Breaking The One Inch Barrier

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Breaking past the 360-degree rotational cycle barrier to building a magnetic motor.
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[@edsantos6627]

I have a firm faith that someday somebody will come up with a prototype powerful enough to do work.

[@ITSCBJ]

Great work! Thank you for openly sharing your progress.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you, and thanks for watching!

[@Marginal391]

Thank you. We're waiting for better results and are supporting you. 👍💗🙏📌

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[@dustind3502]

Years ago I too was trying to do this. I wanted to create a similar effect as you described when you wobbled the rotor. I wanted to create a mechanical wobble that would be forced out of the opposing force to stop rotation, then reenter during pushing or attracting motion depending on the design. I regret that life has moved on and I have not gone back to my experiments for at least 10 years. I hope you find success and look forward to seeing more from you.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you. I hope that life affords you more free time. I like knowing that there are others out there working on the solution.

[@nothingelsetolose7661]

@@Motionmagnetics Where do you get such lovely aluminum disc platters

[@cleric022684]

​@@Motionmagneticsdo you have any knowledge toroidal magnetic field?

[@claudeposternak5006]

@@Motionmagnetics It is physically impossible without a _dynamic_ magnetic field, of which permanent magnets and stable metals only use static magnetic fields.

[@tribulationcoming]

Looks real good. Thanks.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you.

[@CrosswireHunter]

As soon as I see your new video , I get a very good feeling ... thx bro.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks! That's good to hear.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

inspiring indeed!

[@leeorshimhoni8949]

Excellent video. I like people that challenge the limits of conventional possible, trying to do what is considered impossible. Never stop doing it, you give inspiration and delight to so many people. Many inventions/breakthroughs were done by technical people. The deed preceeded the scientific explanation. Just do it. Keep doing it.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.

[@muddygupps4330]

An idea to make the rocking motion happen for a rough idea is to add half a marble under the spinning magnet table. And the other half of the marble in the opposing direction so that the half marble rubs over the other half causing a rocking motion. Try moving the marble half to see where the rocking motion gives you a favorable result.

[@vintasalo]

Good work getting the full rotation. You are stepping it up on the 3D printing. Another person suggested Fusion360 I would second that. Way easier and free as well

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you! And thanks for the suggestion. Since you both suggested it I'll check it out.

[@WilliamEades_Frostbite]

@@Motionmagnetics I can second their suggestion on Fusion360. I've been using it as a hobbyist for a number of years and LOVE it.

[@ryanderek8125]

Very good demonstration like the doorway method

[@premkumar-ty8ot]

Great work ..........

[@juano3000]

Have you tried several Hallbach arrangements, to make sure that the exposed magnetic field increases gradually as the wheel turns? Or possitioning them in spiral?

[@ronaldagnes2269]

Well done. Well presented.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you.

[@orgonebubbletechcuresyou3575]

I really think a flywheel would give momentum to break the 1", also consider a set up whereas the magnet is attracted, it moves the above magnet (stationary one) in the same direction away, but not as fast, so that the bottom magnets are slowly catching up. So i assume gears would be needed, and here you can include an extra fly wheel. Though the momentum is lost from the high speed it used to have, it should still be enough force behind it from the fly wheel to break through the 1" barrier, and at least it guarantees that it moves a farther distance and if that farther distance includes getting past any of the 1" barriers then, it might be considered as progress.

[@TheZafootz]

I am impressed. I seen your video about the 3 magnet motors but I didn't know you did personal testing in the same field. I myself have not thought of designing a perm. magnet motor of some kind but I do plenty of labor on electric motors all shapes and sizes. I'm very new to thinking in this concept of motor but what would happen if you put the magnets that are stationary (the gate magnets I think you called them) onto another spinning rotor that moves opposite to the main one. could you design one that used 2 spinning rotors with magnets that spin opposite to each other. I'm thinking by not having stationary magnets in this type of motor would cause less drag in the magnetic field reaction for acceleration....Good Luck

[@Motionmagnetics]

That's actually one of the ways Howard Johnson suggested doing it. So your thinking is sound.

[@Ytt-vw8qq]

Thank you for your effort to support who likes magnet systems

[@johneygd]

Imagine a bed with repelling magnets underneat along with repelling magnets on the ground , now you can literally sleep in the air.

[@Producedbylevithomas]

im really curious what kind of results youve had by placing the magnets that are on the disk so they're length ways instead of being placed facing the edge? i only ask because wouldnt that technically force the two magnetic fields to push away in the direction you're attempting instead of pushing away from eachother and pushing that one side of the disk toward the floor, which im guessing why its rocking when it works?

[@ornip1]

Would it be worthwhile to try moving the now fixed magnets in order to make a slight unbalance to ease the rotor overcome the slowest part of the turn?

[@clunkerhulk5448]

To help bypass that 1 in gap do you think it would be helpful to add a secondary flywheel? I would think that when the magnets are being pulled through the field it will move the second fly will so when you’re coming towards that 1 inch gap then the momentum of the second flywheel will force the magnets back into the field to be pulled again.

[@novicenova]

Your magnetic array layout is awesome. Have you tried laying the magnets out in a count or spacing using Tesla's numbers 3 6 9?

[@steve-o6413]

Always a pleasure to watch your experiments. The wobble was most intriguing, and how you thought it improved your chances for a rotation. I wonder if a built in slight Vibration would increase success...

[@Motionmagnetics]

It was something I hadn't given a lot of thought to before. I didn't secure the rotor to anything, and the magnetic field interactions between the rotor and stators were causing the rotor to wobble quite a bit in some of the setups I tried. I was really disappointed that I didn't have the camera running a couple of times when it happened.

[@ExtraordinaryTK]

Love it man! I too fascinated by magnets and most interested in John Searl Effect Generator even thought a lot of people don’t believe in his design but its very interesting and I believe there’s evolution in these magnets.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks. I find his work interesting as well.

[@johneygd]

With such technology , you can scare the shit out of those oil companys😁

[@fidelcatsro6948]

even running this setup on an electric motor will reduce energy consumption because of the pull push magnetic forces on the disc

[@NathanCoppedgeVideos]

Around 4:52 consider using horizontally and vertically protruding towers if you want to create wobble. Also, light leverage versus short-distance mass may be worth investigating with or without magnets. I have seen results similsr to one natural cycle without magnets.

[@YouWillDoAsYouAreTold]

why dont you avoid friction by making the wheel hover in air from a megnetic levitation system made from wireless power transmission or just permanent magnetism?

[@mylowproject]

wow very good work

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks.

[@ThankYouESM]

Maybe this can keep charging a supercapacitor while it also returns a tiny fraction back to bypass each bandgap?

[@mysticdavestarotmachinesho5093]

Thank you that was very informative. Just a quick question. If the addition of more arced magnets works have you thought about adding arced magnets on the bottom of the aluminum disk? Do you think they would have to be reversed?

[@Motionmagnetics]

Top or bottom, you'd still be working with the same forces. The trick is to use the right magnetic materials in the right alignment to induce continuous rotation.

[@MrGeraldino250]

Make this reality good work

[@marius-gabrielmarciuc3072]

try the 3/3 method on the aluminium wheel, you`ll have the movement more smooth.

[@Critter145]

This entire assembly reminds me of Otis T Carr’s magnetodynamic propulsion blueprints and also the Graviflyer, a design of note and currently being studied on APEC.

[@earlwilson6153]

What do u think of the james Romney stator?

[@rikkardo9359]

When changing the magnet configuration on the circle, you change the friction on it's base. That causes it to spin differently far.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Yes. Every time you alter the configuration it changes the results.

[@rikkardo9359]

@@Motionmagnetics That is because the friction on the axis changes, making it run differently far. You might have also started it on points of higher/lower magnetic potential points, giving it a bigger or smaller initial energy.

[@jameselliott9397]

Have you ever tried putting magnet wire around your rotor magnets in a manner that negates the opposite rotor magnet

[@colleenforrest7936]

I had some thoughts about that. The energy needed to move the disk that extra one inch, especially while the motor is moving, is minimal compared to the energy needed to move the entire disk. To keep things going all the energy that need be added is that tiny delta. There are some fairly famous "charlitan" devices the included a hidden source of extra energy to give their device that extra kick and make the device to appear to be perpetual motion. But what's the real goal? Is the goal to achieve perpetual motion or is the goal to produce continuous spin? If your goal is continuous spin, these devices are no longer charlitan devices as they greatly reduce the amount of energy needed from the mains or other secondary power source in order to obtain continuous spin. Isn't that a net win?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I'm going for continual motion, not perpetual. An added device would certainly do it, but I'd prefer to accomplish the task using permanent magnets alone.

[@HomicideHenry]

I reckon one way one can look at magnetic fields is sorta like tornadoes or whirlpools. Differing configurations can cause "blowouts" where it throws an object out of the field, but there's always the risk that for every action there's an equal but opposite reaction where a "blow-in" occurs doing the exact opposite that you want. Hence why, in my view, just a pure magnetic motor cannot work. You need a combination of things: Shielding, Gravity Spots, Imbalance, as well as Counter Motion. Then again, it was a few years ago that a university managed to create a magnetic "black hole" where a particular configuration of permanent magnets absolutely cancelled out all fields. If that's possible then certainly it's possible to generate continual growth patterns with a particular configuration. But for the home builder I think it's not quite doable unless you built around each magnet configuration materials that are either diamagnetic, etc--- to essentially cancel out different things. For example, glass believe it or not has magnetic properties, as does bismuth crystals, and as you shown aluminum. Everything to one degree or another has a magnetic attraction. I wonder, too, whether a temperature decrease (extreme cold) wouldn't supe up the magnetic fields too. Maybe the answer to the 1" barrier problem would be a small chamber of strong magnets in liquid nitrogen, forcing the object to pass through. Anyways, I'm just spitballing here, keep up the good work, Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you and Jesus Christ Almighty God bless your family 😊

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you. I enjoyed your thought process on that.

[@marcofalancia9553]

Hi. Try increasing the mass of the flywheel.

[@gmstream9259]

I believe the key is magnetic shielding / blocking the field in certain areas… Open up a mechanical hard drive and you’ll find material in there that does exactly that.

[@Plantedcorner]

would you post your 3d printer files for other people to use?

[@TCJC1213]

MYLOW TRIED. HAVE A GREAT ADVENTURE GOOD LUCK.

[@johneymute]

If you are sooo close to make them fully rotate,then why on earth we still don’t have seen a completed version from you in all these years??? It just can’t take forever,it’s 2022 so it’s time to show us a new and working one rightnow!

[@bob-a-louannamaria7960]

Use an insulator so when the magnet passes due to repulsion the immediate attraction is reduced or negated

[@fredrock9974]

Check out Coral Castle in Florida. The design at 2:24 I feel could function the same way. Edward Leedskalnin would hand crank his turbine to max power, and then the magnetic array was sufficient to provide the power he needed for “a day of levitating 10 ton blocks of coral”. : Getting gradually slower each time it passes the barrier

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

I agree on not making test jigs so 'tight' - I often saw promising results with loosy goosy setups - maybe have springy bouncy jigs - it's just with PM's - especially super strong Neo's they just take advantage of springs and pull so hard as to lock things up - so you end up either trying to make a mechanical limit or just lock it solid again - man you must have a TON of magnets around with all those setups - I tend not to cannibalize my motor renditions (works or art - paper weights) and just buy more magnets - so I've got a ton also

[@ethandeans121]

I think it would be interesting to see magnets configured in a vortex-like shape, similar to how water looks as it drains down a bathtub. There would be more magnets on the outside, then fewer and fewer as they curve down to the center.

[@Jkirk3279]

Fibbinocci spiral?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I think that's what Muammer Yilditz was going for in his motor?

[@ethandeans121]

@@Motionmagnetics My reasoning is that water travels much like electricity, and Howard Johnson said that the magnets have vortices in them, so maybe shaping magnets like a water vortex might do something. I've noticed small things build up bigger things with the same pattern, like how the solar system looks like a vortex, and so does the galaxy.

[@meh11235]

There is no electron spin... The torsion field flows in a vortex.... In at the N out and the S... use more than one planar dimension to take advantage of the complete field

[@damienbarton3910]

Love your work, thank you for sharing. 2 things I noticed.. 1- do you take into account the flex of your gates? Motion is up and down while magnets pass. 2- as you say in the video about nature isn’t always or generally isn’t linear.. have you had experiments with Fibonacci sequence in mind? Cheers

[@michaelstanley6466]

Along that line, I was thinking of an elliptical wheel or offset rotational center.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you. I have done things to stabilize the gates before, to see if they worked better without the flex, as you called it. It's definitely a factor. I have not tried incorporating the Fibonacci sequence into my work, but it's interesting that you brought that up, because I just watched a video discussing that the other day.

[@Greg_Chase]

@@Motionmagnetics Feynman's claim that "magnetic effects cannot be understood in an honest way, they are purely quantum mechanical" reflects a 'scientific cultural momentum' of discounting the presence of constituents of the Vacuum. "The Vacuum - space - is empty" is the convention. From the start of my elecengr education I wondered why, if a primary of a transformer is fed a DC (not AC) voltage, the secondary of the transformer will exhibit a pulse of current due to electromagnetic induction. Then nothing in the secondary, even if the DC is still present in the primary. In other words, the DC current in the primary is still present and the magnetic field around the primary that caused the spike of current flow in the secondary is also still present. I reasoned 1) there was a 'shock wave' effect on the constituents of the Vacuum that originated around the primary and interacted with the electron spins in the secondary 2) so why did the electron spin alignment in the secondary go back to random orientation? You could say "thermal effects" but again the DC is still in the primary, with its fully established magnetic field, still present 3) something else quenched the electron spin alignment in the secondary, after the initial turn-on spike of DC, after that shock wave effect 4) the constituents of the Vacuum are randomly oriented and the vast bulk of them overcome the momentary alignment of spins in the secondary. This is why electromagnetic induction 'requires a changing magnetic field' A physical analogy: a torch is fired underwater. A heat sensor is placed nearby. An initial shock wave of boiled water spreads out from the flame. The nearby heat sensor detects boiling water temperature. But the ocean's vast bulk of water is cold and rapidly quenches the boiling water shock wave. And the heat sensor detects cold water again. The shock wave is gone, only the very close proximity to the flame exhibits heat. I work with a small team on artificial gravity devices and we absolutely needed to understand how the primary winding of the transformer was able to couple through 'empty space' to the secondary winding. And "magnetic lines of force" did not move the needle for us.

[@muddygupps4330]

An idea is that the rocking motion is a wave like Tesla speaks of.

[@muddygupps4330]

Also try various sizes. Maybe half a shooter marble or half a beebee. Also take into consideration what the half sphere is made of.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Half a bb? Hmm. Hadn't thought of that one.

[@JohnColgan.]

Why use a complete aluminium disc? Try fingers individually in circle pattern or connected fingers on a ring so that individual fingers are affected by the eddy currents

[@LeoPenna]

Gracias por compartir amigo, yo quiero trabajar en un proyecto que acumule inercia para romper la barrera de una pulgada como usted dice, el movimiento no tendría que ser solo rotatorio sino lineal combinado, un afectuoso saludo! Los imanes esconden algo

[@Motionmagnetics]

Gracias por ver. Eso suena como un proyecto interesante. Te deseo éxito.

[@failforwardresearch3127]

This is difficult, but you are doing excellent work! It would be great to talk to you

[@thebytebeatguy]

Have you perhaps considered the outer magnets to be able to rotate to create a sort of cog effect?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I have, actually.

[@franky5272]

Hi, why does the rotor have to be round? ;-)

[@tantaluss68]

can you break the one-inch barrier by using a vertical rotation and using a nonmagnetic counterweight in the right position to use gravity to pull it through the one-inch barrier personally I prefire a more solid state approach of feeding the emf back feed into another coil and stacking up the voltage by using a series of coils and using a timer controlled pulse I can eve dial it into 60 cycles per second which we need for setting up 220V in america

[@samcomptonbk4583]

Does the ball bearing cause any drag? In trying to reduce variables, I have been using ceramic bearings that are not attracted by magnetism.

[@steve-o6413]

I always wondered if you switched from steel to copper bearings if it would produce a small electric charge this coupled with a Aluminum Housing to hold the bearings...

[@samcomptonbk4583]

Steve-o that’s another variable that I have thought about too. I’m not that far along to add that. Maybe later. Lenz law causes problems.

[@jsouthern3838]

You will ALWAYS have drag using ball-bearings (or any bearings). Even if one could escape this, even the surrounding air is a drag. I know... what a drag!

[@Motionmagnetics]

Using ceramic isn't a bad idea. The aluminum disc I used in the video is 18 inches in diameter which kept the magnets far enough away from the bearing that it should have minimal effect on the overall mechanism.

[@maximosh]

Why not make a near frictionless bearing using magnetic levitation or suspension?

[@johnrhoades6665]

Funny thing is you could, or at least you used to be able to, go to the Tesla museum in Serbia and see magnet motors run. Therefore we know for a fact it is possible. I wonder did you try these steps on a vertical wheel?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I'd never heard of that one before. I have tried a rotor with multiple levels/sections, that sounds like what you're suggesting.

[@anthonywilliams7052]

It might be interesting to put some magnetic film close to the magnets to see the field changing.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I should probably do that more often.

[@Swallabat]

Hard disc dries contain the best magnetic shielding material known to man. I'm almost sure you know that, but just in case you were missing out on such a cheap resource, it seemed worth mentioning it.

[@tjacksondolph4026]

Eh.. I'll never end up making it so heres my idea based upon the crop circles involving centrifugal force: Place the magnets or windings in a fibonacci sequence as related to spacing/ grouping. First space has 1 magnet, next one 2, next one 3, next one 5, 8,13,21 etc The counter-rotating magnetic array of the motor would be arranged in the reverse fibonacci sequence of the first one. when you spin the magnet array it creates a whip like momentum effect for half a turn. when you have an opposite array spinning on the same axis the revving effect should be constant.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Ironically, I was just looking at something like that the other day, and there is a gentleman attempting to build magnetic motors based on crop circles designs.

[@whirlarc5916]

I recommend also using Fusion 360 for 3D designing. It has much greater designing capability and I started on Tinkercad and then started using Fusion 360 and it’s a good step up.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks. That's a good idea. Tinkercad is nice but definitely has its limitations.

[@fuzzydragoncosplay955]

Pretty neat experiment, I can’t help but wonder though, if you used an aluminum ring instead of a disc, would that increase the effect your going for? Of course you’d have to have spikes of some kind leading to your axis of rotation, otherwise you couldn’t get it to spin.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I don't know? Interesting thought though.

[@fuzzydragoncosplay955]

Motionmagnetics years ago, was fall of 98 I think, I remember seeing a demonstration in my electronics class where a ring of aluminum was placed over the extended core of an electro magnet. When the magnet was turned on the ring was sent flying. I seem to recall that it had something to do with how a field would be generated in the ring of aluminum.

[@TCJC1213]

My brother mylow made a motor just like the one discussed here. And it was very close to Howard's

[@nyuuparadise1183]

Does bearing don't look very friction you look in good ceramic bearings

[@mylowproject]

That looks like the project I was working on

[@Motionmagnetics]

Some of the materials are the same. I had the disc made and picked up some of the bar magnets when I was trying to verify whether your original project worked.

[@CoruscantMe]

Nice man, reminds me of Howard Johnsons work...

[@CoruscantMe]

www.cheniere.org/books/HoJo/index.html

[@CoruscantMe]

Might also look into the minato fan configuration that bearden walks thru... you can potentially setup stators which collect enough charge so that when the rotor gets to the sticking point you can fire a pulse thru a coil to push it past the sticking point...

[@CoruscantMe]

Permanent magnets are Pure Current Eddies localized on the magnet form as the "anchor" for that coherent Eddy. Thats why moving a perm magnet past a coil causes the pure current to Back up creating a Volt potential which increases the faster you move the magnet past the coil. ;)

[@Motionmagnetics]

@@CoruscantMe Great book! I've read it several times.

[@Motionmagnetics]

He's definitely the inspiration.

[@TCJC1213]

The aluminum plate is creating eddy effects on the magnets that are mounted on the white brackets. That's why the motor wobbles.

[@oudotcom]

Well done Great work... Also try to put coils around the magnet and switch them open and shorted out and have a capacitor across the coils.. this could give the right pulses to accelerate them...and turn the disc into acceleration...

[@Motionmagnetics]

Perhaps I'll try something like that at some point? My goal has always been to achieve continuous rotation without an electromagnetic assist though.

[@oudotcom]

@@Motionmagnetics Yes, but will be hard to achieve... I guess the Russians have already got it to work in the infinitysav.com motor, if it is not a scam...but looks pretty good...They also switch and shortout coils in their machine, that approach the permanent magnets..

[@newtonbomb]

@@Motionmagnetics that's like trying to hit a golf ball without a club. The B-field is only one portion of the equation factoring into forces at play here. With the right stator configuration, a few well placed coils, and the right resonant capacitance to give the directionally biased oscillating E-field match your desired rotor motion and you can get the anomalous modes of operation you are seeking. I think some thoughtfully arranged electrets would also help this along quite nicely.

[@maximosh]

Why not make a near frictionless bearing using magnetic levitation or suspension?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I've fiddled with that to some extent. There are people doing some interesting things in that area.

[@hyperhektor7733]

what i have learned from trying to build a magnetic motor which runs forever is that there is a flaw in the assumption that a static field can maintain oscillation. I think there has to be some sort of regulator (mechanic leverage or electromagneticnic or booth). Think of it like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon

[@Motionmagnetics]

I like your thinking on that.

[@hyperhektor7733]

@@Motionmagnetics thx, some more ideas for you, think about magnetic shielding (Mu-Metal, can be found fo free in 3,5" Harddrives from PC's) , also similar but not the same, "Monopole-magnet" configuration (Wikipedia once had it explained, now they claim its jsut "theoretical again xD, ah found it under the original name there en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array

[@hyperhektor7733]

@@Motionmagnetics i want to share this good video i found today kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4K6eZ2ga9SZrdE HALBACH ARRAY, how to build + showing the effects

[@richardward6747]

Try casting your own alloys in a field, bismuth and iodine supposedly makes a strong diamagnetic field that you may be able to put to use.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I've done some work with diamagnetics, including bismuth and pyrolitic graphite. The diamagnetic effect is quite minimal, and I haven't seen favorable enough results to spend a lot of time with it. Good thinking though.

[@Tony770jr]

Nice work! I wonder if there is some sort of magnetic field simulation software that allows the design of a custom magnetic field and shows the magnet configuration?

[@ronrothrock7116]

There are programs that can do this, but they are often programmed with restrictions so that anything that resulted in a "perpetual motion" is forbidden in the code. It calculates as an error and it corrects for this "error" and then you never get to see if your idea actually happens. The program will tell you it won't, so you don't try that actual configuration. For something to actually work it will "break" the laws of physics as we know them and our created simulations will not be able to predict this since they are programmed within those laws and not allowed to break them.

[@Jkirk3279]

Ron Rothrock That’s because REALITY doesn’t allow it.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I'm not aware of any that would work.

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

Free ware - Falstad's Emwave 2 is good - lets you build a 2d simulation with magnet domains - ferro magnets - diamagnets - change perm - etc look it up - you can depict B fields - and get sort of a sense of flux patterns

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

@@ronrothrock7116 With Falstad Circuit Simulator I connected up a transformer as 'overunity' and it went into positive loop but then adjusted and shutoff - Don Smith said he had modules that could simulate OU but they were removed from ? by the early 2000's - I would love Fastad to give me the ability to use CW CCW coils and build various transformer configs - like theh BiTT unit and such

[@neontv6605]

Design is important

[@johnrogers873]

clean the flux off of your magnets by making a u shape aluminum foil covers for a small section of your spin after your last magnet and before your 1st see is losing that flux through the aluminum will keep your apparatus spinning continuous until of course friction wears you down

[@Motionmagnetics]

It usually slows the device down. I don't usually use aluminum for that reason, but I wanted to try something different in these experiments. I wanted to try a flywheel effect and thought the weight might balance things out.

[@gidionlukubah1754]

How the ring can rotate when it's also attracted to the magnetic

[@gilbondfac]

Pas mal ...mais le système freinera...👍

[@K-Effect]

Try magnetic bearing for it to spin on

[@andreasschmitt2307]

Try it with a pointy hat with "dunce" written on it.

[@Wtfinc]

@@andreasschmitt2307 ROFLMAO!

[@pugalstech]

Nice vedio

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks.

[@jwbcsb822]

I must be missing something in your demonstration. The eddy current effect of the changing magnetic field inside the piece of aluminum would create drag that would slow the plate down. In other words if you use a non magnetic base plate in place of the aluminum your effects of eddy current drag would be vastly reduced plastic wood Maybe?

[@Motionmagnetics]

It very well could. That's why I rarely use that rotor, but I wanted to try something different and that was an easy way to try implementing a flywheel effect.

[@Plantedcorner]

sorry i just realized i didnt complete my comment, i meant why didnt you provide the 3d printer files for the c-shaped stator pieces you use in this experiment

[@matthewcahill4475]

your problem is conservation of energy and losses due to friction, the only energy going is is your push, if you want it to spin further, you need superconductors and a vacuum to eliminate air and electrical resistance

[@aliendingus1991]

Am I wrong in thinking that putting the magnets (gates & table magnets) on a diagonal angle (opposing each other) , so as to push the table away constantly?

[@Motionmagnetics]

There are so many variables that could be attempted.

[@aliendingus1991]

@@Motionmagnetics Have you ever tried it? I've always been fascinated with magnets & wondered why we don't use magnets to make perpetual motors...

[@aliendingus1991]

I think the problem is that you're trying to get it to spin by using the gate method. If the top magnets (gate magnets) were free of other magnets influencing them, & you put them on an angle, then put the table magnets the opposite way (diagonally) on the table, you should get a more pronounced spin, shouldn't you?

[@pablob.toscano9379]

Try making the stator a moving part up an down

[@pablob.toscano9379]

Self regulated with the force of the magnet so it absorbs part the rotation cost of the magnetic field

[@anthonypalmerin7458]

Have you thought about two sides. Top and a bottom? Spaced far enough apart to not interfere with one another. Thus pushing each other thru the "one inch barrier"

[@Motionmagnetics]

I've tried things like that actually. The interaction between the assemblies usually creates more problems than it solves.

[@TechWizard28]

I seen a video of yours where you covered a brass rod spinning on a magnetic field when supported. I can’t find it anywhere

[@Motionmagnetics]

Hmm. The diamagnetic motor?

[@TechWizard28]

Motionmagnetics I thought so at first. But it was like a horizontal brass rod or tube held near the corner of a (ferrite neodymium combo) and it began to rotate as is someone were to blow air on it. Could have been another channel

[@shondmichael1363]

Couldn't you overcome the magnetic "wall" by placing magnets at the bottom of the plate where the wall occurs? Basically, you would want enough magnetic force to zero out the repulsive effect.

[@ronrothrock7116]

You talk a little bit about Howard Johnson. I've wondered if his successful motor design did something he didn't realize that you may be able to work out. I suspect that his use of the aluminum in his design set up eddy currents in such a way that they resonated. That resonance then ended up pushing the rotor through his "1 inch barrier" allowing it to complete the revolution. It would have been very hard for Howard, at that time, to measure electricity flows and accompanying resonance within that aluminum. I would suspect one would need an oscilloscope to measure this. I'm not sure if your knowledge/skills would allow you to explore this aspect in your designs, but it might be worth looking in to if you can.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I don't believe he used aluminum in any of his designs. He used metal shielding material but usually angled the magnets in such a way as to filter out any unwanted magnetic effects. And I'm certain he would have had no problem measuring the way that aluminum would alter the electron spins of magnets. He figured out a way to alter a radar device and developed one of the most sophisticated magnetic field mapping technologies ever created way back in the 80s. He was years ahead of his time, and way beyond the conventional understanding of laws of thermodynamics.

[@ronrothrock7116]

@@Motionmagnetics When I read through the patent the plate is described with the following. I assumed it was an aluminum alloy since it has a high magnetic permeability. Do you know more about what this material is? "The stator magnets are mounted upon a supporting plate 20, which is preferably of a metal material having a high permeability to magnetic fields and magnetic flux such as that available under the trademark Netic CoNetic sold by the Perfection Mica Company of Chicago, Illinois."

[@KalRandom]

Everything you showed has exterior magnets together, add 1 and space them out.

[@valveman12]

Armchair Scientist

[@valveman12]

What do you mean when you said: "Magnets are not static"? What feature of a magnet are you referring to...the field? The field of a magnet is static. You can, of course, apply heat or cold and affect the field strength.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I was referring to the spin of the magnet. Most people that are unfamiliar with Howard Johnson's work have no idea that magnets emit a spin pattern that looks more like corkscrews spinning in different directions.

[@valveman12]

@@Motionmagnetics The spin you are talking about is just a distortion of the magnetic field and the field still remains static. Movement of the field distorts as the moving magnet goes by. Please correct me if I got it wrong. There is always that barrier that prevents magnets from rotating endlessly. Did Johnson figure it out? No one has been able to replicate a fully functioning Johnson motor as far as I am aware. IDK...very suspicious no one has been able to successfully create a working magnetic motor as described in Johnson's US Patent 4151431. You seem to enjoy researching this so keep investigating. Stay safe😷

[@mohammadrayhanmiah561]

Free energy seems to be what it will ever be possible

[@MS-ph2ol]

Have you ever tried to create a genuine torus magnetic field? That might be a gate or induce motive force on an arrangement. In terms of 3D printing, rings with holes along the circumference could be printed to accommodate those cylindrical diametrically magnetized magnets: www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D48DIA Then, the rings can be arranged around a 3D printed donut, it would seems like an interesting geometry. Idk if you follow that EDIT: I am silly. The magnets already form rings. So, they just need to be wrapped around the 3D donut directly to create the torroidal-esk field

[@dav1dbone]

Mount it vertically and use gravity to assist and or have a separate mechanism that is "charged" from the disk for stored momentum.

[@Motionmagnetics]

That's partly why I was using a flywheel effect in this video. I've already tried a lot of things with gravity in my last two videos.

[@dav1dbone]

@@Motionmagnetics yes point taken, what about stacking 3 or 4 disks on the same spindle and spacing the effect to pull it over the gate?

[@victorhopper3899]

@@Motionmagnetics perhaps a sort of teeter totter system could be made?

[@madtscientist8853]

One thing to note. You are fighting a few things the metal you have the magnetics on the magnetics you use and diameter of the wheel you might want to go with some plexiglass for the wheel some N52 NEO MAGNETICS and make it smaller so you can test just a few.

[@ArjayMartin]

cut out the middle of the disc as much as you can to reduce weight?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I was going for more weight in this design to add a flywheel effect. I used a plexiglass rotor in my newest video. It just depends on which process I'm experimenting with at the time.

[@ArjayMartin]

@@Motionmagnetics cheers

[@olisch.7232]

2 Static systems and one of them shall move without additional energy. Good luck. BTW an aluminum disk in a magnetic field is a disk brake.

[@selfhealing1047]

A lot of ppl trying to build a “magnetic motor” but very few acknowledge the first and second law of thermodynamics. At quantum level ANYTIME a particle move from point A to point B generates heat, and that’s the first energy loss that governs our Universe

[@miketully9592]

My crazy thoughts are if you're spinning something and having that magnetic gate to get through what if you had a second layer of the whole thing with the gate in a different position from each other attached at the rotors And they can each break the others magnetic gate with their magnetic push Crazy thought. ??

[@Motionmagnetics]

I mirror your thoughts on that. One of my first experiments was based on that idea. I wish I had some video of it. That was back before I was recording my work. Perhaps I'll revisit the idea at some point, now that you have me thinking about it?

[@gmeeks6004]

You need to crush part of the wave

[@techstuf4637]

Congrats on earning your place as the next "Jean Louis Naudin" of free energy magnet motors.

[@edsantos6627]

Naudin is basically parendev. The principle is 'sliding over' which, if ever successful, has no leftover energy except that from the rotor momentum.

[@techstuf4637]

@@edsantos6627 Naudin was a prolific replicator and tester of other people's supposedly 'free energy' devices.

[@edsantos6627]

@@techstuf4637 .... correct... thats when I myself was keen on his dense vids on parendev and separately on bedini. I also explored kapanadze and jln improvement on the circuit. Well those are years ago. Glad to find somebody in this lonely road. How are you buddy?👴👴

[@techstuf4637]

@@edsantos6627 I could write a book, but you wouldn't believe the title, much less what's inside. It has truly been a Wild Ride.

[@edsantos6627]

@@techstuf4637 ... try me... unless that's a 120 proof shot.. 😎😎🤣🤣

[@drwakewalker]

Use more copper and crop circles