Brian Cox Rules Out The Soul and Posits The Meaning Of Life!

[@wilsonbeckett9487]

He himself is a rare collection of particles in the world of humans that we know - love his mind and his ability to explain the complexity of life so simply.

[@faisaladnan1520]

He is a very happy 50 years old boy

[@ClarenceHW]

Thank you Brian, indeed...what a joy to live and love.

[@MrJamiez]

The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody is rushing around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves. - Alan Watts.

[@origins7298]

That's not going to feed us. That's not going to keep the house clean and the kids fed and all the rest of the stuff that needs to get done.

[@mercury3352]

@@origins7298all of that can be traced back to just wanting to be alive in some way

[@devmiles]

What a mindblowing and touching explanation… we exist in this brief window in temporary complex formed structures to observe the universe…

[@ben6298]

Words reduce reality to something the human mind can grasp, which isn’t very much. Language consists of five basic sounds produced by the vocal cords. They are the vowels a, e, i, o, u. The other sounds are consonants produced by air pressure: s, f, g, and so forth. Do you believe some combination of such basic sounds could ever explain who you are, or the ultimate purpose of the universe, or even what a tree or stone is in its depth? - Eckhart Tolle

[@LotharioBob]

Yea, I mean isn't that what you just did?

[@ben6298]

LotharioBob Yeah, that’s right. However language wether verbal or not is really all that can be used to convey anything. Again this isn’t ‘my’ teaching but rather an extract for something someone else is saying. My understanding of that is that our intellect is too limited to fully define or comprehend the wholeness or the entirety of all things. So don’t pretend that we do. Ie don’t weigh too heavy on intellect I believe is the core message here.

[@branwithoutclaws]

But how else will we monetize consciousness? 🤑

[@jerryakamuadams6399]

vocal language is simply a disturbance of air molecules - vibrating air molecules, nothing more.

[@nicholocadongonan1074]

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[@CurtisGabrielMusic]

Brian Cox seems such a happy, content and well adjusted man for someone that believes he is going to cease existing permanently pretty soon. It is a terrifying thought.

[@UDubFootballFan]

How is it any different than before you were born?

[@barikulkol]

@@UDubFootballFan Excellent answer. Totally agree.

[@petemitchell9996]

​@@UDubFootballFan I strongly believe that when you die you will start a life as another person in another universe or maybe the same one but millions of years later, or a different planet. If our consciousness is made of neuron networks, with infinite number of combinations (each person has an unique consciousness, unique neuron networks), and if space is infinite or if there's an infinite number of universes, there must be one where the exact same combination of neurons exist. You will just be reborn as yourself or as someone else with the exact same consciousness.

[@CurtisGabrielMusic]

@@petemitchell9996 I have these thoughts too. Makes a lot of sense.

[@mvwmark8955]

@@UDubFootballFan because there was never a consciousness of impending unconsciousness. In reality, you are correct, essentially there is no difference…….. but there is the added fear of knowing its going to happen. It is the only REAL terrifying unanswered (to perfection) question.

[@naturalisted1714]

Death and "Before Birth" are equal; and so, just as "Before Birth" was followed by a life, so too will Death - because we know sentient organisms will be born after this life ends. You will not exist to experience "darkness".

[@IdiotDoomSpiral69]

Other things being born after you die says absolutely nothing about you ever having some afterlife.

[@farhanahmed7645]

Surat No. 7 Ayat NO. 172 And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes, we have testified." [This] - lest you should say on the day of Resurrection, "Indeed, we were of this unaware."

[@faisaladnan1520]

@@IdiotDoomSpiral69exactly if something else exists it’s not you you’re already expired with your element

[@johnpetrie266]

this makes me feel exhilarated and depressed at the same time, all whilst my brain explodes trying to comprehend that I'm collection of old star particles ordered in such a unique way that Im feeling those things. I need a beer.

[@bella3008]

" If you can't measure it, its not there" - Brian Cox

[@tonyynot6578]

"Second low of thermo dynamics, things go to shit." 🤣🤣🤣🤣❤🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣 best, simplest explanation of the 2ed. Exquisite! Love it

[@ohasis8331]

Following that line of reasoning, it pains me that so many people do not get the opportunity to follow this. Instead, they get caught up in the whims of others who decide they must die for some useless and irrational cause.

[@samc6194]

capitalism

[@OwenNovakChildofGod]

“Irrational”

[@motalyzer4872]

tell me how i knew where i got begotten. Without knowing anything about it. Just by meditating i got a view of a location where i was begotten. Then i told my mother where they begotten me. And it was so correct within a few meters from where my parents lived. That it shocked my mother how i knew that. The power of the mind is so phenomenonal. Humanity needs to start meditating on a daily basis.

[@timc2282]

I love physics, and love the sciences, but am always perplexed and humored when science thinks it created our existence and forgets the science is merely a tool of observation and therefore is limited only to what it can observe. BUT, just because we can't observe it doesn't mean it doesn't exist - think about it...500 hundred years ago science could not observe a ton of things it now observes, but it doesn't mean those things didn't exist, it just means we couldn't see them - YET. Therefore, we can talk about what we know, BUT we must always acknowledge there will be more and more data that will eventually surface the better we get at observing. To rule things out merely because we can't measure them is only evidence we haven't created the tool of observation yet :) Love your show Joe!

[@Explorer766]

Tim C The time to believe something is when we have good evidence and/or good logic with which to place our bet on it. Without that requirement there is no meaningful distinction between speculation and fact. Cox prefaced this whole discussion stating it was his opinion.

[@jethrolowe]

Tim C you are correct BUT.... religion pretends to know the answer from life to the creation of the universe. I’d have to lean towards the side that says they don’t know the answer to everything over the side that says it does.

[@scaredyfish]

Cox's point, though, is that even if there is a thing that exists that we can't yet measure or detect, our bodies are made of things that we *can* measure and detect and understand very well. The new thing would have to interact in some way with the stuff we already know about, and we would see that interaction, even if we can't see the new thing directly.

[@hurmur9528]

But he tries to give a scientific answer. The soul is a strange concept. Descartes philosophy do not match the science in this area. Just read Damasio a neuroscientist. This is much more questionable than the question of a creator (if you leave all the religion and just focus on a creator or a god).

[@marcuso5409]

I agree, you cannot rule out the soul using “science.” This is a stupid idea to rule out the soul, that’s like saying get rid of god lol and what a dumbass scientist to say such a thing as get rid of god, they want to get rid of god so they can become god.

[@mathewworkman1625]

“Modern science is based on the principle: ‘Give us one free miracle and we’ll explain the rest.’ The one free miracle is the appearance of all the mass and energy in the universe and all the laws that govern it in a single instant from nothing.” - Terence McKenna

[@shrunkensimon]

Amen.

[@crusader5989]

At 9:10 Brian sais something briliiant that i have always thought regarding religious people and “meaning seekers” if you will and it is, “why do you want anymore”??? Is it not enough with this marvelous universe that we are living in?

[@archstanton2818]

They want to live forever in a green field like a sheep. How fkng boring. Its a myth and complete insanity people believe that nonsense

[@paul8972]

He goes from we don't know to that he rules it out

[@dwivedys]

Tell me Brian -> how “thoughts” *interact* with matter (us)? Can you “measure” ?

[@SS-kb8ns]

I like your question. Do you create your thoughts or you attract them?

[@dwivedys]

@@SS-kb8ns I seem to be a sitting duck. Thoughts come to me (I can feel them prancing around in my brain). I don’t necessarily wish them upon me. Sometimes though I do, to be fair. But most other times they seem to occur involuntarily and many times against my wishes

[@SS-kb8ns]

@@dwivedys Interestingly, energy can not be created or destroyed only changed into something else which is a scientific fact, so one of science cannot argue, everything that is percievable, is energy in one form or another. So then, thoughts are attracted like a magnet. So what attracts thought? Perhaps experience? Maybe, our senses, after all the subconscious mind interprets all sensory input. All our senses (smell, sight taste, etc.) Even our experience (sense of touch). However can the subconscious be measured? Emotions? Actually, here where it get interesting. Whatever you look at, in the Metaphysical, ends up growing. Whatever we focus on, thoughts appear in the center of our focus. These thoughts we then all see are interpretations of thought via the subconscious. So then, our thoughts cannot really be our own, becuase we don't create them and since we attract thoughts, we could see that we actually allow thoughts to be. "Being" is the seat used to watch and shape THOUGHT energy but it's all bouncing around something/nothing. So then, why are thoughts in front or behind us? It's almost like nothing is far, but also nothing is close. Do you see where I'm getting at? We are immeasurable, yet we can interact with thoughts by an immeasurable action "looking (observing)", the within kind of looking. Quite the paradoxical mystery. we can only solve for our selves by ourselves. Observing something, is nothing interacting with something. Do you see?

[@ivorfaulkner4768]

Cox’s interviewer doesn’t challenge him. B.C.is a philosophical materialist. A reductionist. I scent a molecule of agnosticism in his thoughts. Remember: some of the greatest scientists were/ are Christians.God Bless his mind ( and heart!)

[@georgekatsireas4324]

One more message now that i watched the whole video. 1)if we are clusters of atoms,if we observe for a very small amount of time the complexity of the universe and we are part of it and then we disappear then the right question is... 2) why consciousness exist? Shouldn't exist?can you measure consciousness?There is a strong relationship between consciousness and matter right?

[@VVyzard]

Oh yes because we have the capabilities to measure and observe other dimensions with aparatus and technology. He essentially is saying 'we don't know what conciousness is, so we don't have a soul'. If the particles were interacting with the soul we wouldn't be able to see it because 1: we do not understand the true nature of conciousness 2: if it was interacring with an unobservable dimension we would obviously not be able to observe it.

[@TheAmusementsArcade]

You hit the nail on the head there

[@augustmoon0004]

No! One, our synapses and neurons contain all of our thoughts and memories, and when they are damaged, they disrupt our thoughts and memories. Two, we don’t know how consciousness works (how thoughts originate), but we do know most of how the brain functions. There’s a distinct difference. The reality is, you need a physical brain to have thoughts, and when the physical brain is no longer, you don’t have thoughts. This is proven in life by observing traumatic brain injuries, brain tumors, dementia, etc… When parts of your physical brain get damaged you are no longer you. Sorry, without your physical synapses are neurons, you no longer exist.

[@TheAmusementsArcade]

@@augustmoon0004 you don't need thoughts to exists. Pure consciousness is devoid of all thoughts,and we don't die when we stop thinking. Quite the opposite, we enter a blissful state. Essentially, when we are without thoughts, we are our most authentic selves.

[@treyb3693]

The question is from metaphysics. It involves whether we could have chosen differently than we chose in the past or whether everything had to always turn out the way that it does. It's metaphysics because we cannot go back in time to determine via physics whether it was possible to have done something that was otherwise. The moral problem is that if freedom is totally illusory and there is no possible way of things being different, then morality is destroyed because one has to have some alternative to action in order to be morally blameworthy or morally praiseworthy. The issue is about purposive action that carries values into real life. The moral values are resistible forces whereas the laws of nature are irresistible forces. The moral values are ideal and involve us conceiving of perfection. It appears to be the case that we can indeed freely choose to be courageous, generous, just, patient, and punctual or not be like that because they are resistible for us to either do or not do. The insistence on this other stance called determinism really ignores these possibilities. Instead, the focus is on some other levels of magnification of atoms, molecules, and other aspects of the physical world that involve the laws of nature as irresistible forces rather than on the aspects of moral life that involve the resistible forces where we place demands on ourselves to be better human beings, following the moral values that we personally prioritize, and these moral demands we give ourselves are resistible ones, but none of us want to break our own moral standards because then it is harder for us as higher living beings to live with ourselves. Such hard deterministic scientists focus on other animals, like insects that are already well-equipped to adapt to their niches and act according to instincts. Humans are helpless at birth though, and we have moral demands that we place on ourselves. We are different with moral lives.

[@meganaxelia]

The minute he tried explaining the soul upon a materialist, atomic basis, it showed he just doesn’t get it at all. Next, can you ask Brian if the love for his wife and children is also actually JUST a mere case of atoms in flux, a random brain chemical reaction? Or is it not something more, something almost unexplainable, metaphysical even? After all, there’s no ‘love atoms’!!

[@BBCBOY919]

No it's just chemical and he would be correct in telling you so.

[@meganaxelia]

@@BBCBOY919 You can’t even explain what love is and yet you’re confident you can give a scientific answer for it?😆 No there is no scientific basis behind your claim. You’re asserting behind a belief. Perhaps I’m too quick to judge and you’re a groundbreaking neuro-scientist though: what is love and what is the ‘chemical composition’ that *causes* love for one’s mother, daughter, wife, a stranger and atomically why? Let me reiterate, what chemical *causes it* , not ‘what are the chemical releases from love’.

[@BBCBOY919]

@@meganaxelia It is called Oxytocin, cry harder

[@maydaymemer4660]

@@BBCBOY919please explain qualia to me

[@BBCBOY919]

Oxytocin@@meganaxelia

[@michaelmckinney7240]

The most illuminating thing Mr Cox said in this interview is at 50 seconds when he says "I don't know." Please tell me why an astrophysicist is regarded as qualified to answer ultimate questions when in reality he's no more qualified than any grandmother who's lived a long life and most likely less qualified.

[@shrunkensimon]

Mathematicians and physicists hold an exhalated status in our society. It's nauseating when they overstep their boundaries and start making proclamations on ultimate's, especially given the fact that if one makes a critical analysis of some of things they believe in e.g black holes, big bang, one finds that those postulations aren't as solid as we're led to believe.

[@checkitoutlove]

Electricity is energy. And it commands the body. Energy is never created nor destroyed. My energy that makes my body move has been here and always will be here just in another form

[@Ackso5]

but when you die that form isn't going to be as you in heaven. that form is going to be food for tiny animals or for fuel in a fire

[@filminginportland1654]

“Why do you want any more?” People want to believe - in a soul, in god, in an afterlife, because they want to exist after dying. Few people find comfort in the idea of fading to black when you die, in simply ceasing to exist. It’s not a nice thought for most people. People also want there to be a meaning to life - a meaning for all the suffering, a reason we exist and therefore a reason _to_ exist. Many cannot find meaning on their own, meaning that’s uniquely theirs and feel there must be a reason for it all beyond simple chance and evolution. The fact that we are born, we live and we die and that’s it - many don’t see how you don’t become a nihilist thinking that’s all there is. Many Christians think atheists and agnostics _must_ be nihilists, and possibly even evil, to not believe in god and not to have an expectation of being good. Though how I see it, if you need a god requiring you to love others or be good to them, then that’s a real problem as it’s not genuine at all. Only being good because you want a reward or are afraid of punishment. Being good for the sake of being good seems much more honorable to me, and has its own benefits that have nothing to do with a god. I’ve found plenty of meaning on my own, for my own life, and have found a lot of joy and comfort through overcoming immense adversity and sadness in life, in nearly dying many times over the years but surviving and, eventually, thriving. I find happiness because I’ve had such extreme opposites to balance it out. One can’t be happy without a lot of sadness and difficult challenges. Those who have been spoiled or given everything without having to work for it often fail to find meaning or joy in life because everything is too much the same. There’s no yin and yang. Conversely, many face enormous sadness, chaos, pain and difficulty but never get through it to the other side to find joy, happiness and peace. That’s an unfortunate aspect of nature and human existence. People want to have a reason that all that happens other than “that’s human existence”. It’s hard for many to square our existence as simply chance and evolution. I understand how we came to be and I respect the science, but I find it hard to square away consciousness and self awareness as simple electrical signals & chemical reactions in the brain, though I realize in all likelihood that’s all there is. I would love to discover, upon death, that self awareness and consciousness keeps going, but I won’t hold my breath as I realize there’s a very good chance now is all we have. So I must find comfort in knowing my carbon and matter will disintegrate and become part of something else down the road. Maybe our own self awareness will pop up in some living thing later on, who knows. Maybe all this will repeat once the sun dies, collapses into a black hole, and perhaps explodes again in a new Big Bang where perhaps the cycle repeats. Maybe we’ve done all this an infinite number of times in the past? I was born into a Mormon family and left religion altogether in my late teens, so I’ve seen both sides of this. It took a long time to find genuine meaning of my own in life, and to work through all my problems. Life is excruciatingly hard. But it’s worth it once you find that meaning and that peace, joy, and happiness. I was taught that you can only find _true_ happiness through faith in god and adherence to his commandments. I only found heartache in it and its hypocrisy, but did find genuine peace and happiness in life without belief in any sort of god or religion, in seeking meaning on my own and going with what’s logical, what makes sense, what can be proven. And not being stressed out by religion’s hypocrisy and nonsense. So when he asks ‘why do you want any more?’ - I get it. I completely get it. For those who aren’t scientifically-minded, especially, science alone isn’t going to give very satisfying answers. You have to find your own meaning.

[@marcuso5409]

Also science sometimes tries to get away with proclaiming outright bullshit as fact lol

[@marcuso5409]

A poor experience with religion is no excuse for an immature view of and relationship to spirituality. Like it or not, you are a spiritual being having a human experience. If you do not understand dimensions, the you cannot properly discuss or even think about things like afterlife, soul, and beginning of the universe lol

[@bluesboy54321]

@@marcuso5409 .. The most fantastically arrogant reply to a post I've ever seen. Especially the smug "lol" to finish. Really, I should applaud you. But I won't.

[@marcuso5409]

@@bluesboy54321 science is a religion

[@bluesboy54321]

@@marcuso5409 Of course it isn't. Science is knowledge supported by EVIDENCE! Religion is FAITH supported by no evidence, only belief in a suggestion written or spoken by someone else. At least give religion the respect of admitting it is a philosophy based on no evidence at all.

[@Paranoidpedantic]

I like multiverse theory, you know the one there's multiple universes side but side but not really, in this theory the afterlife is just a different life in another dimension, the scientist who explained it didn't sound stupid but I'm dumb 19 scared of mortality and don't know anything so I'd take what I said with a heap of salt

[@maydaymemer4660]

You and me are peas in a pod in that respect lol

[@nathanielwilding3779]

You'll find out either way

[@TheGoodGadfly]

Assuming that certainty is equivalent to measurement makes idols out of human-generated concepts. "How?" has effectively become our "why?" Quickest way to shut a positivist up is to ask "Why?" Still, I enjoy listening to Professor Cox.

[@mattevans060972]

Why should there be a why?

[@TheGoodGadfly]

@@mattevans060972 why ask why there should be a why?

[@powerandpresence5290]

I asked my butcher how to build my house. It fell down.

[@davelew86]

1 Corinthians 1:9 For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”.

[@petergedd9330]

The infinite cannot be fathomed with the mind, the only way is to experience it. Love is not some vague symptom of a weak mind, it is the very hub of the human being, without love, then everything is just cogs going round. Today we are walking away from our home, we have forgotten that it lives inside of us, instead we are looking out into space. When we are on our last breath what will we be wanting, a mathematical formulea or another breath? When a man is cast away on a small boat in the ocean with nothing to power him, what will be his quest? To find out about Mars or to be saved so he can live and feel once again his life. What we do not realize is, that life is not from when we are born to when we die, that is how much time we have with our life, Life is within that breath that we take so much for granted, but when it does not return, only then do we see how precious it really is.

[@HenryFarmery]

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy

[@Paranoidpedantic]

The idea of not existing haunts me every day I'm 19 and scared of the universe somebody please reassure me

[@marcuso5409]

Don’t let these priesthood fake scientists trick you, the world would not be what it is without you, you are important. Reality CANNOT exist without the observer. You and the world, go together

[@augmentedkeys5971]

LIFE IS SHORT; DEATH IS SURE.

[@yomama9538]

God created the human soul to be immortal.

[@FreakyLynx]

Science is just a way of how we perceive reality with a sense of rationality. As he states right at the beginning, he can’t explain consciousness yet says he can explain the soul? Methinks he has a limited imagination if he can’t acknowledge that there are some things science can’t explain.

[@spammer5530]

Just do the best you can with what you got, be of service, give your love, take care of the planet and your efforts will not be in vein and will be rewarded in time. Do not go gentle into that good night.

[@wand873]

I have always says this about static for example when you take your top off and youbget a electrical reaction

[@davebradley4498]

I agree 100% with Brian Cox.

[@origins7298]

What is the soul made of? How does it interact with matter? And how is our essence stored and transferred after death?

[@stonermagicinc.6343]

I'm more of a believer that after you die you become a beam of light or an energy that has an unlimited consciousness of the universe, space and time. We can observe the unlimited number of universes there is and a different universe is defined as different time.. every second owns its own universe.. every time a second passes, a new universe is created. We can enter new life forms whenever we choose but we don't have a choice of which life.. that's the only thing we cannot control.. what life you have been put into.. could be good, could be bad wherever you land.. ..then you have got the "tadpole race" with over 400 million contestants and only one can make it first 🥇

[@daronolenus3911]

We are clusters of atoms which were manufactured deep in the hearts of super massive stars when at the END of there lives they turn SUPERNOVA!!!!!!! The universe is contained with in all of us.

[@rebeccastar7022]

You can't measure a thought but it is there. How do you account for that? Things that you can't measure - can be there

[@stephenmystery8313]

You're correct, we can't measure a "thought", however, we are able to measure changes associated with changing thoughts, using EEG and fMRI tests. That's what you're missing. Your thoughts changing are corelated with physical changes within your body. And all of these processes are contained WITHIN THE BODY, and do not extend beyond the body. So despite the fact that the thoughts themselves haven't been measured, they do create physical changes that indicate they are there. We have detected NEUTRINOS, which have such an inconsequential impact on the universe around us that they may as well not exist. They are VERY insignificant as far as what we can measure. Now, compare this with the proposition of human beings having a soul. This soul would quite obviously have a massive impact on our bodies, as it's supposedly the force that allows us to be, well, "us". Even if we couldn't detect the soul itself, with how massive of an effect it is supposed to have on our decision making processes, which in turn cause us to do things of the physical nature, we would certainly be able to detect changes in our physical properties that would indicate something is at work there. You're missing the point entirely I'm afraid.

[@madingo02]

@@stephenmystery8313 she's not missing anything. She's looking for justification for her predetermined beliefs.

[@hjr228]

​@@stephenmystery8313 so prior to being able to explain these things, did they not exist? Not having the answers and in turn, dismissing the entire concept seems intellectually lazy.

[@hjr228]

​@@madingo02 the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. To be so condescending to someone while overlooking relatively basic reasoning is pretty ironic.

[@maydaymemer4660]

@@stephenmystery8313how do you measure qualia then?

[@bekaralien009]

We the living creatures are not lucky because we can feel this beautiful world.... We are the luckiest because we are one of the outcome of infinite number of possibile creations due to the random interaction of particles ....may be other luckiest creatures of different kind are enjoying their lives in another galaxy with new level of intelligence

[@NiKOliDANBURSKi]

If you look it up you'll find the word Soul comes from the word Psyche. Psyche in modern terms defines the totality of the human mind. Both physical and emotional. The Soul is our Psyche. I'm no physicist, but I'd argue the "5th force of nature" he's talking about is The Observer. The Spirit. The indestructible greater part of us that that houses our bodies and souls. We are physical and non physical simultaneously.

[@alpheendomination]

The fundamental forces are not magical infinity stones

[@JK-up7vz]

There will be a time in a far future where we will look back and say” we wasted so much precious time fighting over futile stuff”

[@loosingsleep4071]

They aren’t fighting they are discussing & to say trying to understand what it means to be human what it means to be in the universe is “futile” is like saying you shouldn’t understand your home country’s language or your own cultures customs if anything it’s the deepest conversation we can all have

[@CurtisGabrielMusic]

@@loosingsleep4071 I don't think they were saying that Brian Cox and Joe Rogan were fighting. They were referring to humanity in relation to this conversation and the miracle of being alive. From that perspective, fighting over land and petty things seems so absurd. I totally agree with them.

[@loosingsleep4071]

@@CurtisGabrielMusic oh, I mean fighting about it is definitely absurd but having the conversation isn’t there’s a difference in my eyes.

[@OwenNovakChildofGod]

Not in the far future, but very, very soon…

[@theboombody]

When inherent meaning doesn't exist, waste doesn't exist either.

[@alloneword154]

Some people can be aware tho. There are various methods to achieve a merging of our individual consciousness with the source of creation that is throbbing within us. That the real you. The essence of being. Some people find it through religion. Some people use meditation. Some people have NDE’s. Some people loose everything then surrender to it. Some people take LSD or DMT. There are ways. But it’s always up to the individual to connect. Most peoples enlightenment come at the hour of their death. God

[@JackPetersonEnergy]

This guy is a fallen angel

[@bakerbrown6]

Yes, he is Satan.

[@lilchaos4792]

Agreed

[@dextermorgan7439]

Haha 😂

[@vinbarnes9260]

@@bakerbrown6 WTH😂

[@vinbarnes9260]

Bunch of cranks

[@cabalgandocontradicciones8303]

Materialism is a self refuting argument

[@matthewarnall8781]

"I can't measure consciousness so it can't be real" what an either incredibly lazy or incredibly arrogant way to dismiss an aspect of human life that is more real than any amount of matter we interact with just because the physical sciences cannot explain it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

[@Ahrbok]

Isnt it more lazy to just assume something exists like you're doing?

[@matthewarnall8781]

@@Ahrbok but I KNOW consciousness exists, in fact it is the only thing I CAN know exists! Everything else could be an illusion, a simulation, or a mixture of reality and unreality. My own consciousness of my being MUST BE REAL. I THINK THEREFORE I AM. And yes, it is ALWAYS lazier to just assume that something doesn't exist. Turn back the clock a few hundred years, and we would have no tools by which we could measure electricity. Well! Since we can't measure it, in that case we might as well just assume it doesn't exist! Pack it up physicists, we're done, nothing to see hear! Investigation is never the lazy route, burying your head in the sand to bolster your own outlook is always lazy, and dare I say, often exactly what atheists accuse the Religious of doing... Also, if you were to tell a medieval university philosopher that there was no physical Soul, he would tell you "of course there isn't otherwise it would just be part of your body."

[@satan96ell75]

Its fucking ridicules 😂😂😂. Its the ego. Everybody knows deep down it is more to us. We just dismiss it so we can live this separete life and experience how that is for a short time. Its a beutifull thing to, but suffering led my ego to crack like an egg and the whole universe awoke inside me.

[@carsonellaruddii5075]

I want to point out two things 1- Brian is a theoretician so I think he maybe didn't want to go into detail, but he said we can't measure it, so it's not there, which is not necessarily true. If you measure it, it is there. If it is not there, it is not measurable. So saying can't measure not there is not entirely correct, although i have no opinion on this tbh, i think he might be right. 2- saying we are made of stars is cool, but saying our ancestors are stars, that sounds cool af, like a myth of some sort.

[@davelew86]

The ideas and the process that causes your mind to solve is not a chemical reaction in your brain. Your soul pilots your body, brain and all, to fly through available knowledge, acquired knowledge and reason. This doesn't happen just because.

[@chalinofalcone871]

""I am a star traveling together with you," the initiate confesses in the Mithraic liturgy." [Psyche and Symbol , Carl Jung, 1958, Part 2, Ch. 6-Two Chapters from: The Interpretation of Nature and the Psyche; Sec. III. Forerunners of the Idea of Synchronicity, p. 253]

[@savethedolphinsEgM]

Having had an out of body experience, I find the logic against a soul amusing. Its like having returned from Paris and meeting a group of scientists who try to convince me that Paris doesn't exist. We have a soul. There are spiritual entities all about us. Relax and enjoy the ride.

[@Willskull]

Cute

[@justaguywithaturban6773]

I feel the same way

[@eyobedw1]

so the scientists need better measuring equipment.

[@eyobedw1]

@@specter0023 I had an out of body experience once, I saw everything

[@IdiotDoomSpiral69]

Why should you or anyone else beliebe that your interpretation of your experience is at all correct? I've had out of body experiences, but nothing about them has in any way led me to believe in a soul or other assorted magical concepts. What makes you think that you are correct in your interpretation/assumption, and that your experience could not be explained as an altered brain state, as with every other person who has had NDE/OOB experiences and were unable to correctly glean any information that would verify their claim?

[@tomarmstrong3297]

He starts by - accurately - stating we don’t know what consciousness is. Any statements he subsequently makes about physicality must necessarily have the same level of uncertainty, as physicality is only known through consciousness.

[@MemekingJag]

not understanding consciousness =/= evidence for a soul. the default position is to not believe until there is evidence to do so; no one is claiming absolutely knowledge that there is no soul, only that we have no reason to believe it exists.

[@tomarmstrong3297]

@@MemekingJag agree re souls, per above, I was addressing the fallacy of Cox’s statements about “what we know” about physicality

[@superpartial]

"Lifeless eyes, black eyes - like a doll's eyes!"

[@jaeljade3609]

This made my night 😂

[@halon7476]

Here's to swimming with bow legged women!

[@salvadorpicasso1503]

Soulless eyes. Sold his soul to the devil.

[@notajull5193]

Dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force. It does not absorb, reflect, or emit light. It also hasnt been directly measured but we say it is there. Why?

[@xqcpog7597]

Based on calculations, it does interact with the universe. We don’t have a tool to observe it but we can see it in the mathematics

[@terrencetysor9956]

I love these theories but for scientists they have to be clear on the basis of science. There is anomalies in everything that can't be explained so ruling things out because you can't explain it is wrong.

[@evanmcleod183]

Terrence Tysor he actually says multiple times that he does not know.

[@Fabian6980]

But it is a fact the we are made up of all the star elements the question is how did we evolve into what we are now from stardust there may not be an answer it just happened

[@tristanp1983]

Okay let's not rule anything out. We're controlled by a race of invisible pink elephants. You can't rule it out.

[@Hhjhfu247]

@@tristanp1983 only idiot would deny afterlife

[@tristanp1983]

@@Hhjhfu247 why?

[@wand873]

The force is like a electric battry

[@schweinhund7966]

There is so much we do not know… what lies beyond the universe that we can detect?

[@subhrajitdalai2339]

What difference between human, animal, a tree, iron and other materials, because everything made of atom and fundamental particle.?

[@johncollins392]

A lot of science is about theory!.

[@paul8972]

But presented as facts in the media

[@VayderMultiVerse]

This man said if you can’t measure it, it’s not there.... 😒..... this is the only thing I hate about scientists and brilliant minds of this caliber, they rule out things they can’t understand once they can’t “measure” them. That frame of thinking is literally contradictive towards the pursuit of understanding the unknown. He literally sounded like all of the intellectuals hundreds of years ago... you know, the ones that made it a “fact” that the universe revolves around earth. Oh how quickly we forget how ignorant human perception truly is just because we’ve observed new material. In the process of those discoveries, we have only scratched the surfaces dealing with the mechanism of reality that we’ve yet to even be ABLE to perceive. But hey, I’m not a scientist or physicist, just an open mind that refuses to be boxed in by flawed theology. Science based on his own definition is a religion in itself as well, but that’s a convo I’m sure nobody wants to have... smh

[@brobroseph8342]

Sorry, but I refuse to live in a reality where a man can identify as a woman but I am not allowed to identify as having a soul. I will always attest to having a soul. If you deny that humans have souls and deny my having a soul, I will assume that you deny yourself having a soul. So I will treat you as a "soulless" being. Have a nice day!

[@thomassoliton1482]

You suggest that “consciousness is an emergent property…” Implied in that suggestion is that “consciousness” is a “thing” (property), and therefore you either have it or you don’t. But the problem with it being a property is that, first of all, you can’t define it; either you know you have it or you don’t. And some (e.g. Mark Solms) suggest that some individuals have it but don’t know it; they have no cerebral cortex but still react in certain ways that suggest they are conscious. In contrast, if conscioiusness is a process, involving a continuous function like running or a machine assembling a car, then it could be present at many levels - like a baby going from its first step to running a race. If consciousness is a process involving various brain functions, you can identify the functions and how they work together to produce consciousness, but you will never be able to quantify or identify consciousness with any precision. Think of consciousness as a storm. How precisely could you compare it to any other storm?

[@georghaberler7250]

If we talk about a soul we have to define it. For me the soul is the number of quantum states a (human) beeing can experience itsself. So a (human) beeing can be resurrected if we have its DNA. If we have a quantum computer we could read in the DNA of this (human) beeing and the quantum computer could back translate it in its quantised states and the computer then could emulate the individual in the sense of the restoration of the original (human) beeing. Watch the film Transendence with Johnny Deep, there it is explained.

[@nathanielwilding3779]

Im one of those who have memories from standing up. I have no past life memories

[@johnlaurie5786]

Brian, we are eternal. when our body dies our soul goes home back to the ether. my house is alive with spirit every day and i'm not talking about the alcoholic one. we are pure energy, energy doesn't die it simply changes form.

[@petraravn5421]

And how do you know this?

[@johnlaurie5786]

@@petraravn5421 It’s common knowledge.

[@christophertellez8536]

The answer is "because it's not there" ♥

[@christophertellez8536]

Joe: The answer is Jesus

[@NorbiOfficial]

Patrick is actually a Star.

[@doc2590]

I have to wonder, could soul and spirit have anything to do with dark energy or dark matter? Just like the ether or spacetime, we know it is there but we don't know much about it. We just don't know anything about the question of having a soul yet. because like he said, it is undetectable. There is no hint that it exists, only people passing down a set of stories or beliefs from the past.

[@Ikgeloofhetniet]

He has a very eery look in his eyes. Gives me the creeps. I don’t know why.

[@keefeeweefee.8714]

Has always given me the creeps also. He has dead eyes and that grin makes my skin crawl.

[@origins7298]

I wish Brian emphasized these points a little more. The basic point is you need and would have to be able to detect some sort of interaction between matter and soul, some signal,

[@lifeofwazi]

I AM STAR!!!

[@Fabian6980]

It all makes sense and in a way it explains racism since stars are white. black people resemble the space white people resemble the stars

[@John777Revelation]

The Meaning of Life: One need not travel to Tibet, climb the highest peak in the Himalayan Mountains, and ask an ancient Monk, “What is the meaning of life?”. God has given the meaning of life written in black and white for all to read. The Meaning of Life, simply put, is … “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” (Ecclesiastes 12:13) 🙏 Lord-Jesus-Christ ✝c✝o✝m

[@hjr228]

Very simply, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

[@nevertrumper3692]

Belief in a god is the end of rational thought...

[@millmoormichael6630]

Indeed.. ”Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.”

[@marcuso5409]

Naive and biased/prejudiced thoughts like yours just now are the end of rational thought, clearly what you said was entirely driven by emotional feelings instead of “rationality” lol eat some mushrooms man, you are hiding from the real world, you’re more than a little ego

[@VayderMultiVerse]

Belief in God always contributed to the development of science tremendously, it was RELIGION that eliminated rational thought. You know there’s a difference right?

[@balpakna7115]

And arrogance despite all of these signs will blind u from knowing truth and will lead u to hellfire

[@calvingrondahl1011]

I am information, I don’t need a soul.

[@djbuttstuff4904]

He basically saying I can't explain the soul

[@williamwallace897]

The soul is completely made up with not a shred of evidence to support it

[@Paranoidpedantic]

@@williamwallace897 yes but it's also how alot of people understand there conciousness, like your inner voice your emotions your thoughts your memories there all like your soup not really but in thought like karma or something, I mean the idea of my conciousness ending is terrifying but it resetting isn't like when your phone's laggy and you reset it

[@djbuttstuff4904]

Übermensch duh u dumass how tf you think we believe 😂🤫🤐

[@OriginalPuro]

He explained how there is no soul. If there was a soul then there would be some form of energy leaving your body as you die, there isn't. There is no such thing as a "soul", it's just made up bullshit like santa claus, easter bunny, gender change, religion or flat earth theories.

[@abrahamicbaphomet6478]

He should have said i don't know instead of ruling it out . Scientist world generally rubbishes conspiracy/spirituality by saying there is lack of evidence but in private they do research on the same conspiracies hidden from the public .

[@williamwallace897]

The soul is completely made up with not a shred of evidence to support it. It is time to let go of these ancient beliefs

[@marcuso5409]

You are naive lol and intellectually underdeveloped. The soul is what guides through time lol. You know nothing about spirit that’s why there’s only dead ideas in your words, the soul cannot be disproven. When magnets were discovered to be “influenced by magical and invisible forces and fields” they thought magnets had souls lol, because that’s what the soul is, you can see it or measure it lmao but it is shaping you through your life. The seed is influence by the mature oak it is destined to become. Look up Waddington’s developmental field idea, it will help you understand why you need to revise your worldview. Atheist scientists who are afraid of psychedelics and confronting real questions in life are the biggest bunch of cowards pretending to be dealing with the cold hard facts ever lol

[@thomash226]

marcus o You still didn’t supply a shred of evidence

[@marcuso5409]

@@thomash226 There isn’t a shred is scientific “evidence“ proving YOU even exist... the only proof I have is my personal experience since you seem to be here talking to me. Did you know the the scientific method is actually entirely dependent on experience? Who do you think is doing the measuring?

[@marcuso5409]

@@thomash226 There actually isn’t even a “shred of evidence” proving YOU exist, this is why this whole topic is laughable. Do you really believe that a simple “monkey on a rock” can understand the universe? The only proof I have that you exist is my experience, since you seem to be here talking to me. Did you know that the scientific method is actually entirely based on experience? What do you think “empirical data” is? Who do you think is doing all the measuring?

[@VayderMultiVerse]

Bruh we just now in recent years found out about the God particle existing between the subatomic molecules, there wasn’t a shred of evidence that it existed until we were developed enough via technology to perceive just the footprints of its existence. It’s time to let go of ancient tradition and religious tunnel vision, I do agree with that, but just because you can’t measure the contents of the “soul” yet doesn’t rule it out as nonexistent. That’s literally contradictory in SCIENTIFIC terms smh

[@PhilRounds]

Joe is like a deer in the headlights here. He doesn't understand any of this. He just keeps saying "right, right"...but he's clueless. The compulsion to believe in god is caused by the fear of death. Humans are acutely aware that they're going to die, and belief in a god puts a Band-Aid on that awareness until the lights actually go out. Brian has the patience of a saint :P

[@treva31]

If we had already discovered all the forces in particle physics we would have a theory of everything, but we don't, far from it.

[@dextermorgan7439]

So ghosts must be real 🙄

[@OwenNovakChildofGod]

I’ve already solved it

[@alpheendomination]

That isn't what a theory of everything is

[@johncollins392]

People will believe in aliens but not the soul,there is a lot we don't know inc Brian Cox.

[@jimmolloy1654]

We still dont understand consciousness or impulses to movement form from conscious decisions and how that works

[@aprilwebster3966]

I'm sure I have a theory! Matter of fact!

[@jimrogers5774]

As he said in all his interviews and talks science dose not have all the answers! We are still learning. And the energy of conchesness, and the soul is not known! That does not mean it dose not exist! You can not mesure what you can see, hear , or feel

[@VNavale]

Joe Rogan looks out of depth and lost and desperately wants to avoid saying something stupid.

[@subhrajitdalai2339]

What if soul isn't a matter particle???

[@IdiotDoomSpiral69]

@Tercio Novohispano How would any theologian have any verifiable evidence or information on such a thing? Saying that you believe something but that it does not detectably interact with the material universe in any fashion is a cop out and equivalent to saying that it exists in your imagination.

[@simonthorogood5263]

We comprise body and soul.... Brian can't understand this. I don't blame him for that, he's part of an establishment that applies such knowledge filters all the time.... After all, no-one in the creation science field gets funding for their research. If he were to check with some of his colleagues in medicine, where there are now more and more detailed accounts of peoples experiences of having died and then being resuscitated, we might at least get more insight to this hugely important topic.

[@leoborganelli3558]

Horseshit

[@stephenmystery8313]

The brain can be active for several minutes after oxygen is cut off. In these final moments, chemicals flood your brain and create the same effect hallucinogenic drugs do for users of those. If someone is dead and tripping balls, then gets revived before it's too late, it doesn't mean they went somewhere. I don't think you're likely to be Islamic, but many Muslims have been revived and have given accounts that revolve around their religion. Do you believe that Islam is factual as a result of this?

[@petemitchell9996]

Have you ever dreamed of something and thought it looked so real? Well that's what happened to people in a coma who had "out of body experience". Sleep paralysis is one of examples of that. Everything's in our mind. There is nothing more to it.

[@ben.reddington]

The human paradox of being so smart and so dumb at the same time.

[@darthvader6588]

wdym dumb? this was an interesting take!

[@JSp8]

The concept of a soul is so fkn absurd.

[@ben.reddington]

@JSp8 absolutely, but on the other hand, Satan is very... plausible. Yup.

[@JSp8]

@@ben.reddington Plausible? Lol are you trolling?

[@johnrichardson7629]

Physicists love to equivocate on the term 'information'.

[@drodevil102]

Love this guy, so smart. Just avoid his politics after all he is a professor so you already know his opinion...

[@themagicbeans2253]

This is a really good comment. Hope you make more.

[@drodevil102]

@@themagicbeans2253 why thank you, and to be sure, i will love ;)

[@tell-mea-story611]

Many of his students don't rate his lectures, and he doesnt answer questions. It's all speculation and stupid smiles. With some computer imaging and constant BBC funding, anyone can appear smart.

[@drodevil102]

@@tell-mea-story611 he is one smart mo fo....dont let his toxic blind politics dissuade you x

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

@@sandwichbreath0 politics are based on emotions more then reason these days.

[@Sarnt_Eskie]

"You're not going to fool anybody here mr. Top Gun!!!! " 🤣

[@Jessrossfit10]

Everyone is so desperate for a meaning because there seems to be no meaning in their life, if you look around do you ever think of an ants consciousness is bigger than yours? Do you ever feel like larvae is having trouble with Einsteins equations? Brian is right humanity has this small window where we understand where everything comes from. There is no higher meaning, just live.

[@davelew86]

Satan is never going to come to you as an abhorrent monster. He is going to speak to you as a loving, meek, mild being that only wants to discredit your creator. Mankind is so gullable

[@dragonballz4998]

I wish I had never seen those ghosts or had experiences with orbs and writings on mirrors that just appear. I once went on a LSD trip for like 10hrs and I figured out the puzzle in the meaning of life but when I came back down I forgot it. I do think everything in this world is connected and happens so other things can happen. But hey if you can't measure it then it's not real right?

[@OwenNovakChildofGod]

Sounds like the existence of God to me. The moment the supernatural blatantly exists is when the discipline of science completely and utterly falls apart.

[@Ahrbok]

​@@OwenNovakChildofGod Considering that over the entire existance of humanity we have no evidence of the supernatural, you better get comfortable with the discipline of sciences

[@hjr228]

​@@Ahrbok what would you qualify as the 'supernatural'?

[@Ahrbok]

@@hjr228 The same definition everyone else uses. Just google "supernatural", the definition is not very contested.

[@elianioriofarrell]

The key word here is lsd

[@jxstified7558]

Im such a fuckin geek I love videos like these!

[@C3H8]

I fucking love science

[@izzygarcialionibabaloipici6293]

No you're both atheist that don't like to do your own thinking, aka big dum

[@NonFungibleApe]

I have one rational argument. How is that we live and die. If you think our body is like a device and the food we consume generates energy to run this device. Then once the body is dead, why in the history of mankind ever we were never able restart this device like any other man made devices. From your logic if the soul is ruled out, then why the body can't regain life, make it walk normally and live with the same memory like rebooting a computer.

[@O-666]

There are biological reasons for this. Your cells are dead, they are themselves living and need oxygen to survive. You die because your body can no longer perform all the necessary functions to keep your cells alive and working. Maybe your heart stops pumping, maybe you die of brain cancer, or a degenerative disease. No one dies of just "old age", something in your body eventually gives out and causes you to eventually die from it. Hypothetically, like a computer, if you could replace every conceivable part of your body like a computer you could escape death for a while. But UNLIKE a computer, the act of shutting down completely renders our organs irreversibly damaged. A computer can turn on and off. We just can't as we are organic. It would take a massive leap in technology to make us immortal or be able to "restart" a dead human. We would somehow have to be able to regenerate every cell that exists in our body and understand exactly how every individual neuron is connected and functions. The brain is simply too complex for us to fully understand it to the point that we could regenerate it from biological death.

[@NonFungibleApe]

@Kalopsiate 69 @Mc Carthy I understand your point. As you said, first the heart stops, then the cells die, then because of biology, it's irrecoverable process, it's domino effect. I wonder why people like Jeff Bezos, who earn millions daily, why don't they innovate an automated CPR device implant for their personal use, which starts as soon as their heart stops functioning. That way they can avoid heart related deaths, which is primary reason for most deaths, even including old age death. If these scientific research of becoming immortal (or extending life) has any credibility, then I'm sure they would go all in with their money. But they never did. Steve Jobs was innovator and died without approaching this route. Today Elon Musk seems ambitious with everything futuristic but immortality is not in his radar. I think it's just science fiction. My understanding of life: I beleive in religion and soul. Beleive that we are travelers to this world. We were given this body to use for the actual purpose (To Worship Allah). Not saying that we only have to worship, but that's the actual purpose of life. Everything else is secondary. If you think of life, some people are poor, some are sick, some are rich, some are healthy, we live, build relationships, then die, what's the point? We're all put in different scenarios, but that doesn't matter to the meaning of life, what matters is, what we do with it, it's simple, it's a test for everyone. Allah wants to test, if the rich is willing to help poor, if the poor is patient to deal with the struggle, if healthy people know the gift of health, the sick is patient enough to deal with the pain. The point (Test) is, we just have to realise that life is not permanent, what we have is temporary, money, sickness, poverty, health, etc. Let's say we lived forever, will we be happy with that. I think we will get bored of this repeating life activities at some point. I don't have the same excitement of life that I had when I was young. So if we know we're here for test, than we don't have to worry. Because once this life is over, then we go to a different reality, which is better version of this life. There won't be boredom, it will be unlimited life, no sickness, no need for money or resource, etc. It's a different reality we can't think of with our brain. Because our brain needs inspiration from that reality to think creatively. If there is nothing to inspire, then we can't imagine that reality, the life after death. Nobody has ever lived forever here, everyone died in history. That's the only truth that needs no proof to prove to anyone. People are so curious to know when is Doomsday. But everyone's Doomsday is when they die. But we are so ignorant, aren't we? If you find value in what I wrote, you'll find more information to whatever questions you have with the scholars of Islam. Because they refer to Quran (Words of Allah, unedited) and hadiths as source of their information.

[@NonFungibleApe]

@Mc Carthy I would suggest you to read the Quran directly if possible. It's in classical Arabic, not same as modern Arabic. If reading Arabic is not easy, then approach Islamic Imam's at the nearest mosque. They're friendly and happy to help with any queries you have. Islam has answers to everything about life, how to take care of your family, help community, manage your business, politics, how you eat, you name it.. Last thing, you don't want to ask a chicken if you should eat Chicken burger or Ham burger, because the answer will be Ham burger unless the chicken is planning to do suicide.

[@maydaymemer4660]

@@O-666with organex we might be close to reviving the cells of dead brains

[@yugnok]

Funny how none of these guys who believe in a soul can't explain consciousness and then call it "just an emergent property." Having a gigantic ego goes along with being smart.

[@matthewhardy8369]

Will people saying a soul is God created and made by God is not an answer either

[@JEEDUHCHRI]

I think that even if a soul doesn’t exist we could eventually invent one.

[@RajinderYadav]

if consciousness is eternal, we could eventually invent it is not.

[@chattywalrus8485]

Just got out of bed; my soul packs quite a punch! Seriously, how did I just do that?! Surely my muscles and tendons didn't manage that with the mere 12 volts my body generates or the 3000 calories I ingested yesterday! I was going to joke about the car spark that miraculously turns the wheels, but, in terms of energy, you kind of get what you put in with a car, don't you? Oh, wait, I know: all that gets into black holes emerges into living beings' chakras! Come on, Brian, as a Physicist, you're supposed to show how things work, not guess on how they don't! Immortality?! My body's decaying every year, I'm pretty sure I'll need another vessel within decades!

[@RajinderYadav]

he don't know what consciousness is but concludes it is based on physics, genius! I mean science!!

[@chattywalrus8485]

@@RajinderYadav Yeah, if my soul alone can manage all of this, what do I even need a body for?! I'll just go supercharge myself from a few quasars, back in time, of course, then get back here and throw a party Q-style. Unless that offends anyone and then I get sent on the Enterprise, for Picard to lecture me.

[@chattywalrus8485]

@@RajinderYadav And, yap, calling that a theory and stating that publicly, as if he entensively researched it with scientific means, brings a bit of a disgrace to science and can confuse some people on terminology and on what it means to do scientific research.

[@Jivje0is0pr0]

Funny that he says that ‘we know how matter interacts’. But yet we cannot explain 85% of the “dark matter” in the universe.

[@craigpegasus]

But the point is that we know dark matter exists bc its effects can be measured.

[@jeffreyburley4033]

Bet yet you believe in dark energy and dark matter even though you cannot see it. You claim you see the results of it. But, you dismiss the existence of a soul or spirit even though you see what a soul can do and how strong the holy spirit can be in someone. So, what makes you think the soul and/or the spirit is just another physical component. But, like dark matter and dark energy, you can only see the effects but cannot see those those components and not the spirit?

[@phild249]

People presume because Brian is an accomplished scientist he knows what he is talking about, which he does in many respects, but most of his comments here are just speculative opinions when he says he's damned sure, he's really just trying to convince himself of his own unproven conclusions.

[@augustmoon0004]

I think it’s you who’s trying to convince yourself he’s not correct because you’re scared of dying!

[@maydaymemer4660]

@@augustmoon0004David Chalmers doesnt believe in an afterlife and he invented the hard problem. You dont have to be religious to think that scientists are having trouble defining consciousness for a reason