Brennan Lee Mulligan Talks Dimension 20 Fantasy High Junior Year Villains & More

Brennan Lee Mulligan discusses the Rat Grinders' sinister origin in Dimension 20: Fantasy High Junior Year and what he hopes to explore in the future.
Dimension 20: Fantasy High Junior Year is available now on Dropout. Read our full interview and article here: screenrant.com...
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[@ogzombiebreakfast]

Not sure if it was intentional, but opening the season with the Night Yorb was a nice little foreshadowing in terms of "Brennan making the bit real."

[@evelynlamoy8483]

True, but having unending night be present prior to the season about a goddess of new dawns is also super poetic. Man just has the ability to make something a dumb joke and the most poetic shit at the same time.

[@dumpy_frog]

Hi this is K2 I became real and downloaded youtube on this weird crystal

[@excalibur4366]

Blimey!

[@angelsander6178]

Hey there girlie, How are you enjoying actual, real life planet Earth? Because knowing that we now share a plane of existence with you isn't terrifying to me in any way whatsoever!

[@PyrotechNick77]

Well she's already from here , Britain doesn't exist in spyre. So it's a welcome back ,

[@jujuganz8884]

I see, so that sound I hear last week is your fart

[@thestarbran]

hows the beans on toast in england, k2?

[@Ammovampire]

I was fully expecting Mr Gibbons to make an appearance

[@bananabanana484]

Considering the thread of “people are resurrected to serve this Villian in rage”, this would have been plausible

[@danielroberts7134]

I’m of the opinion that he might be the big bad in the final season / senior year. Feel like that way it would come full circle

[@xxJagMasterGxx]

@@danielroberts7134 I could totally see that! He in some way gets back at Arthur Aguefort for killing him, and takes him out of the picture for the season or makes him evil.

[@davetoms1]

*"Eh, Mr. Gibbons?"* "...I'm sorry wha-" *_BLAM!_*

[@lexidc3940]

honestly, I was wondering if Kristen would end up switching to Ankarna, but having both of them instead of just 1 god seems a lot more fitting for her. absolutely amazing season. I've never laughed so much as I have over K2, cowgirls, and honor the cock, among so many others. truly brilliant comedians. and the sets were all so beautiful as well, the crew was so awesome.

[@CodeOmega0]

Yeah, it makes sense that Kristen ends up Poly/Pan. .. and by that I mean Polytheistic/Pantheon..

[@PDiddy-ed8jz]

Lmao top tier pun ​@@CodeOmega0

[@visaviae]

It's super interesting to see an interview done by someone who is so clearly a huge fan of the show.

[@SamGGreenberg]

I mean, she's wearing the shirt. :)

[@CerberusPlusOne]

Agreed, but it doesn't feel quite interviewy enough. Just starts in the middle and is more fan gushing than questions in tone.

[@charliethe_fish3992]

Straight as the lines on the Union Jack! Guv’na!

[@carveylover]

I consume too much content with Brennan and his home surroundings because I was like," Is this a different office?" I should not be asking that question. This was a great season. I hope Brennan does a senior year. If I have to wait another 3 years, I am OK with that.

[@meribor]

Same!

[@thevoicesstalk]

It's either the apartment where Brennan keeps his swords or Izzy has her affairs

[@carveylover]

@@lisdmon6538 an affair with swords. Ouchie.

[@johnclemens5066]

the thing with cassandra was, i thought because her name was destroyed, any name alley gave her would be filled in in every "blank space" that was left by the old name through divine laws

[@eddiemate]

Yeah that was an idea my friend and I had before Ankarna's name was discovered, with godly names "updating" with the god as they changed and were even forgotten (and thus erased due to oblivati mori). That obviously no longer made sense once we learned Ankarna's name still existed on that stone, but it was the only thing that made sense for how Cassandra's name would’ve been "updated" if it was new. Learning it’s just her old name, and that there’s no divine autocorrect is kinda disappointing, but probably makes more sense.

[@HellaGust]

I do feel like it's useful to think of it in "magical" terms. Or divine or whatever. In a world where you have not only Chronomancy but also like actualy divine powers and stuff, reality wouldn't work the way we think of it. Since time and even causality is malleable, it's a lot less crazy (relatively anyways) to imagine two opposing things being simultaneously true. Like with enough power an entity could make a thing not just cease to exist but never having existed. So presumably the reverse is true as well. It can be an old name pulled from the mists of time *and* a new name projected backwards through time at the same time. Cassandra might potentially be re-becoming the thing she never wasn't. When you're dealing with entities who presumably exist in more dimensions than we ourselves do shit gets *weird.* The whole thing with Kristen and Cassandra is inherently paradoxical and impossible to make any sort of logical sense of and I kind of *like* the idea that trying to figure out any sort of "truth" of it is impossible because it's the ultimate miracle of uncertainty. I'd like to imagine that the truth of the matter is always somewhat in flux. Or... y'know... I say all that and Cassandra looks at me and goes "That's what yooooou thiiiink" and pirouettes away, forever keeping any kind of certainty away from me.

[@yuvalne]

exactly what I thought. Cassandra's name wasn't gone like Ankara's, where all the followers were killed and the name scratched off. it was a powerful ritual made by her followers.

[@iainmarshall8093]

Brennan is the absolute pinnacle of DMing and is the person I most aspire to be like when I'm running my games.

[@emmakane6848]

Brennan saying he doesn’t remember the shoot for VIP makes so much sense after a seeing the behind the scenes for Augbert, where the costume people talked about doing their best to keep him cool. The fact that they couldn’t film while air conditioning was going is crazy.

[@VaxistheWindow]

I was talking about this yesterday but I feel like of all the seasons, Fantasy High's world has the most influence from the players choices than any other. It's the most collaborative of all the seasons which also makes it bat shit insane

[@mason-.]

In fairness it's the only world we've returned to that isn't New York City

[@VaxistheWindow]

@@mason-.Mostly true, crown of candy had ravening war however.

[@annethrax20]

I think the fact that kipperlily was very close to lucy and STILL killed her is the most telling part of who kipperlily really is, and truly made me lose any sympathy I had for her

[@MiGWar82]

I need senior year asap let's finish their high school story, so my soul can be satisfied.

[@catandotter1237]

Yeah, they can go to Highcourt to try and stop the plans of Buddy, Kalina, Bobby, and Bacarath.

[@titaniumiris3389]

I completely agree. Also @catandotter1237, how would you feel about an uncomfortable alliance with Bobby Dawn trying to get Buddy back to Helio? Bobby is still hardcore on the Sol train, and he did seem genuinely devastated about losing his grandson to Ankarna even if he generally supported Porter in his plans. Something in me loves the tension of the Bad Kids trying to defeat Kalina and Bacarath with help from Bobby, who just wants his grandson back.

[@skull4658]

i agree, however i feel like they're not going to do back-to-back fantasy high and i know how the cast has mentioned how much they want another starstruck season, so here's hoping...

[@Dohyden2]

And then Fantasy U Where the bad kids struggle with the move to University.

[@MiGWar82]

@@Dohyden2 now ya just being greedy lol

[@DavidsProjekt]

Brennan Lee Mulligan effortlessly reigns as the comedic champion among the College Humor/Dropout crew.

[@RHYA0101]

Brennan if ur reading this ur lovely and I love you. Respectfully

[@Candytuft-CookingPan]

3:40 I feel like for all of the characters you could see all of the seeds that had been already planted in them, with mostly vengeance against the badkids primarily by kipperlily, then being pumped full of rage fertilizer over like 4-5 months they were just such bad versions of what they initially were- Mary Ann never changed because her anger was never ambient so she only got mad when something that would've made her mad happened, and Ruben felt like he was fully brainwashed, Lucy had none of it, obviously, Kipperlily easily accepted because vengeance and power, Buddy Dawn went with what he already had goin, I feel like we don't know enough about Ivy and Oisin to understand how they changed, but it does seem like they were close gossipy friends in the first place.

[@haileygalbraith6260]

Oisin does have that bit with his grandmother being friends (or related to, don’t super remember) Klavaxis, so ther could have been some family influence outside of Kipperlillys influence, and I do like the head cannon that the bad kids offhandedly insulted or scorned them by accident, but it was just so small compared to everything else that we haven’t picked up on it.

[@odinmagick]

The background music rising and suddenly dropping out is killing meeeee

[@sarahvnyc]

It is such a weird choice. There's a reason no one plays music behind interviews!

[@leonardovelasco5625]

Arguably one of the best DM right now! Rivaled of course by Matt Mercer! This was arguably my favorite season of Dimension 20, which is saying a lot because of course you have Crown of Candy, The Unsleeping City, Starstruck Odyssey (highly underrated imo), and of course, Fantasy High Season 1 and 2! Can't wait for Senior Year!

[@Candytuft-CookingPan]

I do love all of those, and yes! Starstruck Odyssey was so good, and I really hope they make an S2, but I think if they do it has to be new characters.

[@RazorTreewise]

I could listen to brennan lee mulligan talk for hours on end

[@Dohyden2]

Ally said it felt very real to them that Kristen had first handedly experienced what happens when you so easily step away from something so important. And that they really liked Kristen's natural growth into "Ok I'm becoming a better person, or at least a person I like more" and is naturally excited about being responsible in that way. It's on Drop Out TV if you go to the behind the scenes interviews. So Kristen choosing to stay with Cassandra is a very natural growth of the character and I think it's awesome ^-^

[@rednecromancer2579]

I can’t wait 5 years for Senior year!! I watched freshman year the summer before my own freshman year, then during my own spring break of sophomore year I listened to sophomore year since it came out on KZbin, then I subscribed to Dropout just to watch junior year right before the summer of my own junior year. I need to watch senior year before I graduate high school, I’ve gone from barely getting into D&D at the start of middle school to a consistent player and DM now, it’s been there as inspiration constantly and I can’t stop now.

[@SlateSlabrock]

I always just figured Ice Feast and the snow-based Simulacrum pulling so much duty with the final fights was due somehow to Ruvina's influence. She'd want the best for her sister, right? Also not sure what's going on with Kalina since she's the one who put them on to Porter in the first place, or tried to. Mysteries abound.

[@DParkerNunya]

There's something the cast was missing about Kalina that kept being a bit frustrating. In the words of Brennan, about Ankarna, she's good when her followers (or God, in Kalina's case) are good, and bad when they are bad. In sophomore year, Kalina was evil. Plain and simple. But now, in junior year, she was still bound by the Spies Tongue Curse. They kinda skipped over "she's still cursed" into "Oh she's still evil". And so when Kassandra dismisses her and Bacaroth needs a new champion, great, she's evil again.

[@sparrowsayshi]

​@@DParkerNunya I picked up on that too. Kalina clearly didn't like Kristen but at the beginning of the season Kristen was acting so selfishly in terms of ignoring Cassandra that it made sense for Kalina to push her into trying to promote the religion. I do think Kalina genuinely cared about Cassandra, but the cast has almost always been hyper focused on their first impressions of people (Rahg andAelwyn are notable exceptions.) Kalina was cursed and "evil" in season 2, but she also intentionally lead Riz to reunite with his father and did not ever directly threaten their lives from what I remember. She wasn't *that* bad, compared to other villainous characters.

[@DParkerNunya]

@@sparrowsayshi in their defense, she did fully try to kill Riz and Kristen as soon as they got into the forest

[@Ppp_fanacc1235kpls]

Its nothing but a joy to watch him talk about things. Thanks again Brennan!

[@Peter-dk2ov]

His passion is infectious

[@amyring7227]

brennan lee mulligan is a god among men

[@maxgriffin7870]

Love how beloved Rog has become over the years. Crazy

[@turtleman5405]

God I love Dimension 20 and Brennan Lee Mulligan interviews!

[@The_Cowwwthem]

I LOVE DIMENSION 20!! I LOVE BRENNAN! Thanks for covering this

[@bcray2548]

Brennan quitting twice was definitely my favourite thing this season😭😂😂💔

[@hockeyslapper]

If Brennan wasn’t constantly so busy with Dimension 20 which I love, I could totally see him in comedy movies like Anchorman type things. Guy is fucking hilarious.

[@ceciliaarganaraz3975]

Brennan, you answered my question (or someone else's) about Cassandra's name 4 years after the fact, thank youuuuu!!!!

[@DavidGlivar]

Blimey!

[@nickjones32145]

Great season, great talk! Always cool to see Brennan talking about the things he loves, so thanks for this chat :)

[@DoubtlessCar0]

It’s amazing seeing dropout getting more public recognition.

[@davidtrainor9569]

I thought that agent would be a bigger character, he mentioned a bunch of people Fig had been gaslighting had gone missing. I hope there's a fourth season so I kind find out what happened.

[@parkerdalberg9033]

No it was her fake identities that went missing, because she stopped doing them

[@oldash8888]

I REALLLLLY hope discussions start soon for senior year

[@evelynlamoy8483]

To me, it would be incredibly funny if Kipperlilly Copperkettle was locked up in a ridiculously high security prison. The type you see supervillains put in, (Magneto in that one xmen movie. Loki in that one thor/avengers movie. Like, they need to retrieve information from her in their Senior Year, and they need to have Agent Clark like, bring them down a 50 story elevator behind a hidden door. Theres two security guards standing by just to turn 2 keys to open door. Tons of archano-tech warding to keep people from scrying, or using interplanar magic to travel there. Abolish actual prison, but for this joke, keep supervillain prison.

[@hihey229]

Sandralynn my beloved!!

[@likethecurrency]

such a good interview. props to caitlin for such great questions!

[@maestromazmorra9597]

Screen Rant, seriously, what's with the music you're adding to all the interviews? It makes it more difficult to hear and focus sometimes. You can just stop doing that extra bit of work to make your videos better.

[@sarahvnyc]

It really kills me. I had to bail about 5-10 minutes into the Worlds Beyond Number cast interview because the music was straight up giving me a headache. For people with imperfect hearing or audio processing issues it's just a nightmare playing music over a zoom interview.

[@zabithaluth3527]

Yall .. im not giving up on Kalina! I want him to twist the story to reveal that she is good and has to make incredible sacrifices to help her god.

[@bellona0544]

Brennan throwing in an “Um, Actually?”-style explanation of Cassandra’s name in the middle of his own monologue is very on-brand. Edit: JY also became my favorite season even before it had finished airing, overthrowing Starstruck by episode 10.

[@trinityspark7160]

Now I'm wondering is Arthur Eagfort the reason for the all the mayhem? He did travel into the past and is a master of Chronomancy?

[@zabithaluth3527]

Why did he travel to heaven and knock out sol?

[@trinityspark7160]

@@zabithaluth3527 Was that ever explained I dont remember

[@Metalwabbit]

At any given time there are like 20 apocalypses going on meaning there are so many chosen ones just around. Please tell me they're going to meet someone who was a chosen one, fulfilled their destiny and seeing what they do ten some odd years later. Are they living their best life? Are they a bitter washed up former star? Are they having an existential crisis realizing they had fulfilled their whole reason to be?

[@firelightfeather]

Really enjoyed this interview but the constant background music was super distracting! Would love a version without for easier listening purposes

[@CerberusPlusOne]

1:24 I swear Brennan previously said that he had planned Porter being a baddy since day 1.

[@sam6764]

The pic of Ally was such a jump scare. They look like Mr.Burns

[@seamusbenn2967]

YES! was Kristen’s rebound god.

[@Trintron46]

Gerdy! Minor! You will eat those words Brennan Lee Mulligan!

[@ecfeclipse]

Please come back to those characters and world.

[@scottreast]

The looping music makes me almost want to switch away from what is otherwise a fantastic interview

[@LiorMor1]

Nice interview, but the background music was a bit too much and overall detrimental

[@nerdymormon7]

Hearing that brennan has completely blocked out Augbert honestly explains a lot.

[@3ndlessL00p]

Hey, I'm 4 minutes in and I just gotta say: you don't need the music to be playing in the background throughout the whole video, it's getting to be distracting. Just let the interview play, please.

[@oakcanary4040]

There's barely any

[@MactasticChiTown]

100% agree.

[@cyanscholar5498]

6:55 George Lukas type worldbuilding

[@navdhillon7912]

Brennan is a national treasure

[@noemi9161]

Help is that Ayda's figurine in the background???

[@nightsky549]

Yes and you can get it at the dropout store

[@noemi9161]

@@nightsky549 😍😍😍😍

[@Salmiak]

Haha I just clocked those golden ears from Make Some Noise

[@davetoms1]

*"I DON'T NEED ANY MORE HAIR!!"* _~ Brennan Lee Mulligan_

[@iiTzDelta]

This season was just…. Blimey

[@baileyw6848]

brennannnnnnnn

[@nadamuchu]

please add captions for deaf fans like me.

[@carveylover]

They have captions. I watch with captions.

[@nadamuchu]

@@carveylover incorrect. They have auto-craptions. This is not the same thing as actual accessible captions.

[@CerberusPlusOne]

15:39 why would senior year be that far out?

[@msslaughterotter8188]

Hoot Growl ❤

[@teekessel]

I really need to know how they're going to explain Buddy still trying to follow a rage god and fucking off with Kalina (who helped the Bad Kids but was still unfairly treated in the end imo) after Ankarna removed all the crystals (or did she?). Why didn't he wake up with partial memory loss, since he was also influenced by a rage crystal. He seemed like a regular guy with no real connection to the Bad Kids like the others. Why did he end up like this? I can't make it make seeense. >o< It was probably a spur of the moment thing, but it's gonna bother me for the next 5 years. (Also was Jace actually pushed into the lava, or is he arrested. What is he like without the crystal?)

[@spenceduggs]

They really chose the MOST smargly picture of Beardsley possible, didn't they?

[@vanessapierson4913]

notes: kill the music. awesome how much you truly care about D20. great interview. and brennen is wrong: Gorgug’s year was the best of the year - finding a way to combine creativity with rage, and really finding his voice.

[@msslaughterotter8188]

Back to the future senior year 🤔

[@TheLokki242]

ScreenRant?? ScreenRant?????

[@BerrySD]

2:17 the vulture dimension destroyed Lou’s soul lol

[@eliburry-schnepp6012]

So no plans to make a season 2 of The Seven? 😢

[@emmakane6848]

I think it might be hard to get them all together for scheduling issues, but hopefully they continue that story eventually. Or the Pirates of Leviathan.

[@sparrowsayshi]

​@@emmakane6848 there was a very recent episode of Game Changer that had the entire cast of The Seven involved, so we know they were all on set at the same time for at least a little while. Fingers crossed!

[@nightsky549]

I appreciated the space allowed for new characters but did really miss Ayda

[@nelevenchts]

Kipperlily = Tommy Elliott

[@Taguren]

Blaarmy!!

[@ilexdiapason]

idk what those two people are talking about the music's fine

[@pilotflux8005]

the music is obnoxious

[@Dohyden2]

Fantasy High Senior Year is not coming out in 5 years, We're not waiting that long, ok you get 2 years tops! ok, 1 year to make a Crown of Candy 2 (Or the unsleeping city 3), 1 year to make the Fantasy High source book (Doesn't have to be a big book) Then it's Senior Year baby!

[@sparrowsayshi]

I doubt we'll get another Unsleeping City right now because they're going to do the thing at Madison Square Garden.

[@verysad7982]

Blimey!

[@HypertoxicFox]

Blimey!