Mother Aniseya FUSING with Mae? The Acolyte Episode 7 Review and Reaction

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THE ACOLYTE finally reveals what happened on Brendock from the Jedi perspective - with Sol, Indara, Kelnacca and Torbin quesitoning the motives behind Mother Aniseya and her coven. With Mae and Osha's increasingly being hinted at being one person split into two - what is the significance of this? And what was Mother Aniseya trying to do with her powers? Join Maude Garrett, Brandon Barrick, and Tom Michelsen as they discuss.
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00:00 - Intro
3:43 - Episode Recap
17:52 - Did Indara KILL The Witches?
23:20 - Recap Continued
27:07 - Favorite Moments
31:28 - Aniseya and her Coven's Powers
36:11 - Significance of Osha and Mae being split?
43:02 - How much did the vergence help with life?
45:29 - Was Aniseya also going to dust Osha?
47:30 - What was that generator all about?
49:57 - Relationship between Indara and Sol?
53:44 - How much does Vinestra know?
56:10 - A-list Aliens
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[@ayezoop884]

Seeing Torbin spin the light saber all helicopter like to deflect the arrows was my favorite part

[@craignickelson9633]

Mine too

[@ayezoop884]

@@craignickelson9633 I think what makes it so cool, is that you have to be so skilled to do that without cutting off your own hand

[@CharlieMills-ky2wk]

You mean Tommen.... JEDI PADAWAN...TOMMEN. "Fell" out of that window into lightsaber greatness!

[@ayezoop884]

@@CharlieMills-ky2wk that’s now Master ToeMan to you Mr.

[@turonwhitfield7917]

Soriso, please correct my spelling ,but bka oby wan ,special,,,but was super nice literally deflected every arrow ,,he said his mind was fortified at that point,,lmao,but he must have became really powerful to be suspended in orbit with and invisible forcefield around em when I got older as a master,that was very impressive & cool as hell now I never seen that before, suspension in air Indian style ,,,different

[@maiaspen307]

“Torbin, literally the worst Padawan I’ve ever seen in my life” 😂 I’m cackling🤣 the kid is good with a saber tho 🤣

[@DarthTingleBinks]

The reason Osha got the planet right during the test was because she was no longer lying. That was after they had resumed the test, something we didn't actually see in episode 3. It's not an inconsistency, it's a continuation of a previous scene.

[@Fireandbubbles]

I think separating episode 3 and 7 by an entire 4 weeks was problematic. I get why they did it, but there was a cost.

[@TjStrike111]

Literally, people are just acting stupid for some reason...

[@bajansamurai]

Yeah, that's simply willful frustration making a simple thing a problem at that point. We got Osha's POV before, which was flawed - thinking Mae tried to purposely burn her, and not knowing the extent of her interaction with the Jedi during the test. All it was is Osha continuing the test - Indara even talks with Sol after about her passing the test, but after getting "coached". So, consistent with before, in Ep3 they cut away soon after the trick of her pretending to guess wrong, and Sol saying "correct" each time, then telling her it is OK to give truthful answers if she really wants to be a Jedi - which we know happened. We knew in advance she passed the test and that some of the scene wasn't complete, it wasn't a big stretch to think the test resumed instead of some situation like them saying *"We know she purposefully got them wrong, ergo, she would have gotten them all right therefore she passed."*

[@joshuajordan2562]

Thank you! I feel like they’re trying really hard to make it seem like they don’t understand what’s happening. Or they really didn’t watch the episode. Which is what I’ve found disappointing about all these reviews of this show.

[@Bandanab310]

Sol gave off the feeling that he wanted to be killed by the other mother and just immediate regret so he didn’t put up much of a fight with her just minimal defensiveness and just taking the punches.

[@maiaspen307]

“Qimir’s arms are what’s holding up this show.” Gold. 😂

[@SpaceyKasey17]

It reminds me of big little lies, where the group decides to lie about how Alexander Skarsgard dies when they literally could have just told the truth and everyone would have understood

[@vanessafontaine6751]

That always bugged me too! They had a laundry list of his crimes- people would believe it was self defense

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

The Jedi council were 100% this time. Leave those girls alone. Don’t give Sol a padawan he ain’t ready

[@fpt3000]

I'm calling it now... Osha will fuse with Mae and become the acolyte. Clues: 1- there's only one girl on the cover art 2- that weird redemption music when Mae cut her hair 3- the whole rhyme coming to fruition

[@cartersminis]

I definitely think they’ll be fusing together, I’m not sure if they’ll become the acolyte though. Maybe briefly and then redemption? That’s a lot for one last episode though.

[@pendaflux]

I think this is a pretty interesting idea actually. I will remember your name, FPT3000, while I am watching next week's episode.

[@zoid8692]

Oh nice I like this idea. If they fused I wonder if that might be how Osha finally knows what happened that night and they'll be both be uber pissed at the Jedi or something

[@bajansamurai]

@@fpt3000 I don't see this show doing a DragonBall fusion, but I can see them holding hands, channeling the power of the dead Coven through them as "the power of many" and speaking in one voice reminiscent of Mother Aniseya

[@Dixon_Ormous]

I don’t hate the idea of “fusing” or whatever. The power of many could be similar to the ending of RoS where all the sith and Jedi are living through palps and Rey. Mother aniseya does say “i was going to let osha go” could mean like detatch from her and her coven.

[@NionAeon]

They really made Sol seem very creepy in this episode 😢 It’s crazy how one episode can put you off a whole character that was a favourite..

[@acolytesounds]

35:54 This was my biggest question in the episode because we still dont know exactly how the girls were created and for what specific purpose. Clearly the other witches have some deep need to have them. I had originally thought the 2 mothers would just reincarnate themselves, or essence transfer into the girls, which is why they have that weird line during the Ascension about "upon my death - do you promise". Its confusing and I hate that I have to wait another week. Theres still so many other questions to answer that they can't possibly wrap it all up next week.. but I hope they do.

[@moneymanD871]

The Sol killing of Aniseya is the lynch pin to this whole thing.

[@wcorowitz]

and then lying to Osha about killing her mother. What's weird is Mae not mentioning to Osha that Sol killed their mother when they encountered each other later.

[@moneymanD871]

@@wcorowitz I think that represents the trauma. The vergence and OSHA and MAE being an individual Diad is crazy . That itself can be explored for seasons.

[@smag5689]

All of the Jedi are having trouble with their emotions. Are they are being affected by the vergence of Dark Side energy on Brendok?

[@GrandPoppyA]

Could be.

[@Fireandbubbles]

Good point

[@ddm62571]

No they are affected by Disney's poor writing

[@smag5689]

@@ddm62571 "Poor writing" is the fall back position for people that can't admit their biases.

[@ddm62571]

@@smag5689 "Poor writing" is self-explanatory. Which clearly defines the show.

[@chepscity393]

It feels like they payed homage to The Matrix when Indara leaps towards Kellnaca to clear his mind. If you listen closely, as soon as she leaps it sounds like the beginning of the Matrix theme! The first note hits low and the second note hits higher as she takes him down! I could be reaching, but Matrix trilogy is still my all time fav movie and I’ve watched it a million times! As soon as I heard those 2 notes, I had a huge smile on my face…it happens right at the 33min,04sec mark of this episode, “Choice”

[@turonwhitfield7917]

It's funny how these,jedi specially the young Patawan,are super quick to pull there blade trinity also as a master ,so iam used to oby wan and yoda,obi wan ,the negotiator,,,but I loved that,all ways want to see sabor combat ,most definitely

[@turonwhitfield7917]

Yeah the matrix is by far in my top 5 franchise of movies ,lord of the rings, star wars ,underworld franchise, marvel franchise, just all the bodies of movies from all respective franchises just to name a few but they all swap nbr 1 at times depending on what's out or the games iam playing ,but the matrix has been number for many times

[@GrandPoppyA]

That is an excellent point. I think they would done that for the Matrix fans.

[@matthewgreenberg2399]

I think you guys are missing the point a bit. I think this was meant to show the crucial flaws in the Jedi way. Because they never let themselves feel basic human emotions like love they lash out if extremely unhealthy ways.

[@harryevans1111]

Can we please talk about how Wookie power levels change faster than Marvel heroes? The amount of times this guy grabbed a human by the arm and didn’t rip it off, or smashed a head into a rock and didn’t kill them… this guy is not the same kind of wookie that Han Solo described on the Falcon to scare the golden balls off of C-3PO

[@acolytesounds]

He was being controlled by others, but yea maybe a missed opportunity? I thought they did a really great job of showing his brute strength, especially with those heavy swings.

[@harryevans1111]

@@acolytesounds his strength looked awesome! But I felt they needed to avoid him making heavy direct contact with humans without showing real damage. That kind of pressure should have popped the kid’s head against the wall like a balloon. When he grabbed Sol’s wrist, he should have been able to literally tear him in half. I loved the vibe but wanted them to have Sol use the force (aka wire work) to avoid the impacts, not block or eat them. But yeah, you’re right that he felt super strong in that scene overall!

[@acolytesounds]

@harryevans1111 Good point. He probably could have easily broke his wrist just by grabbing it. And the part where Torbin blocks the blade could be explained by perhaps using the force but I don't think he's that good or that strong. Indara did a pretty cool Black Widow takedown on him though

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

Maybe since they took him over Kelnacca was fighting them from using his full power

[@harryevans1111]

@@acolytesounds indara was super cool, and I’ll buy her being powerful enough in the force to counter his strength.

[@stutam]

@12:50 Maude, I thought it was pretty clear: Osha was fudging up the test initially but after talking with Sol (in Indara’s words being coached), proceeded to tell the truth. Osha even said so in episode 3, before Mae ran off.

[@TjStrike111]

Literally, they're all acting stupid for some reason to pass the show off as poorly written or something... It's crazy

[@maudesworld]

@@stutam thanks for clarifying!

[@SupahNerd]

​@@TjStrike111The show as a whole WAS poorly written.

[@ricardomejias5384]

I hate to say it, but Sol gave me the ick the entire episode. Home boy pulled a Twilight and Jedi imprinted on Osha. The story also feels like a retread of Phantom Menace where a Jedi gets fixated on a force sensitive child which leads to disaster due to their interference of taking the child and forcing them to become Jedi.

[@john-punsalan]

Love your team’s humor! But as for your rewriting the episode, that’s getting into more Monday morning quarterbacking in my opinion. Is the Acolyte essential Star Wars? No. But it has been entertaining. Lee Jung-jae and Manny Jacinto are the best stand outs. And I appreciate that it is a separate story apart from the Skywalkers.

[@cartersminis]

Conceptually, lore and story wise I’m really enjoying the show, I just wish it was executed a little bit better. But hey, I’m down for the ride.

[@marjoe32]

This show has taught me the internet is full of Master Class screenwriters who know how the show could have been better. I hope y'all get hired, I truly do and we can get Cinema with our Star Wars back.

[@TheDailyBugle66]

It’s just so bad that almost everyone can point out what was wrong with it. Doesn’t take a master screenwriter to see it. Doesn’t take a master chef to call out crap that tastes bad right?

[@acolytesounds]

3:42 absolutely needed that. Just a quick "drop the gun!" Moment

[@willmgs3903]

I’m actually glad they don’t explain everything because it allows fans to speculate and come up with theories of where it will lead. Haven’t seen this much theorizing and questions with a new Star Wars show. I love it.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks to Brandon, Maude and Tom! 🌑 The "we must be sacrificed" misquote little 'Mae' conveyed to 'Indara' and 'Sol' had a huge impact. They literally thought the girls were in mortal danger. 'Aniseya' actually said, "It is about sacrificing a *part* of ourselves". 🔸 It's also wild to learn that 'Sol' was imposing his own wants (to have a Padawan... even though he might not be ready) onto the situation. He even almost lost his temper with 'Indara' at the end. Looked like he was set to hit her. That shows a very un-Jedi-like conflict that adds to his motivations. 🔸 And don't get me started on 'Torbin' being all immature from boredom and homesickness. 'Indara' turned out to be the most reasonable one of all.

[@JAA2189]

Star Wars fans are wild, can’t we just enjoy something without rewriting the show. I like maud but not on the Star Wars things for sure, almost overly critical, probably because she actually is a true Star Wars fan too!

[@missnads2223]

Yeah maude is pretty annoyingly hateful of the show.

[@pendaflux]

I am surprised at the hate this show receives. I guess it could have been streamlined into a movie, but if your options are to strategically conceal/reveal information or just let a show fizzle down, I will take this one. I agree that the protagonist energy is not strong in this, but it’s better than the prequels where you had to try to worry if Kenobi could successfully ride a giant lizard through a million robots (yes) or if Anakin would see the folly of his ways (no).

[@Fireandbubbles]

I find this show adequate. Not good, not bad. Adequate with some really cool scenes. This automatically means I like it better than Book of Boba Fett. This series and Kenobi, I see them as kinda meh ports of movies into TV shows. Both would’ve been better as movies, and the Acolyte in particular would’ve benefitted from not having the story spaced out for TV.

[@bajansamurai]

​@@Fireandbubblesthat's a good take.

[@pendaflux]

​@@Fireandbubbles I do not like Kenobi at all. I can understand Sol stabbing at a creepy black cloud during a human sacrifice ritual way better than I can understand burying Darth Vader in rocks and then walking away.

[@zoid8692]

34:30ish mark- Indara was not the main instigator by any means, but there was multiple small decisions along the way that she ultimately allowed or endorsed actions that lead to the catastrophe. Sol pushed going as a group instead of just her, cheated during Osha's testing and Indara seemed to realize that, Sol insisted they go and save these girls, Sol convinced her NOT to tell the Jedi Council anything, which were all situations in which she said NO first, and then ultimately folded every time. All those little moments pushed them towards that end result. In that way, she was very much at fault because the top decision maker, she really could have said no, listen to me and were calling the council right now before things get out of hand.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yep. It was massive screw up by both sides.

[@brandonavery4005]

I think it's interesting that everyone on the show wants the audience to fully understand magik and Force related things. Personally, I like the more mystic things to remain a bit more nebulous. The fact that you can Monday-morning quarterback 10 different things around the mystic themes is a nice story writing element, imho, and keeps ppl talking.

[@marjoe32]

YES

[@kayinmitchell]

Yeah I was so confused as to what Mother A was trying to do… still am

[@bajansamurai]

Seems to me like they showed that's their way of using the Force to move around undetected or outright teleport. Even if it's just a form of illusion, Mother Aniseya was clearly taking Mae to go help Osha, but defaulted to the skill she typically uses to get there without these strangers' interference. If it is teleportation, it's akin to Nightcrawler stepping into the brimstone dimension then coming out at another point quickly. If it is illusion, it's smoke and mirrors to move unimpeded. Either one, she hadn't moved yet or was not dematerialized enough to not be stabbable; and Sol thought it was part of whatever the witches use to sacrifice the girls.

[@bajansamurai]

I get the idea that we think more is owed in the explanation of the twins' creation, ultimate purpose, and potential, or about the witches' history and use of the Thread; but so far they've given hints that we can make certain assumptions. Mother Aniseya used the convergence to basically create life from her own essence. It is basically her act of using the Force instead of technology to produce a clone of herself. Instead of one, she created two, maybe intentionally, so they're even more exact than twins. In the method of split creation, however, they got slightly different portions of Aniseya, so neither of them is truly the same personality as the other or wholly Aniseya. This is why their physiology only takes after Aniseya despite being carried in Koril. The only thing we can't satisfyingly answer from context clues is what the sacrifice would have been and if it was literal or metaphorical. Were the twins meant to lead the coven by containing Aniseya (or all of them) or channeling them from the Force/Thread after death and rebuilding the coven, or were the Twins meant to be used as sacrifices and lead them from inside the Thread?

[@Cpt_Can0pen3r]

51:04 the trials don't indicate the shift to master, they indicate the shift from Padawan to knight. The first episode of this series even touches on that when Yord was in Osha's quarters and she said "you finally completed your trials" and he says "I made knight two years ago"

[@user-wn8rs8tz2y]

Can anyone tell me what happened to the archers? They seemed to just disappear

[@joshuajordan2562]

13:45 they completely forgot what happened in episode 5. We never saw Mae’s test in episode 5 just Osha’s. We saw the afterwards of both Mae and Osha’s test. This literally seems like everyone is trying to over analyze. If yall can’t fill in the blanks off of previous episodes, you weren’t paying attention and they should just admit that.

[@FancastFanatic]

I think the show deserves some credit for assuming that the audience is smart enough to fill in some blanks. For example, Sol saying “let her go” would be good but, the writers assume we know Sol is afraid of a power he doesn’t understand and already on edge so he reacts harshly bc of fear. I don’t need everything spelled out for me and I feel like this is better than Anikan in ep.3 who clearly stated all of his feelings to a fault

[@TjStrike111]

THANK YOU!! we don't need everything spelt out and in fact loads of people inc NEW ROCK STARS have created videos saying not everything needs to be stated as fact or mentioned in an offhand comment. So the criticism from Maude seems over the top and somewhat personal. Makes the episodes hard to watch imo

[@ddm62571]

Lol

[@babytoshiro7014]

I was about to say this lol. They really could had gone deeper but I think they know more than half the fanbase aren't well... you know lmao

[@samuelmccann3008]

Exactly this is a murder mystery, they want you to think. If they give you all the answers then it wouldn’t be a mystery.

[@SupahNerd]

They did not do a good job of making assumptions. It was confusing.

[@kdtheii]

Btw... Obi Wan was a Padawan in Phantom Menance and at the end granted rank of knight. He was a Knight in Attack of the Clones. And a Master in Revenge of the Sith. Just to clear that up lol

[@Fedaygin]

27:42 Yeeees for Jodie Turner-Smith 🙂 She deserves a big role in upcoming Dawn of the Jedi or Grogu hanging out with Djin movie 🙂

[@SniktBamfThwips]

I think Kelnacca was taken over by the power of many. For Torbin it was just Mother Aniseya but for Kelnacca they all entered his mind.

[@frann8552]

About the night sisters thing, night sisters are a very specific clan. Its like saying apache are the same as navajo when they arent from the same place and dont practice the same religion.

[@JoeNasr123]

Star Wars is historically famous for lacking subtlety or nuance when it comes to stuff like this

[@bajansamurai]

It's also allowable that since this all happens decades before anything we know the Jedi know, that their knowledge of their practices is limited. It's pretty clear since they mentioned there are many different splinter Force groups across the Galaxy.

[@michaellauritano5252]

Maude’s edits are so on point

[@missnads2223]

I think they should bring balance to the breakroom and have 1 person who doesnt have huge amounts of Stars Wars knowledge on the show, to give opinions about what we actually saw, rather than constantly trying to make things fit the high repubulic books or games or whatever. It would just be nice to hear you guys have real debates and conversations about the show and hear other prospectives, like you used to.

[@agresticumbra]

I suspect that Sol was so emotionally off balance that moving life forms was harder. All I can say about the episode is that I think everything the coven did to the Jedi was justified. They were outside their jurisdiction, and broke into the coven’s home twice.

[@TheOneMarr3ro]

Y’all should get Eric or Jessica to breakdown Gladiator 2 trailer 🙏😀

[@smag5689]

Dean-Charles Chapman, the actor who plays Torbin, was on the post-apocalyptic martial arts show Into the Badlands so likely already has martial arts and sword training on top of training for The Acolyte. His previous training likely played a part in him getting the role.

[@maudesworld]

Such a fun fact!

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

Indara’s decision makes sense. The council gave and order. Torbin and Sol defied it end of discussion. There’s a reason only 3 of them are in the room Kelnacca and Indara wouldn’t have gotten in trouble. So she chooses to protect her padawan and make sure this orphan isn’t tossed in the bin of the outer rim.

[@1sbraina1]

She didn’t lie she’s telling the truth from a certain point of view

[@TjStrike111]

Literally, it does make sense what she did!!

[@Wayne-cq5wg]

Indara made the choice to unplug the coven WiFi from the wookie in the middle of an upload 😆

[@ejones06629]

At least I have y’all’s videos to look forward to when I get let down by the writing on the Acolyte, thanks for all your fun and theories ❤

[@Fedaygin]

Talk close to end: Thing is that even experienced Jedi who faces such power in melee range would react with hostile move 😒😟 If only Aniseya (played by talented Jodie Turner-Smith) would've said "okey i'll release her as she wants, don't be scared of what you'll see" but sniff 🙁 I would love to see Nihil species in Live Act. The Hyperspace Disaster story told in High Republic Book 😋 Maybe S02 goes back in time & introduces that in live act format ✅ [Forever DPlus Sub, Love The Acolyte, Nice Soundtrack, Nice Wardrobe, Writing At Same Level With Rest Of SW, Innocence, Sudden Reaction] 📺

[@revrodgers]

I just wish it was more analysis of the story versus rewriting the story in the reviews of this show. It is a National Pastime for reviewers to want to make this show what they would have written. Now, structurally, the editing is wanting and the format should have been put out all at once irrespective of split into hour long segments versus these bad abt 30 min chops.

[@kamotrof]

Or maybe if she “planned to let OSHA go”…not have all of the witches with arrows and say that up front instead of starting off with it was a mistake to come back here…you knew they were coming back…because they were coming back to pick up Osha, which you already knew…ridiculous.

[@heathermackenzie7670]

Episode 3 and 7 should have been one long episode IMO. Maude's commentary is once again on point, particularly about it making more sense if Indara decided to withold the events of Brendock from Osha alone. This series needed soooooooooo much more Aniseya and Indara. As for the line about "your good intentions will lead to your downfall"... it's called Revenge of the Sith, not Revenge of Your Good Intentions for a reason. Also, you cannot be a Jedi Master until you've successfully trained a padawan to knight, so Obi-Wan was a knight in AOTC and a master in TCW/ROTS as Anakin had been knighted.

[@matheusfernandes2102]

Having the two flashback episodes merged into one would completely kill the Rashomon/different prespective they were going for it

[@heathermackenzie7670]

@@matheusfernandes2102 Yeah but they didn't pull off the Rashamon effect they were going for.

[@matheusfernandes2102]

@@heathermackenzie7670 didn't they? Everyone was thinking the Jedi had done something terrible and were the evil guys, a lot of people were hating on the show because of it. But the episode showed that the situation was a lot more complex. The problem is that people are watching the show in bad faith and arent open to what the show wants to show

[@SupahNerd]

​@@matheusfernandes2102 The show as a whole still failed to deliver.

[@RudeXII]

its wild seeing Maude here, I haven't seen her since SourceFed

[@fumfering]

Getting confused by the rewrite during the so-called recap. During a recap, I like to talk about what happened, not what would have happened if the script were different.

[@missnads2223]

I agree. Really wish they would talk about the actual show first before going into the " this would've been so much better" part.

[@Lothmire]

If every detail was explained we wouldn’t have the Aftershow ❤

[@Jazz41173]

I thought Master Indara knocked out the witches when she took them out of his head. They then died in the fire/explosion/falling rubble.

[@fraliexb]

6:10 Sol be reminding me of Doctor Disrespect, the way he was looking at those little girls.

[@donaldchristensen9866]

I was so happy to have a third kind of witches in Star Wars but now they're all gone. I need to know how that mine or city or hideout, whatever it is exploded 5 times.

[@fraliexb]

I think Mother Aniseya was teleporting her and Mae away. She should have said she was going to check on what Mae did, BRB...

[@PaulSimon-ee3gg]

The actor playing Torbin is from Game of Thrones. I'm pretty sure he's whipped a sword around before. That was awesome and good choice.

[@oldschoolde5183]

Maybe I’m just grasping at straws here but everything is down to Indara. SHE told everyone to leave the ship so that she could wait for the council’s decision. We never heard directly from the council, just what Indara told everyone they said. So, when she says that they need to lie, it may be a way of covering not just the team, but herself as well if she went against the council’s wishes.

[@bnutt16]

Kendrick: now let me say i’m the biggest hater Maude: Hold my beer!

[@Didi_Online]

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS TORBIN WAS PROBABLY SEVERELY DEPRESSED???

[@maudesworld]

Maybe he's agoraphobic and we're the assholes? 😳

[@Lily-ni5po]

I am guessing that there's a version of the story were the Padawan (Corbyn?) killed these witches but they were told it would be too dark to see a Jedi who remains a Jedi do that.

[@steveacfield6131]

And we're not talking about the metal detector?

[@maureec]

My long shot theory goes like this. There's a vergence on Brendok and there were vergences on Exegol. Palpatine threw Ben Solo into the vergence on Exegol but only part of him crawled out. Another part, the Kylo Ren part, went through it and emerged at Brendok in the past. He came to know the witches and guided them in making the twins receptacles for the spirits of the 2 mothers. He attended the Ascension (he was the tall hooded figure) and saved Mae from her fall when the bridge collapsed and became Qimir's master which is why the Kylo Ren theme plays when Qimir is around. Thus Kylo was both the first and the final Ren, and Qimir is a KOR, and Mae was being tested to become a knight but failed. Osha will however succeed as she will kill Sol for the murder of her mother when Mae tells her what really happened and so she will become a KOR while Mae will forgive Sol, forego her quest for revenge, and decide to settle on a desert planet and become a moisture farmer. What do think SW fans?😂😂😂

[@johnchung8204]

Couldn’t they scan the planet for lifeforms and man made structures while they are in orbit? Or fly around before they setup camp?

[@k.-__-]

This was an Acolyte episode. I enjoyed your theories and possible explanations, guys. Hi, Maude!

[@xerowulf24]

"mama said jedi's is the DEVIL" 😤

[@user-jr4mw9wi1c]

water sucks, it really really sucks

[@ayezoop884]

@@xerowulf24 Jedi got all them teeth and no toothbrush

[@ethanlane4873]

I think that you become a master once you have a padawan graduate, so Obi-wan is a master after successfully training anakin

[@reydelcastillo17]

The breakroom is better than the show itself

[@basebatter94]

I'm here for Maude's reactions.

[@markbell6330]

Captivated by the designs on Maude’s top this ep! Death Star specs? Thats all I see😎

[@katlinfergusson8169]

Obi-Wan was a padawan in episode 1, a Jedi Knight in episode 2 and he was on the council in episode 3 and a Jedi master.

[@AlSween]

Hmm... Maybe Torbin's mind was being meddled with before they made contact. The witches were trying to make the Jedi disappear before they made contact. Also, Torbin and Kelnacca are the only ones to have lasting effects on their minds because of their lack of experience?

[@YetiVlogs]

Maude can call me a coward... or an idiot... anytime.

[@SilkBuckets]

they call it m-conut in bad batch too. like if ur gonna do it then commit to it lol

[@bigmoney2388]

Great Show I Cant lie!

[@michaelnewman4649]

I’ve got an off the wall idea..but what if they are setting Mae and Osha up to become the embodiment of the Son and Daughter of Mortis alongside Anakin as the Father 😒

[@harryevans1111]

Maude nailed my issue with POVs. Here’s my question: who is the protagonist? Who can I relate to, with motivations I can understand? Who’s the “straight man” as they say? There’s no character for us to latch on to. Even Sol is a total mystery, last week people were guessing he’s evil lol

[@revrodgers]

I think that’s the point. This is a mystery series and most reviews are missing that.

[@harryevans1111]

@@revrodgers mysteries are also supposed to have a protagonist that lets us relate to them even as crazy things happen. That’s why most noir detectives are such simple, relatively one dimensional characters. There are very few highly rated mystery movies out there where the protagonist is a total enigma, that doesn’t make a lot of sense to the audience until the very end. It’s not impossible, but it’s extremely hard to pull off.

[@acolytesounds]

I agree that it makes it hard to follow but I also think that the way they set this up, with the whole "Rashomon effect" purposely removes the viewers from a POV to latch on to until we know the totality of what happened. In Rashomon, the POV we get is almost through the eyes of the judge who each character is pleading their story to. Really need to see the next episode but yea probably not done half as well as Kurosawa

[@joesephovide2942]

Maude always keeps it real.

[@J.O.R.D]

29:04 I thought she called him an idiot too 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

[@turonwhitfield7917]

I thought the witches were knocked out from trinities telepathic attack,and the explosion from may killed the witches ?

[@justinharrison4563]

This has probably already been said but this show would have benefited from making episodes 3 and 7 the first two episodes and carried on from there. The flashbacks have taken me out of it. Lay the groundwork early and let’s see how it’s dealt with. I’m finishing it but outside of kenobi I’ve never been more disappointed in Star Wars

[@jpagcaoili]

So it's a "vergence birth..." Not an "inoculate conception" like Anakin's, for m-count 😬

[@timothymiles2851]

My interpretation was Indara looking up at the moon above and realising that the reason the planet ended up fine was because the moon took the brunt of the hyperspace disaster.

[@cecilevr7629]

maybe "nightsisters" is like the Cuco, no details, just a scary monster.

[@Nate-616]

Great Live-Stream!! The Acolyte is very intriguing!!! (I do kinda wish you’d answer my Superchat. It is my fault that I send it minutes before you ended the stream)

[@Jazz41173]

So the Moms used the Vergence like IVF. And it was so powerful they ended up with two.

[@daveonwheeler7412]

Grey jedi. The council will receive your way of what happened on that planet

[@Nightlightknight]

The story is so thin and full of holes. Why does Osha want to be a Jedi if all she has known is her coven wirh seemingly no visitors from the galaxy? What makes the Jedi suddenly fearful for the twins lives? The fumbled words of a child? It would have made much more sense to have gone with Maude’s storyline.

[@acolytesounds]

56:08 Mae already thinks the Jedi are evil. So killing all 4 of them is not an issue for her. By the time she kills Torbin though, you would think she would start to realize that arent actually evil..

[@adam_p132]

Here for Maude's commentary. Thank you.

[@sampson3121]

Wisping her away because a fight was just about to ensue. Like any good parent would. Nothing more nothing less

[@jessedodrill4875]

I don’t think the coven is actually dead. I think it knocked them out. Maybe the building collapsed, but we didn’t see that, right? And how did Mae survive? Surely we’ll go back one last time.

[@WaltLyon]

I believe the unknown planet is brendok without the vergance so now there is no life again and koral I believe has more of her story to show maybe a third flashback to the night sister/ quimer pov on this same event

[@seanrobinson8676]

You cannot tell a whole story in 8 episodes if there is a season 2 then maybe he can do it.

[@babthew]

If the witches were kind of shady it would make Sol look a little better than a war criminal. I wonder if he sensed their actual evil through the force.

[@nickname3380]

Great breakdown! This was favorite episode…. How sad for the show.

[@Selassie231]

So does that mean that mandalore is a vergence??? It was essentially turned to glass and now we're seeing all kinds of life on it

[@Fireandbubbles]

I think maybe the Mythosaur is like a vessel for the Manda, which is sorta like the Mandalorian Force. In legends, anyway.

[@kevthepoet]

I really wish Maude was in the writers room and that's a problem with all these live shows but Andor, they needed someone on quality control so Obi Wan doesn't hide Leia under his coat etc.

[@seanvillanueva9958]

Technically masters and Padawan in Star Wars are not so too attached for each other

[@AAAAGGGGHHHHH]

A-S Tier Mando Andor Mid Acolyte BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD AHSOKA BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD

[@jesushawkins44]

once obi wan took anikan as a padawan he became master . so yes he was jumped obi wan was never a knight