Breaking Free from the Institutionalized Church 11-23-24 - Tiffany Root & Kirk VandeGuchte

[@karenward1272]

This is so freeing. I love His teaching us this. Yahoo! Thank you for this word.

[@shawnmcquillan3874]

Excellent analogy! Thanks! This message is in keeping with/ what the Holy Spirit is teaching me now

[@mecarlajean]

Really love u guys❤

[@lindac2554]

I do 2 from Oz

[@seekingthegloryofgod5958]

Thank you :)

[@Redemption-2024]

The Lord Jesus took me out of New World Order Church System at 15 years ago. Thanks Lord. Praise Lord Forever 🎉🎉🎉

[@crystalmarine]

Yes!!! He took me out in 2012! People always have opinions on it.

[@mesmerizebyjessicas]

I received this blessing in the LORD JESUS CHRIST THE MESSIAH'S PRECIOUS PRECIOUS INNOCENT BLOOD ON THE CROSS IN CALVARY IMMEDIATELY. Indeed! Amen...Shalom...

[@mariacanovas5401]

Jesus took me out from our Church during COVID lockdown. I had a dream: I went into a wooden House ( I knew It was a Church), made with tree trunks, like old West houses... It was plenty of wolves, of different skin colours ( grey, black, Brown...). All the wolves were taking care of the sheeps, even baby sheeps... Of course, sheeps were not aware of being ruled and even prisoners of the wolves.... Sheeps even did'nt recognized them as Wolves... As I was shocked with so, the person that was showing me the House told me that I needed like going out from there to make this finish... I'm still out.

[@Rita-lo2vv]

Yes, Stockholms Syndrom in church. Amen Shalom from Stockholm Sweden

[@MargoLanding-it8qb]

ITS CALLED TRAUMA BONDING!

[@allinforjesus]

We are seeing many churches collapse under the weight of the tithe. The love of money!

[@stevep9041]

2:54 I lived through the longest lockdowns in the world (Melbourne) and I understand Stockholm Syndrome and see it in the church.

[@mitzihoffman2168]

Wow! That’s cool about the dev books. Blessed to have all three.

[@angelhart2820]

I still love the freedom to tithe. I just split it up and send it all over !!! I love to give !!!!❤ I'm not in an institutional church either

[@seekingthegloryofgod5958]

God is a giver! :)

[@petropeyper954]

Amen and thank you...from South Africa!

[@mitzihoffman2168]

Boy this is a big mission for us to accomplish. But we can do all things with Christ help.🙌

[@mariaweihert8667]

Thank you ❤

[@Kellisue5]

ThI'm s is so good! Thank you both. We used to be part of a house church but people brought " their control " issues with them. And it became so judge mental if you didn't live and dress a certain way.

[@MeCynthiaAnn]

Hugs…thank a bunch from Cynthia Ann in JANESVILLE, WI

[@mecarlajean]

There can also be alot of Fear in deconstruction

[@crystalmarine]

Deconstructing is when the individual is in control of figuring it all out. Following Christ is letting the Holy Spirit lead EVERY step of the way.

[@seekingthegloryofgod5958]

Yes

[@tammy96]

Great Word!

[@LauriWilliams-b7e]

similar to the difference between public school and homeschool

[@seekingthegloryofgod5958]

Yes

[@kurtremislettmyr7108]

it's like av dependance. Like av addiction.

[@Rlaplante73]

Amen and amen.

[@MargoLanding-it8qb]

Many arenot allowed to ever minister because of tight grip control. It was not a problem leaving for some.

[@workoutmusic4209]

This is a very timely word for me and the Stockholm syndrome comparison was very convicting. I need to hear more about what church is supposed to look like because this is all I've ever known and I'm afraid of misleading my children. Can you explain more about what your home churches look like?

[@seekingthegloryofgod5958]

We have a lot of videos on questions answered regarding home church and church in general. Here's the playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL5kP-PPf6Hx8kOdUcfjmHj6B4ALX3HTrw It's a really long playlist, but you can scroll through to see the topics that you are interested in. Basically, our house churches are under the fivefold government and are totally Spirit-led. We do not have an agenda except to exalt Jesus and make disciples. Each church runs a little differently because of the Spirit leading. Let us know if you have more questions: [e-mail]

[@sarahmartinez3391]

Hi thanks for your word. Would you expand on the me tithe? Is the team suggesting tithing is not something Christians should do? I thought this was something that Paul commanded. Have I missed a trick? Thanks so much! ❤

[@seekingthegloryofgod5958]

We have several videos on that subject. Here are some of them. Let us know if you have questions :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3ScpYGiptafnKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJzbkI2qmrSLqpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5bJn2OHjax8n80

[@vbetta8979]

From my understanding, in the New Covenant, we are to be "cheerful givers" and there is no mandated 10%. It can be more, you know? Just be led by Holy Spirit, with peace and cheerfulness. Support ministries that are doing His will. Find people in need. I feel BLESSED to be able to give. ❤

[@MargoLanding-it8qb]

It happens in church when scripture is used to manipulate members via like forgiveness. We are called to walk in forgiveness or think in happy things scripture so you ignore warning signs of abuse and stay simply putting up with more abuse.

[@workoutmusic4209]

Seeing this all over the place these days 😔

[@daved7808]

You are called to Forgive, but that doesn’t mean you stay in Bad Relationships or Situations.