your show. He is fascinating. You keep shutting him down and trying to upstage him and show off. I will not be a member. I can listen to retired homicide detectives on many platforms. Dr Gary is special. You are talking constantly and when the doctor speaks you say we need to move on for the sake of time. This one-upmanship coming from only you is disappointing. I will go follow Dr Gary. Thank you for your work

[@divadarlene0901]

@@lildoveable 😂. Who u talking to Lil Dovable?

[@totljag1]

Love Dr Brucato perspective

[@starahmed8360]

"Get her ready". He is not her father and she is a teenager. How crazy her way of thinking is.

[@ginnyanntonick]

I rather think was speaking in subtext.

[@TalLeGal]

I need both of you to continue analyzing this case together. The LE & Forensic/Psychological perspectives presented side by side is mesmerizing.

[@Vjbc_in_KC_opinionated_grandma]

Thank you! I have trouble listening to anything about this case, but the Dr. Is one of my favorites.

[@gracereeves5790]

It broke my heart when the day Maddie walked out of the house, she called her grandmother crying and said; "it's crazy in there." But her grandmother (Yolanda?) convinced her to return home to her mother. Had Yolanda been more accessible for Maddie, she may have confided in her.

[@ginnyanntonick]

So many times!

[@janeferguson4455]

I heard her say that she sent them upstairs to sleep because she had a really busy day the next day... she had started a new job, etc..... and yet, alll she did was go for bloodwork and then she sat around the house until she went to pick up Maddie at school...... THAT is a major inconsistency !

[@khalida02]

She said she neended some good sleep, not because of the next day, just tired from new job. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jaymuller1369]

I think the sent upstairs to sleep is a red herring and u think everything happened in Maddie’s “downstairs bed”

[@frangardner6865]

She only worked a few hours a week because she was on state disability. She couldn't hold a job any length of time anyway because she couldn't handle stress

[@MKUltra42]

@@jaymuller1369 I think that’s a possibility too because both his boxers and her underpants were found in that “bedroom”.

[@Shayla-m4k]

@@MKUltra42 yuck, that dude looks like he doesn't shower and wears the same pants for weeks

[@ThatGlamGeek]

Thank god for all these detectives and all the tools & equipment used in these cases! Hats off to all law enforcement agencies!

[@MandaJeanne]

My gut tells me that Jen has way more to do with ALL of this, all the way around. I truly believe that she was in on her death. Maybe not physically but gut tells me she called the shots that night. My gut has yet to be wrong 🤷‍♀️

[@Speeb803]

I feel like Jenn knew but she would force herself a blind eye just so she could have Stephen because they say she had no self-esteem at all.

[@nisebiggs6572]

The mother should be locked up for stupidity alone! Could the father bring a civil suit against her?

[@vanessaschaefer3593]

This mother is full of crap. The tests done are very specific for Autism spectrum. They are either on the SPECTRUM or NOT! They don't just get it or develop it. This mother is so clueless about her daughters disabilities.

[@NHawthorne78]

Great show as always. Justice for Madeline! ❤❤ Anxious for Dr. Brucato's book on Lizzie Borden 👍 Thanks TIR for all you do 🙏

[@amandaRNnNC]

I’m so glad you’re covering this, Chris. I always appreciate and respect your expertise! Thanks to you, Dr. Gary, & Karen for all that you do!!

[@mercurygirl6897]

Just bought Dr. Brucado’s book! Having surgery tomorrow so it will be awesome to have the opportunity to read it all at one time! Thanks for this coverage! What an honor to hear this opinion! The case is just heartbreaking 💔

[@Perky_Panda]

I wish Gary had more time to elaborate on his thoughts regarding all this, wven if it meant breaking up the video and audio of the case.

[@Edgeley]

I like the way Chris keeps guests in track this way

[@SamStone1964]

​@@Edgeley Chris was engaged with visuals while simultaneously running an audio interview that Gary was attempting to engage with.

[@penniemanley9723]

You know, as a mother, my child would be in my king size bed with me. And dog would be upstairs or on the floor in the room I was in. Not my child with the adult man upstairs. And a dog in my king size bed.her priorities were a disaster

[@wendyrogers0806]

What’s interesting is that if you listen to Sterns’ father interview, he says that the weekend that Maddie went missing, Sterns was very bothered, anxious/upset about something and asked his Dad for anxiety medication. It was right after that, he went down to be with Jenn and Maddie. Next morning Maddie goes missing. Very interesting

[@jupo9928]

Yes, I thought he was looking for meds either for JS or MS but maybe he knew what he was going to do. I hope his parents also check the dogs medication supplies.

[@RawOlympia]

He was about to get busted

[@Edgeley]

Yes I wonder that too! And dad said SS had telephone call with MS then MS texted him “are you coming” ….SS was shitting himself about something…only maddy knows what she told him on phone

[@totljag1]

Who lets there kid sleep with a grown man ?

[@peonypink9149]

@@totljag1 100%!

[@MKUltra42]

A monster.

[@juliemclaughlin5782]

Question of the year.

[@ginnyanntonick]

EXACTLY

[@ev500sam]

Dr. Brucato, yay! 👏🏻✌🏻

[@mandychadwick8762]

❤️ Chris and Karen. Here I am watching from UK. Thank you for your professionalism and heartfelt integrity

[@t4ngyfry32]

Thankyou Gary for being on Chris's video it's so interesting how you explain the mental thinking of an abuser it started when I was 8 my mom looked the other way or would say just deal with it till I can save money!I'm 52 now and it effected my life!

[@jillianmuwomuwezwa5907]

Has any one noted that Jenny was asking for her medication. Maddie was also on medication. No mention of getting Maddie’s medication for her to take when she comes back or when she is found. She knew she was not coming back.

[@Ljo7380]

Excellent point🙌🏼I never even thought about that

[@BackyardButcher]

WOW... Good point 👍

[@lisak5804]

Chris! Thank you for all the forensic education in these photos... phenomenal

[@anneritchie426]

Thousands of mum have long days at work, some do double shifts, but no decent parent would send a child to bed with a boyfriend,nobody will allow her near children and very unlikely nobody will employ her she's trying to cover up a lot but she's not as thick as she's making out. Anne from Scotland.

[@laurenj4128]

@@anneritchie426 exactly, and JS had the next day off work, while Maddie had a full week of school and was probably tired from her party. Why does the mum only care about her own sleep and not her child's? I agree there are no excuses for her behaviour.

[@summawriters106]

Chris-don’t dismiss the social security comment. The journal language is dissimilar to how Jen speaks and Maddie’s teacher interview equally puts beyond Maddie’s cognitive maturity but does track exactly how social security disability applications meet statutory requirements. What is problematic is that in some manner journal was shared with adult and Maddie’s graphic drawings were openly accessible to adult/parent.

[@sianbeecham2825]

Agreed.

[@zoehorn2551]

Also, agreed.

[@countygirl35]

Poor Madeline. Her mother failed her. As a mother myself, this is really upsetting that her mother didn't protect her.

[@vanessaschaefer3593]

Heartbreaking 😢💔 This whole situation with the mother and boyfriend in a toxic relationship for 7-8 years is just so sickening.

[@LaFawnduhsMom]

The mom stated in an interview that she was SA’d on a date with a man before Stephan. The notebook writings are hers for her disability yearly evaluation

[@MaggieMay757]

@@LaFawnduhsMom 💯

[@deborahtheredbrickchick468]

That ‘diary writing’ could be a practice write up for disability payment It’s numbered 5. Like a point answering questions

[@tracyburns2524]

Thanks for another insightful episode. I look forward to another podcast of The Witness Box. I was impressed with the interrogation techniques of the police and with your commentary.

[@holleyo.5083]

Separate from all that, it's bizarre that a 13 yr old child would sleep in the same bed as her mother let alone her mother and her boyfriend. She is THIRTEEN not THREE! Wonder what goes on at night as to why she'd need them to leave the room so she could "have a good night's sleep"

[@shannonhart9374]

Exactly and excellent point !!

[@rebeccadobbs5277]

She seems likely she has a problem getting a full night sleep. As a single mom she was relieved someone could help her. She said “I thought we were safe”.

[@holleyo.5083]

@@rebeccadobbs5277 she used the word we a lot even though lots things done were done done by "we" like "we" drive her to school. But Stern's drove her not "we"

[@holleyo.5083]

What's also strange is it a 13 year old would need help getting ready for school in the morning I mean I've been getting ready for school in the morning when I was a kid by myself since I was in fourth grade, most likely even younger than that!

[@100Mickl]

My grandkids were getting ready for school at aged 4 ! All and does is want to sleep and managed to sleep even when Maddie was missing- she had no panic ? Etc

[@debi6666]

💯

[@jw_FL]

First red flag … “getting her ready “ for bed or school is ridiculous for a 13 year old. They talk about her like she is 2 yrs old

[@bethdurance4648]

@@jw_FL and she didn’t know her own address or how to get home? Ridiculous.

[@amberkarim9239]

She wants complete control over her child making up her illnesses is for Jennifer's own benefit.

[@heatherb2762]

I think he planned this. He knew he was going to do this before he went there that weekend. His father said SS was having bad anxiety and looking for anxiety meds after Maddie called but he told his parents Maddie wanted to see him. BS. Everyone says Maddie didnt like him and was going to move to the woods when she turned 13 to get away. Then SS says Maddie had a crush on another boy. He knew he was losing his grip on her. Just like any DV, trying to separate is the most dangerous time. Poor sweet Maddie. I don’t know if Jenn knew, but if she did, I hope justice comes down on her too. RIP Maddie. 😢💔

[@SaffronHammer]

ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: Why is Jennifter NOT in trouble for lying to the detective?!!!!. She says "I dropped her off. I mean, we dropped her off." NEITHER one actually. LIES.

[@Romovictorio]

Maybe Jen’s mind is so scrambled she doesn’t know what day of the week it is. Not making excuses for her, she neglected Maddie on so very many levels. I expect we will be shocked over and over again. Dear little Maddie what a terrible short life cut off through no fault of her own ❤

[@loriematthews6418]

Thank you Chris, Karen, and Dr Gary... Great livestream! Love the transparency, love your expertise! Always enjoy! 🙋🏻💕

[@MissSassy79]

Top show! There's not many channels I can watch for 3 hours... But there was so much info in this video I'll be watching it twice!

[@MissSassy79]

I have no affiliation with this channel but pls have a look at the mob crew!

[@patriciaseybold7396]

Absolutely fantastic episode. I'm so sorry I missed the live of this. You two gentlemen are terrific!

[@sallyannayala3749]

I'd love to hear more from the guest...

[@jevans6080]

Would havw loved to hear more from Dr.B.

[@drgaryb13]

People already hear too much from Dr. B.!

[@blackrussian12345]

@@drgaryb13 lucky I checked yr profile. was just about to give the comment a big old thumbs down!!🤣

[@Lily-ld7fn]

@@drgaryb13 No we do not. We love hearing your opinions and the facts that you know. You come across as wise, extremely intelligent and very very kind.

[@Toni-jq5mm]

Omg he is a monster great show Chris and Dr Brucato God Bless You😇😇

[@desired4558]

She is sounding more normal than I would be. I would be hysterical freaking the F out!!! Unbelievable

[@shannonhart9374]

No way I could sit there so calmly while talking to police and not wanting to rush through the interview just to be out there looking for my child myself!

[@vanessaschaefer3593]

1000 percent!! I would be flipping out!!

[@littlehedgehog279]

I would be totaly hysterical if my child was missing. She is just too calm.

[@lisak5804]

Sounds like she's making a hotel reservation the whole time.

[@circesoul2218]

@littlehedgehog279 While I agree, it's not uncommon for pill poppers to sound like this. Pharmaceuticals turn people into walking zombies. She was like this while raising Maddie, which is heartbreaking.

[@normajari8767]

This is shocking that she clearly is putting her child in bed with this grown man!Im just so sick and angry. This is just infuriates me even having one boy and three girls after a certain age. My son never slept in a room with the girls again not because anything was wrong. It’s because that’s what you’re supposed to do.

[@minnie3278]

This police interviewer sounds like Joe Friday from Dragnet (Jack Webb) 😂❤

[@kellyegan9824]

He does 😂

[@AileenBartlett-ym4ec]

If you look at the journal entry. The crossed out bit at top says about her about her ability to work. It's obviously Jen's journal. Maddy didn't work.

[@melbournegirl7]

Very proud to be one of your early channel members. Your subscribers are now more than 200,000 and growing. The more educated people can become the more these predators will get noticed.

[@enick7955]

😊makes me sad for all the rest. It's well deserved.

[@gskitten]

As always, thank you for everything you do and Dr. Brucato is my favourite guest. They are all my favourite guests! Just like watching a masterclass!

[@njpb8583]

The mother’s demeanor while being interviewed is chilling She’s so cavalier about the whole thing Super creepy

[@kelb1880]

medicated

[@MKConnecticut]

Doctor Gary is EXACTLY who I need to hear from right now about this crazy case! He’ll tell us the straight scoop! I live in CT- just a train ride from NYC and I hope someday to meet him. This case has touched so many-like none other for most of us. I think it’s this seemingly “simple” background that gets us-how can it be that so much harm was done? Let me say, the harm of abuse is great-often not seen except by those who have experienced it themselves

[@kchabak68]

The room Sterns was sharing with Maddie the night she died only had one pillow. If they both were sleeping in the bed, where is the other pillow? Could the other pillow have been involved in crime?

[@melsafken764]

I don't think Stephen slept that night.

[@jendee1260]

@@melsafken764 that’s not really the point. WHY was there only 1 pillow? is the point.

[@sianbeecham2825]

It looked cold and empty. Where are the sheets, the pillow cases, the duvet covers or toys. 13 year olds have stuff, bears, skateboards, bikes, something. The house is empty.

[@summawriters106]

@@sianbeecham2825 Her cubby off the dining room is warmer,more colorful and more kid like. Oddly, more akin to a younger child though-stuffed animals etc.

[@TalLeGal]

@@sianbeecham2825That’s exactly what Dr. B commented upon as well.

[@hope46sf]

I keep listening/ watching this video and am in awe of the way Chris and Dr Brucato analyze what the detectives found. Thank you both, again!! 🙏🙏🙏 Justice for sweet Madie!!

[@michelleatkinson6586]

Hi from England love you show and find DR Brucato analyst interesting love it when he is on the show 🥰

[@crystal3674]

I've never heard anyone say the words "I'm gonna say...", "I think" and "I can't remember", as much as I've heard from Jen and Stephan throughout their interviews! 😳🤦‍♀️

[@sweetseeker]

When the Mom says.....Will you keep it forever? ( Maddie's phone). I believe that she knows Maddie is not coming back.

[@Bellaninjadawg]

I have a question for Dr Gary. Please don't feel like I'm coming at you or that I'm being a bot or a troll. I really am not. There is a word you used a few times in this video I do not understand, can you please clarify the definition? The word is agnostic. I thought I understood this word to have a completely different meaning. So I had to look it up in the Webster's Dictionary. Sir you just taught me that the definition has a different meaning and could be used as an adjective pertaining to today's society of technologies. I'm 52 years old and have never heard anyone use the word agnostic any other than a noun and pertaining to God. Thank you. 😮😮

[@drgaryb13]

It means "I take the position that I do not know one way or the other."

[@Bellaninjadawg]

@@drgaryb13 yes sir. Thank you for the clarification.

[@staceepayne8787]

I am 60 yrs of age and just learned this other meaning too! Never too old!

[@annamariam1077]

Just because the drawings might be Maddie’s doesn’t mean the notes are. We should be careful speculating.

[@monogamousapostate6626]

Agree!

[@lisasmith7066]

I think Stephan was going to return to the dumpsite and better dispose of Maddie to make it look like she was abducted. He didn’t think the cops would get anything off his phone. He didn’t realize he’d been caught on video with her lifeless body in the passenger seat of his car after the time he said he dropped her at/near school. Maybe when he arrived that night after the grandparents party for Maddie he was surprised when she refused him. I think this was done quickly (as in he put little thought into how to get away with it) and I think he was hoping it would be an unsolved child abduction. He’s not the brightest bulb in the batch. Thanks Chris. Having Dr. Brucato analyze this is really all I need to see out of the 100s of KZbinrs covering it.

[@summawriters106]

Interesting theory, your thoughts would explain why in his first conversation with his parents Stephan emphasized he had dropped Maddie off in a place where there were lots of abductions and trafficking.

[@TalLeGal]

@@summawriters106Right? The same way his parents were elderly, deaf & needed his help at home.🙄

[@RachelUphus]

Great show and so very insightful…Dr Gary is the best and I have to say a special thanks to those amazing police dogs 🐾

[@Gymnastics-tq2zl]

Thank you T.I.R. and Dr. Gary. A very informative discussion as always.

[@sabrinalennox2004]

Another great episode. Thanks Chris !

[@MotherMissionary]

Thank you to you both ❤ Prayers for all the little boys and girls whose innocence was stolen, those precious angels like Maddie whose lives were taken and all those survivors listening tonight.

[@user-qi4ff5in9z]

Thank you, Dr. B for dedicating this show to Madeline. Thanks as well for acknowledging that SS has more victims out there.

[@debereisinger3057]

I'm 72, a NV resident and I'm driving by myself to Florida. I just bought "The New Evil" from Audible. I will definitely be "reading" Dr. Gary's book. P.S. I'm definitely carrying a weapon with me on the drive! Thank you so much!

[@maryleeruoti5442]

I think Madeline was pregnant and she told Stephan on the phone before he came. That is why he became so anxious after he talked to her. I feel like Jen knew everything.

[@govindagovindaji4662]

Forensics showed she was NOT pregnant, but whether or not she knew she wasn't is a whole different story.

[@pennyroyal-tea]

@@govindagovindaji4662nothing has been confirmed regarding pregnancy. “Forensics” has not made that statement

[@assumptaai]

This is a really excellent combination of experience and expertise. I appreciate both of your valuable commentary, it's very rare to get this level of professional insight from KZbin crime videos

[@nickychargreaves1111]

Could not agree more! Finally an insight and educated view...

[@mslillian4232]

Gary it would be nice if you do your own analysis on your own channel. Chris has a bad habit of interrupting your analysis. And he focuses more on the detective work instead. This should be called detective work analysis. Not 'The interview room. No disrespect to Chris I'm just giving my opinion.

[@Soh583]

I think there is so much in the interview with Stephen’s parents from psychological point of view to explore. Chris I always enjoy your expertise and experience but I think sometimes you invite Gary because you know people are hungry to hear from him …to get more clicks as you don’t let him talk much sadly, specially this time .

[@wordsleuth992]

I agree!! This was my first time on this channel and I was annoyed again and again by him cutting him off to get through on a schedule rather than let the brilliant man speak!! He has incredible insight to share - let the man speak!! Chris - You were way off base with your speculations about the bag in the back seat - people who are asphyxiated do not produce this type of blood if any at all. Stick to what you know and learn how to pronounce AS-FIX-EE-AH. Maddie was not seen leaving the condo. Maybe take some time brushing up on the case before you present!!

[@peonypink9149]

Well done Chris and Gary- especially Gary’s last words for everyone❤

[@kelb1880]

Big hearts in our great guys here.

[@cmaggior1]

Creepy that this guy worked at DISNEY?!? I'm a single mom of four. I can't imagine letting this stuff go like this. I just can't fathom it. What a screwed up individual. 😢

[@TalLeGal]

You are so correct Dr. Brucato. “If she lived . . .” It never leaves you.

[@carrow1057]

Correct Dr Gary. I would love to know what Stephan said to her. How he alienated her from her mother. This absolutely happened.

[@TN-rf7nt]

I'd love to see both of you opine on the latest videos released with the detective who really calls Jenn Soto on her priorities.

[@guardingheroes]

Either or, the mother and anyone connected to her needs to be investigated and ruled out. She was being abused for years. I HOPE the investigators go deep into this. They so far got the big fish. But, where did he send those pictures and videos? Did she complain to anyone other than her journal? I wonder how her therapist feels. Sad so sad. This happens all over the world. There shouldn’t be any censorship. This is the way people can learn and be aware. Thank you for making this video. RIP Maddie

[@karenmorente7589]

Chris you and. Gary are doing a very good job with covering. tfhis case. These cops are great even more importantly. Thankyou all for sharing your knowledge and service. Karen Morente

[@lisak5804]

Jenn also said she wanted maddie taken back hom so she could soend time with her (even though maddie could have spent the night at Grandma's like she does frequently) but then doesn't spend time with her ...doesnt even take her to school! So why did she need to come home ...except for SS.

[@baconrocks1720]

Just want to express my appreciation of the way this horrific crime is dealt with on your channel. Unlike most social media/youtube "creators", you have enough decency not to express outrageous and unfair opinions, and to not show inappropriate and sensational photos of the victim. It is a very thoughtful, considerate approach when compared to many others. I'm not sure how many people realize that social media these days has become a huge problem which I believe is unhealthy for society at large.