REVEALED: SHOCKING Purpose Behind Israel's 'Free' Birthright Trips

[@josephs8]

Offended by everything ashamed of nothing - Israel in a nutshell -

[@priyanka5316]

Very well said!

[@snoopcelev1590]

Why would we be ashamed? Don't like it, don't come

[@Veronica24296]

@@snoopcelev1590 you should be ashamed for stealing another peoples land. If you weren’t born there that not your land!

[@clararose1795]

The Karen of countries.

[@TheFallinhalo]

@@snoopcelev1590 then you are worse then the nazis' the Nazi's were atleast ashamed of what they were doing to the jewish people, many even tried to make a difference. you however? you actively cheer and celebrate youre degeneracy.

[@garethbarlow5278]

At uni in the early eighties two of my friends went on birthright trips. Shortly after both returned to Israel to “do their national service “ which I thought was odd because they were both Aussies. On their return nearly three years later they both bragged about “killing terrorists” which again was odd because there had not been an official conflict during their period of service. I can’t hang with war criminals so I had to cut them out of my life.

[@Ilovemountains-tb2qb]

Jewish Australians are the most hard core Zionists.

[@middleagebrotips3454]

Sounds like they "defended" settlers from the indigenous people, which happened on the regular with no reporting.

[@fuzzyschwartz]

Where did the replies go?

[@kobicooper8762]

Cool story bruh. Birthright began in 1999 and there was a war with the PLO in Lebanon from 1982-1985 and the first intifada erupted in 1987 but hey you are an expert in Middle Eastern history from a KZbin video. Congrats.

[@khaderlander2429]

​@@kobicooper8762 doing the dirty work for America, let's not forget a bit of land grabbing, Israel is offended of everything and ashamed of nothing. Britain created this colonial settlers, reason why, because the British wanted to create their little ulster unionist party called Israel in the heart of Palestine, in the same way they did in Northern Ireland to displace the natives, they boasted about it, how their crafty handy work came to fruition in both places. What does Israel, Britain and United States of America have in common, they are all settler colonisers, Israel is settler colonial project in Palestine, Britain is a settler colonial project in Northern Ireland, United States is settler colonial project in indigenous Indian lands in that region. Israeli settlers always show crocodile tears, playing the victim, while stealing someone’s home. This is what they say, “If I don’t steal your home, someone else will steal it,” was the answer given by an Israeli settler to Muna al-Kurd, a young Palestinian woman who accused him of stealing her home in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood in the occupied East Jerusalem. The settler replies in a thick US accent: “Yes, but if I go, you don’t go back, so what’s the problem? Why are you yelling at me?” The response provoked al-Kurd, who told him “You are stealing my house!” “If I don’t steal it, someone else will steal it,” Jacob answers. “So why are you yelling at me?” “No one is allowed to steal my home!” al-Kurd shouts.

[@samelgilany3]

After witnessing this war unfold, my views on Islam and Israel have definitely taken a turn. It's become clear to me who the real bad guys are in this situation.

[@bsahmed1]

There was peace between Muslims, Christians and Jews living in Palestine until 1917, when colonial settlers from Europe invaded the country, displaced and dispossessed the indigenous inhabitants, and stole their land. It accelerated to a massive scale during late 1947 especially in the first half of 1948. The first village to be fully cleaned was the village of Qisarya, which had 1500 inhabitants, was on February 15, 1948. The peak of the massacres happened on April 9, 1948, during which 720,000 Palestinians out of the 900,000 who lived in the territories that became Israel fled or were expelled from their homes. Then some ill-equipped and ill-armed Arab armies came to the rescue of the Palestinians, but by the time they arrived in mid May, 1948 it was already late. They were defeated by the superior Israeli army in their so called war of independence on May 15, 1948. The majority of the native Palestinian inhabitants have thus become refugees, some internally in the west bank and Gaza and others outside their country especially in the surrounding countries. The Israeli government soon after passed a law preventing the refugees from coming back to their villages and towns which were subsequently demolished. The answer is very clear and everybody should support it. One country from the river to the sea with the two peoples living together in a democratic system is the only solution. Such unitary binational state is advocated by several former Zionists and current historians including Miko Peled, Ilan Pappe, Gabor Mate, Norman Finkelstein, Barnaby Raine and others and supported by the majority of the Arab population of Palestine. The imperial colonial Zionist outpost is not working and it would NEVER work.

[@ComradeFromRhody401]

💯

[@adamesd3699]

⁠@@bsahmed1That was my view also, that it should be one democratic country with strong minority rights. Some Israelis would accept this and most Palestinians as well (the Palestinians have always been in favor of a unified state). But a lot of the settlers are religious lunatics, who really do want to ethically cleanse the whole of Palestine.

[@sabin97]

you're over 75 years late. but it's better late than never. so i gave you a like. i'm in a generous mood today.

[@Hardwaregeekx]

@@adamesd3699 The Palestinians supported the idea of a unified state? Do you have something that points to that conclusion? I mean if I were a Palestinian I would probably wouldn't want to live with the Zionists who killed my friends and relatives and forced me and my people off their land. I too think a single state is the most viable solution. Its just hard to believe that the Palestinians would be that forgiving.

[@coder001]

18-26 age range for the free birthright, how convenient for the military 🙄 Why would age matter if it was about religion or finding connection to ones land.

[@thementribe]

Right

[@ЗухраЧанышева-у4о]

This is exactly what I thought when heard about the age range😄 They are certainly interested in cannon fodder.

[@coder001]

@@ЗухраЧанышева-у4о some people even say they play favorites on who to send to the front lines ...

[@ArchesBro]

Ill push back, that is an ideal age where someone is the most mobile, most likely to be influenced and move there. Not necessarily specific to military service. At 18 a person has the most economic value as well, working age; ready to have kids. They dont suck up resources like a baby or an elderly person.

[@coder001]

@@ArchesBro At 18 I disagree on "the most economic value", actually at 18 you have practically no work experience. Most mobile and influenced is true but you can't live without money you need a job that's where military comes into the picture, where you get notoriety of being in the military and some food and money to go along with it oh and being considered heroic to fight for your land and country. And who do you fight, well to continue the oppression and occupation and perhaps for future expansion of jewish supremacy. Cause as we're told God's given all that land to the chosen people. mhm.

[@khubza8999]

She was GREAT--articulate, insightful, courageous, humane, proud of her Jewish roots, and a staunch defender of just treatment for Palestinians. Really learned a lot from this conversation.

[@allprofits3092]

"I have never felt more at home stealing a home and living on stolen land"

[@ramongonzalezdiaz9511]

Thank you young lady for saying what so many people think......

[@heavingearth9694]

As an arab, i urge the media to keep telling us about jewish people who care for the palestinian cause. this is important and crucial and our next generations need to know this. Please don’t underestimate it!

[@ionnanskilliorus6877]

Norm's got a competitor for the top spot. We need more like Katie, she nails it!

[@sarooshmansoor459]

No need to pit them against each other, think the Palestinians need all the eloquent voices they can get after years of being ignored.

[@iggyboo]

And guess who probably pays for those trips ultimately, your tax dollars

[@kevinceely1604]

Tax dollars and money collected by the practical monopolies you have to do business with in the US in order to get your necessities like food, etc.

[@kobicooper8762]

It literally says in the beginning of the video who funds the trip. Nice try.

[@iggyboo]

@@kobicooper8762 and then if you watch the video you find the Isreali government also contributes to the trips and who funds the Israeli government? ... US tax dollars. Nice try!

[@chambermuses7802]

Thank you, Katherine, for your eloquent insights, especially your vital witness regarding the crucial distinction between the religious-spiritual dimension and the ethno-nationalist project that is so ruthlessly conflated and exploited, and for your focus on the machinations around demographic issues ("seducing young people to be used... to join the army, make babies") in fabricating a "democratic" majority: a key element in the manifold project of ethnic cleansing. Your contribution in exposing the "slight-of-hand", the brainwashing, the dehumanizing rhetoric, the abuse of religion and history to mask the reality, is invaluable. So grateful to you and Simone Zimmerman (in the "Israelism" film) for your courage, intelligence, grace and beauty, in offering the world hope and vision beyond the brutal tribalism.

[@kamlasayeen]

God bless brace people like her who speak out honestly and with critical reasoning.

[@arsena1816]

I wonder why it's not offered to non Ashkinazi Jews? Hmm....

[@checo8187]

Because they are not of American or British descent 😂

[@larisaagishtein1937]

I have a huge news for you- over 50% of American Jews are not Ashkenazi. And they are coming to birthright tours in even bigger numbers

[@kobicooper8762]

Um a little research... Like one minute of it. The clear majority of Jews outside of Israel are Ashkenazi (in Israel they are not the majority). The trip however has run from over 50 countries and has included many non Ashkenazi people.

[@kobicooper8762]

@@larisaagishtein1937 no 80-85% of Jews in America - and I'm assuming you mean the US - are Ashkenazi

[@antoniosdimoulas3566]

Beautiful girl, with more beautiful and pure noble soul. 🫶 FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸✌️

[@geometerfpv2804]

She dodged the queer question. People just get too deep into these viewpoints, and it begins to become silly. It is absolutely true that a significant number of palestinians believe Israel should be completely removed...they say it openly on record. So, that is dishonest as well. People look at people of Palestinian decent who live in the west and are "queer organizers"...that is not the same. I have some Palestinian friends. They truly believe some extreme stuff. Sad this woman has convinced herself otherwise. Balance is the way.

[@DonaldTurner]

Thank you James and Katie!

[@llamalinguist3250]

I'm shocked all the comments here support her 100%. In this interview, she gives no real evidence to support her claims, just wild accusations. She just sounds like your average university-brainwashed young adult. The other comments are more convincing than this whole interview. Not impressed with this new direction, Breaking Points.

[@donman9853]

Glad some truth is now being spoken

[@ahmadjamal1152]

Thank you for being the voice of humanity and truth

[@LongDefiant]

Nobody said Fascism wasn't seductive.

[@weedsgaming420]

yeah I lost interest when she was talking about how she found her faith in a state that literally has no archaeological evidence of Israel

[@carolinespigelski8888]

Brilliant!!! thank you courage, your unlearing and your teaching🙏💖

[@jjaber]

Your voice as a Jewish woman is so important. Thank you so much for being brave and speaking up for humanity and basic human rights.

[@lawrencemullin2643]

The Golan Heights is not part of Israel; it is occupied territory.

[@christianheyn]

WOOW!Thank you both! I learned a lot. I've been observing Palestine/Israel for decades. As a kid very much supportive of israel. But once I saw through the propaganda, I am appalled what is being done to Palestinians. The brutality and sadism inherent in all operations against them is making my blood boil! I have a strong sense of justice and Zionist Israelis are extremely unjust, arrogant people. My heroes are Ilan Pappe, Norm Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Miko Peled, and, of course, Gideon Levy, Amira Haas. Katherine, you're very smart and eloquent! Love your well informed view. You're also beautiful, if I might add. ))) And interesting that you're into sexual/ political issues. Very nice to meet you here. I'll be checking your channels. Take care!❤😊

[@binmasuo]

God blessed you for the knowledge you shared. 🙏 ❤

[@Luke1959]

A brave young woman, much respect for you my dear🙏

[@morallycorruptmaleficentti1194]

Not all Jews are horrible people just like not all Palestinians are terrorists or horrible people. The closer we get to that understanding, the more peace will have with one another. I really hope Israel relaxes a bit bc a ton of civilians are dying.

[@azz620]

palestinians are not terrorists, they are resistants. Israel is the terrorist state

[@DT-xz7hb]

Great interview!! She is very much worth listening to.

[@theuglykwan]

How was the Israeli govt able to fund the stipend?

[@samielkhayri9272]

I have been following Katie for a while now. She is awesome and I highly recommend that people follow her.

[@breakaway-vl1jq]

I love how comments critical of Israel are getting removed by KZbin.

[@qmuharibdds8377]

much respect to that lady. and thank you for this report

[@declanpainter2832]

Absolutely disgusting, pure evil. Any thing for nothing,

[@mikecoulson1]

I'm disappointed by BP. It used to feel like impartial journalism, but now it's just liberal news. This isn't even shocking. It's a free trip called "birthright".

[@greendude27]

what a brave and morally clear lady! she gives me hope!

[@bernaguvenc4029]

It was a good interview and the only thing that struck me was, when became of age, the father took the role and did her bat mitzvah, ie becoming jewish wheras, her mom was of another religion...perhaps some people don't know, it is the mother's religion that takes priority in a marriage of different religions. I happened to be such but never pushed any of my children for a choice. My argument was, they can decide which when they're adults. I respect but don't follow any religion myself and best thing parents can do is teach their children respect, equality and love one another. The rest is life...I despise politics mixed with religion because all wars began with putting one above the other as far as religion is concerned....

[@silverskid]

Excellent & informative interview. Thanks.

[@gnomariana]

So it REALLY is like a cult. 🤔

[@isamkamel]

Very insightful: thank YOU Katie Bogen!

[@Mabuhay-qk4yj]

Joy?? Unsafe, unethical, merciless, etc etc. How joyful.

[@aureliotower1up]

In the modern age religion has no place on the international political stage. Time for the absolute separation of church/temple and state. Time for the world to grow up.

[@shamanahaboolist]

Katie is so intelligent and engaging. Easy on the eye too ☺.

[@TheKimels]

There are 7 million Jews and 7 million Palestinians in Israel/Palestine, both are there to stay. You can't be pro Palestine without being pro Israel and you can't be pro Israel without being pro Palestine !!! Peace is the only way 🇵🇸🇮🇱☮️💜🙏

[@XkilitX]

This sounds wrong…. They’re not Israelites they’re American.

[@Davenport4230]

And polish and Russian and German and Ukrainian

[@Thisthat1234]

Who would have thought Breaking Points would prioritize coverage on Israel/Palestine to this degree. It’s all they talk about

[@slappyfun]

Love this host! His content is very illuminating. Thank you!!

[@terries1825]

I’d like to know who her professors were on the 4 topics she studied before her trip to Israel.

[@kazekagekid]

It’s very obviously about cementing loyalty to the state of Israel, and it always has been. Don’t let people lie to you about such obvious things.

[@amania9254]

Courageous lady 🥲

[@EvolvedHumanity]

Wow! This is a very good interview! Very informative. Thank you both for your great work and courage.

[@oryxthetakenking6495]

Once the trip is finished ,they're sent straight to the IDF .

[@Zotosen]

Thank you for presenting such an eloquent and important perspective of this tragic humanitarian catastrophe.

[@Cisfordelta]

Great interview.

[@nickkerrsonofstevekerr8175]

Ethen would not have a chance with Ela without these Aliyah programs. Max said it's a passport inter meeting course event for young Judes and then love is ra even more.

[@I_Lemaire]

Lol don't do Ethan like that...

[@richardkuda321]

Everyone must watch this. My respect from India

[@alecisback1]

I went on the trip 6 years ago. We literally went on hikes, ate at restaurants and walked around Jerusalem and a few other places. It depends on the organizer I guess.

[@pztfootball8719]

How beautiful the land is is propaganda within itself. You’re having fun with your friends for really cheap and if you’re a zionist you might be validated through “how much fun you had in israel”

[@skontheroad]

No, it depends on who you are speaking to afterwards. There is not a "slight of hand" by a tour guide telling one to look out of the right side of the window.

[@tuffytoys9707]

$ And Supporting Racism, apartheid, Oppression, Crimes against Humanity etc.

[@spaghelle]

That was exactly my experience as well. We also got to meet other people other than Jews; we met Israeli Palestinians and Bedouins who had small businesses in the Negev desert.

[@alecisback1]

@@skontheroad our “tour guide” never redirected any of us. Obviously 6 years ago there wasn’t a massive genocide happening like there is now, but i still think the birthright trips are cool

[@Tobyyy24]

Why can’t the Palestinians just leave. They have no homeland.

[@t..4221]

An eye opener and jerk into reality of note. If only each person traveling to Israel spent 2 days in Palestine, the world sympathy would shift off axis

[@sultanofmultan2012]

Breaking points has my money and support

[@justatiger6268]

Imagine a bunch of white Germans going to Namibia to "the land Jesus promised them" where they can find their inner Aryan and connect with their true pure-blooded roots.

[@mjxsh3lm]

Katie is so lovely and courageous

[@a.t8097]

If you get a product for free, you're the product

[@krystabelle36]

Doxxing isnt anti semitism

[@PeaceTrainUSA-1000]

Good to hear from non-Zionist Jews.

[@kanders7391]

Its not a birthright trip unless they go to Iraq where the Hebrews actually came from.

[@alphabong-w3h]

Just the simple premise that your people are God's favorites puts you on track in a one-sided story.

[@calvintichaonamantsebo9849]

What is happening is not right. 😠😠😠😠

[@raakbas1]

A beautiful Jewish woman❤

[@joshwells4280]

Hilarious to watch the intellectual/academic class eat each other for a change...

[@timwitry7001]

What a great interview. Her summary at the end... "Projection"... is on the money.

[@sambou6286]

Great Work guys🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@kraaronson]

Lol how is this "revealed"? Every American semi-Jew I've spoken to (including myself) knows that this is the suffer-through-the-timeshare-thing of international travel.

[@artiststevens]

He’s super uncomfortable at times 😅

[@thomasrhodes5013]

I went to Israel three times in the early 1990's. I found the Jewish people rude and condescending. Maybe because I am NOT Jewish, no?

[@Missginalove]

she is super smart and classy

[@shaunmiller7370]

Brilliant lady

[@reza4477]

Criminals are living in this country. World knows

[@debbiw4382]

Anything that has "birthright" in its title is already a redflag.

[@doughnut68]

We Muslims and Christians also have right to claim the holy land and we will

[@TRUMPisAPedophile]

While the natives are kept in cages away from public view

[@hkh5199]

My grandmother was expelled from Jerusalem in 1967, where she walked with her 5 children from there to the Jordanian capital. She left her home, her olive and orange trees, and took her key with her, which she wears on her neck to this day. I’ve never seen Jerusalem despite all 4 of my grandparents being from there. I’m not allowed entry. When my grandmother applied for entry through the Israeli embassy, she got rejected. How strange that American new Yorkers with no ties to Palestine can enter, whereas my grandmother - who was born there, lived there, and birthed 5 children there cannot.

[@jfryer485]

That is not normal. But we know from 1948 to 1967 that many Jews had their land stolen and given to Muslims. We also know many Muslims did stay in the West Bank and Jerusalem. One Muslim recently turned down an offer of 13 million dollars for his shop in Jerusalem.

[@edelgyn2699]

My grandfather left his small holding outside Haifa in 1947, he was Arab Jewish and left because (after fighting for the British in WW2) he didn't want to fight his neighbours at the behest of European Zionist. He too had a key... My great uncle Sami returned to what was then Israel after '67, he brought back some oranges for my mother to taste. He told them everything had changed and realistically there was no chance of returning for that generation and property had been occupied by 'foreigners'. I find it odd that someone born in the USA of mixed European heritage, but whose father's grandfather was once Torah observant is allowed to affirm their 'Jewishness' and claim Israeli citizenship. It is more surprising that such a person would deny people having Palestinian-born grandparents the same 'rights' they claim. I won't return to Israel-Palestine until there is a state where all people enjoy equal rights. One day...

[@jfryer485]

@@edelgyn2699 Equal rights? Depends on what you mean by equal rights. Most countries have different levels of people and so the rights in theory being equal are anything but in practice. There is always some movement but for most they remain where they started. In England you have equal rights. But are the ruling class equal with the working class or those struggling without work. Also the upper class probably own immense tracts of land so a person in this group not working will still get in a year possibly what a working man gets in a lifetime. Israel is a young country where rights are arguably more equal even than England therefore. Excluding the land captured in the 1967 war, people do have equal rights and it is well known that one group of non-jews actually is succeeding three times better than Jews. The Arabs were under Martial Law for many years for security reasons. They earned their equality by adopting life in Israel. The situation in what is referred to as occupied land is more complex. In Gaza, the Israelis pulled out giving land for peace. In this 365 square kilometres of prime sea front land, the 99.9 per cent ethnically pure Muslims had the chance to develop their own country living in peace with Israel that gave them the land. As we know they want the whole of Israel for an equally 99.9 per cent Muslim society. This is nonsense but evidently not nonsense to many countries some of which already know about Muslim extremism. Hence we have Civil War today where the outcome is unclear. What I find strange is how all the world seems to imagine they have aright to impose their ideas on the conflict either to the benefit of Muslims gaining Israël or the Jews adopting a two state solution or a thousand other scenarios. Nobody it seems want to leave a nation to sort out its own internal issues. A newly elected MP says this is for Gaza. So a tin pot politician representing a few thousand Muslims in a small English town thinks his victory is for Gaza. What if by reciprocal means the nation of Israel says it wants Jews to have equal rights there. They dont of course as a nation want any input into this small town so why does a small town think they can impose their unique solution to Israel when a million other small towns probably might then want to impose their million different solutions. We live in a mad mad mad world. Meanwhile this is what the Gazans gave up for rubble, starvation and possible oblivion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apiymq2BptySotEsi=ZYxzCWoWQunYnLVN The largest open air prison

[@sabrinalastname9719]

An absolute disgrace 😤

[@monkeybusinessasusuall5467]

Grow up, move on.

[@tonytooshort]

I always found it so disgusting that we pretend as if Israel doing these cute little 'birthright trips' to complete foreigners of that land, yet having an extremely strict policy of *zero right of return* for any Palestinian expelled since the 1948 Nakba was somehow normal, acceptable, and not at all absolutely atrocious. 😒

[@benketengu]

It’s worse, under the three generational anyone palestinian who has a house that they inherited automatically loses it and it goes to the hands of the Israeli state if they’re in the wrong part of Jerusalem and if there’s a third generation.

[@mfre897]

" Right to return" to where your great grandmother slums where sewer was running on the streets? Or slums where a bathroom is a hole in the ground and shower a cold water hose? Are Gaza millionairs, billionairs will exchsnge luxery for stinky places. NO. So stupid.

[@John-bravooo]

Um Israel is a Jewish state. Why would Arabs who tried to genocide the Jews be allowed to visit? Israeli Jews are banned from Iraq, Iran, Syria etc even though their ancestors were evicted from these lands. And then these Arabs move to the West to tell us how evil the Jews are.

[@jfryer485]

It might be disgusting but if you look at places abroad there is increasing problems from multi culture. Even with this draconian policy we see currently a civil war between Jews and Muslims who won’t live in peace.

[@gansitomarinela]

Exactly 💯

[@lisalisa1656]

I am an Ashkenazi jew by my mom with a Christian dad. These birth right trips is to encourage jews to move there and multiply and replace the arabs. My mom tried to get me to go. Been pro Palestinian since I was a young teen and ended up marrying an arab Muslim she disowned me.

[@GrumpX]

Wow. The stories you must have.

[@stooney]

Based

[@placerdemaio]

forgive your mother, she has no chance against that mafia that are controlling israel and with propaganda with psychology the machine over years and years, very few can stand, please think about it.

[@chambermuses7802]

@@stooney I suspect you meant "biased", but Lisa's comment was in fact "based" on a lifetime of real experience.

[@chambermuses7802]

Bless you for this comment, Lisa. There are so many stories of people transcending the "toxic boxes" they are expected or even forced to inhabit. People like you, Katherine and Simone Zimmerman are such precious witnesses to the possibility of communion, mercy and justice. Bless your whole "Abrahamic" family, and all who realize that Jews, Christians and Muslims are brothers and sisters.

[@RandySpycyWeinr]

*_Imagine the crimes they've gotten away with before the internet._*

[@Dickie2702]

All of which you can discover for yourself if you read a few books. Trust me Hamas have nothing on the Jewish militia.

[@realolivertwisted]

@@Dickie2702 can you recommend some using emojis or charades 🤣 bc they’ll delete your comment. You can also put spaces & periods between letters but depending on the books, they still might delete it and it’ll probably definitely be hidden/shadowbanned. 🫠

[@RandySpycyWeinr]

@Dickie2702 You think that when it comes to information dissemination, books are comparable to the internet? Hamas did a terrible thing, terrorism is unacceptable agreed.

[@anonymous36247]

Look, there is a reason they target teenagers to go. Back in the 90s, I was subject to all the ads and everything, but I was less wealthy than the other families at the synagogue and my mother isn't Jewish. I already didn't feel a strong connection to Israel and thought the language surrounding zionism was a lil strange. "Birthright" wasn't a word that made a lot of sense to me. I was a Jewish AMERICAN. Had I been a lil more religious, a lil more right wing, or had I faced a lil more alienation growing up, I might have been fooled. Teenagers had absolutely no clue back then before the second intifada when this trip started

[@RandySpycyWeinr]

@anonymous36247 I appreciate your experience. I'm from Puerto Rico, grew up in a christian home. To me it was so odd how special jewish people are and how god protects Israel from all the demons and bad people who want to destroy it.

[@barblc3202]

I went to Israel in 1992 on one of the Ulpan programs (before I was adequately informed about the settler-colonialist project there), and some of the field trips they took us on were clearly pro-settler/anti-Palestinian propaganda. I was alert enough to see the bias in these things. I have never been back there since and will not go back until Palestinians are free.

[@lgroots8691]

And nobody cares….

[@America_1st_the.rest.r_last]

​@@lgroots8691 cope. It's being freed as we speak loser

[@saeedmustapha1334]

​​@lgroots8691 people like you are the animals. And yes, billions niw know the truth and do care. Zionesm is dead.

[@babbyBoy]

it's just sad that many people can't see that 😢

[@Pomegranate_David]

​@@lgroots8691Many people DO care.

[@StephSunshineArtistry]

I never knew about birthright when I was the age to go. But maybe 10 years ago, after I was already educated enough to be pro-Palestine, I met another Jew who was pro-Palestine and I asked her how she figured out that what we were taught was lies. She said she went on birthright and they took them on a tour bus to a settlement in the West Bank. At some point in the trip they told everyone to close their curtains because they were almost there and didn't want to ruin the surprise. But she was suspicious and peeked out the curtain, only to see Palestinians being held up at a checkpoint. And that's when she realized something wasn't right. Unfortunately my younger siblings went on birthright and had no such suspicions, only got further brainwashed. I guess the odds are in the Zionists' favor.

[@kobicooper8762]

Nice story but Birthright does not go to any of the settlements apart from sometimes staying at a guest house on one near the Dead Sea in the middle of nowhere (not near any checkpoints). But more than likely happened is that upon coming to Jerusalem, where there are checkpoints, the guide told them to close their curtains so that their first view of the city would be a monumental one from on top of the mountain. It had absolutely nothing to do with the checkpoint on the way into Jerusalem.

[@StephSunshineArtistry]

@@kobicooper8762 I'm not sure what is your point. Even if I misremembered a detail of what she told me 10 years ago, the point remains the same. She first became aware of the possibility of deceit by daring to peek behind a closed curtain. But I'm not sure how you know everything that birthright does or doesn't do as the trips are different, and certainly have changed over time.

[@kobicooper8762]

@@StephSunshineArtistry I've literally been a tour guide in Israel for 16 years and have guided over 50 Birthright trips (and many other kind of trips for people of diverse backgrounds). Closing the shades before arriving to Jerusalem has nothing to do with trying to hide anything apart from not seeing the view quite yet until we arrive to the top of the mountain. There's a special Jewish blessing done on seeing or doing things for the first time and arriving in Jerusalem is one of them, so it's nice to be able to do it all together with a special welcome ceremony. The shtick is done with many different groups that come to Israel, not just Birthright, and is done from the western approach as well where there are no checkpoints to "cover up." This is the first time I've ever heard someone interpret that in this way which makes it pretty clear that she was trying to read something into it that wasn't there.

[@meinbherpieg4723]

@oper8762 "I've literally been a tour guide in Israel for 16 years and have guided over 50 Birthright trips" Well now you're just not credible lol.

[@kobicooper8762]

@@meinbherpieg4723 so somebody who went on one trip has more credibility to you than someone who has worked with the program for years and led 50 trips, been through all the various trainings and seminars, knows all the goals, funding, best practices, rules and requirements, not to mention is an expert in the actual country - it's geography, history, politics, etc. That makes tons of sense. You might, just might, have a problem with confirmation bias that you might want to look at.

[@m0korvac]

Let me guess...The American Tax Payer is somehow paying for this to?

[@khubza8999]

LOL!!!

[@TerryTappArt]

Hell, be glad they don't put a chain around our necks and make us lick the sand off their shoes.

[@IamAnew]

Guaranteed.

[@MrWiseGuy322]

LOL "Some how" the payment records are there dummy... its a fact they are.

[@TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect]

In a way yes.. because we are basiclaly the sponsor of israel.. israel does not export anything of value. Most of their money is coming from foreign aid… and we are the biggest sponsor of that foreign aid.. so yea we pay for zionist kids to have vacations.. but cant pay for our kids to have quality food

[@jay23cr]

That these people are entitled with a ‘birthright’ while the natives are exterminated and expelled to make room for them is just obscene and amoral

[@ellengran6814]

Thou shalt not steal or lie. Every religious person knows this. Zionism has nothing to do with religion, it's just another word for colonialism.

[@sabin97]

@@ellengran6814 it's with the religion that calls them "the chosen race"......that's why they feel entitled to land that isnt theirs and see others as somehow less than human.

[@user-xh5wj4tw8k]

natives isn't the right word

[@ponyguy99]

Like it or not, Israel is the indigenous home of the Jewish people.

[@richardphilbert9767]

@@ponyguy99 Why is it illegal to have a DNA test done in Israel? These so called Jews in Israel are polish, Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans from the caucus mountains who have no rights to Palestinian lands.

[@B_Bodziak]

This is to encourage people to move and take people's homes.

[@tomez8143]

Wtf 😆

[@mischevious]

@@tomez8143Your illegal settlers are extremely violent and always supported in their violence by ID F.

[@snarf0596]

That's tru, I read a report saying over 100k Americans that have Jewish decent move to Isreal as settlers and take Palestinian homes. I dont remember the exact number but it was over 100k

[@ToyJesusLovesTequilla]

@@tomez8143 Basically yeah, Israel is built on occupied land

[@tomez8143]

You think you read a report? You will have to be more convincing than that 😉

[@abdulmw]

Last settler-colonialist project in the world. The one before that was South Africa Apartheid regime. I am happy for this young lady and others who rejected the brain washing.

[@garymacek4904]

Yes, and Muslims provide free trips to Mecca for Muslims from all over the world for free. Isn’t this the same thing ? Also, Muslims have invaded and displaced many indigenous people from all over the world. They have no right to demand that Israelis vacate “Palestine” unless they are willing to vacate Constantinople, Cypress, North Africa, Egypt, India, Bosnia and many other places.

[@doubleeagleaudio]

Who could have ever thought this trip would be propaganda?! 🙄🤣

[@richardjennings7050]

No thanks Israhell

[@OddWoz]

Only true naive idiots didn’t realize it.

[@alcalshel]

I think more like brainwash programs.

[@chrisjbarton]

Your emojis are spot on.

[@illadinr]

The name itself is propaganda

[@Elnegro19751]

Imagine not being from a land where you can visit for free but the actual people who the land belongs to can’t leave or visit.

[@adriancollette7010]

Dont have to imagine. Israel is real and twisted.

[@garymacek4904]

Yes, and Muslims provide free trips to Mecca for Muslims from all over the world for free. Isn’t this the same thing ? Also, Muslims have invaded and displaced many indigenous people from all over the world. They have no right to demand that Israelis vacate “Palestine” unless they are willing to vacate Constantinople, Cypress, North Africa, Egypt, India, Bosnia and many other places.

[@Dovil3334]

Thank you so much Katherine Bogen for your insight. It does take some courage to stand against the Zionists when you are jewish yourself. We definitely need your voice in this fight!

[@dressleradam]

She's also against US nationalism

[@johnbanach3875]

I'm very impressed with her, but there are also countless other Jews standing against Zionism and for the rights of Palestinians.

[@ponyguy99]

@@johnbanach3875 I’m sorry she doesn’t understand that Zionism is the return of the Jews to their homeland. You might disagree with the leaders, it’s government, but to deny the Jews the right of returning to Israel is nothing more than Antisemitism. There are some Jews who are antisemitic. They dislike Israel and probably being born Jewish. It’s sad!

[@TheCastedone]

What is US nationalism?​@@dressleradam

[@butterflypooo]

I always thought that Birthright was weird, bc no other oppressed people have a version of that. It’s almost like this idea that the Jewish people are “special” or only their oppression is “real”. For birthright to be legitimate, then it should be true for other racially oppressed groups too.

[@BrianSzymczak-d2n]

No to mention where’s the palestinian form of the birthright trip that Jews today have? Despite the Palestinians living there for thousands of years

[@butterflypooo]

@@BrianSzymczak-d2n 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯. It’s so twisted and messed up.

[@bazjones5282]

Have you been under a rock? "Birthright" is used all over the world in land disputes. FYI Palestinians used it also.

[@cubajonesie]

She's an excellent ambassador and example of the differences between Judaism and Zionism.

[@Libbathegreat]

When I was in college, a lot of friends try to recruit me for Birthright. I never went because I saw the effect it had on them. The trip markets Israel as basically adult Disneyland for Jews. These friends were all secular Jews, and it affected them profoundly, being young and not really understanding their place in the world (like most young people). When they came back, it was almost like they'd joined a cult. After college, several of them made aliyah. Most came back to the US after a few years, totally disillusioned with the whole thing. A few are still there and are more crazed than ever.

[@Tribuneoftheplebs]

What disillusions them? I bet its the feeling of insecurity and unsafety for themselves and not the suffering of the Palestinians that makes them go back to America

[@tragicallymalicious1]

​@@Tribuneoftheplebstheir presence is what causes their insecurity, so leaving is a logical conclusion

[@Libbathegreat]

@@Tribuneoftheplebs It varied from person to person, but none of the people I spoke with cited safety as a major concern. It was a few years after the 2nd Intifada and the Lebanon war when most of them went and they were mostly in and around Tel Aviv. Some went to Jerusalem or Haifa and and they might have a different view on that but I've lost touch with them. Cost of living was something everyone struggled with. Others, after living there for a time, said that while there were some cool people, they found _most_ Israelis insufferable - arrogant, snobbish, appearance obsessed, hyper-materialistic, etc. That said, I now live in a city in a different Mediterranean country and it's not much different here. One of my friends that's visited me here says it's more pronounced in Tel Aviv, but I've never been there so can't compare. A few were turned off by the increasingly hardline politics in the country. The guy I had the most in-depth conversations with had some interesting things to say about the culture in Tel Aviv, which he described as "schizophrenic". On the surface, people appeared fairly liberal but anytime the Palestinians were mentioned, it was always in dehumanizing terms. He happens to be a Moroccan Jew and his father's side of the family is mostly Muslim, so that was pretty unsettling to him. Other than that, you're correct, the Palestinian issue and apartheid didn't really register with most of them. In Tel Aviv, at least, that seems to be out-of-sight-out-of-mind, even though it's barely an hour away.

[@I_Lemaire]

​@@LibbathegreatBro, everywhere is materislistic but it is important to fight for your homeland.

[@Libbathegreat]

@@I_Lemaire I agree, that's why I support the Palestinians.

[@johnwashington9292]

I am halfway through “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel” by Max Blumenthal and strongly advise all others to purchase it. This will give you a realistic look at the national mindset that is creating such unimaginable cruelty to Palestinians.

[@IAT1964]

The Turks did exactly the same in the early 20th century, either identify as a turk or be kicked out and killed from your ancestral lands. Consequence was the Armenian and Greek genocides. If I remember correctly, the Kurds were also slaughtered. The historical parallels are eerie.

[@DistrustHumanz]

Relatively few Americans read. It will have to be turned into a movie.

[@shanemac1646]

Great book!

[@fuzzyschwartz]

Surprised your comment hasn't been removed.

[@faywarnock2311]

Zionist indoctrination will dampen the morality and consciousness of those who fall prey to it

[@harrypitt]

What an eloquent and well-spoken woman. The nod to eugenics vis-a-vis the age requirement is a real eye-opener. Shadows of the Lebensborn program

[@Tempered-ue4vo]

Great interview. Thank you Katherine Bogen for sharing your views and experience. Thank you for standing against genocide and actively promoting humanity and justice.