Breaking In the New Ebay Turbo on 20psi

[@numinous4789]

It's cool looking back and seeing how far Hayden has come in terms of welding skills.

[@253sam]

for eBay turbos, Speedfactory used to run these on one of their 10 sec Vitara hatches. big factor to your oil leak is running too big of an oil line. -3 is recommended but if running a -4 you'll want an oil restrictor.

[@dannyb20vtec28]

real street car builders! light chassis hondas with budget built setups! sick as fuck ! boosted boiz 100! fun as hell

[@Curtis14adam]

This might sound stupid but this channel and you guys are the reason why I am taking a shot at fixing my truck. I knew a decent amount about Chevy motors and then my head gasket blew. I own a 2.2l Chevy s10 96 4cyl automatic 120 k miles I wanted to save it and this channel just gave me the confidence that kids my age can do this stuff

[@sirjizzalot]

what the real problem with the original turbo was the sharp 90 degree drain fitting would not allow the oil to properly drain thus over pressurized the center section seal weeping past the gap.

[@jasonseidel7605]

sirjizzalot think you nailed it!!

[@Damiansgarage]

I love that rainbow effect after welding it looks really cool.

[@Jim-gt7xc]

Am i the only one who thinks kyle looks like thomas from project x lmao

[@NRM511]

Jim LMAO he does!

[@joerikys]

lmao i commented that on an earlier vid

[@russelpatel4639]

Joseph Rikys he looks exactly like him

[@luisramos4781]

Jim same

[@mass13344]

Oh my god so true😂😂

[@El_Chompo]

"Just one oreo??" xD Hayden is like wtf how do you eat just one. Hahaha.

[@greatvaluegaming6901]

You guys should make stickers that say fuck it, since Hayden always says it

[@NRM511]

JoeysWorldTour I'd buy a fuck it sticker. shit would be mint

[@dustinevernden]

JoeysWorldTour should also make some stickers that say "should be good to go" and " I'm not too worried about it".

[@LBCvalenz562]

JoeysWorldTour FUuucK it...

[@seanc4750]

or a sticker saying "i should run 9s and my buddie shouod run 11s"

[@porkchopgaming8480]

And "It's sketchy" "It's sketching me out"

[@craig.daniel9352]

For an oil feed you run a small -4an 90* facing forward toward the radiator on the center section. That is pressurized higher and can go through a 90* no problem. Te return needs to straight with no bends. Even a single 90* is sketchy. You can get "push lock" style barb fittings in -an and come right out of the bottom of the turbo with a 45* facing the oil pan. The whole reason the seals are blown are due to the clocking of the turbo.

[@craig.daniel9352]

You can get a -4an 90* and that will go right on top of the CHRA in the feed port just like your restrictor or you can connect it right to the restrictor. VOILA! Your turbo can now be clocked right and your oil feed will not touch the manifold. I speak from experience not internet trolling

[@craig.daniel9352]

It isn't a about the feed that is pressurized so high with engine rpm, you are worried about it's way back to the pan. If you run your car too full of oil there is chance of it building up in turbo and blowing seals faster. Run your car low on oil and there is a chance you can help in the starvation of oil to the pan. I think after looking again you would need a -6an x -4an elbow and that would make the feed line Gucci. I have a 650whp dsm and have gone through a few turbos figuring out proper feeding and drainge.

[@memphetic]

Surprised that no one has said this - but that huge bend in the return line is likely why the seals blew. If you don't have an absolutely smooth, and almost completely vertical oil drain line with a large orifice, you will build pressure in the cartridge. This will cause either premature wear of the seals, or if it's bad enough, it'll push through immediately. Should definitely tend to this. I like your videos because they remind me when I was new to building tuners, just throwing shit together to get it to work. Not dissing you at all - it's all a learning experience and brings back memories of me and my buddies.

[@ramair325]

@boostedboiz, If your return line has any resistance the turbo will eat oil. In other words no 90 deg fittings only strait large diameter lines (mandrel bends only). This is of the most importance, also new seals ( bushings ) are around 7 dollars

[@raymondorozco3436]

Do you guys smoke cigarettes or was it just laying there for no reason, 3:35

[@boostedboiz]

I do not, have some friends that do though

[@raymondorozco3436]

BoostedBoiz oh ok no I was just wondering man, hey keep up the good shit man, love your guys videos

[@BassManBobBassCovers]

big fan of the cigrits

[@seinfeld11123]

ciggie but brains

[@woddow]

raymond orozco what do you think dipshit

[@802Garage]

At first I wasn't sure, but I actually really like having Hayden in the videos. Plus he films pretty well. Great vid man. As always.

[@GearHeadsGarageChannel]

The question is will last longer now, the motor, the trans, or the turbo! Its like a game show!

[@bdhale34]

That radiator looks woefully inadequate to even cool a four cylinder hell the a/c condenser on my car is twice the size of that radiator and my radiator is another twice as large as that and it's just a v6.

[@TheBeep818]

@@bdhale34 to be honest. They actually cool these motors substantially well especially for the size. I know from my experience at least my car doesn't go anywhere near even 210. And when it gets cold in winter I'm lucky if it even hits "proper" operating temps lol.

[@bdhale34]

@@TheBeep818 My car rarely gets over 190 but it has a full sized radiator in it.

[@TheBeep818]

@@bdhale34 ya mine is similar dimensions as the one in video. I was just saying surprisingly for the size. They kick Ass. Haha

[@bdhale34]

@@TheBeep818 Wouldn't hold up for anything besides short trips in my vehicle, volume matters also surface area matters probably as much as the volume, the lower the volume and surface area the faster the system becomes saturated and there will be a point where the output of heat from an engine will out pace the cooling area/volume of a radiator that size. of course my car has a 3.8l v6 in it which likely puts out a considerable amount more heat than a all aluminum 4 banger.

[@jeffkintuky5915]

Glad to see you guys making progress on the Odyssey

[@BoBuilds]

Love seeing these eBay turbos work out for people, keep it up. I'm working on piecing together a turbo d16, gonna work my way up to 30psi lol

[@juanpalma2610]

Damn now she’s awd k swapped turbo 😍😍😍 u came a long way bro keep it up

[@XxMusclecarsxX]

Why dont you put a 90 fitting on the turbo feed so you have the drain perfectly vertical?

[@johannesaize1205]

indeed but probably doesnt fit

[@hunt3rgaming415]

glad I found this channel! been here since the hatch build

[@raymondorozco3436]

HUNT3R GAMING ikr me to Been here since 1300 subs which is crazy

[@byloyuripka9624]

12:40 the problem wasnt insufficient oil it was pooling too much in the cavity allowing it to weep into the turbine

[@rustynuggets]

the oil port orientation is not about the inlet its more about the outlet. as gravity feeds the drain it needs to be able to drain easily. 30deg from vert is all you can safely allow.

[@TheNovaRob]

The boyz just talking normal casually cussing like we’re chillin with them. And best part was Hayden taking about doing shitty on his welding exam only to start his own badass company. We’ve come a long way boys. Cheers!

[@miahzzeebest701]

It's 3:38am when I'm watching this lol I should probably sleep and watch it tomorrow (later today) fuck it

[@thestig572420]

For that oil line you could use a small block spark plug wire heat sock I got mine at napa. They just slip on over the plug and plug wire to protect against the heat from the header

[@MatteR8]

i love how they upload at like 4 am likes its perfect no one else i follow does that and its the best just waiting for it to come because it always does

[@danielbazyuk]

you have no idea how long I've been waiting for a upload ...I checked atleast 3-4 times a day

[@iphone202020220]

Maybe it's time to get a job?

[@Mr009mm]

that or hes on his phone or pc at work, when he should be working.

[@PrimeKilla]

Mr.009mm Killuminati maybe BC its Saturday?

[@Brock_Landers]

I still have the same eBay turbo that you bought and it has over 20,000 miles on it by now and it's still tight as a drum. I bought a second one because one of the downpipe bolts broke off in the exhaust housing and it only lasted like 1000 miles before the seals went bad and it started smoking. I took the exhaust housing off of that turbo, put it on the first turbo, and I'm still rocking it on my B series in my EK Civic coupe. It's luck of the draw brother. Sometimes you get a good one, and sometimes you get a shit one.

[@Kiceczek]

Boosted B Series EK can you give the link for the turbo?

[@LBCvalenz562]

I think we should all give Hayden props for stepping up and being more videos lately. I can honestly say he makes videos entertaining AF. Everyone sub to his channel! @SuicideCRX

[@gostadolc]

"I lift Oreos into my mouth", good one:)

[@MrTheHillfolk]

We don't have emissions tests here in upstate ny, but you can't have a check engine light on, and like 5 of the 7 readiness codes need to be passed. That's how they get ya from clearing codes 2 minutes before you drive in.... musta cleared em on a cold start or something and had some drive time to the inspection station, or CO isn't that strict.

[@PaciDrifter]

Kyle, 4k left dude!! it's amazing!! KEEP IT UP BOIZ

[@rfvc600r]

I love this channel! I am obsessed with Hondas (motorcycles) and turbos. I drive a 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth and I have a Focus zx3 that is begging for boost... your vids are motivation.

[@BrahiemHylton]

glad u uploaded was jus abt t sleep

[@wisconsinner]

legit been waiting all day for y'all to upload love this channel keep up the good work

[@murphyslawperformance]

just saw that you still need the wastegate gasket, on my 3 cylinder turbo diesel garden tractor I just use orange high temp silicone, its good to like 2000 degrees and ive had it hold 30psi with no issues, i use it for everything on the hot side that needs a gasket

[@BOOSTJUNKY]

you need a 90° fitting into the turbo and run the feed on the dizzy side if u want to re clock the turbo straight up and down

[@YungSteambuns]

I've been running a T25 ebay turbo, no filter for 20k miles, I live in the northwest if that makes a difference and she still spooling like a champ!

[@non-foldingchair270]

2 years later.. How is it running? And what size restrictor are you running?

[@LemonMan_Man]

sent yall a pakage it should be there soon

[@markrich3271]

I have the dna turbo on my forged 383 stroker. Use that restrictor makes a huge difference. If those turbos get to much oil they piss oil out the seals. Mines been clocked at a 45 for a years no problem dont worry.

[@wholeset]

within 10 seconds you said "shaft play " and "took a shit on me" LOL

[@TheBMK792]

Nice work mate, glad to see the channel is growing a good clip

[@Zethru]

Randomly got recommended this, Jesus it feels like I watched this a year ago. Had no idea it was so long ago man.

[@JusSkott]

have ya thought about using a 45 -an fitting then use a cut to length hose the same diameter of fitting into the pan. IMO it's always best to have a larger return line than feed, allows for a smoother free flow. Also would look on ebay for a longer braided line for the feed, run it from the back of the block, over to the passenger wide and over the cold side of the turbo, that way ya don't have to worry about it resting on the manifold. Fucked up thing is, the braided line will be less than the fitting.

[@Cjudd001]

Maybe if your oil feed was closer to vertical rater than 30-40deg then your oil could drain out and not weep past the compressor and turbines seals that have their seals clocked with ring gap set to the top as in towards the oil feed. When clocked that badly you will fail sooner rather than later. Run a longer line and put a banjo fitting on the inlet and clock it correctly.

[@LoopKoop6778]

im fighting heat and too much oil with my turbo.. same thing happened to me.. drain got a small place in it and stopped the oil smoked i fixed it and now just taking it easy till i order another one... same one you ordered.

[@jacobfraser7967]

the oil line not being straight up and down wont hurt anything... if its really off the turbo might burn some oil, but thats mostly because of the drain not the supply

[@MyWolffy]

The issue with not clocking the turbos straight up and down I believe is it blows out your seals faster if it's not within the 15 degree area. The oil doesn't drain out properly and pushes through the seals and burns the oil. The oil feed is no concern.

[@scottb7605]

some excellent info from Honeywell Garrett..... www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/oil_water_lines

[@christopherhouchens857]

good to see a new turbo installed the feeds working good it seems like aybe even better

[@c.badalucco]

I bet on of those little spark plug heat shield boots would work good where the oil feed line is close to the ex mani prob pick one up for cheap

[@boostedboiz]

never heard of those and I just looked some up, that could be a great idea

[@HToWnRePPiiN]

That is a great idea, that's exactly what they use em for too. Wrap the plug wires to keep em off the manifold.

[@nippinkoi8924]

Air filter ? To protect the new turbo

[@halalmeat2246]

It's an eBay turbo nothing to save there lol

[@mikeg3529]

NIPP in garden Service I use the 99cent dollar store stainless drain screens on my turbo. just flatten it out and secure it to the intake with a. pipe clamp. better then nothing.

[@austintimm1784]

Not much dust in the winter.

[@richieschmidt6225]

+Austin Timm eh, I'll bet he's not too worried about it.

[@andrewr05]

Actually, I'd say there is more. During the winter there is a shit load of sand and salts put on the road.

[@177SCmaro]

The turbo is clocked funny, the wastegate is in a terrible place, the oil line to the turbo is crazy close to the exhaust manifold, the car is hacked up, some of the wielding is a little questionable, but it still goes like a bat out of hell. Nice.

[@danielquimby9170]

that 90 degree oil return. major issue on journal bearing turbos. need a slavage pump to go back to the oil pump

[@TRX450RVlogger]

Why do so many people call turbos they buy off eBay "eBay Turbo" or parts they buy "eBay Parts" just because it came from eBay don't mean it's brand is eBay. A lot of big Company's use eBay as a 3rd party way to sell merchandise and parts.

[@DavidHager1]

Ebay "whatever" refers to cheap generic parts usually from or straight from china on ebay

[@TRX450RVlogger]

Not always. I usually buy parts from eBay for my business and they never come as "Cheap or generic" it's always 100% name branded... Then again it's probably because I know what I'm looking for though.

[@johnsmif6615]

TRX VLOGGER most guys going to ebay are looking for the cheap stuff that will work for now, I would never do it cause it's a gamble that shouldn't be taken. There are legit vendors on eBay like real street performance, they have a legit site that also sells on eBay. Use them all the time for my build, but having a chinesium turbo is a scary thing. Don't know if it's built right and detonates on itself breaking more than you wished.

[@alexthedon]

Finally. Someone who knows a thing or 2. People think the same about amazon. Just because its sold on the site dosent mean amazon is the manufacturer

[@nokemavideos3737]

All the turbos I got from eBay are garbage found out the hard way trying to save money on a cheap turbo can be expensive your better off going to the junkyard and getting a OEM turbo off a car I actually pulled one from a Volvo best 50 dollars I ever spent lasted 6 years a little t3 Garrett

[@JonSnyder]

The engine sounded better at this boost level. You should consider keeping it in that range that way it lasts longer and drives smoother. It seems to be the sweet spot for the rods and cam that you went with. Consider lower compression ratio & higher lift cam to address some flow restrictions. This will safely get you running higher psi levels. But you will likely need e85 or methanol to keep up. Trying to up boost much more in current trim will continue to be a big maintenance issue. Seems the turbo oil line gravity feed restriction would only become a wear issue if you are pushing 30psi+, the higher the boost the more oil pressure is created and that factory single cam oil pump sure isn't optimized for oil needs of that big turbo at high boost. The step down in size of your fittings prior wasn't helping the restriction either. Part of the reason those turbo seals fail at high boost is snapping throttle closed under psi turbine is decelerating rapidly and air pressure builds in the piping, bov vents so pressure drops, turbo decels more which is ok but so is engine so not much oil pressure then turbo is starved intermittently and momentarily. Whenever decel a bov turbo car on boost helps to close throttle about half or just enough until bov vents and then that's when you let off the rest of the way. This will help the high rpm turbine last longer. Turbo Tricks.

[@twots22]

Pumping oreos and cran-mango on the front seat. Nice 21psi on the new ebay SNAIL. Get those bolts back in your torsion bar, better grip on the front wheel drive.

[@g4noxii]

you guys living the life.

[@groundshakersociety6637]

when is the civic going to be put back on the road.

[@userpike]

as long as there is oil pressure the way the turbo is clocked doesn't matter.

[@chobson4432]

someone gets it

[@joshuavargas8475]

correct me of im wrong but i beleive you preform your welds in sequence insted of one on either side and then another in the middle. i think your supposed to go from one side to the other so they tie in.

[@alltheboost5363]

fyi stock oil returns in general are 16 millimeter inside diameter once you get under 10mm you start restricting the oil flow and blown seals

[@kelkrst3129]

wheres charlie been? i thought he was like one of the main characters on this show? #BRINGBACKCHARLIE

[@adamediaok]

Kel Krst #BRINGBACKCHARLIE

[@TheRealAaronWitchey]

#BRINGBACKCHARLIE

[@eriklopez258]

#BRINGBACKCHARLIE

[@sieve5]

#BRINGBACKCHARLIE

[@dengaz4099]

hes in florida!

[@danilodelsol708]

plumbing advice for the future, 2 45 elbows reduce a ton of the kick back that you were talkin about

[@AA_Ron155]

T3/T4 step gap seals don't leak, are inexpensive, and easy to install.

[@1in7.8b]

Fucking cool bunch of guys. Keep it up. This channel is great. 🍺

[@92timberland]

The wago has to pass emissions? How does that work in Colorado? In NewYork, anything older than 95 is only visual/safety emissions, no obd plug-in for codes or monitors for 95 or older

[@Craigy82]

Its leaking oil as the turbo is clocked weirdly and all the 90's on the tiny drain. A tight 90 up top and get it straighter down bottom- she'd be apples.

[@goneweldin8181]

Cool to see where he was at three years ago now he makes custom manifolds good job Haden

[@bridgestonephm9]

Are the AFR readings right at 11:11? That's super lean

[@Rickjames127]

I have a feeling the k20 mr2 is going to be one of the sickest builds yet.

[@Rickjames127]

Sounds about right. I'm thinking of doing an older 2006-08 or so civic si coupe build myself. Going to take me a little while to afford something like that though compared to these nice little h22 builds. A nice jdm engine and trans prelude locally is like 3k. So ill likely have to go nationwide for some better deals. How much whp did the mr2 on 1320 have that you are talking about? Looks like they have some 900+ mr2 builds on there. I'm going to be shooting for 500whp without e85 most likely.

[@Rickjames127]

I'm all open to suggestions so if a base RSX is usually in better condition and cheaper it seems like a no brainer to me. I'm just trying to have a nice little fun 300whp-500whp 3000lb or under vehicle. That way it has a nice power to weight ratio and feels similar to my daily impreza. Rsx being 2790 curb weight wise with 160 to 210 engine hp stock I think it would be a nice way to go. If I got a type s it would be faster than my impreza stock vs stock by a good bit. Can't expect a measly fb20 to hang with the k20 I guess haha. Also as you said they do look quite nice exterior wise.

[@mitchweber7868]

I don't think your guys' angle is too dramatic for the drain it's probably fine I just hope that that little fitting you welded is at least a 1/2'' or bigger.....

[@rickE89]

Good guys, keep up the good work 🏁

[@monkeystik2]

Tell Kyle to practice feeding tig wire while doing mundane task,i.e. Driving around or watching tv.or get a tig pencil if they allow you to use that on welding test.helium makes the welder seem to run hotter.helps with thicker aluminum to puddle quicker

[@slingshot1304]

Is Charlie still tryna find his flip flops? lol

[@freebird1ification]

really like were you guys heads are right on but why not just get a longer braided line and loop it around so its not close to the hot pipes lol ?

[@martinfrandsen3960]

On the garrett website, it says you can clock it to about 30 degrees without problems.

[@memadmax69]

You should hook up a scavenging pump to the drain line of that turbo, that way you can get the rest of the turbo the way it needs to be.

[@saschalenz8062]

This was the first video I ever watched if yours.

[@DarkMatter09]

I bought three ebay turbos and none of them lasted more than a day on 10psi. I ran Garrett t-25’s on 18psi. After blowing those last three ebay turbos I them purchased a genuine Garrett t-28 s15 ball bearing for $650. No smoke little to no play.

[@noahsmith9136]

Can I get a link to the turbo you bought?

[@rileyrr2925]

Confused Garage they bought the EMUSA/speeddaddy turbos. They have an eBay store...the ek/eg forum guys swear by the brand for budget builds...as a k series owner I trust their word.

[@donnyhooks6970]

Opened up my ebay turbo, 25psi and hasn't broke yet. I've been running it for 23 minutes, Good buy.

[@non-foldingchair270]

What size oil restrictor you running?

[@aidanhughes4684]

i just watched one your videos...y'all were in Colorado huh on i25 near Longmont and firestone... I live right there

[@kyleellis23]

New turbo! new boost

[@portenio78]

Why don't you have your wideband hooked up to the Hondata?

[@mysteryj8203]

I'm just saying wrapping the header is gonna be a time saver

[@ForgedEggs]

Hayden understands my plight with the Oreo's.

[@keyton3772]

Hey I'm having the same turbo smoking issue on my freshly rebuilt turbonetics turbo on my ka-t 240sx. When it was rebuilt they told me to use 3/4- 1 inch return line but the biggest I could find was 5/8 so that's what I'm using. And that's what I thought was causing it was that the drain wasn't draining fast enough but I later learned the the new oil punk I put it is probably pumping too much oil so I made a oil restrictor for the feed and that seemed to help but I have oil on both sides of my turbo sadly so I think I need another rebuild now that I have the restrictor on. But no shaft play and builds full boost!

[@sixpacksandsrts9122]

Wonder how long these would last .if it was tore apart and high quality bearings and seals installed rite from the box

[@Revoku]

do you guys put air filters on any of your vehicles? if you don't I imagine the sand particles runnin thru the turbo and engine bearings rips em a new one fairly often

[@brokenboosted1515]

@boostedboiz what motors are you two running? what rods are you using? I have a d15b7 and everyone is telling me that there isn't stronger rods made for the d15s. any input?

[@808Deathmetal]

I'd eat the whole fucking box too, hayden. no worries.

[@902Bikes]

You guys should take a stock d series car (like the beater sedan) and make a series on building it for boost, like explaining how to do everything like how you'd do it for the wagos

[@Jay-yq1fz]

I cant get over them weld lines.

[@ElectricBlakeGames]

Am I the only one who likes to see boost come on at something more like 3.5k rpm

[@FFMotorsports22]

What eBay turbo is that cause if y’all running 20 and 30 pounds it’s not that bad of a turbo

[@stage3muppet]

Looking at your oil return on the tubby it will cause a backup and puddling of oil your getting

[@Jhcivic1983]

What turbo manifold is on Charlie’s car? Looks sorta like a stock manifold modified or something from what I can tell? Cool videos.

[@buddylee19082]

I think the way you have the CHRA clocked is fine... I AM however, VERY concerned about that 90 coming off of it for the return line. That my friends is NO BUENO. Try to find yourselves a 45 or a 60 degree fitting for the return IF you absolutely MUST have it angled to begin with and look for the same angles for the fitting going into the oil pan too (if you're using one there of course).

[@buddylee19082]

Just watched the vid all the way through... Good shit yall. Glad to see it's not leaking and is draining well.

[@michaeldeleon7492]

Big fan Keep up the good work Question You guys using Ebay turbo. You guys seem to have good luck with it. Do you guys daily your Ebay turbo?

[@muhamedmujagic7182]

When are you going to start building the hatch kyle? an when do you guys plan on boosting the manvan??