Breitling Avenger 43mm GMT

[@JHK-DTRADER777]

OMG why do I like Breitling's so much!

[@michaelriera6277]

Because the make solid, beautiful watches at a relatively affordable price.

[@JVG-fx9dt]

Have this one with the white dial and it looks so clean. Love the grenade style crown. I wear it with the mesh rubber diver strap and adjustable folding clasp. I know some complain about the ETA movement, but mine is actually more accurate than my SOHII, which has the Tudor movement 🤷‍♂️

[@WINDINGCROWNS]

I heard that Breitling are using the ETA. For awhile Swatch Group watches were priority BUT that they were losing money keeping the movements within the group, so they opened it back up to outside Swatch Group.

[@jimg518]

I had a “Chrono Colt” once in 41mm. They need to offer that size in the Avenger, then I would buy it for sure. I love the steel bezel look too.

[@Zyklop223]

I have the Avenger 43 Chrono which I am wearing on the strap. And I have to say it wears much better as I thought. Have 18.5 cm wrists and it fits so well! Maybe you should give it a try in 43mm😉😇

[@Ae073001]

I've also heard from many sources that the logo only was white gold. I had this watch and loved it but flipped it to help fund the open worked dial Zenith Defy. Thinking about getting again in the future because it really is a good watch.

[@ivan-xt]

Kern said winged logo will only stay to the avanger line which was invented during the Schneider family ownership. Every other line gets the old logo which creates some oddities such as having the chronomat and the navitimer missing the great winged logo.

[@michaelriera6277]

Breitling are built like tanks. Love ❤️ the winged B.

[@pbuehner]

That is a beautiful watch.

[@Schlock3000]

The indices are actually not applied. They're pressed through from the back. So they're raised out of the dial, but they're not separate pieces applied to the dial. Which is kind of a disappointment at that price point. Still a really cool watch.

[@RocasThePenguin]

I love GMTs. And I love the Avenger. But I choose the standard Avenger instead. That one just seems like the GMT was an afterthought. But, still a lovely watch.

[@desertsoldier41]

I like this one and the Chronomat. Still a bit expensive for an ETA 2893 COSC grade. Omega never got this pricey for their old ETA models. My 2531.80 was $1600 new back in 2002. Even factoring in inflation it is effectively double the price.

[@berare777]

I would love to have this watch in my collection.

[@morgan97475]

I do like the Avenger design. But being poor, I went for a Seiko 5 SRP421 which gives me that blingy Breitling vibe without the Breitling price. Champagne tastes on a kool-aid budget here.

[@michaelriera6277]

There is something for everyone. Congrats on your Seiko 5, great watch.

[@1018Frankie]

Why the don’t use the gmt movement of Tudor? It would be great for them to do that!

[@VersedNJ]

True since they were in on the movement, they basically inhouse it. There are benefits to using higher end eta's, low service costs.

[@1018Frankie]

@@VersedNJ yes they are benefits of using ETA movements but in this case I’m looking for the benefits of using a true gmt because of the arrangement that they have with Tudor. ETA ha a true gmt but is only available for the Swatch group.

[@Angry_Gnome]

The watch would be much thicker if they used the Tudor GMT movement. It would kill the wearability.

[@1018Frankie]

@@Angry_Gnome yes but it would be a true gmt instead of an office gmt.

[@christhealmighty2206]

I have a chance to buy this for 2700€ is that a good price for this? Will I lose money if I buy it?

[@sledgehammerlion]

I really want to buy this. There is one thing that I think gets me about this watch. I think the reason it doesn't have a "true" GMT movement is because the Avenger GMT 2 had a 24-hour rotating bezel. Now that they've ditched the 24-hour rotating bezel, you start running into the slightly annoying fact that you can't set the hour hand independently of the GMT hand and the GMT hand only goes one direction. I personally would buy this watch in a heartbeat if it still had the 24-hour bezel instead of the 24-hour chapter ring. I don't really understand why they made that change. If anything it's harder to tell what time it is with the GMT hand now because the numbers are too small.

[@Stephen-bj4lz]

Probably telling people what they already know but just spoke to Breitling as I'm interested in buying this watch. The winged logo on the dial is Rhodium plated, not white gold, and the movement could be an ETA or a Selitta depending on when you buy the watch. More recent models are likely to have the Selitta, although the Breitling website is misleading as the movement details state 25 jewels which would imply they are using an ETA. Basically you wouldn't know unless you open it!

[@GQguy24]

Does the 43 GMT come in blue? I’ve only been able to find the GMT blue dial in the 45 mm size.

[@gust9464]

Thx for sharing. Love that watch. What size is that strap?

[@JHK-DTRADER777]

So the program is like a lease to buy? If you like the watch can you buy it at a discount at the end?

[@RandomRobReviews]

Kinda. You still spend more. I will drop a video soon sharing.

[@jjbuckmaster7059]

ETA is more available then it was… Apparently they realize they were missing out on market share… I see many brands getting a hold of them now

[@jeffd3802]

Do u have more links at 12 oclock or 6? I cannot for the life of me get a comfortable fit becaus of the crazy curved metal clasp.

[@RandomRobReviews]

Yeah that clasp can be tricky. Normally on most watches I go short on the 6 side. Not sure if that will work for the clasp but it keeps watch from rotation

[@thumbs4fingers]

Beautiful piece. The only gripe I have are the raised numbers on the bezel. Never been a fan of that look.. Thanks Rob.

[@heavyd9154]

beat me to it

[@jjbuckmaster7059]

43mm….7 1/2 inch wrist so technically I can pull it off… However Breitling has never stayed in my collection because the majority of the models are 43 mm or bigger For no reason in my opinion.

[@VersedNJ]

If tuey give you a good deal on keeping it, and you were thinking of getting the non GMT version, I'd would consider the buy out. Have the SO like yours on a blue tang rubber strap, look for the bracelet, they were over $500 used, just not worth it to me, and like the strap, like you prefer bracelets but it looks good on the strap.. Fostner has some good quality bracelets amd would opt for that if I decide to go that option. Even the non tang rubber strap with the deployant and strap (sold seperate) comes to like $500, and like the tang, easier to wear and cheaper to replace even from Breitling. As for the Breitling loan thing, if it works for you and did, fine.

[@Bravesailor95]

Nice watch, Rob, but I'm not paying $4.2K for a non-true GMT.

[@quinnjim]

What do you mean by "non-true"? I'm looking for a GMT and thought this might be a good choice.

[@Bravesailor95]

@@quinnjim A true GMT allows for the hour hand to be changed without it affecting the GMT hand. This is much more convenient for frequent traveling.

[@quinnjim]

@@Bravesailor95 Got it. Thanks!

[@Tyler-qo8wr]

There's a Selitta movement in my SuperOcean 44 from 2021

[@RandomRobReviews]

Thanks. I don’t like to hear that. But is what it is

[@Tyler-qo8wr]

@@RandomRobReviews I wasn't a fan upfront, but after speaking with a few folks at Breitling, I'm confident the decision was executed in a manner that the end user will notice no change in performance and benefit from superior after-sales service. I'd rather have a movement that Breitling can support for decades to come,

[@Nefville]

If you don't pick it up you could offer it in discord. For the price they were asking I'm sure someone in there would love to have it. If it were 40mm that someone would be me.

[@LTC_Tiger]

At the price that this watch commands, they should be using Tudor’s GMT “travelers’ GMT” movement rather than the 2893/SW330 “callers’ GMT.” One would think that Breitling and Tudor already have a working relationship due to Tudor’s use of the B01.

[@tastiefreeeze]

@N A While I definitely do agree with you on this. I will say my Colt auto with a B17 (2824-2) movement definitely has been fully worked over. It feels substantially different when winding or setting then say a standard 2824-2

[@tastiefreeeze]

@N A 100% agree

[@alastairmakesmusic]

@@tastiefreeeze that’s interesting to hear about the work that’s been done on the movement. Do you have any idea what they do to improve the 2824?

[@tastiefreeeze]

@@alastairmakesmusic just now seeing this, from a collection of watchuseek forum posts for the Breitling B17 here's what I've been able to put together, but keep in mind they may do more than this. Breitling purchases chronometer grade ETA or selitta movement parts separately to select those with tighter tolerances, then rhodium plate all of the pieces and decorate them, they also replace some of the gearing throughout the movement with heavier thicker gauge wheels for better durability and smoother winding due to better finishing on the thicker gear wheels.

[@orangedan5424]

No unlike Rolex, none of Breitling hands and logos are made from white gold. It's a nice watch though, but I prefer the chronomat, especially the Super Chronomat with their new ceramic bezel. Less blinky than the polish steel bezel.

[@Djoxiiii777]

The green one looks so damn good! Breitling is doing pretty good nowdays but they should make smaller cases 🤗

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

Love this piece, maybe a 42 x 50 would be better

[@rossdev]

Love it too, if it was slightly smaller I would definitely get one. The lugs just kill it for me.

[@Asad-2166]

Premium watches like this should come with a deployment clasp!🤷🤦

[@kuningas7]

Nice but the older model looks better imo.

[@JoneeB]

The strap is 150 quid no buckle

[@TheDarlowiak]

Why so big ??!

[@baderyousef4044]

🌹👌

[@WetWatches]

Get it wet, get it wet 💦

[@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd]

Way too expensive. George Kern is very greedy

[@citationbob]

I bought one in November of 2021. It’s back at bristling for the fourth time. The movement is crap and bristling does not care. Watch is 20-30 seconds fast a day. All day on a winder and the watch has maybe a 8 hour reserve. All bristling does is a service when you send it in. They AP offered a $2000 trade in for a $5000 watch. NEVER AGAIN.

[@MillerVanDotTV]

Indices Look stamped. If true, odd on a watch of this price. Love this otherwise.

[@RandomRobReviews]

Stamped is a cleaner way to get allignment and clean lines

[@MillerVanDotTV]

@@RandomRobReviews Good point Rob. Had not thought of that.