Bret Weinstein - The USA Can Do Better | Real Talk with Zuby

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks for tuning in and thanks to Bret for coming on the show! I hope you enjoyed the conversation and found it enlightening. This episode is sponsored by Drive Thru History - who create entertaining, on-location history videos. To learn more, head to drivethruhistory.com/zuby and use the code ZUBY at checkout for 20% off.

[@Panjam-]

Good episode......DUDE

[@mewe3463]

I think you need a Zuby Clips channel as well. The long form interviews are great. However, cutting them up into smaller, topic based chunks, is really useful.

[@1halnass]

A positive suggestion my man... Wake up, move around, look around, and have some fun with your guest's! Put some energy in your questions and responses. It'll help you out from our viewpoint ✌️

[@ZubyMusic]

@@mewe3463 I plan to. I don't have a video editor yet and it's very time consuming amongst all the other things I do.

[@debramoore1428]

Zuby, what a kind and gentle voice of courage and intellect you deliver!

Bret would benefit from a conversation with living legend Dr. Thomas Sowell.

[@user-by4yj1vh5x]

I wouldn't miss that one for the world. 👍👍👍

[@a1b1c184]

I would love to get familiar with his plan for US government. Bret has said from day one #Unity2020 is meant to start a dialectic for something better than the duopoly. Ideas are great but it's time for different ideas if we except different results.

[@Kodiie]

@@a1b1c184 a nice idea but you can’t have a one sided conversation. Unfortunately the people that need to be talking to each other have given up on that. Frankly he would have had a better shot with a unity2016

[@Ohnonono123]

I'd love to see that, but to be fair I think Bret Weinstein's power level is already high enough!

[@howdoicreateacc6586]

Please bump this. That's amazing idea

[@GenX4ever]

Good podcast Zuby. Nice pacing, questions, interjecting just enough. You are a good host. Cheers!

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks!

[@michaellujan9440]

Agreed!

[@martinharvey6329]

Fascinating interview with Bret Weinstein and probably the best one I've ever seen of him discussing many issues of today. What was really interesting is, that you agreed on many points. But, when you had different views, you listened to one another. That's a true discussion! 👏

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

You got Douglas Murray AND Bret Weinstein in the same month? Move over Joe Rogan ;)

[@swingset1969]

Yeah, but Zuby lacks DMT & shaved gorilla content.

[@renaissancestatesman]

I think Lex is slipping into that vacuum.

[@DavidAsh42]

Yes! Bret and Zuby! I'm really looking forward to this conversation. Both of you are inspirational human beings. Your words breathe sanity into a crazy world.

[@rachelgutierrez6396]

I remember Zuby from Saudi. It’s awesome to see him doing so well.

[@peripheralinkling]

The manner of your speech, Zuby, and your continuity of thought drew thoughts and speech from Bret that were nuanced differently from what I've previously heard from him. I love listening to both of you, but this conversation was something special. Thanks, bruv.

[@SRM2025]

Two of my favourite podcasters collaborating - why yes thank you very much Gentleman 👍

[@cosmicdrambler3384]

I love Bret's idea at the end about the adaptive valley and the new peak to search for. Great interview Zuby!!

[@huskypup3489]

I think instead of constantly talking about racism, we should talk in broader terms about prejudice, which is simply judging someone or something based on limited information. Prejudice is necessary for our individual survival, and you'll NEVER eliminate it, nor should we try. The key is getting more information and assimilating it to refine our opinion, and then judging fairly based on sufficient information. This is what happens on a job interview for example--you might make assumptions about someone when they walk in the door, but it's only through a quality discussion that you determine who they really are. I had never heard of Zuby before listening to this podcast, but I can say, the least interesting thing about him is that he's black, and that's because I listened to him speak for an hour.

[@bartvandamme7068]

Bret has the ability to take complex situations, analyze them to the bottom, and then paint a picture that everyone can understand. Great interview!

[@TheLittleLadyCook]

Looking forward to your conversation Zuby + Brett!

[@PrintAndPlayPodcast]

Another wonderful interview. I could listen to you guys all day.

[@yyzkate1877]

Just found Zuby, through Triggernometry boys. Love Bret. All a dose of sanity.

[@drgeorgek]

Me too. Sensational stuff. Great to hear we’ve had the same coincidence. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺

[@nanchesca3950]

Saw Zuby on Joe Rogan but didn't watch the episode before I saw him on Triggernometry, enjoyed it so much I went back and watched his appearance on Rogan, great stuff!!👍 Was introduced to Bret on Rogan also, couple years back, along with Jordan Peterson

[@nicholas1254]

The 'prehistoric farmer' answer to wealth inequality doesn't go far enough for an evolutionary biologist, as most hunter gather communities studied show that humans outright kill when greed is taken too far and it could be considered a universal human taboo.

[@nolan412]

That's why fences and walls were invented.

[@JRC_86]

Sending good vibes and appreciation to you from Little Rock, Arkansas. Keep spreading the good word 🙏

[@mackturner1505]

I love both of these people so much! Thanks for the conversation!

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@puddspudds5102]

Enjoyed this ..love Brett and Heather. Have subbed to this channel . 😃

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks!

[@LearnEnglishwithJames.]

Just like Douglas Murray...this is going to be good!

[@zackfair6791]

Yeah...i mean i disagree with Bret on a lot and i think he is too far left but he is still one of the more reasonable leftists. I will def give this a watch.

[@visitthebravenewnormaldotc5436]

@@zackfair6791 would you prefer nobody was "too left" for your personal perspectives or is it valuable to have someone in the dialogos who is at the edge yet still reasonable? Not trolling just curious from your wording

[@LearnEnglishwithJames.]

Pankaj पंकज पद्मबन्धु it's pretty difficult to respond politely to someone who finishes their question calling your avatar "trashy". Why don't you try again but maybe ask the question politely, then you might get an answer to your question.

[@visitthebravenewnormaldotc5436]

@@LearnEnglishwithJames. why do you promote Google for free with your avatar

[@LearnEnglishwithJames.]

Pankaj पंकज पद्मबन्धु Ok, as I have many accounts and switch between them frequently it makes sense for me to have the avatar of the account I am using at any given time. It is not about "promoting" (I'm sure Google needs no extra promotion) but rather about me distinguishing between my accounts quickly based on the avatar of that account. I hope that makes sense.

[@Panjam-]

Zuby, I wish you were American and would run for office. I like your perspective and your positive outlook on things.

[@MrFolky77]

Two smart, courageous and handsome men! Can't miss that!

[@Sam-go3mb]

Omg don't obejctify them!!!11!

[@MrFolky77]

@@Sam-go3mb lol

[@Sam-go3mb]

@@MrFolky77 omg "lol" is that a racist dogwhistle, was that a microagrression!???!! does it stand for 'lightskin only lads' !?!?

[@beaucannington8616]

As a conservative Libertarian, these two gentlemen (as well as Bret's brother and his wife) are all classical liberals that I respect and actually agree with on many topics. Great podcast! Thank you both.

[@GOGOLH]

Bret is on the actual left - ie main focus on class issues.

[@beaucannington8616]

Yea, I know - you are correct. It's interesting how definitions change over time. I think leftward leaning libertarian is a better term, since that's what he recently used to describe himself (and Heather too I think). As long as it's not communist or Marxist, we (on the moderate right) can work with that.

[@GOGOLH]

@@beaucannington8616 So-called progressive parties in the US (and UK) have replaced "promises" to actually make lives better with all manner of nonsense re ID politics, which they no doubt see as some of alchemy (the idiots), and here we are (sigh). It's become difficult to disentangle "class" issues from wokeist gobbledygook. But Bret's great - sanity, humanity and so astute.

[@GOGOLH]

"some kind of alchemy"

[@beaucannington8616]

@@GOGOLH Totally agree...too much 'noise' and woke nonsense and not enough legitimate 'signal' or, at least, effective conversation on how best to move us all forward.

[@stackcoin3892]

The problem with Unity 2020 is that Bret thinks Mr "Im afraid to stand up for myself and I sold out to CNN the second I lost" Yang is a centrist, or is a benevolent person.. Yang gives off the illusion but hes as extreme in his policies as everyone else on the democratic debate stage.

[@peterlee3467]

Yang is just towing the party line temporarily. MAny of his friends/supporters who helped him leunch his run last year still support him, while they personally hate CNN and the DNC, they say they understand Yang is playing the long game so he doesn't get the Ron Paul/Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Even Marianne Williamson was was so anti-establishment was a guest on Yang Speaks last week and she pressed Yang on him being part of "the cool kids table" now while both of them were in the same boat in early 2019. She's the only one of the far left/Bernie faction of the left who has compassion for YAng and doesn't blame him for doing what he's doing thes days...but she also thinks Yang is being naive if he thinks there is any hope for the democratic party. Yang in response, simply was kind of silent, he didn't even tell her he disagreed with her. And Matt, Yang's online campaign editor, said he is an independent who will probably vote Trump. YAng's main campaign manager, Zack, has consistently encouraged Yang's supporters to keep supporting him for a 2024 run, which shows they are secretly hoping Trump wins.

[@stackcoin3892]

@@peterlee3467 Hmm interesting

[@robsimer9296]

Where YANG ended up, is a good indication of where YANG came from. Do you really think a 30 something nobody gets valuable corporate time because he was popular to a few progressives?

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

@@peterlee3467 :Williamson was, just a few weeks ago, telling people to vote Biden anyway. Doesn't really jibe with how you're painting her now as anti-establsihement. Sounds like she is all over the road and saying whatever she thinks will get her eyeballs. She is not the spiritual guru that she's presenting herself as. She was not too long ago completely caught up in Trump derangement. That also doesn't fit with an enlightened person. A truly spiritual minded person could dislike Trump, oppose Trump, work full throatily against him, but would not resort to the simplistic rhetoric of calling him a fascist or an existential threat. Again, the whole point of a spiritual calling is to rise above the that kind of lowly passion. She doesn't walk the walk, she's not the real deal.

[@susanzeidler3960]

But Yang wasn't chosen by Unity. Crenshaw and Gabbard were

[@mljrotag6343]

I see focusing on income inequality rather than poverty as basically evny management. I'm on board with that election concept with Tulsi and Crenshaw.

[@susanellison9116]

Great conversation between two very smart people! This was time well spent. Thank you!

[@brendarodriguez5630]

Excellent discussion

[@purplephatam]

More people should be watching this.

[@jeff-crankyxer1931]

I recently subscribed to your channel. First heard of you when you were interviewed by Candice Owens. What a wonderful concept, having a civilized discussion without people shouting at each other, even with people who are your political opposite. Also watched your interview with Douglas Murray. Fantastic.

[@LauraDiamondWise]

Thank you, Zuby & Bret.

[@ZubyMusic]

You're welcome!

[@galacticecho7027]

Thanks, Zuby, for reminding me I am not the only person in the 25-35 range who is absolutely confused at the efforts towards re-segregation.

[@jesswhited9895]

Dan Crenshaw and Tulsi Gabbard... I like it!!

[@MS-jz9ne]

I like Zuby very much, and Bret too. Congrats!

[@wadetisthammer3612]

19:00 to 23:36 - Holy crap; such a great question and an intelligent answer.

[@RodneySeay]

You both were amazing! I love listening to Brett and his wife. Zuby is that’s your name, thank you for speaking the truth. I love others tackling this topic without hate. Thanks again for sharing🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@hunt7891]

Great conversation. Gives me hope that maybe we can unit the country if we have sane, reasonable and tolerant people on both sides involved in politics. Unfortunately this is not the norm for now.

[@bandyboo2805]

I saw a documentary on Mr Weinstein on the high school last year. it was the wake up moment for me.

[@dirtywetdogboatsandsailing6805]

Hiya Zuby, i think one of the things you are looking for in wealth distribution is that it's a 'Pareto' distribution which you also find in any creative venture....not a normal or standard bell curve. Good chat btw,

[@conrad1on]

1:05:29 Small point, but if it's the Football Lads that Zuby is referring to here, they weren't actually doing Nazi salutes at the statue protests. This was something that was cooked up based on the fact that there was a photograph taken from a side angle that showed some of them raising their arms above their heads while they did football chants. I believe that someone even went as far as to take audio from an old march featuring the actual far-right and laid it over the footage to try and cement the narrative that these people were fascists. There may well be all sorts of good reasons to criticise the Football Lads and similar groups, but being neo-Nazis is not one of them. It's just slightly irritating because many conservative commentators also bought into this idea, and whenever I hear it repeated it kind of demonstrates how easily false narratives can be successfully deployed.

[@frankvuletin8700]

Don’t worry we have a spare Portland LMFAO. I miss the non crazy liberals they knew how to laugh. This polarization is crazy any system needs balance to function. The conservatives make it run and the liberals to bring them in line when they move too far off center. Similarly liberals tend to be creative and come up with new ways of doing things and conservatives call them out when the concept or policy is too far out. If I described myself it would be small C conservative but more liberal for social nets. We need a multitude of ideas and ways of thinking as that is the way our society has moved forward. We’ve made our mistakes but by in large we work to improvement for everyone. Making everyone have the opportunity to be their best self is only beneficial to society as a whole

[@esotericagenda]

Hell yeah, this is going to be great!

[@TerryStewart32]

When will you get Akala on your podcast? It would be a stimulating conversation between the two of you

[@chlodelune8387]

great discussion!! so glad i found your channel i like your interviewing style.

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks!

[@huskypup3489]

Good discussion. I would suggest that we dispense with the obligatory, “where can people find your (insert on-line content)” at the end. We all have Bing and Google, so if you spelled Bret’s name correctly in the title, we can find his on-line content.

[@puffpasslogic729]

23:00 The false idea at the center of all of that thinking is to assume that that $99 billion dollars would have otherwise been available to anyone without him operating business the particular way he has. That money wasn’t going to fall out of the sky for the greater good simply because people willed it so. Those sort of ridiculous analogies or comparisons are absolutely nonsensical. And if people disagree with someone obtaining gross amounts of wealth and gaming against competitors then it’s not the individuals but the rules of the system that need managing.

[@susanzeidler3960]

That's true. That makes the same sense as AOC thinking the NY/amazon tax breaks would be available to use for the poor. And also it's not a zero sum game. We need stop focusing on how much others have and focus on the rules of the system. We need a level playing field where the big guys play by the rules too.

[@markschoch9509]

Hey Zuby, too bad you and Bret couldn't be on the Unity 2024 presidential ticket.

[@introspectivelyliving3315]

such an insightful and open conversation! This is what keeps me hopeful for the future! 🙌🏻😊

[@ZubyMusic]

Glad you liked it!

[@kristivice5537]

I am grateful for Weinstein’s perspective and willingness to add nuance to these arguments. And, just because two people are in disagreement, both are not necessarily behaving badly. Sometimes just one person is having a tantrum.

[@Colorado_Aaron]

Great conversation!

[@npickard4218]

@37 mins, Bret's distinction between patriotism and nationalism is highly contested. Generally speaking, it's a rabbit's hole. It requires an hour long discussion to which their is no resolution since it involves subjectivity. Essentially, it shouldn't be brought up in a debate/discussion because it's a pivot.

[@sdbrimer42]

Zuby is my hero

[@kellybrown5312]

Two favourites in one place 😍

[@martinharvey6329]

Zuby...Darren Grimes latest story, would be an interesting topic!🤫🤔

[@JM-ig4ed]

I disagree with you Brett on this one point - giving money to people who don't want to work for it will never incentivice them to want to work.

[@akniznik]

Perhaps you should define 'work'. We have been conditioned to think of work as putting in 8 hours a day for 5 days in a row like a clockwork robot. Change the word work to productivity. Some productivity is achieved with a 40 hour week and some can be achieved with minimal effort. As long as the sum total of our collective productivity enhances the world why should we care if not everyone pulls their weight. That burden lies with them and their conscience.

[@akniznik]

@Robert Kavanagh anyone who measures their dreams and success against those of a broken and selfish person has their priorities grossly mismanaged and may in fact need more help then the person who decides they will contribute nothing.

[@akniznik]

@Robert Kavanagh I thought we were discussing Universal Basic Income. Everyone would receive the same amount. Why are some people struggling to make ends meet while being given the same amount of money as everyone else?

[@Ahabite]

Isn't it interesting that those who find flaws in our current systems will not entertain even the possibility of a flaw in what they propose?

[@alexlindstrom555]

Is it possible that Trump actually caters to the American people...and that’s not what we’re used to?

[@ledaswan5990]

No,that’s not possible. If you think Trump actually cares about anyone but himself I have some oceanfront property in Nebraska you might want to take a look at. Remember the time Trump said Republicans are stupid and easy to scam? He thinks working people are suckers. Good luck with that.

[@MrRight1000]

Trump ran his 2016 campaign on behalf of "forgotten men an women". It is painfully evident that the "forgotten men and women" are more forgotten than ever. It is not entirely his fault. Global capital amassed so much wealth and power, penetrated US Congress so deeply, that any attempt to improve lives of common Americans becomes a failed attempt from the get-go.

[@robsimer9296]

@@ledaswan5990 I thought this was an intellectual conversation. Put your emotional bias in a box if you want to be taken seriously.

[@rpjswish]

I believe he is a true (raw) populist. And he cares about America.. his back story is intriguing (all the way back to his grandfather's immigration.) Many won't go beyond the media or memes.

[@AKStorm49]

@@ledaswan5990 Do you remember a time when "I may viscerally disagree with what you say but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it." was a liberal idea pushed by Democrats? My beliefs haven't shifted much since high school (late 00s) and I was considered a moderate but now majority of my beliefs, including that statement above is considered conservative/Republican. As many people have said, "I haven't left the Left, the Left left me." Something to consider and I hope you have a fine day.

[@maryhenri3254]

I'm glad Bret doesn't have much first-hand experience with homelessness to come that erroneous as its cause. I do have first-hand experience. Drugs, the flood of insanely potent drugs from China via Mexican cartel, drugs are the cause.

[@swingset1969]

Mental illness is the other cause, and the complete lack of institutional structure to care for or house the ill.

[@maryhenri3254]

@@swingset1969 A lot of the mental illness comes from drug use - meth and fentanyl foremost. I've known completely sane friends, acquaintances and loved ones lose their minds AFTER the drugs. And some their lives.

[@renaissancestatesman]

Drugs are a cause. One of many causes.

[@TheBradleyBliss]

this is wild because I just started watching clips from the Dark Horse Podcast a few days ago lol

[@kjellbjrnasmo480]

The dark horse podcast is great. Check out his brother Eric Weinstein on “The Portal” (also a great podcast)

[@charliecampbell6851]

Kjellbjørn Åsmo yes yes yes. Eric is a much heavier podcast. You really have to ready yourself for an extremely high level 3 hour conversation about topics you often know nothing about.

[@kjellbjrnasmo480]

Charlie Campbell indeed, but he is awfully engaging and entertaining.

[@missyandromeda]

Wow! So many good moments!

[@Stringz]

It won’t be okay for most people. I know human nature too well. Things would have changed on my end for the better by now. Unfortunately my own life seems to be highly correlated with the reality all of us face here. It could just be extremely coincidental over decades, but I don’t think so. If people like myself who were already struggling are dying off rapidly and the best of character are dying off while more and more insane people join together ... eh it’s gone on too long and there’s far too much potential for horror from here out. The class war is the worst war. I didn’t ever have a chance. I had to spend most of my life confined to a bed being abused by my parents. Up til I was 30 I didn’t even get to live anywhere else. Been to the depths of hell from my own body’s pain. Pain that took away my feeling of anything good at all. Then I survived through it all... off and on painkillers and so on... got off everything that they put me on... stayed off... did everything right... fight as hard as I could for so long... painkillers and that fight is nothing comparative to everything else. That was like 20 years ago. endless shit I’d have to say endless books of lives I’ve lived for what... it’s all useless and was all for nothing. Especially when every moment is pain. And pain I figured out. Not one moment did I have to life this way, but they forced me. I only lived in the truth and had the best morals because that’s all I have of value. For what? I survived through everything learning more than many do by simply surviving and continuity no survive and utilizing what I could. This game never ends. And it’s a horrible game. It could have been very different. It could have been amazing. I knew all the math since I was a small child and understood it well. I was just held back completely by things I never should have been living with, period. Especially to die this way with zero coming from it and being tortured to the very end. It never had to be this way. There will never be any connecting to anyone like me and that’s that.

[@cathymays8746]

So sorry this is your lot. The world is insane, no doubt.

[@chrisfazio9934]

I hope you can use your pain and fucked up experiences to create something beautiful (the essence of Alchemy). You’ve got a wealth of depth to your soul and there are ways out of the sense of defeat. It was only for nothing if you believe it was for nothing, and you don’t have to accept that belief.

[@johnpersonsii5104]

Commenting here on the part where they talk about Bezos. I think what Bret is talking about would be great in a utopia but we live in a fallen world. Who in this world would get to decide how much is too much? Who gets to decide where the "extra" money goes? The only fair thing to do is to allow people to make money and do what they want with it regardless of how much is generated. Otherwise it's tyranny.

[@zbjordan23]

This only works in a meritocracy. But this current world is not. The super rich will use their resources to crush your ability to do the same. They change the rules, change the laws, so you can't compete on an even playing field. That's what Brett is describing.

[@shifter1089]

At the moment, our youth could be convinced a bottle of antifreeze is good to drink if it was labeled as Gatorade

[@renaissancestatesman]

Who decides what is enough, Bret? Who sets the prices? Who sets the bar for driving innovation?

[@torbjornkarlsen]

Great conversation! One remark though; saying that the problem of capitalism and inequality is about jealousy is really missing the point. Big time. Bret made excellent points about this, but one could go much, much further. That being said; even the jealousy part of the problem should be taken seriously, because it is appropriate to be jealous when somebody are filthy rich and doesn't deserve it by a long shot.

[@glennmitchell9107]

Label inflation, or slander. Being too clever with words is playing the deconstructionists' game.

[@antonyspiteri5917]

I agree people shouldn’t be looking at the gaps between themselves. It’s like their mindsets are wired up back to front focused on the lusts of this world, rather than being content and grateful at what God has provided for us at an individual level. Things could certainly be a lot worse but it’s all too easy to focus instead on the success of others and envy their material wealth.

[@MikeandGinger]

I would LOVE to see a Crenshaw/Gabbard ticket!

[@chriswhinery925]

That's going to be a hard sell for the Democrats. I think Crenshaw is much more palatable to the Republicans than Gabbard is to the Dems. The more sane Dems like her but they're not the ones in charge of the party.

[@gregfaircloth6440]

Unfortunately it’s all about what the oligarchy supports. Twitter was throwing shade at unity from the beginning

[@mdhen4]

I second that.

[@stacydacosta2437]

Unity2020 needs to stay alive after 2020. It deserves to be taken on the road immediately ... as intimately as visiting people's living rooms. And I would start with people 35 + because maturity brings sobriety. Think that work should be done to identify members of a congressional body, at state and federal levels. Thanks for what you are doing.

[@diegotejera2742]

With a better "return on our investment" he speaks of I believe there will be even more innovation

[@andrewthwaites855]

I love the choice for unity 2020

[@gardendwellerTX]

Great Podcast

[@DrumL3000]

Tulsi Gabbard and Dan Cranshaw are very very good picks

[@PoxikFrostbite]

As much as I love Bret, I really hate his misunderstanding (and most people's misunderstanding) of something like the Besos fortune. It's not liquid. It's not just cash you can somehow redistribute. It's literally an appraisal of his share of companies. His company is also adding value to the mix. They aren't just sitting behind a desk and collecting the cream. If people want a share of that they can literally buy it on the stock market. I do agree that governments shouldn't be giving special favors to Goliath, but Amazon is not a monopoly. Amazon has a real absolute advantage when it comes to economies of scale in a few different sectors, but their model literally says "come in and compete with us." Now if it were found that Amazon was not competing fairly and was deranking sellers on their marketplace to push their own goods, then that would be a problem. We're not talking oil or utilities; we're talking about a digital marketplace. With no real physical monopoly there really isn't one. People can choose to go elsewhere even if Amazon might be one of the paths of least resistance. That's a powerful force, but not a monopoly. I also disagree with Bret's assertion that Amazon is working on such a low margin to drive competition out. Really I think it has to do with Amazon finding a more efficient method with an economic tradeoff. With no retail overhead they can sell at a lower price, but people have to trust the product without seeing it in person. If nobody trusts Amazon or its sellers, nobody is going to buy there and Amazon will lose its market share. Part of the value of their service is making sure their customers get what they pay for. I've told this to several people that are thinking of starting a business; you are either a service business or a convenience store, or a mix. The big box store is dead. The corner store will always be alive and well because some people will value convenience over the best price.

[@swingset1969]

The left continually conflates wealth with resources, too. As if Jeff's fortune exists because a bunch of people don't have the dollars he's holding onto under his giant mattress. That's not how it works, and if you look at the value & employment Bezos ADDS to the nation, it vastly, utterly outstrips his personal wealth on orders of magnitude...to include taxes collected. The left just doesn't want to see economics for what they are, instead of what they want them to be.

[@PoxikFrostbite]

@@swingset1969 all high earning individuals pay Alternative Minimum Tax. There are ways to personally benefit from company amenities, and I think this is usually part of what people actually complain about. There are lots of federal, state, and local rules around those things, and they change regularly. It is also striking that the most hated minority of all is the wealthy and that these critical theorists don't realize they are the oppressors in that relationship.

[@renaissancestatesman]

Why was the playing field tilted in Jeff's favor in the first place? Anti trust is always trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Prevent the escape in the first place by massively cutting barriers to entry, namely tax favoritism, regulation and the regulatory capture that necessarily follows, and general bureaucracy.

[@michaeljack6517]

“Overreaction” is a great observation.

[@TpolTime]

Bret hits the nail on the head with the problem with wealth inequality. Wealth gives people opportunity, power and influence so having it so unevenly distributed will inevitably result in an oligarchy where the rich exploit the poor.

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

PS - it's 'semi-weekly' which means twice per week (which is how often Bret and Heather do DarkHorse Podcast). Every 'half-week' is what it's suggesting, like a semi-circle (half circle). 'Bi-weekly' means every two weeks. Nerd alert.

[@chrisfazio9934]

Actually .... unfortunately, “bi-weekly” has come to be accepted as meaning both “once every two weeks” AND “twice a week.” The ambiguity and potential for consequential miscommunication is a travesty, and I’m afraid that “bi-weekly” has become unusable as a result.

[@chrisfazio9934]

Oh, and allow me to chime back in and say that my intuitions are in line with yours on how the word should be used. Until we write the dictionaries and pedantically enforce their contents with an iron fist, I shall reluctantly opt for the clumsy “twice weekly” and “once every two weeks” when amongst laypeople, and “once fortnightly” when speaking with nerds.

[@richardcooke7909]

Bret, who is responsible for people that fall off the bottom, Federal or States governments?

[@TheThriftShopSampler]

Most billionaires are billionaires because of Corporatism, not Capitalism.

[@tinkermcgruff7743]

great talk.

[@alieschabel3983]

Love him and his family and cats and doggo

[@johnbuckner2828]

Gabbard/Crenshaw 2020!

[@lmn6440]

The problems they're talking about at 9:30 can be resolved by decriminalizing drug use. The War on Drugs is the source of so many of Americans' social problems.

[@FrogInPot]

Is there an inherent danger in the Unity 2020 that if after having been in power in the distant future, having acquired subordinate members and developed as a Party, that then someone of to much behind the scenes unknown power, then is able to effectively rule for double the time by ruling through their subordinate partner. Taking on the common President and Prime Minister arrangement in Authoritarian States?

[@hiphopman72]

Bret for president

[@OptimusPrime-vg2ti]

Good news everyone -- Jordan Peterson is back today with a video. His health is better now and he will be making more videos soon! Just in time to save Western civilization! If any one can do it, it's Jordan B Peterson! (cue Gandalf revival scene in LOTR)

[@renaissancestatesman]

Jordan the Grey has become Jordan the White.

[@FrogInPot]

But Brett somehow reducing the amount or rate a Billionaire earns per achievement may not matter because they all typically stay just as driven if not more to earn once they're Big Men, rather it's the ability to more easily take on Rent Seeking behaviors to continue earning once they have enough Capital. Reducing what they first earn will merely relatively have them using what will also become a higher valued Currency to still go straight into Rent Seeking

[@FrogInPot]

You're right mate restoring the Anti Trust Laws is the way to go

[@idanceforpennies281]

The difference is when people see that someone like Jeff Bezos pays a fraction of a cent on the dollar in tax, whilst ordinary people pay 30%, that's where the outrage on inequality comes forth. People who can game the system to others' detriment are going to elicit the well-founded belief that society is stacked against the common person and poor people in particular.

[@MsMounen]

I have a problem with the super rich committing crimes and getting away with it. There seems to be a different set of rules for them.

[@StrategicWealthLLC]

I dance for pennies - You see Amazon paying a fraction of a percent. You have no idea what Bezos is paying. They are different taxpayers.

[@nolan412]

The people are still ordering from Amazon. It's not the trillions The Fed has going to the banks and Wall Street?

[@idanceforpennies281]

@@nolan412 The Fed *is* Wall St. This is the basic problem since it was established in 1913. Americans think that the Fed is government-controlled. It isn't.

[@thedaythatendsinY]

Bret also seems to make up entirely his own definitions for "Patriotism" and "nationalism" seemingly out of thin air and presumably to fit his world view. It is ironic that he chastised Nationalism while later indicating the need for America to stay front and center on the world stage if at a minimum ad a defense against less stellar actors from taking its place yet the only way for any nation to stay front and center on the world stage is through Nationalism. I like a lot of what Bret says but in nearly ever segment I've seen him do he displays a distinct set of biases toward the national identity and the defense there of. He will promote conservation of reasonable power and the tools that encourage stability and then denounce the tools themselves. Bret seems to live on a world where he isn't self aware enough to see his hypocrisy in this regards or perhaps he like many other intellectuals seem to think higher of human nature than they aught to and thus negate it along with the distasteful things societies must do to deal with it. I'm really quite tired of intellectuals with massive intellects lacking worldly experience and then spouting off about how we should be as if they got their play book from a Gene Roddenberry setting.

[@rpjswish]

Well said, you nailed the "cognitive dissonance" I often feel. It really shows in the #unity2020 discussion.. you're a patriot if you think a certain way. America is vast and complex.

[@tererai7936]

Thanks for articulating this! 💯 He is guiltier of this than his brother and I think it has a lot to do with thinking better of humanity than it altogether deserves. I think it is symptomatic of former progressives who can rightly call out their left wing fellows but cannot bear to place themselves as “right” as is appropriate for the crisis we find ourselves in. They see fully well that voting for Biden is pure madness but still virtue signal by saying they will not voting for Trump as if it is a valid third option. It’s clearly not!

[@huskypup3489]

I agree. I'm not going to waste my vote on a third party in this election. Trump, with all his foibles, is the only thing standing between us and having critical race theory crammed down our throats. The Democrats are doubling down on stupid--namely Affirmative Action--a policy which never should have been allowed because it's not color blind. I want a color blind society, and we're within a gnat's ass of being there now, but the Left will never admit it.

[@MagruderSpoots]

@@huskypup3489 I'm not American, but it drives me crazy when I hear people say they can't vote for Trump but they also recognize what a threat Biden/Harris is. Even if you think Trump has done something wrong, what has been so bad that you can't recover from?

[@susanzeidler3960]

I agree with what you're saying but I don't think it's a big problem. No one person can have all the answers. He speaks based on his idea of "utopia". Then we as the listener take what is useful and build on it. Ideas bounce around, morph and change with each contributer, and hopefully the best version of it wins out in the end. That's not happening in our government right now but I guess that's my utopia speak coming out 😝😆

[@800iq2]

Isn't Bezo's net worth mostly in stocks in Amazon. He doesn't exactly have $100,000,000,000 sitting liquid in a bank account not stimulating the economy. It wouldn't advise owners to liquidate their assets like that.

[@glennmitchell9107]

The discussion about wealth distribution and Bezos' incentivization depends on Bret's fantasy that he can better calculate the proper marginal incentive better than the market. No man, no matter how morally superior and philosophically pure, is better than the crowd of humanity at determining their own self interest. It's scary watching him try.

[@adamjones8356]

The chicken brothers

[@glennmitchell9107]

@Bob Charles Society doesn't need a plethora of Bezos-like unicorns to justify the argument for increasing the marginal number of geniuses or even the number of basic reliable citizens contributing to that society. I just don't see the pros outweighing the cons for any active redistributive intervention once minimal childhood health and basic equality under the law are guaranteed. Populations that understand and value the benefits to themselves for merit based employment and early and continued education will quickly replace those that don't. It is a condescending and false belief that people can't come to that understanding voluntarily. Progressives don't need the state to enforce this understanding. They do need the state to enforce all their less obvious "good ideas" (cunning plans).

[@piushalg8175]

Bret doesn't understand that money has to be accumulated in order to invest in expensive reseaerch and very risky development-projects etc., in other words there must be huge venture-capital in order to keep going the economy.

[@kimj5037]

I think Bret nailed it. The left has been deaf to the unintended consequences of its overly enthusiastic social policies (Thomas Sowell's Discrimination and Disparities is full of examples) and the right has promoted a false story that things are better than they are. Police are basically functioning as quasi social workers dealing with the mental health crisis. This is not a good solution. The exact same thing is happening up here in Canada.

[@kbeetles]

Having an incredible amount of information in your pocket is not necessarily good! I remember the world before iphones- it was happening at a pace more compatible with the human nervous system. It was more peaceful, we were generally more resourceful and practically/artistically more creative....

[@margo662]

Great guys, but hey let’s hear more from your guest, ie: get to asking the question quicker, your guests are going to be the more expert on the subject. Love these podcasts.

[@oliverschlesinger6744]

this feels like medidation for the rational mind ... thanks!

[@DisposableHero2012]

God damn it how have i missed this one! 2 of my favourite people :)

[@patriciathewisher2315]

Think Zuby should have let his guest speak more.

[@Joshua52391]

wtf are you talking about? bret was speaking a lot, zuby didnt even interrupt him

[@idanceforpennies281]

I'm not religious, (actually an Atheist) but even I can see that Christianity eventually revealed to people the inherent contradiction of the message "all people are created equal" with things like slavery and racial oppression. It was inevitable that the contradiction would initiate change. To remove the fundamental basis of law, public governance and societal values in favour of a Marxist/Anarchist failed experiment is the "end of days". To quote the Bible.

[@bigdizzle8120]

@Zuby upgrade that camera bro.