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How to get stonework to look right!

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Brent Hull

Brent Hull

Күн бұрын

Building with authentic-looking stonework is hard today because most exterior stone is a veneer and not solid masonry. As a result, our stone houses can look like a flagstone patio. Come learn some tricks for laying up stone in an historic manner.
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@TheSlowBoarder
@TheSlowBoarder Жыл бұрын
How do you not have 20 million followers? You are a true craftsman. Please keeps the education coming!
@MTNPANTS
@MTNPANTS Жыл бұрын
Because we are the one in 1000 who truly appreciate the craft. Although 20 million people definitely like the way it looks ;)
@stevemiller7949
@stevemiller7949 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Very kind. Thanks.
@anitaanotherorchid294
@anitaanotherorchid294 Жыл бұрын
Flagstone patio on the wall.... that’s it exactly ! I could never quite put my finger on why the stone work I have been seeing lately just rubbed me the wrong way. Great video , thank you !
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks.
@debb8152
@debb8152 Жыл бұрын
love this--I am a theater designer Brent and so often I am doing a play with a stone wall --all made of styro or blue foam--the coursing is very important--it's not random--otherwise its never going to be believable. Now a rough stone wall is not the same as a building but there is a similar idea. As always it's a great talk.
@KevinSmith-qi5yn
@KevinSmith-qi5yn Жыл бұрын
Middle age stone walls also had a degree of coursing even if the stones themselves look random. They would typically include a coursing layer every several feet.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks!
@613kc
@613kc Жыл бұрын
The silo finish is perfect!!! 💯
@JoshPiland
@JoshPiland Жыл бұрын
I agree. It fooled me, I was like “Is that silo original? And they’re just restoring it?”
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Haha. Good. Thanks.
@ccwnyc5671
@ccwnyc5671 Жыл бұрын
I'll never look at a McMansion again without snickering inside.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
haha.
@tc9148
@tc9148 Жыл бұрын
So interesting. Love the analytical approach to follow historical precedent.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Cool! THanks.
@rolfselvig335
@rolfselvig335 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for explaining this to people who don’t understand, but there is so much of this crap installed on new builds and remodels where people just don’t understand and don’t bother to learn why they’re doing it. It’s really embarrassing for the industry and thank you for your video. Be well.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sagecleveland3953
@sagecleveland3953 Жыл бұрын
When I worked in new build construction I always tried to talk my clients out of that style of wall and they always ended up thanking me when the neighbors house was done and they saw the difference. Great video !
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 Жыл бұрын
What wall would you suggest to them instead?
@sagecleveland3953
@sagecleveland3953 Жыл бұрын
@@rubyoro0 just a different style of stone. The random pattern looks good at the show room but looks lazy and sloppy on a home.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Love that!
@RenovationFarmhouse
@RenovationFarmhouse Жыл бұрын
Great topic! Very helpful as I add stonework to my C.1890s farmhouse while taking inspiration from my fieldstone foundation.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Perfect. Thanks.
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc Жыл бұрын
If I ever build a house or have an old house to renovate, I'm hiring Brent and his crew.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@ompatel7194
@ompatel7194 Жыл бұрын
What a teacher!! You should train modern day professors.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks.
@spencer04629
@spencer04629 Жыл бұрын
So many cases of the flagstone patio up the walls of houses! Not only does coursing "look right" it gives a much stronger appearance to the stone walls. Good lesson
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
THanks!
@lizzapaolia959
@lizzapaolia959 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for sharing 👌🙏
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thanks for visiting
@scotchgirl9727
@scotchgirl9727 Жыл бұрын
This video was So Helpful! Thanks, Brent!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Great. Thanks for the feedback.
@michaelbissen1946
@michaelbissen1946 Жыл бұрын
Amen , brother!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@beverlyboys73
@beverlyboys73 Жыл бұрын
I can really appreciate your attention to detail. I have also done many, many samples before the final product. It is so important to get it right. Great work.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! THanks
@jacobwysopal5127
@jacobwysopal5127 Жыл бұрын
Very awesome. I really like how you explain what you have learned. The qoining on a lot of field stone homes in my area will show tooling marks where the mason would flatten the faces. The rest of the wall structure will be field stone face no modifications. I am assuming that it was done because you cannot find natural stone that is square on one end to make a finished corner.
@613kc
@613kc Жыл бұрын
You learn to guard your corners. i.e. A rookie laying one in the field. Big no no 😠
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thanks.
@Sylvainhomeimprove
@Sylvainhomeimprove Жыл бұрын
Great info. Will keep in mind if a customer wants a stone veneer done
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JoshPiland
@JoshPiland Жыл бұрын
Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. Flagstone patio walls.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
So true.
@neilvandenbrink5758
@neilvandenbrink5758 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Brent. How do you feel about the corners where the stone edges are shown? I ask because to me it appears that the corners reveal the secret that the stone is actually just a thin veneer. Typically the quoins would be large long all three axis. How might you overcome this, or is it not a concern?
@613kc
@613kc Жыл бұрын
100%! The corners 🙄 (I've built 16" double face. 8" single. Do not remember having this problem) Is it not legal to just build w/ Stone anymore? (structural) Brent -I'm adding you to my Heroes list!! Thanks sir! 🤠 hp
@613kc
@613kc Жыл бұрын
I like this work. last 2 minutes are a slide show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4WpnolpmcqKm7M
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Good question. It takes more work but can be done.
@neilvandenbrink5758
@neilvandenbrink5758 Жыл бұрын
@@BrentHull thanks for the reply. I understand these things are trade-offs between costs and effort, and benefit.
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, I think, the answer to your questions about how to do stone cladding is “Don’t!” Nothing like a California ranch with stone veneer halfway up the exterior.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks.
@kaosbboi
@kaosbboi Жыл бұрын
Why not just build stone wall like in the past. I admire Brent passion, concepts and teaching but I still think pasting stones on the wall is a facade amd not a true stone wall
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc Жыл бұрын
It would be much, much harder to meet modern code and likely way more expensive. You'd probably wind up building two walls anyway, with the outer wall being purely decorative even if it was a "real" wall.
@613kc
@613kc Жыл бұрын
💯 If you got the $ do it right. Otherwise, The silo is perfect. Thx Brent! What a great resource! hp
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
I agree. When you can, do it. Most architects don't know how to draw out the proper details.
@erawanpencil
@erawanpencil Жыл бұрын
​@@ckm-mkc Agreed, it doesn't look money is any obstacle for this homeowner though, so if there was a time to do stonework right this project would have been it, even if that would have meant two walls and one being decorative. There's nothing wrong with decoration by the way, that the whole point of architecture! The silo looks great, if it was me I would have carried that look to all the stone walls; would unify everything too... trying to make things look like they were built up and added to over time is a risky game since the eye will notice that everything looks new. We don't know what pressures the builder may be under, he very well might have wanted to build real stone walls but wasn't allowed to.
@bfelb
@bfelb Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting point to make because it directly reflects the change in thinking that happened around WW2. Like for example, stone walls were only created in areas with lots of stone, and only with the stones in that area. Makes sense. That necessity created a cultural style, ie Tuscan house is very different from a Belgian house. Now you just buy a plot of land in the Texas desert and pick a look. It’s expected that the stone masons, no matter how good there work is, will have trouble replicating a real wall, because that’s all they’re doing, replicating. I don’t want to knock on Brent’s work because the quality seems very high but it’s still just as fake as the McMansion others are ragging on.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I would counter that all we do is replicate. Why not replicate well. it doesn't cost anymore to do it right.
@LukeLongboneOfficial
@LukeLongboneOfficial 7 ай бұрын
There are probably 50 actual stone masons actively working in a given region. The guys doing the stone veneer are minor league compared to a true stone mason. You don’t see the “real” stonework that much anymore (even on multimillion dollar projects) because nobody knows anyone who can do it. True story.
@buds8423
@buds8423 Жыл бұрын
But what about the 1930’s petrified wood houses? In filled field stones usually laid any which size. They were a Texas child’s dream home!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Good point. In that case, the stone becomes part of the story. Thanks.
@gregschoolland5551
@gregschoolland5551 Жыл бұрын
Great perspective, much appreciated. Question: here in CA, code requires wall finishes (ie stone/siding) to be 4” above grade or 2” above flatwork. So everywhere you look stone is “hanging”. Do you run into that in Texas? Do you have a work around for that? Or a suggestion? Thanks!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Hmm, we don't have that here. We typically put a step down in the foundation so the stone sits just below grade. Would that pass in CA?
@stevemiller7949
@stevemiller7949 Жыл бұрын
At least nowadays there is Brent, the New Urbanists, the Institute for Classical Architecture, Christopher Alexander and a few others plus the internet. Just imagine how much ignorance there was circa 1970. This kind of knowledge then would have been mocked as quaint, irrelevant, hippieish , or too extravagant. No doubt it still is by millions. What percent of American homes use vinyl siding? Marlon Brando was in a movie called "The Ugly American". When, where, and why did " The Ugly American House Syndrome" take root?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
It all started after WWII. In my opinion. Slowly getting worse over the next 40 years. I think we are starting to reverse some of it.
@f.macmaster2891
@f.macmaster2891 8 ай бұрын
This is a disappointing video. I’ve been a stone mason and contractor for 50 years. Any mason with 5 years of experience with natural stone could have told you all that you have described and more that you haven’t discovered yet in the first 15 minute conversation . Your method of building several experimental walls had to be a very expensive and time consuming thing. You are big on books. There are a lot of books about this. You also seem to care only about how it looks not what it actually is. Frank Lloyd Wright would have hated it. You are a good finish carpenter. But you probably shouldn’t give advice about natural stone.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. My audience is not stone masons. My goal is to educate most builders (who don't know about stone or brick) and help them elevate their game. I've never claimed to be a master mason. I would love to watch your videos and learn more about stone work. Let me know where i can watch them. Thx.
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