Brexit Debate: Ken Clarke on Brexit hangovers and amendments

Speaking ahead of Friday's vote, Father of the House of Commons Ken Clarke discusses amendments, indicative votes and UK politics getting over Brexit - in Gary Gibbon's latest Politics: Where Next podcast. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
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[@ibenzawla]

I enjoyed this interview. More like a conversation between an experienced journalist and quite possibly one of the few adults in modern day British politics.

[@tomrawley6549]

hes a dinosaur

[@oursentenceisup]

@@tomrawley6549 Dinosaurs are cool?

[@tomrawley6549]

@@oursentenceisup unless they vote to remain , thats why they are extinct !

[@tomrawley6549]

@@oursentenceisup yeah yeah , whatever

[@professorcadabra1185]

14:47 He gives a clear indication of what he thinks of us plebs. Typical ruling classes with nothing but contempt for the masses.

[@theoriginalgiz]

They say the thing about common sense is that it isn't that common, good to see that Ken Clarke has plenty of common sense.

[@HealthyMindProject]

I have never been a Tory voter, but I would vote for Kenneth Clarke. Who would you want representing the UK as a statesman on the global stage, Ken or Boris the buffoon?

[@tomrawley6549]

clarke is an idiot, do your research

[@joshdaws1151]

Such a shame he was never Prime Minister. Such a wonderful man.

[@mrkellysch]

Undemocratic imbicille who believes people should be ignored because parliament knows better. Said this on question time

[@the_9ent]

Mr Kelly Why? He voted for May’s deal to leave. DUP ERG voted against it.

[@tomrawley6549]

your joking ofcourse

[@willbrown5860]

@@the_9ent... he is a NWO / Bilderberger who would have us trapped in the EU and Euro currency years ago .

[@merseybeat1963]

Your Radar is faulty..he is an EU man...best that you leave all the major household decisions to your partner.

[@tigereye1208]

I am strongly against most things Conservative however I have enormous respect for Kenneth Clarke. One of the few.

[@HealthyMindProject]

Same here!

[@partybiscuit]

I used to have.

[@johnbowen7314]

The only potential Tory PM I would wholeheartedly have voted to see in power, talking sense as usual.

[@cuttight]

One of the biggest, most inexcusable mistakes the Tories have ever made was not electing him leader of the party. They had a few opportunities but wasted all of them. Instead, they chose lightweights, like Ian Duncan Smith and the former PR executive, David Cameron whose idea of leadership was leading by Daily Mail and Telegraph opinion poll. Had Ken Clarke been elected to lead the Conservatives, the party and the whole country would have been in a much better place now.

[@Anna-tj7mp]

The best British politician alive. I have never voted Conservative and I adore him.

[@peerless67]

The best Labour MP that never was

[@HealthyMindProject]

I feel the same. A true gent and statesman.

[@tomrawley6549]

why are there so many deluded people out there

[@davidmilne6499]

Where are all the politicians like Ken Clarke? I'm a remainer and anti-tory (sorry Ken) but great respect for his stance as a realist and compromiser. If we have to have Brexit let the people decide between hard and soft. The truth is that 51.8% did not vote for crashing out and the 48.2% seem to be ignored.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

When you tend to leave an organisation, you leave it in it's entirety. Would Remainers have compromised had they won by 52%?

[@PeterWoodstorrechianca]

we need more like Ken Clarke, big fat wobbly belly, hush puppies and as corrupt as can be, plus love of boys

[@randomdaveUK]

@@jameswhiteley6843 if by compromise you mean getting the EU to adjust the way it works otherwise we'd invoke article 50 on a set date in the future then why not? Seems pretty sensible.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@randomdaveUK I don't expect them to adjust for us. That's why I want us to leave without a deal.

[@mindfuldrone]

@@jameswhiteley6843 Apparently not. Rees-Mogg "left" for Dublin with his asset management. All the while laughing at cap-doffing proles like your gammony self.

[@iandouglas6925]

much better interviewer than Krishnan Guru-Murthy imo in allowing interviewee to answer

[@cengiztaner4754]

Krish is an interruption machine, Jon Snow is only slightly better than him, but Gary is the best

[@willlawrence8756]

Agree!!@@cengiztaner4754

[@Big5Holiday]

@Diana Mitford don't do that

[@johnanthonyfingleton2954]

A good interview, the UK needs a few more like him. And I believe the UK should stay.

[@downwiththatsortofthing624]

@Diana Mitford Well, clearly no one can call you a racist...

[@zhihenglou]

Ken Clarke is a true gentleman!

[@jameswarbrick9168]

he is in the tent pissing out with the rest of the ancients who need to punish the so-called ignorant, well we are not as ignorant as our grandfathers. walk out Clark with no strings.

[@pump066]

A real Statesman speaking!

[@mrkellysch]

A traitor talking

[@tomrawley6549]

a dinosaur

[@downwiththatsortofthing624]

Where?

[@PGO_Gaming]

The majority of Parliament voted to hand over responsibility of the potential of leaving the European Union, to the people, in a form of a Referendum. The majority of Parliament voted to Remain in the European Union. Nevertheless, the majority of Parliament voted to trigger Article 50, to leave the European Union with or without a deal. The majority of Parliament have voted down the option of a no-deal, meaning they have gone back on their word. The majority of Parliament need to be removed in the next general election.

[@halfabee]

When I stand for election as an MP. My manta will be "remember the BrExit betrayal by the Tories and Labour Parties"

[@ericlagre55]

Ken, I am left wing, yet I love you. So wise.

[@randomdaveUK]

His option had more support than May's deal. Combined with the confirmatory vote that could be an alternative to May's option.

[@derekwhyle1884]

Only because the votes were still subject to government whips. I believe if the result was made apolitical like the referendum vote was, the way forward would be soon sorted.

[@tomrawley6549]

all remain options though arent they ?

[@enoeht5519]

@@tomrawley6549 Yeah.. Pretty much...... One of the most seasoned politicians is trying really hard to tell the country that remain is the best option without upsetting the crocodile who wants to exit.

[@SeanT181167]

THE only Tory I have ever had any time for. Huge respect.

[@paulhcan]

Is that "Jazz Me Blues", the autobiography of Chris Barber on Ken Clarke's desk?

[@eughrologh]

I like to see Ken still keeps his cassettes close to hand in the office.

[@vseme1572]

Could listen to Ken all day! Such a voice of reason and wisdom- regardless of whether one agrees with his Europhile viewpoints.

[@propjoe1060]

If the government had listened to what Clarke has been saying for the past few months then they'd likely be in a much better position than they are right now. Never been a fan of Kenneth Clarke over the years, but he's got more experience in government than most of the current idiots put together. A statesman.

[@gjingodjango]

Propjoe10 Agreed. He knows without solidarity the the Tories are over. They are pushing it to destruction.

[@bryanmacinnes]

a wonderful politician

[@tomrawley6549]

please, get real, or get educated

[@MisterstereoOso]

Good ol' father of the House, talking sense about blue collar workers being left behind,

[@raceace]

Don't think there is a single politician(Especially the conservatives)in the UK that can claim to be any better than student politics, after lighting this fire and then sit back and calmly describe the gentle glow.

[@jameswarbrick9168]

Blier killed socialism Thatcher was a fascist,so we have now much of a muchness.a shower of weak-kneed bastards who should be sweeping the streets not governing the country

[@grantdennison69]

Get rid of pro Brexit mps and forget the 17.4 million people. What an upstanding gentleman.

[@petermckerrow7694]

A brilliant man who transcends party politics and with half a century's insight and experience. And he has a sense of humanity and humour. What a contrast with the narrow-minded mediocrities of May and Corbyn.

[@Anna-tj7mp]

I agree. He is brilliant, pragmatic, humane. And can be very funny.

[@Anna-tj7mp]

Haha feeding the crocodiles with buns. What a Clarky expression!

[@Anna-tj7mp]

@Barru Apres Drunk, sober, or just the worse for wear he is brilliant. And humane. The best kind of Englishman.

[@pasta248]

One of the tory MPs I have the most respect for. Not something I can say about a lot of politicians

[@toonlegend4044]

You respect self serving politicians that only think of their own interests? Nice judgement.

[@pasta248]

@@toonlegend4044 yes, thank you for your input. Now please tell me why you believe that to be the case

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

How would a Union Jack representing England, Wales and the Falklands look? It’s all there will be left after the dust settles

[@jameswhiteley6843]

Wales voted to Leave. Northern Ireland voted to Remain but that doesn't mean they want to leave the Union. As for Scotland, I hope they do leave.

[@emm_arr]

​@@jameswhiteley6843 People voted. Scotland is not a "they".

[@ynyrglyn5037]

@@jameswhiteley6843 Welsh indy movement is rising. Kinda shows how bad is going when us welsh turn on the UK.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@ynyrglyn5037 in the North perhaps. Nobody likes Northern Welsh, including the rest of Wales.

[@ynyrglyn5037]

JAMES WHITELEY considering that it’s in the south where the increase of support is found, due to welsh labour fails I’ll have to disagree. And what’s wrong with the north of wales?

[@cliffmatthews6106]

Ken Clark is a good man, but he’s wrong on brexit, he should respect the vote of the British people !

[@ibenzawla]

He does actually. He just wants an orderly separation between Britain and its neighbors. Its very reckless to say Britain voted leave and so bye bye. Its more complicated than that. For one Britain has a lot to lose if things go bad.

[@Rayblondie]

I heartily agree with you Cliff.

[@chawenhalo0089]

I hope this is the break room and that the PM or Govt. has not dared hide the excellent "whats the frequency Kenneth" in the broom cupboard!?

[@Martyn2160]

MPs can’t run away from the electorate. We will vote them out if they don’t deliver the will of the people’. Leave means leave the EU in its entirety. As the leave vote won there should be no compromise. Why do the people who won the referendum need to compromise with the remainders? We had the debate and leave won. If remain had won would they be compromising with the leavers? They’d have said you lost move on. Parliament is acting as a dictatorship by not delivering the will of the people.

[@giovannidepetris6335]

How can you be in the common market without giving up your bloviated sovereignty anti immigration anti free movement of people and no tariffs nonsense you all pompously harassed the world with?

[@fritz4345]

Giovanni, logic was never part of the Brexit process.

[@sanjosesacroise8457]

I’ve seen WTO and it’s scary in principle and takes 5-10 years to get right. It does create great economic harm. So it comes down to pricing... real pricing on products. Are brits going to pay the price for goods at the till our their own pocket, or will British government pay for those through EU concessions and no tariffs. That was this mess comes down to. Pay at the point of buying a product, or let our National Government pay through membership. Think about it.... when you pay a price on goods than you pay tax which is collected.

[@merseybeat1963]

@@sanjosesacroise8457 Staying in the EU with it's policy's and expected economic recession is going to be similar " great economic harm" as well. The Articals they just passed bringing down the curtain on the internet is going to do great mdia and job damage to the home of the English Speaking People's.. The EU is on a path of increased central control.But the countries within in are not treated with support the way a country supports a state within it. Tyranny is what it is headed for..

[@merseybeat1963]

This guy is a long time EU man.He sounds British and looks British but is an EU man.

[@eric-vu1jy]

WE DONT WANT ANY OF IT.. COMMON MARKET, FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT.. TRADING WITH NAZILAND... NO..!

[@runedyrting8476]

an old scool decent Guy. Even if he is a conservative.

[@jamesgriffithsmusic]

Strategic compromise - he makes it sound so easy. The secret is also being pragmatic and reasonable.

[@hurri7720]

Getting old doesn't make you stupid unless you was stupid from the beginning. Ken for PM.

[@luismanuel2612]

What a gentleman... :-)

[@william-uk]

“If you just stand feeding the crocodile with buns, the worrying moment comes when you run out of buns.” (~22:30) I can’t help wondering how you are supposed to feed a bun to a crocodile - surely far too risky to hand the bun to it like you would an elephant? You’d have to wait for it to opens its jaws then lob the buns in underarm? Maybe attach the bun to the end of a long pole? Or empty a pile of buns nearby then get to a safe distance?

[@downwiththatsortofthing624]

Let's not forget that whilst Ken might be right on the EU, he has a responsibility for leading the country down the road of Brexit, which he refuses to acknowledge... As chancellor in the Major government, he slashed public services, cut benefits for the poorest and cut income tax for the richest and to pay for those tax cuts introduced fees for NHS eye-tests, and put VAT on gas/electricity. He also cut basic rate income tax to 23%, perpetuating the myth that tax cuts trickle down to the poorest... They don't! In this interview Ken says (and is not challenged by the interviewer), under Thatcher & unlike now, the Tories didn't have a populist agenda. Really? Is he that old he forgets what he voted for in the Thatcher government, all policies which at one time or another he advocated and voted for; Council House sales? Not populist? Really?, Then what about; "If you see Fred tell him" gas privatisation, mass privatisations of utilities. The break up of the old British Rail to prepare for privatisation, the poll tax, Compulsive Competitive Tendering (CCT) of council services where councils' were not allowed to bid to run their own services... Slashing benefits, and massive tax cuts for the richest, the 'reform' of education to cut the pay and conditions of 'fat cat' council staff like teachers and social workers, and not increasing pay for nurses because they do their job for the feel good factor, not pay - all populist! Ken's voting record record in the Commons is such that he votes against increases in benefits - allways and (so far) forever, even in line with inflation, and votes for increasingly draconian benefits sanctions including the bedroom tax. Now the dispossessed and poorest blame the EU, for the mess he helped to create! Ken Clarke; right on the EU, wrong on everything else!

[@staffankarinpappila3975]

It was the timing. If Brexit happened in let’s say 1993, one year after Maastricht, I’d have no problem with it. Now is why EU exist. Now is when totalitarianism is growing. EU (including UK) secured democracy in three former fascist states and in eleven former communist ones. That is nothing but glorious actions. Now is the time to stay in the union. That is why I never again will look at the UK with the same trust and respect as before. Same with the US, btw… I think Ken Clarke agrees with the above.

[@eric-vu1jy]

CALM DOWN ROSY CHEEKS..!

[@QuietOutbursts]

Am I the only one worried by The Jazz Section Vol. 2 cassette tape on his desk?

[@bunkerbill]

Yes.

[@QuietOutbursts]

@@bunkerbill is that cause you're also 80ish =P

[@wingedpearloyster]

I find this notion that Theresa May must be blamed for the failure to reach an agreement to be so pathethic. The failure to agree on something was a collective failure to find a solution. May put forward her best option. The other options were less successful, and now the parliament must choose the least unpalatable option or come up with something else. But simply blaming May is just a reflection of people's inability to take collective responsibility.

[@KryzMasta]

wingedpearloyster I see your point, and a very peculiar set of circumstances brought her (and the UK) here, but you have to consider the following points: 1) She voted remain, but wanted to be the Brexit PM. That’s not an easy task to start with, be careful what you wish for. 2) She was overly confident in her public support and wanted to expand her majority and called an election (when she’d previously said she wouldn’t), and lost her majority, subsequently having to form a coalition with the DUP. 3) She and her government were and are the only entity which has the authority to negotiate the terms of the withdrawal (and after that of the post-Brexit relationship with the EU), but she needed parliament to approve of that deal. Knowing this, how come she negotiated only within her party, took her red lines from the ERG, while simultaneously losing the backing of both the ERG and the DUP due to the Irish border backstop? 4) Next, she simply tried to run out the clock in order to make sure there wouldn’t be time to negotiate anything else once she’d put this deal to parliament, and MP’s simply wouldn’t let themselves be painted into a corner like that. So they voted her deal down. Thrice now. 5) Lastly, she squandered all her political negotiating power by ruling out no deal and offering up her position in order to get backing for her deal. Now she has nothing left to bargain with. If she’d run the indicative vote process herself a year and a half ago - setting the agenda, showing she was willing to reach across the isle, figuring out what would be able to carry a majority - she’d be looking cooperative and a strong leader now. I guarantee you parliament would’ve shown exactly the same result as last Wednesday - 8 motions and not a single majority - and the country would say: well, screw those MP’s, please mrs. May, take control, and lead the way, they apparently don’t have a clue. It’s her lost opportunity at every turn, so yes, she’s responsible. And if it’s not because of that, it’s simply because she’s the PM, who is the executive responsible for running the show, and that responsibility comes with a price when you fail at your task. No matter how complicated or contentious.

[@blindfreddy9157]

She should have organised a cross party process 2 years ago. It's her responsibility.

[@wingedpearloyster]

She has made mistakes to be sure. But her mistakes didn't create the fundamental problem, which neither May nor anyone else can solve in a way that everybody is happy with; and that is: how does Britain extricate itself from the EU without suffering all the costly consequences and difficulties that entails? That's what everybody wants to avoid - paying the price.

[@KryzMasta]

wingedpearloyster Well, she didn’t put the UK in this position in the first place, that’s true. There’s 40 years of Eurolies, Torie rhetoric and media bias, culminating in a stupid party-based strategy from Cameron gone wrong. But your argument is that she can’t be blamed for the process that is now leading to no agreement. And I disagree with you: had she reached across the isle instead of making this a partisan endeavour, she could’ve reached an agreement (a compromise for sure, but an agreement nonetheless) months and months ago.

[@MrJonRio]

The best interviewer in the whole media.

[@hopethisworks1212]

A lot of the suggestions are not mutually exclusive. In fact a peoples vote can go with all or any one of them.

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

Ken Clarke is a realistic politician who soberly judges things according to the situation and the feasibility. An honorable person and I respect him, albeit he´s a conservative.

[@johnnyfeve5950]

There will be no law that stops you all been sentenced for fraud ...

[@chrish12345]

isn't it fascinating how interesting somebody can be when they are drunk? By the way, what about Ben Fellowes Mr Clarke?

[@hloc]

Instead of "Independence Day" on the 29th of March.... it with now be known as... Indecisive Day....

[@rapier1954]

Waste of time voting for amendments when the EU says it is done negotiating and the Agreement struck is something the UK can take or leave. It looks like a No Deal Brexit. No offense to Ken Clarke but to this point all his predictions have not come true in regards Brexit.

[@boudivv]

When is the vote for renaming the kingdom, the Divided Kingdom?

[@stephenduncan4548]

It will be renamed Eurozone 5 and no one will get to vote on it

[@alicaljungberg3742]

@@stephenduncan4548 Only full members with voting rights get to be Eurozones. After your little brexit stunt you guys will have to settle for "Reichskommissariat Britannia"

[@stephenduncan4548]

@@alicaljungberg3742 If brexit ever materialises in some form it won't last long with current traitors in parliament and with our pathetic voting system it's very difficult to get rid of them.It should awaken more citizens though to the fact that democracy is an illusion and the govern ment don't work for them. I don't believe your 4th Reich will get very far though :)

[@nickitharrison]

Ken Clarke seems to have amnesia or wishes to totally ignore the fact that we had a referendum. Typical of our politicians who forget that they are there to represent the people, but of course we're so stupid and they know best. Such arrogance from someone who should know better.

[@whoisme678]

Wasn't Jabba the Hutt, based on Ken ?

[@topcatprostituto]

The question that really matters in this whole process is this:"What is the price of british democracy?". People who try to tell you otherwise are being naive, disingenuous, or both.

[@johnhughes2681]

Notice how well he understands the details and does not just speak in broad, self-interested, often pretty meaningless, generalities.

[@tomrawley6549]

he is yesterdays man

[@god1971b]

@@tomrawley6549 With an upto date and complete understanding of the issues, far more than any Brexiter, beyond the usual @No foreigner' rant!

[@tomrawley6549]

@@god1971b foreigner rant ? don't think I said anything like that my friend, I want out of the EU BECAUSE OF ITS CORRUPT ANTI DEMOCRATIC FEDERAL STANCE

[@god1971b]

@@tomrawley6549 Thats the Russian Federation. EU has an elected parliament, the council of ministers, i.e the leaders of all 28 (UK Still a member) has final authority are elected by their nations. The Executive, put options to the ministers, those options are then decided on then the commission argues for the option chosen by the ministers. The parliament discusses and decides on laws and regulations for day to day operation of europe. The ministers and parliament are all elected. Power resides in their hands, the commission is the visible element but they do not choose. The EU is a democratic organisation. Which is no bringing in TAX AVOIDANCE LAWS, which will curtail company and pivate wealth from being hidden offshore. If you dont like their choices, then blame the individual states who elect the people who decide which way europe goes. Europe has allowed UK since the 70's to grow and prosper, our products, produce and most important services are freely supplied through 28 and by arrangement a further 100 countries. BREXIT is a nationalistic idea, that when you look at it from a logical and realistic view will cause immense financial damage, even the BREXIT parliament has admitted it will take 30 to 40 years for the UK to get back to the position we are in now. Which means 30-40 years of increased poverty & unemployment. Which when taken into account with current debt levels, will put at risk current Social security & NHS & Defence spending. BREXIT is UK putting a gun to its own head, shouting at EU to give us what we want or we shoot ourselves. When the UK needs 30% of its food from EU.

[@tomrawley6549]

@@god1971b yep, sounds great dosen't it when you put it like that, however when the veto is taken away which it will be because that is VDL's stated aim it will nothing more than a talking shop, sorry

[@driver13g27]

Ken Clarke for PM

[@jameswhiteley6843]

Ken Clarke for the grave.

[@emm_arr]

@@jameswhiteley6843 James Whiteley for anti-racism education.

[@brnoamik]

So he ignores the referendum "will of the people", he admittedly votes for what HE wants. What a saint.

[@jaccrystal6993]

So if proportional representation should enable MPs to 'mandate the government' then that will be an excellent precedent for PR mandating voters to elect parties to Parliament otherwise excluded by the now constitutionally bankrupt and democratically(sic) idiosyncratic 'First Past The Post' electoral fix..

[@markmccormack1796]

Maybe Charles I was correct, there really is no need for Parliament.

[@mikaham681]

Ken Clark presents a sensible persona, but he ignores the simple fact that the majority of voters, voted to LEAVE. The fact that parliamentarians don't want to leave is the problem. People like Ken Clark are intentionally thwarting democracy, because of their own personal opionion. Ken Clark is meant to be a servant of the people, he is ignoring the specific directive of the UK voters.

[@boringguylikeme1254]

Ken Clarke is probably one of the few remaining Thatcherites in the Conservatives, certainly the only well-spoken and broad-thinking one. Looking at his political career, he represents the classic market liberalist views while holding strong traditional values more akin to what it used to be back in the olden days. Even though I disagree with the majority of his policies, at least I can understand where he's coming from and he's informed in geopolitics and history. Having him as an opponent in a democracy is certainly more positive than the likes of Boris Johnson or the rest of the ERG, who seem to be teenagers with shortsighted, spiteful opinions.

[@arthurpendragon1560]

It's Kevin ..

[@hvehvd8075]

His dumps must be huge!!

[@kynchan3332]

Good or bad. Brexit collectively means more jobs for British workers, less wage depression, tightly controlled immigration and a return of sovereignty. If the remainers wanted brexit to not happen they would have had to do the following years ago: 1/Get out of recession fast 2/Get control of immigration What did the remainers do: 1/Nothing about the economy 2/Double/power pump immigration (open the borders) Can only push so far before there is a backlash.

[@fritz4345]

Kyn Chan, Brexit means less work for British works, more wage depression because of less worker rights.

[@kynchan3332]

@@fritz4345 Net immigration says differently. Why would immigrants come if there was no work? For the weather, fish and chips?

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@fritz4345 less workers rights? What you mean like the minimum wage in Bulgaria, Poland, Romania? The fact that French, Germans and Scandinavian countries have different weekly hours to us? Did workers rights not exist prior to the EU?

[@fritz4345]

@@jameswhiteley6843 They did exist before the EU or EEC. But after Brexit the UK or what will be left of it after Northern Ireland and Scotland leave, can be more compared with Somalia. The UK will be the only country on earth trading on WTO terms alone. (That's what the president of the WTO said, look it up) So yeah, good luck.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@fritz4345 why will Northern Ireland leave? There's no evidence to suggest that? Gibraltar overwhelmingly voted to Remain and still want to remain an overseas territory. As for Scotland I sincerely hope they do leave. Yes I'm aware of that. And?

[@jameswhiteley6843]

"I look forward to the day when the Westminster Parliament is just a council chamber in Europe". - Ken Clarke.

[@mindfuldrone]

Well, we've seen what happens when the nationalists get their say. Bring on Europe. It cant be worse than that lot.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@mindfuldrone yes the people are actually represented. Centralisation such as that of the Soviet Union did not work and it crumbled, just like the EU will.

[@kikebautista2110]

@@jameswhiteley6843 Always confusing desires with reality, not a good thing to do. Gives you a lot of fake expectations and then fustration and anger. The EU isnt going any where. And after seeing brexshit, no other country will want to leave. The only one thing for the EU that UK has done in recent years.

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@kikebautista2110 yet eurosceptic parties are rising throughout Europe? Hmmmm. When Macron said the French would vote to leave if given the opportunity. When Yellow Vests protesters are burning the EU flag and demanding Frexit. Enjoy your blissful ignorance. Reality will only come crashing harder on you.

[@ian_b]

@@mindfuldrone Nationalists have got their say but not their way. The current mess is entirely due to the refusal of Establishment Remainers to honour the Referendum result. They say it is "undeliverable", in the passive voice. What is actually the case is a refusal to deliver.

[@Sam-lw6mx]

Great politician

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

Can you explain why he is called the Father of the House, please?

[@kezsfx]

Longest serving in the house

[@saddoncarrs6963]

The Father of the House is a title that is bestowed on the senior member of the House of Commons who has the longest continuous service. Also, for me, he's a gent. He's the only tory (along with Rory Stewart) I'd ever consider voting for.

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

Thank you, @@saddoncarrs6963! I met him once, as a schoolboy, when I was in Victoria station, and he autographed my homework diary. Seemed like a pretty decent chap even back then!

[@HealthyMindProject]

@@saddoncarrs6963 Same. I've never been a Tory voter, but I would consider voting for him.

[@tonyblack3957]

Kenn Clarke MP (Monster Pervert) ask Ben Fellows

[@semasmelash6131]

I’m a black British and I feel sick of been betrayed & I will vote UKIP 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@deanbeck6223]

The day democracy died.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Dean Beck Never let little britain vote on things they cannot grasp

[@jameswhiteley6843]

@@jacobjorgenson9285 for a Dane. You seem awfully interested in our country?

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

JAMES WHITELEY I’ve lived in London since 2002. Made my money here, semi retired now

[@kaba_me]

On the contrary... Democracy did not end in 2016.

[@foppo100]

He would have been a decent leader of a nasty party.It wasn't to be and this Brexit saga goes on and on.Nothing to wonderful about Ken he is a member of a party which had policies over the last ten years causing misery to many people in the U.K.

[@eric-vu1jy]

WHERE NEXT FOR KEN CLARKE..??.. DOWN THE LOCAL PUB, BCOS U AINT STANDING AS A POLITICIAN ANYMORE..!!

[@additionaddict5524]

he's got food on his shirt

[@mp4373]

A normal human being!

[@additionaddict5524]

@@mp4373 he's actually a lizard planning on terraforming earth for his scaly kin.

[@pinchermartyn3959]

C4 News chatting happily away about undermining democracy and the referendum vote. Sickening.

[@summerbrightbright1635]

For God's seke no brexit

[@merseybeat1963]

Any one that thinks this guy is talking common sense has no common sense at all.His proposals support the UK staying within the EU in everything but in name.His proposals do not deliver freedom from the EU at all. Look at the interviews of this guy when he was young..he is an EU man through and through.

[@czolgistta]

So that means he is intelligent. You know what that makes you... :)

[@leapsplashafrog]

Les fenêtres de la maison abandonnée sont couvertes de saleté

[@alantracy6757]

Dacour

[@bh7945]

He should leave n live in Italy or wherever

[@worldofameiso5491]

The Father of the House has spoken, and as with all Fathers, you may not always agree with what they say, but you should always listen to the message...

[@truthseeka2503]

people have voted for No Deal Brexit

[@emm_arr]

Nobody has done that.

[@erichodge567]

This is not true. The people were told by Brexiteers that getting a great deal would be easy. The Brexiteers did not beat the drum for the no deal option in the run-up to the referendum.

[@leapsplashafrog]

Des croix rouges sur des portes en bois How we cure psychopaths and rampant narcissists like him ?

[@leapsplashafrog]

Des croix rouges sur des portes en bois

[@alantracy6757]

I’ve read it’s almost impossible to cure a psycho narcissist tis easier to change a murderer apparently more defended

[@hankthetank3065]

VOTE UKIP - GERARD BATTERN!

[@emm_arr]

UKIRP?

[@ngp1868]

Mays treaty was hopeless no deal is much better

[@alantracy6757]

No deal is the only Brexit out of single market and customs union it’s essential to follow the vote maintain U.K. sovereignty, pay off national debt to leave no deal

[@TheSteelweasel]

i have one question for all remainers , if UK was at war with the EU who's army would you sign up for ??????

[@matthewyabsley]

It doesn’t matter what side we choose, either way we’re sending the Brexit tards over the top first. Stupid cannon fodder, gives us chance to purge the lot of them from society.

[@willbrown5860]

the Salvation Army .

[@davidrobertsemail]

His hatred of democracy is on full show.

[@THE16THPHANTOM]

hatred of democracy? all i got from him was: stop with the opinion polls, do your job, you were elected to make decisions on behalf of the people who elected you. you were not elected to constantly ask the people to do your job. if they dont like what you have done they vote you out.

[@garyreynolds5733]

Hilarious: why can't you just get behind saving the country form the self-serving zealots.

[@propjoe1060]

Your lack of understanding of democracy is on full show.

[@davidrobertsemail]

THE16THPHANTOM the referendum was one instance when those that govern us asked us directly what we wanted. They said no matter what they would honour the result. Instead politicians like Clarke think they know better and the referendum need not be honoured.

[@davidrobertsemail]

Propjoe10 17.4 million people voted to leave. Greater than any other electoral mandate. They said they would do as we directed them. It’s been nearly three years and they haven’t. I understand what democracy is and this isn’t it.

[@jimwilliams1536]

Having listened to a living dinosaur pontificate on political evolution, isn't it obvious none of them really see the truth? The Father of the House clearly doesn't realise we could replace him and the entire system with an app. We'd all have no need for a representative. We'd all have say directly.

[@iontichy68]

Jim Williams Great idea. Give the tough decisions to Joe the sales manager who has no time to study the ever more complicated issues of our time. Let’s all vote drunk in a pub with our phones.

[@marioclara8357]

Ken was against a referendum,was against art.50, always in the right side of history.

[@spike7269]

I thought he had died a long time ago

[@duncanbull959]

Ken Clarke has always been in love with the EU . He wants to keep us in as a slave state to the EU .

[@aqynbc]

Mrs. May...be careful, this man has a history of stabbing women in the back....

[@ElshadKarbasi]

This guy sold out. He betrayed Remain by voting for the miserable Brexshit deal. Disgrace!

[@kaba_me]

Err... Actually he is playing the game. There is no deal. Just a never ending "transition period".

[@grahambeadle9067]

Biggest Traitor there is..........

[@paulmorgan6269]

Father of the house ….. No Father of the remainers ! Stay inside the bubble Ken. We voted out.

[@krisowy79]

every single 'no deal'Brexitt mp should resign in shame immediately

[@genericusername3212]

Brazen eu shill. Edit - Clarke even states the “deal” is asking too much 🤣. Enough said. SMH this is embarrassing to think C4 give this man a platform to advocate dismissing the referendum vote without a peep.

[@jondough679]

RUSHCLIFFE GET THIS MAN OUT HIS TIME IS UP HE DONT CARE FOR YOU OR DEMOCRACY

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Jon Dough Neither does Mogg...WESTMINSTER does not care about Little britain

[@leapsplashafrog]

Leave tv everyone for your own sake these deluded fools seem to think they’re important Bin your Bbc licence

[@venetiangenoesewarmachine5152]

Don’t they realise Tory’s and bbx both finished if no deal doesn’t happen

[@venetiangenoesewarmachine5152]

Where’s you ceegar snake oil Clarke

[@ngp1868]

Worse than Blair so good he never got anywhere near power

[@venetiangenoesewarmachine5152]

Cigarette seller to kids