OpTic NEED CHANGE, ESPORTS WORLD CUP (ft. Sib) | Dope Check Ep. 25

[@BreakingPointGG]

Thanks Sib for coming on the show. Great ep with the boys. He's been grinding his YT as well, check him out here and give him a sub/watch: www.youtube.com/@SibDMDL

[@lwellis122490]

Sib bout to be the next Brittney Griner

[@jackfleming9573]

Don’t you dare make me wait this long again your lucky I still have 5 hr left at work

[@ewan503]

I was starting to get worried😂

[@BreakingPointGG]

🫡

[@asics4224]

fr optic fans say they should drop any player that does not perform well 1 stage. In the beginning of the year i remember seeing ppl say drop shotzzy I have seen people say drop dashy now it is kenny/pred. I would not be surprised if optic somehow picks up hydra and he has 2 bad stages fans would end up saying drop hydra for simp it is so dumb.

[@giancarlo2008]

It should be drop dashy

[@mkwsoxfan]

More fans, more delusional takes. Not as surprising as it seems.

[@mortalshateme3263]

You guys put too much faith in people that you have had on your team for years give it up dashy ain’t it. Never was. I get it ya’ll love the guy but let it go. He does not perform good all the time.

[@mkwsoxfan]

@@mortalshateme3263 I get loving to hate, but the guys been a league voted all-star, and/or MVP candidate every full season he's played since Bo4...

[@BreakingPointGG]

Most of the T4 teams don't need roster moves stage to stage. They picked up the best players and proven LAN winners + All-Stars from the past few years. The bottom 8 teams need to find stars. When you have stars, you need to put in the work.

[@zaineskinner8172]

Any optic fans cooking optic after a few bad matches isn't a real fan IMO you should always love your team no matter what they go through❤ ive loved optic since i was 14 years old im 26 now and my love hasn't changed nor will it ever. Nobody said it was gonna be easy and to expect perfection is ludicrous. They will win some and they will lose some👍the same goes for any and every team since the dawn of competitive sports, including e sports🤯🤯🤯

[@BreakingPointGG]

It ain't always easy supporting the green wall but real OpTic fans are out there. Thanks for the comment

[@SinfulBeamz]

Forreal people can't stand to lose and they aren't even competing!! Backseat gamers/coaches who know best and know all always trying to give their 2 cents about what the team should do. Braindead individuals who love to hate and aren't real fans.

[@suprnova5849]

Best podcast to put on at work

[@BreakingPointGG]

Appreciate you, suprnova

[@basedgodrock]

wasnt the last no fans event optic v thieves? so kenny won a no fans event and dashy n shotzzy got 2nd.

[@BreakingPointGG]

You might be onto something...

[@YaBoyGunna27]

I've been convinced over the years that just talking about OpTic makes you an OpTic fan to casuals. We've been getting shit on for years, I'm cool with loses as long as the team is having fun and doing their best at Lan. If OpTic makes a roaster change mid-season, it's because something out of game.

[@gotit2x]

Optic doesn’t need to drop anyone keep the same team going into the next game have that chemistry while every other team change teams if they struggle next yr & at champs then yeah make a change but now is to early they just won major 3

[@chriscarter4563]

There was no “on off” switch for b06 movement. They were just showing us what the game’s movement looked like before they added it. There’s no way there’s an off switch for a movement system that in depth. It’d be like having an option to turn off those character animations where they sort of lean. Or turning off prone. That just doesn’t make sense

[@Koalified_]

GA’ing omni would be horrendous for the brand, for the teams, and for the cdl in general

[@mkwsoxfan]

Whats more valuable for the world cup, going in with your yearlong team (like faze) keeping the chemistry, strategy, teamwork. Or building a super team and going in trying to talent diff everyone with a team with 1 month (at most) of practice. For me it would be hella entertaining to see 2 super teams square up, but if you formed one and lost to a team simply because they have established strategies throughout the whole year, man that would be a bad look.

[@kanyewest5750]

im crying shotzzy hydra and abezy are running worlds next year 😂

[@Syphenz1]

Yeah optic have lost 4 series now, but all game 5s and their SND has been awful. There are definitely things that need changing. Firstly, idk why Shottzy is carrying bomb. It should be Kenny and they were finding success when Kenny was carrying bomb. Second, this guy Pred needs to help his fucking duo in search. Literally every time we watch optic play its shottzy BY HIMSELF making plays getting pieces or bloods. Literally all they need to do is switch Ken back to bomb and have pred and shottzy play together majority of the time.

[@staaticc]

so excited to see how we can use this omni movement to its fullest!

[@JoseRodriguez-bf7es]

Shit some of us watch the whole show everytime

[@BreakingPointGG]

Appreciate you Jose!!

[@Cro0ww]

Great episode, have a good week yall

[@BreakingPointGG]

Appreciate you!! 1 more week of qualifiers 💜💜

[@nosyrBW]

When you win you go from the hunter to the hunted. Everyone knows their approach in snd the only positive is they have been good still at hardpoint

[@ShreyasGaneshs]

I don’t think formal is getting slammed but the teammates question is a real question to pose

[@ACVNA]

miss seing the pros whip out the thermal dsr on snd and quickscope mid tournament

[@BreakingPointGG]

✊😔

[@AchievementAchieved]

Love the length and girth of these podcasts. The flank is run like they got somewhere to be after.

[@JustSomeGuy009]

Flank episodes are far more often though, ajd they spend all day watching the matches in watch parties. Very different.

[@MoppedVAL]

I absolutely hate what that show has become it's so sad miss the good old days of vg flank

[@BreakingPointGG]

"Awesome podcast. Great size. Look girthy. Solid. Long. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new pods or clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and long you can get." - @AchievementAchieved Thanks for the motivation 💪🏻

[@AchievementAchieved]

@@BreakingPointGG 😂😂 exactly 👍🏼

[@AchievementAchieved]

@@JustSomeGuy009 true.

[@mynamesdillan]

Shotzzy has the league shook about this omni movement😂

[@JohnMane-eo8bd]

no one is worried about shotzzy lmao

[@MoppedVAL]

Fr every year dumba$$ optic fans say crap like this every year about the movement and they end up doing fawk all🤣🤣 it's the new "Bruce is motivated" bs we hear every year I'm dead ​@@JohnMane-eo8bd

[@SinfulBeamz]

Nobody cares what you losers have to say. And nobody cares about your "opinion" because at the end of the day, you don't know shit about shit.

[@DominoGaming97]

@@mortalshateme3263multiple fps world champion

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

@@mortalshateme3263let’s just ignore the fact he’s a world champion in multiple major e sports 😂

[@benjamingait4307]

Just saying imagine Beans on Carolina team if yah drop Clay for him to sort his life out and everything going on so he can come back with a fresh mind

[@liamdouglasgiles4201]

"incentivisation" is crazy

[@DominoGaming97]

Zero is the funniest kid man

[@BreakingPointGG]

U wot m8?

[@kontro11a]

When OpTic win same people gunna cheer for em like they aint never boo'd

[@BigWeinerTaylor]

Why is ace acting like Lamar coming back is helping them 😭😭

[@BreakingPointGG]

ROKKR without Lamar: 0-2 (0.0%) ROKKR with Lamar: 11-21 (34.4%) Ball don't lie

[@BigWeinerTaylor]

@@BreakingPointGG let’s also include they played 2 of the top 4 teams and took them to a game 5. Lamar being there and dropping a .7 isn’t changing much, if anything it would’ve hindered the search

[@toxicrica5037]

Not gonna lie they dragged it on the sib call

[@CynNdr]

Wait did I miss something, when did Hecz say they aren’t going?

[@chriscarter4563]

It’s dumb af for hector to not send optic to the ESWC, especially if it’s because optic was chosen as a partnered team. Can’t let pride hold you back.

[@JustSomeGuy009]

The champs point cutoff would be different if the top 4 teams would have just won major 1 and went 6-1. Those points they lost would go to other teams. You can't just take current situation and points and then make a hypothetical...

[@BreakingPointGG]

Think Trei was making more of a point that 1 good stage (qualifiers + LAN) would get you into Champs even if you were abysmal in all the other stages. So the bottom teams don't really have any excuses, and the top teams were easily qualified with just 1 stage.

[@UKStudiosNE]

If anyone from optic needs gone it's still dashy, the one constant with optic for 6 years has been dashy and every time they win they fall off a cliff, dashy has been the only common denominator, you know press a quality smg and if smgs are better on BO 6 then dropping press dumb compared to dropping dashy, I love dashy and ive always wanted him to be part of the second optic dynasty or atleast a top optic team but I don't think he can be part of a dominant optic side

[@Mamhnane]

The team WOULD definitely be SCUMP - FORMAL(AR duo) - SHOTTZY - PRED(Sub duo) but they are not coming back lol

[@kikthepow]

Were they talking about that one caster benson or whatever?

[@rockenamigo5345]

hecz dosent want the players going to saudi because he knows one of them is gonna get offered the bag over there and is gonna leave optic

[@berniewright377]

10 seconds in and I can already feel the incoming Ace yap session. I will be posting follow up comments. Stay tuned

[@BreakingPointGG]

We're waiting, Bernie. What was the Yap-o-meter™ rating?

[@berniewright377]

@@BreakingPointGG ace and daunte had a masterclass yap session first half. Ace wasn’t too bad today but daunte thought he was the main character. Doesn’t even know what 20,000 divided by 4 is 😭😭😭

[@BreakingPointGG]

​@@berniewright377 It was one of the greatest yap offs of all time... OF ALL TIME.

[@jimmer-P]

It's crazy to me that optic only have 2 esports teams, one of them is dead aswell

[@Optic_texas]

Pretty sure hecz just wants optic to focus on champs in texas not world cup

[@titanfighter12]

can't GA omni, done and done

[@KOintheHaven]

Ravens need to drop Felo for Slasher

[@YaBoyGunna27]

Sib always gives a good perspective on mentality and gameplay. He just yaps

[@vvemomusic5543]

Formal, Kenny, Scump, Hydra. Easily a top 3 team.

[@mkwsoxfan]

Once you put shottzy/dashy/pred on another team suddenly the team you named becomes T4 😅

[@Arctioa]

CAN MY G AG HIT A SPRINT

[@joey--j]

Is Ace a billionaire or something, what am i missing? 😅

[@FaZehyped12]

Its ok if optics in loser bracket. They could still win it from losers bracket. Optic does not need a roster change. Its only just one tournament . It happens to the very best . But if optic were to lose to boston then a roster change could be needed but . Well see what happens this weekend. Optic starting losers like 2-5 potentially not quite dead last . They be fine like always.

[@YaBoyGunna27]

If we see snaking at champs I'd die. The crowd better do something about it

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

Wtf is the crowd going to do? Catch a charge and get thrown out of a venue they paid massive money to be at? Over a game they have no money invested in and doesn’t affect them or their careers? Odd thinking

[@ShreyasGaneshs]

They just need to Lock back in the my series they played much better once they get their snd on lock they’ll be back

[@Optic_texas]

No one asking for a team change lol we criticized dashy and he played better now doing the same with pred. There's no "scapegoat"

[@JayS700]

LayG and PreyG are other nicknames I saw that I thought were hilarious for Pred lmao

[@mkwsoxfan]

57:18 does the league need permission to release coms of the matches? I feel like they have gotten in trouble from teams for releasing comms without consent. My point being, couldn't we just go into rokkers comms game 5 and see if standy or lynzz said "im going to smoke A" and then the other smoked mid/B. I feel like we could easily debunk standys weak "language barrier" cop out if we listened to the call outs for 15 seconds

[@BreakingPointGG]

CDL teams get access to all their comms. Some teams use them in content, some don't. We'll take what we can get!

[@seannym95]

Sib sounds like he is trying so hard to sound like Dashy,… its actually so cringe

[@imcracked4045]

Roster needs to be Shotzzy Hydra Dashy Scrap.. The most talented roster in Optics history

[@AlwaysEwok]

No player on that team except hydra has come close to the peak that any player on the optic dynasty did. You may be a newer fan and that’s fine so I’m just letting you know how insane that statement is

[@imcracked4045]

@@AlwaysEwokthe level of skill back then is not what it is today. The roster I proposed undoubtedly has more skill than peak optic dynasty

[@imcracked4045]

@@AlwaysEwok you gotta think.. Half the people that played in the dynasty era werent making nearly as much money and likely worked side jobs to supplement their income. Money attracts talent.. plus now players can afford to play 8-10 hours a day, and only the best of those players stay in the CDL and make it to a top team. Dynasty would even say that they sometimes barely practiced and just mopped kids. Different time sure but the best players nowadays are undoubtedly better than players back then

[@AlwaysEwok]

@@imcracked4045 Yh that’s just not true in the slightest😂 If that was even remotely close to being true then statistically it would show over the years in terms of players individual performance but it doesn’t it’s just some delusional fans who’ve come to this esport over the past 4 or so years that need a reason to say their favourite player is better than than some of those guys.

[@imcracked4045]

@@AlwaysEwok dude ur objectively wrong.. ive been playing cod since Cod 4 and been watching since BOPs 3.. give me an example of a dynasty player that stayed on top in the new era? Scump was mid, formal mid, karma retired, Crim won Mw19 champs but downhill after that. Like what? People/things get better with time. Just how things work

[@zackzeleo8446]

First. Have a good day at work boys

[@BreakingPointGG]

Here's a pepper 🌶

[@zackzeleo8446]

@@BreakingPointGG thank ya

[@hydrocyamic]

Trei had to be talking about Silly or Brice

[@MoppedVAL]

Timestamp?

[@JustSomeGuy009]

Ace is so faded. Lamar doesn't make them win anything. More likely they didn't even get to map 5.

[@JordanMelts]

If we are gonna keep calling priestah a world champ every time we talk about him, then we have to put more blame on him for why Boston sucks.

[@huskerdee1431]

Pred is lowkey mid af

[@BigWeinerTaylor]

I fuck with the show but I feel like yall focus on the vocal 5 people who talk shit and base the whole show on that

[@jefferytodd7017]

Not as big Optic haters than the Flank but not by much.

[@BreakingPointGG]

We'll take it!

[@kontro11a]

Tf is that intro sound????

[@HarleyMcCall]

i thought my headphones were bugging

[@kikthepow]

I feel like y’all overreacting about the scapegoat stuff. I’m an optic fan and I think they all playing bad

[@dylancouch2040]

Here me out SCUMP FORMAL ar duo SHOTZZY PRED smg duo

[@Tumorcoach]

This is a horrible team and smooth 🧠 comment

[@mkwsoxfan]

I think they need someone on the team who's competitive and has a strong drive to improve. These guys will be pure vibes and content, but will never strive to put in more hours to place higher

[@caldonut]

Imagine GAing jetpacks when AW dropped lol. Or GA leaning in seige. Always something. The idea of GAing a core movement system the game is built around is absurd and straight weak. If pros really cared about what's entertaining for the viewer/not cheese, they should have just GA'd crouching altogether. No more snaking, crouch spamming, stair glitching, dropshotting etc, it would be much more entertaining. That's a real gentlemans agreement, lets see who got the gunny. Have to draw the line somewhere. IMO, If you aint gonna GA crouching (which you shouldn't) then dont even think about GA'ing omnimovement. I honestly think some pros are scared, im sure theres a lot of shooters that they couldn't go pro in and changing mechanics so drastically might have some shitting their pants, where as the players who are nasty at everything they touch are excited for something new and something to widen the skillgap. We all know some guys are insane at every shooter they touch, but most have a game or 2 theyre shit at. My buddy is nasty at battlefield and apex but cant play halo for shit, im nasty at the finals😢 and halo but am always getting shit on in pubg. Every other game like cs and val have small changes every but its still the same game, i can see why some pros are scared, as if changing titles every year wasn't scary enough, now it's like you're playing a completely different game and your praying to God that you're good enough to keep your spot on the team and keep getting paid to live your dream

[@mkwsoxfan]

Every new title these "afraid of change" pros are too scared to try new things. They were BEGGING for uplink to be taken out before it was ever even played in AW, and I'm sure there was equal push back for specialists and control when treyarch added those, same with killstreaks, some of these things that have become staples to the comp cod scene the pros were up in arms about before ever trying. Hell I'm sure they were crying about playing hardpoint in Bo2 before they tried it too 😅

[@caldonut]

​@@mkwsoxfan@mkwsoxfan I feel that. It's ridiculous. The whole point of watching "pro's" in anything is to watch the best of the best compete and to watch the thing we are passionate about being pushed to the limit of what's humanly possible and to hopefully see what it looks like at the highest level. That's the entertainment, We want to watch them and say to ourselves holy shit that is a master at work. But unfortunately they have it in their heads that while the world plays a new fresh game. They want to play something entirely different. If they got their way, what an absolute fail that would be

[@mkwsoxfan]

@@caldonut agreed, I also think it's somewhat the games fault too, stronger aim assist, accessibility settings (like auto tac sprint), and all around easier to use guns because they have ranges tuned for warzone have made the natural skill gap less by default. Imagine if back in the day you went top three with an msmc and challenged a 30meter gunfight against an AR, that person would be applying at McDonald's by the end of the scrim, now with giant smg ranges, and stronger aim assist it happens like 3 times per hill which is unfortunate to see

[@Mamhnane]

Scump Formal AR duo haha Scump should not come back on a sub

[@Optic_texas]

These dudes really think optic fans are the ones making them reddit hate threads on themselves ok bud lol

[@austenmendoza4533]

Scrap simp hydra kenny . Or that three and sub out preistah or sib.

[@Envions]

🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶

[@BreakingPointGG]

🌶🌶🌶

[@JohnMane-eo8bd]

Why is Ace always crying about player criticism. Maybe we should all ask this dunce who we can criticize and when.

[@ewan503]

Dont get the poeple who want timestamps. If anything was worth editing out they would. Love the 3hour episodes. You boys actually make glassblowing bearable🤣 💜💜💜

[@BreakingPointGG]

To the next Chihuly 💜

[@imcracked4045]

L take

[@ewan503]

@@BreakingPointGG 🤣🤣 I wish

[@ewan503]

@@imcracked4045 stop being silly

[@BreakingPointGG]

*Chihuly40 then 🤣

[@tommyancharuk9941]

Optic still the best team until they lose on lan …. Simple online cod is bunch of fugaze … sound eq people running everywhere, and people not trying hard enough

[@YaBoyGunna27]

People forget the bottom are still the bottom 8 on lan...

[@tommyancharuk9941]

@@YaBoyGunna27 oh for sure people hating on optic for engagement… yes they playing mid right now but lets be real the worst they gonna get at major 4 is second place 😂

[@mkwsoxfan]

Also their big concern is search online, at the major they were being celebrated for being extremely clutch and now those same people are questioning if they understand basic SnD. To me it's pretty clear, yes they're struggling, but 5 round 11s or whatever against teams DESPERATE for wins most likely running sound EQ until their ears bleed, meanwhile you're a team (optic) who wants to purposely avoid EQ because it negatively effects your practice for the last two LANs. Just wait.. they have things to clearly improve on , but it's exaggerated how dire their situation is

[@tommyancharuk9941]

@@mkwsoxfan search online and on lan is very different! So optic are in a great spot

[@GeoSmuckers]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@scooby969]

Does this ya hoo Ace say anything intelligent at all

[@Hydrator-we2bm]

I am a certified Sib hater

[@kencharsley7458]

Optic and optic fans are so pathetic

[@michaelworkspace]

Optic is just ASS, it’s that simple

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

😂I’m a faze fan and y’all optic haters sound wild. They’re consistently a top4 team who’s competitive every year, is a contender to show up and win any major, always starts in winners bracket for champs, is fun to watch and always has a high potential/ceiling. Ass is just your own projection about how you personally feel about the team because it’s factually wrong, Boston is ass, LAG is ass, Rokkr is ass, LAT/LVL/CRR/MIA are all semi ass, surge is just starting to not be ass. You just make all optic haters impossible to take serious and make yourselves the laughing stock of the community by boldly stating things that are factually wrong as if it’s the truth. ~ respectfully a faze fan

[@GeoSmuckers]

@@CallMeKakarot-nu3lbthey lost 4 in a row and won’t be in winners

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

@@GeoSmuckersI said for champs, they’ll still be in winners for champs and this is what 1 tournament in how many years? When’s the last time they’ve started in losers? Idc about it I’m a faze fan but to be delusional as fk and let your hate for a team take you to lying blatantly with statements like “optic are ass” is just crazy to me because they obviously aren’t ass and if you consider them ass then every pro team is ass because there is not a single team in the CDL that optic has not beaten at least once this year and when it matters at that. Just because they aren’t the number 1 team in the world winning every game consistently doesn’t make them ass and doesn’t make them not one of the best teams in the game. You can almost bet even with optic starting in losers bracket they still make it to Sunday .

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

@@GeoSmuckersno team that’s ass steamrolls Toronto Ultra in a champs finals matchup no team that’s ass 1v3 and 2v4 clutches up against Faze in a game 5 no team that’s ass has a winning record against EVERY TEAM in the league except faze, so how can they be ass when they have a winning record against 10/12 teams in the league

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

@@GeoSmuckersI mean just let it sink in really, 10/12 teams in the pro league of the best teams in the world have a losing record against optic and the only team that doesn’t is literally the greatest trip to ever play cod who’ve had years of playing together with a semi recent world champion they brought in as their 4th. Saying optic is ass is saying every team in the CDL is ass because how can optic have a winning record against not ass teams and them be ass. It doesn’t work the narrative is played out and everyone should just enjoy watching good CoD and give respect to all the players and root for their team respectfully

[@chriscarter4563]

It’s dumb af for hector to not send optic to the ESWC, especially if it’s because optic was chosen as a partnered team. Can’t let pride hold you back.

[@DominoGaming97]

Course you can. They are the biggest esports org in the world.

[@chriscarter4563]

@@DominoGaming97 Lmao they absolutely are NOT anywhere near the biggest esports org in the world brother. Popularity in one nation does not equate to org size. G2, FaZe, Liquid, Navi, cloud 9 are all bigger than optic. The only thing that even puts optic on the list is the NV merger. They literally had to get bought out in order to not go bankrupt.

[@DominoGaming97]

@@chriscarter4563 they are the most popular in this game in which you are talking about, by far. In COD they are the most popular in the world.